Ira, Yes, I probably confused you with my un-precise example, however I feel that Jens has clearified it quite well. Seen from an european's point of view I think it would be best to leave it as is, even though this is not correct english (as you have pointed out). I must admit that it does not mean that much to me whether you leave it as is or change it back as long as we avoid confusion. Reidar -----Original Message----- From: Jens Erik (Mik) Brammer <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 3:26 PM Subject: RE: [CFTW] emigrate/immigrate >I believe the discussion is complicated of un-precise examples. Let me >clarify using Reidars example below: >Seen from Norway: "John emigrated from Norway and he emigrated to USA". >Reider would want his story to read "John emigrated to USA" >Seen from USA: "John immigrated from Norway and he immigrated into USA". If >John was Ira's grandfather, Ira would want to write "John immigrated from >Norway" > >The confusion may have arisen because the Americans, Australians etc. on >this list mostly handles immigrants (people entering their country), wheras >we in Europe and places like that mostly have family members who emigrated >from (left) our countries. > >Did this help? > >Jens E. Brammer >Øverød, Danmark > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] >> Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 2:36 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: RE: [CFTW] emigrate/immigrate >> >> >> Ira, >> >> Hoping not to complicate this further I think Alfred has got a point and >> that this is the way most people would understand. >> However, I do think the correct way of using these terms should be: >> >> "A person emigrates from a country and immigrates to a country". >> Example: "John emigrated from Norway and immigrated to the USA". >> Thus, to be correct you should use borth events (emigration and >> immigration) >> when you want to inform someone that a person has left a country to enter >> another country. >> >> To avoid implementing both events (in telling that a person leave >> or enter a >> country)I think you should stick with the current version. >> >> Regards >> >> Reidar >> >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: Alfred Kraft van Ermel [mailto:[email protected]] >> > Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 1:06 PM >> > To: [email protected] >> > Subject: Re: [CFTW] emigrate/immigrate >> > >> > >> > Ira, >> > >> > I think that your current version is ok. >> > >> > Emigrating is used when a person is leaving his original country of >> > residence to (permanently) live in another country. So it should read >> > 'emigrated to' >> > >> > Immigrating is used when a person is entering his new country >> > of permanent >> > residence (after emigrating from his fatherland). So it should read >> > 'immigrated from'. >> > >> > kind regards, >> > >> > Alfred >> > >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "Ira J Lund" <[email protected]> >> > To: <[email protected]> >> > Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2001 18:29 >> > Subject: [CFTW] emigrate/immigrate >> > >> > >> > > I do recall some time ago (a year or more) someone told me >> > that the way I >> > > had emigrate and immigrate events was totally backwards. I thought I >> > > checked and thought they were so I fixed it - I thought. >> > Now I am being >> > > told that they are backwards again. So I double checked on a Web >> > dictionary >> > > and found: >> > > >> > > emigrate means to exit a country >> > > immigrate means to enter a country >> > > >> > > Thus my events should really say: >> > > >> > > %N emigrated from %P >> > > %N immigrated to %P >> > > >> > > and I think they are the other way around. I wonder how >> > many people I have >> > > messed up with this. I think in Ver 3.07 I better set it >> > straight (again). >> > > >> > > Ira >> > > ------------------------------------------------ >> > > Mr. Ira J. Lund >> > > E-mail: [email protected] Web: >> > http://www.cf-software.com >> > > >> > > Cumberland Family Software, >> > 385 Idaho Springs Road, Clarksville TN 37043 >> > > >> > > >> > > ==== CFT-WIN Mailing List ==== >> > > You can contact the List Manager at: >> > > [email protected] >> > > >> > > ============================== >> > > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access >> > to the #1 >> > > Source for Family History Online. 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