At 2/27/04 01:11 PM Friday, Phil O'Phax wrote: *********START OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT********* >Hi George, >(snip) >If I date my (hand written) notes about members of my family I can see >whether I have updated my GEDCOM file "properly" > >Kind regards, > >Phil. >(snip) **********END OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT*********** I still say the CHAN tag is virtually worthless. In those extreme cases where one MUST (in his/her opinion) include a time and date of editing, and you are talking about Notes, the time and date can be entered right in the Notes. It's not that there's so much of a problem with CHAN in CFTW, it's those other danged genealogy programs that put the tag in EVERY Event, Misc, etc., entry! I have imported GEDCOM's with 10,000+ names and EVERY event included the CHAN tag, with 99.99% of them BLANK!!!!! SgtGeorge -- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 7.0.224 / Virus Database: 261.9.11 - Release Date: 2/28/04

Hi Ira, Having a problem with the Link you gave below. I downloaded the file and when I clicked on it, I received the following message: ****************************** cftw.exe--Unable to locate component This application has failed to start because c55ascx.dll was not found. Re-installing the application may fix this problem. ******************************* Am I the only person to experience this? How do I get this to work properly? Thanks for your help. Vic ___________________________________________________________________________ >From: "Ira J Lund" <ira.lund@cf-software.com> >Reply-To: CFT-WIN-L@rootsweb.com >To: CFT-WIN-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [CFTW] Problem with "Rebuild Indexes" >Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 13:04:56 -0600 >I have found the cause of this problem - which is related to another report >from Bill LaBarge. AND I even wonder if this might be related to the >slowdown reported by Erik Helmer Nielsen. But the strange thing is that I >think this bug has always been there. It was related to what could be >called >old legacy code which is not exactly appropriate for the newer upgrades >made >to Clarion programming language. > >I have Zipped CFT.EXE and posted it on my web site but you can really only >start the download by clicking on the link below or pasting to the URL and >then ovewrite the old CFT.EXE in the Cumberland Family Tree folder. > >www.cf-software.com/CFT314c.zip > >I especially would like to hear whether the changes I made help Erik out >with his problem. The details reported below by Les allowed me to pinpoint >that problem rather quickly. > >Thanks, Ira >------------------------------------------------ >Mr. Ira J. Lund Cumberland Family Software >E-mail: ira.lund@cf-software.com Web: http://www.cf-software.com > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Les Bedford" <LB27@uk2.net> >To: <CFT-WIN-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2004 10:57 AM >Subject: [CFTW] Problem with "Rebuild Indexes" > > > > Ira > > > > I've been having problems when importing GEDCOM's - every time I do > > this, I seem to loose one marriage event. I think I've now tracked down > > what's happening, & it's the Rebuild Indexes which is causing the > > problem, and not the actual import itself. > > > > The problem can be reproduced as follows: > > > > 1) Start with a brand-new, empty, database. > > > > 2) Add three individuals & two marriages so that the "Story" reads: > > > > 1. A A > > > > A and B B were married at Boston. > > A and C C were married at New York. > > > > 3) Rebuild the indexes (uncheck all the boxes). The story now reads: > > > > 1. A A > > > > A and B B were married at Boston. > > A and C C were married. > > > > 4) Rebuild the indexes a second time (uncheck all the boxes). The > > story now reads: > > > > 1. A A > > > > A and B B were married. > > A and C C were married. > > > > 5) Looking at the three individuals confirms that both marriages have > > disappeared. > > > > I'm using Windows 98SE & CFT-WIN Version 3.14. > > >==== CFT-WIN Mailing List ==== >To unsubscribe from CFT-WIN, send an e-mail message to: > CFT-WIN-L-request@rootsweb.com (for individual messages) > CFT-WIN-D-request@rootsweb.com (for Digest mode) >Subject: unsubscribe >In the body include only one word: unsubscribe >(Turn OFF your signature file when sending this command) > >============================== >Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration >Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > _________________________________________________________________ Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee when you click here. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963

Related to Language issues. This is not a problem for me, but I use English. Try going to Option Menu - Program Configuration - Language tab and select all checks boxes on right. Press EDIT button at top, then close. This rebuilds the language file. Since you cannot delete English I am not sure why you are getting this. I have set the program to put the English word in if word is not found. The error you get suggest the English word is not present. The phrase for 350932 is 'Start at Last Search' and it is in the language file. perhaps you have an old version of the language files? Update your language files and I am sure this will help. Ira ------------------------------------------------ Mr. Ira J. Lund Cumberland Family Software E-mail: ira.lund@cf-software.com Web: http://www.cf-software.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sigurd Eliassen" <sigurde@spjelkavik.vgs.no> To: <CFT-WIN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 10:08 AM Subject: Re: [CFTW] Problem with "Rebuild Indexes" > Thu, 26 Feb 2004 13:04:56 -0600, Ira J Lund : > > >www.cf-software.com/CFT314c.zip > > A new error is intoduced: > > Entering the Place Name Editor and the Mics Data Editor, the following > window pops up: > Stop > Word not found in language file/Word code:350932 > > Sigurd Eliassen > Norway

Hi George, Let me put in my tuppence worth here. The CHAN tag (date and time when the record was changed) IMHO has the following uses: 1) I can see straight away when a record was changed and which records were changed on the same day. 2) I can see in which order the records were changed. 3) It may even prompt me as to *why* I changed a record if I do not have a NOTE tag for that record 4) Those family history programs that automate the process of creating a CHAN tag IMHO are *better* than those that require a (manual edit) update. If I date my (hand written) notes about members of my family I can see whether I have updated my GEDCOM file "properly" Kind regards, Phil. At 06:59 27/02/2004, George W. Durman wrote: >re >than probably any other tag. I receive GEDCOMS where there is >a CHAN tag for EVERY INDIVIDUAL in them. May I ask why >anyone wants that worthless, to me, info for EVERY person in >the database? Member of Kent FHS, NW Kent FHS, DEVFHS,SoG,GOONS,Chairman of the Warnies Ancestral Group (WAG) I use and recommend CD's from ACDB for my One Name Study research http://www.archivecdbooks.org/

G'day Ira, I have just done a GEDCOM 4 export and then opened it in PAF for trial purposes. There are a number of "errors" all but a few of which relate to this "TIME" tag. I do not know what this does in CFT but by experiment I see that it comes from my having the "Include Date/Time change tags (CHAN)" in Option 2 of the Gedcom Export dialog checked. Unchecking solves the problem. BUT - when I tried to find out more in the Gedcom Export part of the Help file (Manual) it is not described. Perhaps a note is needed as to why it would be used. I guess it is one of those "Ira things" ;-) GEDCOM Import Log - 27 Feb 2004 File: F:\My Documents\MY FILES\CFTREE\RubyGracieAnces.GED (27 FEB 2004) Created by: CFTREE Cumberland Family Tree CFTREE Windows Ver PRO 3.13 Submitted by: Unknown Individuals: 19 Marriages: 12 Sources: 46 Repositories: 10 Errors: 120 The following lines in the GEDCOM file could not be processed due to unrecognizable tags or invalid data: ERROR 1: RubyGracieAnces.GED, line 30: RIN 1: Unexpected tag 'TIME' in Change Date Structure. 2 TIME 21:15:11 Mike CALDER http://members.optusnet.com.au/mikecalder/

Thu, 26 Feb 2004 13:04:56 -0600, Ira J Lund : > >www.cf-software.com/CFT314c.zip > A new error is intoduced: Entering the Place Name Editor and the Mics Data Editor, the following window pops up: Stop Word not found in language file/Word code:350932 Sigurd Eliassen Norway

good to hear this (eof if more than legacy stuff). I suggest you read softvelocity newsgroups regulary, because with clarion 6 you will probably need to recheck the code again. There are lots of advices about speed connected with service packs, disk caching, using threads and using yield on the softvelocity.public.clarion6. There are lots of speed issues covered there vido ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ira J Lund" <ira.lund@cf-software.com> To: <CFT-WIN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 2:39 PM Subject: Re: [CFTW] CFT Ver 3.14 and Windows XP > I am glad to hear that. > > There are two things I did - and I think I may have been the real cause in > the slowdown. > > 1. I mentioned before some "legacy" code. When reading records the code > "loops" through each record to process them. There is an old Clarion > statement called EOF that checkes when to exit the loop at "end of file". > They had lef tthat in as "legacy" and wanted us rather to check for > "errorcode()" and exit. Hitting end of file triggered the errorcode which I > captured and exited the loop. So I got rid of all the EOFs and replaced them > with the newer errorcode checks. This was the actual cause of the bugs > mentioned that would erroneously delete an event in Rebuild. i think the old > EOF allowed the loop to loop one extra time more than it should have. > > 2. I think this tweak was more of the cause of slowdowns that you saw. But I > do not understand why some saw it and some didn't. Before compiling the > program I checked the compile properties (which I didn't realize I had ever > changed) and there is a check box for "Build Release System". This was > unchecked, so I checked and recompiled. I think this also affected the file > size as without the check I suspect the EXE contained a lot of internal > debugging code. Thus checking the "Build Release System" optimizes the code > without all the extra overhead dealing with debugging mode stuff. > > To tell you the truth, once you started saying what you did, I began to > realize that recently I had noticed some small slowdowns in certain areas of > my CFT also on my XP, although not as significant as you were reporting. So > your report got me curious that the stuff I was seeing might be related to > what you were seeing. Anyway, glad it has all worked out. > > I am going to update the program download today with the new CFTW.EXE > without making a version change. > > Ira > > > I hurried in trying the revised CFT.EXE. > > > > It worked !!! > > My database of 15000 persons is now exported to Gedcom in less > > than 4 minutes. !!! > > I am so releived, that this annoying problem is solved. > > > > I am just a bit curious. > > Can Ira tell a bit more about the cause of this strange problem ? > > How can it be that I seem to be the only victim? > > Why is the size of new CFT.EXE so much smaller than the old one > > (2885K against 4012k) ? > > > ==== CFT-WIN Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from CFT-WIN, send an e-mail message to: > CFT-WIN-L-request@rootsweb.com (for individual messages) > CFT-WIN-D-request@rootsweb.com (for Digest mode) > Subject: unsubscribe > In the body include only one word: unsubscribe > (Turn OFF your signature file when sending this command) > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

Thu, 26 Feb 2004 13:04:56 -0600, Ira wrote >I have found the cause of this problem - which is related to another report >from Bill LaBarge. AND I even wonder if this might be related to the >slowdown reported by Erik Helmer Nielsen. ..... >I have Zipped CFT.EXE and posted it on my web site .... I hurried in trying the revised CFT.EXE. It worked !!! My database of 15000 persons is now exported to Gedcom in less than 4 minutes. !!! I am so releived, that this annoying problem is solved. I am just a bit curious. Can Ira tell a bit more about the cause of this strange problem ? How can it be that I seem to be the only victim? Why is the size of new CFT.EXE so much smaller than the old one (2885K against 4012k) ? Erik

It is one of those grand ideas I had when I created Ver 3 that I almost wished I had not created. There are a few ideas like that - things that I almost consider one day removing from a new Ver 4. But in any case it does sound like a bug, as it should have recognized it and not thrown it into a note field. As George notes, those who use it are so few and it really seems to get in the way more often than not. Ira ------------------------------------------------ Mr. Ira J. Lund Cumberland Family Software E-mail: ira.lund@cf-software.com Web: http://www.cf-software.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Calder" <mikecalder@optusnet.com.au> To: < > Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 12:38 AM Subject: [CFTW] TIME tag > G'day Ira, > > I have just done a GEDCOM 4 export and then opened it in PAF for trial > purposes. There are a number of "errors" all but a few of which relate > to this "TIME" tag. I do not know what this does in CFT but by > experiment I see that it comes from my having the "Include Date/Time > change tags (CHAN)" in Option 2 of the Gedcom Export dialog checked. > Unchecking solves the problem. > > BUT - when I tried to find out more in the Gedcom Export part of the > Help file (Manual) it is not described. Perhaps a note is needed as to > why it would be used. I guess it is one of those "Ira things" ;-) > > > GEDCOM Import Log - 27 Feb 2004 > File: F:\My Documents\MY FILES\CFTREE\RubyGracieAnces.GED (27 FEB > 2004) > Created by: CFTREE Cumberland Family Tree CFTREE Windows Ver PRO > 3.13 > Submitted by: Unknown > Individuals: 19 > Marriages: 12 > Sources: 46 > Repositories: 10 > Errors: 120 > > The following lines in the GEDCOM file could not be processed due to > unrecognizable tags or invalid data: > > ERROR 1: RubyGracieAnces.GED, line 30: RIN 1: Unexpected tag 'TIME' in > Change Date Structure. > > 2 TIME 21:15:11

I am glad to hear that. There are two things I did - and I think I may have been the real cause in the slowdown. 1. I mentioned before some "legacy" code. When reading records the code "loops" through each record to process them. There is an old Clarion statement called EOF that checkes when to exit the loop at "end of file". They had lef tthat in as "legacy" and wanted us rather to check for "errorcode()" and exit. Hitting end of file triggered the errorcode which I captured and exited the loop. So I got rid of all the EOFs and replaced them with the newer errorcode checks. This was the actual cause of the bugs mentioned that would erroneously delete an event in Rebuild. i think the old EOF allowed the loop to loop one extra time more than it should have. 2. I think this tweak was more of the cause of slowdowns that you saw. But I do not understand why some saw it and some didn't. Before compiling the program I checked the compile properties (which I didn't realize I had ever changed) and there is a check box for "Build Release System". This was unchecked, so I checked and recompiled. I think this also affected the file size as without the check I suspect the EXE contained a lot of internal debugging code. Thus checking the "Build Release System" optimizes the code without all the extra overhead dealing with debugging mode stuff. To tell you the truth, once you started saying what you did, I began to realize that recently I had noticed some small slowdowns in certain areas of my CFT also on my XP, although not as significant as you were reporting. So your report got me curious that the stuff I was seeing might be related to what you were seeing. Anyway, glad it has all worked out. I am going to update the program download today with the new CFTW.EXE without making a version change. Ira > I hurried in trying the revised CFT.EXE. > > It worked !!! > My database of 15000 persons is now exported to Gedcom in less > than 4 minutes. !!! > I am so releived, that this annoying problem is solved. > > I am just a bit curious. > Can Ira tell a bit more about the cause of this strange problem ? > How can it be that I seem to be the only victim? > Why is the size of new CFT.EXE so much smaller than the old one > (2885K against 4012k) ?

Ira may have solved more than just a couple of problems with the new cft.exe overwrite. I have always been bothered by a delay of a second or two between the time I type a name in the SEARCH slot and the time the letters actually appear on the screen, i.e., letters often appear just a second or two AFTER I type them. This no longer seems to be a problem. Praise the Ira! In fact, the whole program seems to run with a great deal more enthusiasm. (Of course all this may simply be my reward for being such a good boy the last few days. Who knows?) Anyhow: thanks, Ira. I needed that. walt hogdu26@knology.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Erik Helmer Nielsen" <ehelmer@boerne.dk> To: <CFT-WIN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 6:46 AM Subject: Re: [CFTW] CFT Ver 3.14 and Windows XP > Thu, 26 Feb 2004 13:04:56 -0600, Ira wrote > > >I have found the cause of this problem - which is related to another report > >from Bill LaBarge. AND I even wonder if this might be related to the > >slowdown reported by Erik Helmer Nielsen. ..... > > >I have Zipped CFT.EXE and posted it on my web site .... > > I hurried in trying the revised CFT.EXE. > > It worked !!! > My database of 15000 persons is now exported to Gedcom in less > than 4 minutes. !!! > I am so releived, that this annoying problem is solved. > > I am just a bit curious. > Can Ira tell a bit more about the cause of this strange problem ? > How can it be that I seem to be the only victim? > Why is the size of new CFT.EXE so much smaller than the old one > (2885K against 4012k) ? > > Erik > > > ==== CFT-WIN Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from CFT-WIN, send an e-mail message to: > CFT-WIN-L-request@rootsweb.com (for individual messages) > CFT-WIN-D-request@rootsweb.com (for Digest mode) > Subject: unsubscribe > In the body include only one word: unsubscribe > (Turn OFF your signature file when sending this command) > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

Hi Erik I use CTFW 3.13, WinXP Pro, P4-2.4MHz 512MB and my database of 900 people exports in 4 seconds flat, and the "cftw.exe" process remains at 99% with a "Running" status throughout. 'activesystemproces' doesn't sound like a process that should be on your system. I could not find any reference to this name with an internet search, but it is possible that you mat have some adware/spyware on your PCs. Even if CFTW for some reason wasn't fully utilizing the full processor resources, then the "System Idle Process" should be taking up the balance. Here are some suggestions: 1) Has service pack SP1 been installed onto your PCs? I would recommend that SP1 be applied to all XP systems, as this did include many compatibility fixes. Go "Start|Control Panel|System" and the "General" page will tell you if "Service Pack 1" is installed. 2) Are the folders/files where CFTW is installed or where you data resides marked "read only"? Perhaps you copied some data back from a CD which would keep the "read only" status of the folders/files. This can sometimes cause a problem, especially if the application creates intermediate files when doing something. 3) Do you have a adware/spyware detecting/removal program? You can download a free version of "Ad-Aware" from http://www.lavasoft.nu/. The latest version is 6.0 build 6.181. Install it, and immediately use the "Check for updates now" function, which will download the latest definition file. Then press "start" and then "next" to check your system. The free version doesn't remain resident, so you need to manually run it quite frequently to keep your system clean. 4) Some viruses attempt to disable your antivirus program, so it is possible that you may have a virus that is hiding itself. You can download a free manual checker from http://www.vintage-solutions.com/English/Antivirus/Super/index.html. This just scans for viruses, and what is really nice about it, is that can look at messages inside email files (*.pst, *.mbx, *.dbx files) (by checking the "email check" option), which most other antivirus program do not do. It also simply unpacks itself to your temporary folder when you run the program, and when it is finished it completely removes all traces of itself - nothing is actually installed on your computer. Sometimes it is nice to get a second opinion on the virus state of your machine, and because it is never installed on you PC, viruses cannot interfere with it. It is normally updated once a week on a Friday. John Smith Pretoria, South Africa

Hello Mike, As regards the CHAN tag, that is one that aggravates me more than probably any other tag. I receive GEDCOMS where there is a CHAN tag for EVERY INDIVIDUAL in them. May I ask why anyone wants that worthless, to me, info for EVERY person in the database? Maybe I'm missing something, but who really cares when the file was "changed"? That information will be useful to probably no more than .0001% of users. Clue me in if I'm missing something here. SgtGeorge At 2/27/04 01:38 AM Friday, Mike Calder wrote: *********START OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT********* >G'day Ira, > >I have just done a GEDCOM 4 export and then opened it in PAF for trial >purposes. There are a number of "errors" all but a few of which relate >to this "TIME" tag. I do not know what this does in CFT but by >experiment I see that it comes from my having the "Include Date/Time >change tags (CHAN)" in Option 2 of the Gedcom Export dialog checked. >Unchecking solves the problem. > >BUT - when I tried to find out more in the Gedcom Export part of the >Help file (Manual) it is not described. Perhaps a note is needed as to >why it would be used. I guess it is one of those "Ira things" ;-) > > >GEDCOM Import Log - 27 Feb 2004 > File: F:\My Documents\MY FILES\CFTREE\RubyGracieAnces.GED (27 FEB >2004) > Created by: CFTREE Cumberland Family Tree CFTREE Windows Ver PRO >3.13 > Submitted by: Unknown > Individuals: 19 > Marriages: 12 > Sources: 46 > Repositories: 10 > Errors: 120 > >The following lines in the GEDCOM file could not be processed due to >unrecognizable tags or invalid data: > >ERROR 1: RubyGracieAnces.GED, line 30: RIN 1: Unexpected tag 'TIME' in >Change Date Structure. > > 2 TIME 21:15:11 > > >Mike CALDER >http://members.optusnet.com.au/mikecalder/ > > > >==== CFT-WIN Mailing List ==== >You can contact the List Manager at: >CFT-WIN-admin@rootsweb.com > >============================== >Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration >Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 **********END OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT*********** -- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 7.0.224 / Virus Database: 261.9.10 - Release Date: 2/26/04

Thu, 26 Feb 2004 15:42:06 -0600, Ira wrote >I have been reading some stuff on Clarion Newsgroups and it seems that the >triple combination of XP with Norton Anti Virus and Clarion programs may >cause some troubles. I am using Norton Anti Virus, but it is not active and it makes no change if I disable it. My CFT program exports only about 120-150 individuals pr. minute. I notice that the HD is working constantly all the time. Windows tells me that CFT is running a proces 'cft.exe', which uses only abt. 5% of the CPU power, the rest is assigned 'active systemproces', whatever that may be. It is remarkable the Windows also tells me that the very CFT program changes from 'running' to 'not responding' as soon as the Gedcom export starts. I have no other programs running during the Gedcom export, but there are of course a lot of open Windows processes. They don't use any CPU capacity as far as I can see. I have tried an export of the same (similar) database from another genealogi program. It uses abt. 95% CPU power and it finishes the export in less than 2 minutes. This program stays 'running' during the export. Hope these observations may be of some help. I am prepared to give more details if possible. Erik

Sometimes programs, such as AV programs, cause conflicts even if not activated or enabled. Norton AV has always been one of those programs that cause certain conflicts, just by being on the system! You might take Ira's advice and down- load and install "Windows XP Application Compatibility Update [Q31958]. It just might help! SgtGeorge At 2/26/04 06:14 PM Thursday, Erik Helmer Nielsen wrote: *********START OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT********* >Thu, 26 Feb 2004 15:42:06 -0600, Ira wrote > > >I have been reading some stuff on Clarion Newsgroups and it seems that > the > >triple combination of XP with Norton Anti Virus and Clarion programs may > >cause some troubles. > >I am using Norton Anti Virus, but it is not active and it makes >no change if I disable it. > >My CFT program exports only about 120-150 individuals pr. minute. >I notice that the HD is working constantly all the time. >Windows tells me that CFT is running a proces 'cft.exe', which >uses only abt. 5% of the CPU power, the rest is assigned 'active >systemproces', whatever that may be. >It is remarkable the Windows also tells me that the very CFT >program changes from 'running' to 'not responding' as soon as the >Gedcom export starts. > >I have no other programs running during the Gedcom export, but >there are of course a lot of open Windows processes. They don't >use any CPU capacity as far as I can see. > >I have tried an export of the same (similar) database from >another genealogi program. It uses abt. 95% CPU power and it >finishes the export in less than 2 minutes. This program stays >'running' during the export. > >Hope these observations may be of some help. I am prepared to >give more details if possible. > >Erik **********END OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT*********** -- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 7.0.224 / Virus Database: 261.9.10 - Release Date: 2/26/04

Ira I've been having problems when importing GEDCOM's - every time I do this, I seem to loose one marriage event. I think I've now tracked down what's happening, & it's the Rebuild Indexes which is causing the problem, and not the actual import itself. The problem can be reproduced as follows: 1) Start with a brand-new, empty, database. 2) Add three individuals & two marriages so that the "Story" reads: 1. A A A and B B were married at Boston. A and C C were married at New York. 3) Rebuild the indexes (uncheck all the boxes). The story now reads: 1. A A A and B B were married at Boston. A and C C were married. 4) Rebuild the indexes a second time (uncheck all the boxes). The story now reads: 1. A A A and B B were married. A and C C were married. 5) Looking at the three individuals confirms that both marriages have disappeared. I'm using Windows 98SE & CFT-WIN Version 3.14. Regards -- Les

Here is a quote I found on one posting. Maybe there is a Microsoft bug and updating your XP may help: I'm not sure if this has been posted, but it appears that many of the windows compatability problems (Clarion 5, etc.) has been resolved by MicroSoft. I installed Windows XP Application Compatability Update[Q31958] a couple of days ago and noticed almost immediately that c55 was operating much better. ------------------------------------------------ Mr. Ira J. Lund Cumberland Family Software E-mail: ira.lund@cf-software.com Web: http://www.cf-software.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ira J Lund" <ira.lund@cf-software.com> To: <CFT-WIN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2004 3:42 PM Subject: Re: [CFTW] CFT Ver 3.14 and Windows XP > I have been reading some stuff on Clarion Newsgroups and it seems that the > triple combination of XP with Norton Anti Virus and Clarion programs may > cause some troubles. > > I am still exploring the Windows XP / Clarion connection. > > Ira > ------------------------------------------------ > Mr. Ira J. Lund Cumberland Family Software > E-mail: ira.lund@cf-software.com Web: http://www.cf-software.com > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "George W. Durman" <GeorgeWDurman@comcast.net> > To: <CFT-WIN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2004 2:40 PM > Subject: Re: [CFTW] CFT Ver 3.14 and Windows XP > > > > Erik, > > > > What Anti-Virus (AV) program(s) do you use? How to you > > have them configured? The reason I ask is that my experience > > is that AV programs, if configured to constantly scan every > > file used by Windows, slows down the system very much. > > > > Makes systems operate exactly as you are describing. Some > > AV programs are worse than others. > > > > SgtGeorge > > > > At 2/26/04 08:09 AM Thursday, Ira J Lund wrote: > > *********START OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT********* > > > > >Do you think defragging the disk would help? It is interesting that you > > >have > > >two computers that behave that way and yet no one else is claiming to > have > > >the same problem. > > > > > >Ira > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: "Erik Helmer Nielsen" <ehelmer@boerne.dk> > > >To: <CFT-WIN-L@rootsweb.com> > > >Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 8:38 AM > > >Subject: Re: [CFTW] CFT Ver 3.14 and Windows XP > > > > > > > Wed, 25 Feb 2004 07:20:44 -0600, Ira wrote > > > > > > > > >..... I do not know of a solution. > > > > >Sorry, Ira > > > > > > > > I have two very different PC with Windows XP, a stationary one > > > > and a portable. > > > > They both behave in the same strange way, i.e. extremely slow > > > > Gedcom Export. > > > > Can I really be the only User with that problem? > > > > > > > > Erik Helmer Nielsen >

I have been reading some stuff on Clarion Newsgroups and it seems that the triple combination of XP with Norton Anti Virus and Clarion programs may cause some troubles. I am still exploring the Windows XP / Clarion connection. Ira ------------------------------------------------ Mr. Ira J. Lund Cumberland Family Software E-mail: ira.lund@cf-software.com Web: http://www.cf-software.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "George W. Durman" <GeorgeWDurman@comcast.net> To: <CFT-WIN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2004 2:40 PM Subject: Re: [CFTW] CFT Ver 3.14 and Windows XP > Erik, > > What Anti-Virus (AV) program(s) do you use? How to you > have them configured? The reason I ask is that my experience > is that AV programs, if configured to constantly scan every > file used by Windows, slows down the system very much. > > Makes systems operate exactly as you are describing. Some > AV programs are worse than others. > > SgtGeorge > > At 2/26/04 08:09 AM Thursday, Ira J Lund wrote: > *********START OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT********* > > >Do you think defragging the disk would help? It is interesting that you > >have > >two computers that behave that way and yet no one else is claiming to have > >the same problem. > > > >Ira > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Erik Helmer Nielsen" <ehelmer@boerne.dk> > >To: <CFT-WIN-L@rootsweb.com> > >Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 8:38 AM > >Subject: Re: [CFTW] CFT Ver 3.14 and Windows XP > > > > > Wed, 25 Feb 2004 07:20:44 -0600, Ira wrote > > > > > > >..... I do not know of a solution. > > > >Sorry, Ira > > > > > > I have two very different PC with Windows XP, a stationary one > > > and a portable. > > > They both behave in the same strange way, i.e. extremely slow > > > Gedcom Export. > > > Can I really be the only User with that problem? > > > > > > Erik Helmer Nielsen

Erik, What Anti-Virus (AV) program(s) do you use? How to you have them configured? The reason I ask is that my experience is that AV programs, if configured to constantly scan every file used by Windows, slows down the system very much. Makes systems operate exactly as you are describing. Some AV programs are worse than others. SgtGeorge At 2/26/04 08:09 AM Thursday, Ira J Lund wrote: *********START OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT********* >Do you think defragging the disk would help? It is interesting that you >have >two computers that behave that way and yet no one else is claiming to have >the same problem. > >Ira > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Erik Helmer Nielsen" <ehelmer@boerne.dk> >To: <CFT-WIN-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 8:38 AM >Subject: Re: [CFTW] CFT Ver 3.14 and Windows XP > > > Wed, 25 Feb 2004 07:20:44 -0600, Ira wrote > > > > >..... I do not know of a solution. > > >Sorry, Ira > > > > I have two very different PC with Windows XP, a stationary one > > and a portable. > > They both behave in the same strange way, i.e. extremely slow > > Gedcom Export. > > Can I really be the only User with that problem? > > > > Erik Helmer Nielsen > > **********END OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT*********** -- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 7.0.224 / Virus Database: 261.9.10 - Release Date: 2/26/04

Lots of users have performance problems on XP, not CFT users only, but users of SoftVelocity development products (the producer of software development tool which Ira uses) Perhaps Ira should check the news groups - comp.lang.clarion - softvelocity.public.clarion5x to find the right solution for CFT users vido ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ira J Lund" <ira.lund@cf-software.com> To: <CFT-WIN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2004 2:09 PM Subject: Re: [CFTW] CFT Ver 3.14 and Windows XP > Do you think defragging the disk would help? It is interesting that you have > two computers that behave that way and yet no one else is claiming to have > the same problem. > > Ira > ------------------------------------------------ > Mr. Ira J. Lund Cumberland Family Software > E-mail: ira.lund@cf-software.com Web: http://www.cf-software.com >