Just to add to this, I want to use Cumberland because it has a birthday list that I like and can use for web sites for relatives. I have searched for programs to do this and Family tree maker, Legacy, PAF, and others do not. If someone knows of a program that does a birthday list like this I would appreciate knowing. I want the Name, birth date, and age to show starting in January throught December. So many of them either sort alpha by name, in calendar view that does not work good on web sites, drops off first name and uses initials instead, can only print them not save in a file, and so on. Cumberland puts out a list that shows what I want and the order I want. Thanks, Jerry Longstrom