Ira: I have been reading about the new OneWorldTree service being built at Ancestry.Com (read that, "MyFamily.Com") and discovered that Ancestry is offering a genealogy database program, "Ancestry Family Tree" (AFT). It's free, but is tied into this new endeavor, the "OneWorldTree" service. I downloaded and installed it. Looks to me as it is a near clone of CFTW! Just without the user-friendly interface and all the "goodies" that CFTW has. The kicker with this "new" program is that it's tied to Ancestry via the Internet, and a user can submit his database to Ancestry with the click of a button. The folks at MyFamily have surely hired some very sharp marketing and programming people. They continue to find new ways to make money for the company. I only wish I knew WHO really owned it. It's based in Salt Lake City, and has just about cornered the market on computer genealogy database programs, yours being one of the very, very few exceptions; plus, it seems to have absorbed just about all the more popular genealogy websites, . Maybe they thought it easier to just "copy" your program rather than "buy" it. Heck, they control PAF, FTM, etc., etc. Methinks that if we're not careful, there will be only one company in the world that produces genealogy programs and has genealogy web sites for our use. ????? Regards, SgtGeorge George W. Durman -- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 7.0.241 / Virus Database: 262.9.20 - Release Date: 5/11/04

================================================== If any of you have submitted a family tree to Ancestry.com/MyFamily.com for free viewing by researchers, there are some things you need to know about the new "OneWorldTree" service at the MyFamily suite of websites, which includes Ancestry, MyFamily, Rootsweb, etc.. Your family tree genealogy database(s) will continue to be viewable at no cost, using the current search engines at Ancestry; however, the new OneWorldTree service, which requires a paid subscription, will shortly be including the data in your submissions in its service. What the OneWorldTree service does is search through all the family tree databases on the Ancestry/MyFamily websites and includes all the data from them. It is a scheme to make it easier for the "online" researcher to find pertinent information quicker and easier, and to present such information in a compiled format. At the same time, Ancestry/MyFamily will gain increased revenue from subscribers to the new OneWorldTree, and the subscription price is NOT cheap -- $49.95 for a 14 month subscription, or $39.95 if you are already subscribed to the basic services at Ancestry. Personally, I have no objections to Ancestry/MyFamily doing this, AS LONG AS THEY CONTINUE TO OFFER, for free, searches of the "old" "Ancestry World Tree" databases. Those who want to save some time in their searches, and who are willing to pay the price, are welcome to the "new" search utility. If you don't like the idea of Ancestry/MyFamily taking your contributed genealogy database files and including them in their "paid" search utility, you'll have to remove your tree from the Ancestry World Tree database. Go to: http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/trees/owt/ Click on "What's a Preview". Scroll down to #4: "Have you already submitted a family tree?" Click on "...view our checklist...". A few lines down you will see: "If for any reason you do not want your tree to be part of the new OneWorldTree service, you must delete it from the Ancestry World Tree database by tentatively May 21, 2004." There are instructions for removing your tree: <http://ancestry.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/ancestry.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=1090> (When you get to the page that is opened when you click on "...view our checklist...", I suggest you go to the bottom of the page and click on each link there and read what each says.) ================================================== READ ON: I have received several emails from genealogy researchers who are crying, "The sky is falling." If I have read all the information at Ancestry correctly, the family tree databases contributed freely to Ancestry World Tree will still be available at no cost to all users, and it's only when one wishes to access the special OneWorldTree utility that another paid subscription is necessary. If later I'm proven wrong in this matter, that is, if the "free" family trees are no longer "free", and if a user must pay for OneWorldTree to see ANY user contributed family tree databases, I will be the first to call for a petition to boycott all of MyFamily's various genealogy endeavors! (I do remember some Rootsweb users warning about such mercenary, money-grubbing behavior when Rootsweb sold out to Ancestry/MyFamily. ) And, I will be the first to delete my family tree databases at Ancestry and advise everyone else to do likewise. (I don't think this will happen -- NO ONE is going to contribute their genealogy databases to a company that charges others to view them!) If anyone has a different take on this, please feel free to let us know. As I hear from other users of Rootsweb/Ancestry, I will pass along the information. Regards, SgtGeorge George W. Durman -- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 7.0.241 / Virus Database: 262.9.20 - Release Date: 5/11/04

George, maybe I misundertood your email in the first round. I now checked all the emails in my folder with old deleted emails and found 5 emails with address LB27@uk2.net from Les Bedford dated 26.feb. 2004.Should I now permannently delete those emails or what? Krgds, Jens, Holte, Denmark -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: CFT-WIN List Manager [mailto:GeorgeWDurman@comcast.net] Sendt: 9. maj 2004 21:06 Til: CFT-WIN-L@rootsweb.com Emne: [CFTW] The NETSKY-P Worm (PLEASE READ !!!!!) It is possible that someone who is a subscriber to this List is infected with the NETSKY-P worm. In an effort to help that person, AND to stop that person's infected computer from continuing to send out aggravating copies of the worm, I ask that each of you look in your Address Book, and in the email sitting in your email program and see if you have the following email addresses in your Address Book, AND look through your email and see if you have email from both these addresses. genealogical@parishchest.com lb27@uk2.net (That's "LB27@uk2.net") Any help will be appreciated. Also, I continue to be advised that "I" am sending out infected attachments. The TO: header always contains an address that is subscribed to this CFT-WIN-L Mailing List, and the FROM: header is my email address. That means only one thing -- SOMEONE subscribed to this List is, without a doubt, infected with one or more viruses, worms, trojans, etc. I truly hope that, this time, the person with the infected computer reads this and takes the time to run an up-to-date Anti-Virus (AV) program on his/her system. I have asked several times before, but the spoofed emails continue. SOMEONE is neglecting his/her responsibilities to the Internet community and causing these infections to propagate. If anyone reading this does NOT have an AV program installed, and/or it is not up-to-date with the latest virus definition files, INSTALL AN AV PROGRAM IMMEDIATELY and/or KEEP IT UPDATED DAILY !!!!! Whoever has the infected computer is either corresponding with users in European countries, or is saving emails from this List from users in European countries. In either case, please take care of this problem. Thank you, George W. Durman CFT-WIN List Manager -- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 7.0.241 / Virus Database: 262.9.18 - Release Date: 5/9/04 ==== CFT-WIN Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe from CFT-WIN, send an e-mail message to: CFT-WIN-L-request@rootsweb.com (for individual messages) CFT-WIN-D-request@rootsweb.com (for Digest mode) Subject: unsubscribe In the body include only one word: unsubscribe (Turn OFF your signature file when sending this command) ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

George I have checked my address book and find no such addresses. I have also run my Anti Virus (Norton 2003) and have found no viruses. Hope you can get the problem taken care of. Bill LaBarge CFT-WIN List Manager wrote: > It is possible that someone who is a subscriber to this List is > infected with the NETSKY-P worm. In an effort to help that person, > AND to stop that person's infected computer from continuing to send > out aggravating copies of the worm, I ask that each of you look in > your Address Book, and in the email sitting in your email program and > see if you have the following email addresses in your Address Book, > AND look through your email and see if you have email from both these > addresses. > > genealogical@parishchest.com > lb27@uk2.net (That's "LB27@uk2.net") > > Any help will be appreciated. > > Also, I continue to be advised that "I" am sending out infected > attachments. The TO: header always contains an address that is > subscribed to this CFT-WIN-L Mailing List, and the FROM: header is my > email address. That means only one thing -- SOMEONE subscribed to > this List is, without a doubt, infected with one or more viruses, > worms, trojans, etc. > > I truly hope that, this time, the person with the infected computer > reads this and takes the time to run an up-to-date Anti-Virus (AV) > program on his/her system. I have asked several times before, but the > spoofed emails continue. SOMEONE is neglecting his/her > responsibilities to the Internet community and causing these > infections to propagate. > > If anyone reading this does NOT have an AV program installed, and/or > it is not up-to-date with the latest virus definition files, INSTALL > AN AV PROGRAM IMMEDIATELY and/or KEEP IT UPDATED DAILY !!!!! > > Whoever has the infected computer is either corresponding with users > in European countries, or is saving emails from this List from users > in European countries. In either case, please take care of this problem. > > Thank you, > George W. Durman > CFT-WIN List Manager > >

My AVG is upto date, and as a double check, a search of my Pegasus mail program reveals neither of the two addresses. Tim Churchill -- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 7.0.241 / Virus Database: 262.9.19 - Release Date: 10/05/2004

Hello George, no such email address in my address book. Sorry! Jens, Holte, Denmark -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: CFT-WIN List Manager [mailto:GeorgeWDurman@comcast.net] Sendt: 9. maj 2004 21:06 Til: CFT-WIN-L@rootsweb.com Emne: [CFTW] The NETSKY-P Worm (PLEASE READ !!!!!) It is possible that someone who is a subscriber to this List is infected with the NETSKY-P worm. In an effort to help that person, AND to stop that person's infected computer from continuing to send out aggravating copies of the worm, I ask that each of you look in your Address Book, and in the email sitting in your email program and see if you have the following email addresses in your Address Book, AND look through your email and see if you have email from both these addresses. genealogical@parishchest.com lb27@uk2.net (That's "LB27@uk2.net") Any help will be appreciated. Also, I continue to be advised that "I" am sending out infected attachments. The TO: header always contains an address that is subscribed to this CFT-WIN-L Mailing List, and the FROM: header is my email address. That means only one thing -- SOMEONE subscribed to this List is, without a doubt, infected with one or more viruses, worms, trojans, etc. I truly hope that, this time, the person with the infected computer reads this and takes the time to run an up-to-date Anti-Virus (AV) program on his/her system. I have asked several times before, but the spoofed emails continue. SOMEONE is neglecting his/her responsibilities to the Internet community and causing these infections to propagate. If anyone reading this does NOT have an AV program installed, and/or it is not up-to-date with the latest virus definition files, INSTALL AN AV PROGRAM IMMEDIATELY and/or KEEP IT UPDATED DAILY !!!!! Whoever has the infected computer is either corresponding with users in European countries, or is saving emails from this List from users in European countries. In either case, please take care of this problem. Thank you, George W. Durman CFT-WIN List Manager -- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 7.0.241 / Virus Database: 262.9.18 - Release Date: 5/9/04 ==== CFT-WIN Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe from CFT-WIN, send an e-mail message to: CFT-WIN-L-request@rootsweb.com (for individual messages) CFT-WIN-D-request@rootsweb.com (for Digest mode) Subject: unsubscribe In the body include only one word: unsubscribe (Turn OFF your signature file when sending this command) ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

I believe your experience is correct based on my recollection of things. Internally there is no limit in the database, but the limit occurs when the web pages are generated. I believe that in the web page generation there is an "array" or limit in a certain area of the HTML generation and I thought no one could have more than 20 so I picked 20 as the upper limit. I will have to increase this limit, evidently. Ira ------------------------------------------------ Mr. Ira J. Lund Cumberland Family Software E-mail: ira.lund@cf-software.com Web: http://www.cf-software.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sigurd Eliassen" <sigurde@spjelkavik.vgs.no> To: <CFT-WIN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 10, 2004 11:05 AM Subject: [CFTW] Web-publishing CFTW 3.14 and missing links > According to the CFTW 3.14 manual page 23, there is no limit regarding > the number of marriages per person. > > When we use the program to create web pages, however, there seems to > be a limit of 20 marriages (or other relationships) per person. > > When a male has children with more than 20 women, only the 20 first > ones are listed at the web pages produced by CFTW 3.14 - that means > that a certain page includes one spouse and all the children of that > relationship - and 19 other spouses are listed as other spouses. > > If we look a little bit closer at it, we will find that the family > pages for the spouses from nr. 21 and further on are produced, but the > links to those pages are missing. > > Ira, do you have a comment on this? > > Sigurd Eliassen

According to the CFTW 3.14 manual page 23, there is no limit regarding the number of marriages per person. When we use the program to create web pages, however, there seems to be a limit of 20 marriages (or other relationships) per person. When a male has children with more than 20 women, only the 20 first ones are listed at the web pages produced by CFTW 3.14 - that means that a certain page includes one spouse and all the children of that relationship - and 19 other spouses are listed as other spouses. If we look a little bit closer at it, we will find that the family pages for the spouses from nr. 21 and further on are produced, but the links to those pages are missing. Ira, do you have a comment on this? Sigurd Eliassen

I have never heard of this happening. It makes me thing something is wrong. Try running the Rebuild (Tools Menu) and then see if things are fine. If not let us know. Ira ------------------------------------------------ Mr. Ira J. Lund Cumberland Family Software E-mail: ira.lund@cf-software.com Web: http://www.cf-software.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "George Bush" <bush.lyme@ntlworld.com> To: <CFT-WIN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2004 4:25 PM Subject: [CFTW] Selection Lists > Hello everyone. > I have only just signed up so it is possible that this subject has already been covered. > Basically, the problem is that I can only create 1 selection list at a time. When I try to add a second, the "add" button seems to act like the "edit" button, so that all I can do is amend the existing list. > Does anyone know of a way round this? > Regards > George Bush

It is possible that someone who is a subscriber to this List is infected with the NETSKY-P worm. In an effort to help that person, AND to stop that person's infected computer from continuing to send out aggravating copies of the worm, I ask that each of you look in your Address Book, and in the email sitting in your email program and see if you have the following email addresses in your Address Book, AND look through your email and see if you have email from both these addresses. genealogical@parishchest.com lb27@uk2.net (That's "LB27@uk2.net") Any help will be appreciated. Also, I continue to be advised that "I" am sending out infected attachments. The TO: header always contains an address that is subscribed to this CFT-WIN-L Mailing List, and the FROM: header is my email address. That means only one thing -- SOMEONE subscribed to this List is, without a doubt, infected with one or more viruses, worms, trojans, etc. I truly hope that, this time, the person with the infected computer reads this and takes the time to run an up-to-date Anti-Virus (AV) program on his/her system. I have asked several times before, but the spoofed emails continue. SOMEONE is neglecting his/her responsibilities to the Internet community and causing these infections to propagate. If anyone reading this does NOT have an AV program installed, and/or it is not up-to-date with the latest virus definition files, INSTALL AN AV PROGRAM IMMEDIATELY and/or KEEP IT UPDATED DAILY !!!!! Whoever has the infected computer is either corresponding with users in European countries, or is saving emails from this List from users in European countries. In either case, please take care of this problem. Thank you, George W. Durman CFT-WIN List Manager -- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 7.0.241 / Virus Database: 262.9.18 - Release Date: 5/9/04

Hello everyone. I have only just signed up so it is possible that this subject has already been covered. Basically, the problem is that I can only create 1 selection list at a time. When I try to add a second, the "add" button seems to act like the "edit" button, so that all I can do is amend the existing list. Does anyone know of a way round this? Regards George Bush

Mike, Thanks for the info on PAF5. I'll look into it. Bruce. > > > I'd like to be able to print out Family Charts for > > > our next reunion, > > Further to my last regarding Blank charts from PAF5, which I use on > occasions but does not replace CFT by any means; I now find that you can > also print out FAMILY Group Chart with the option "Print event boxes > when blank" which will do exactly what you want for a family group.

G'day Bruce, > > I'd like to be able to print out Family Charts for > > our next reunion, Further to my last regarding Blank charts from PAF5, which I use on occasions but does not replace CFT by any means; I now find that you can also print out FAMILY Group Chart with the option "Print event boxes when blank" which will do exactly what you want for a family group. There is also a custom report option which I am sure you could use to provide a separate sheet for each person that you need but I have not tried it. If you want a PDF of what the FAMILY Group Chart looks like let me know. You would of course have to make a GEDCOM (export) of the people you want from CFTW and put it into PAF5 which is as I say free from the LDS web site. Mike CALDER http://members.optusnet.com.au/mikecalder/

G'day All, Back again on this subject. Besides CFT I also have PAF5 (a freebie) from LDS Family Search website for "testing" purposes of GEDCOMs etc. I now find that that application has the ability under "Print Reports" to print a BLANK copies of both PEDIGREE and FAMILY GROUP forms. I have the latter in a PDF format if anyone wants a copy. I now realise that my previous post was about "pedigrees" not family groups. Mike CALDER http://members.optusnet.com.au/mikecalder/

I have also looked high and low for a way of providing information I have collected and information I have not in a form to enable familys to provide input. My solution, although not very elegant was to screen print the family record displayed for each family and insert into a word document. I then created headers for each primary family to enable easy reference. Regards John Vendel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gale Fursdon" <gale@ihug.co.nz> To: <CFT-WIN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 1:30 PM Subject: Re: [CFTW] Printing Family Group Charts > I use the report Standard Individual List, using a selection list for the > particular group. It only prints on single pages,so it is necessary to have > the pages copied onto larger sheets of paper. > Regards > Gale Fursdon > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike Calder" <mikecalder@optusnet.com.au> > To: <CFT-WIN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 8:53 AM > Subject: RE: [CFTW] Printing Family Group Charts > > > G'day , > > > The closest I could get what I'm searching for, the > > "fill-in-the-blank Family Group Sheet" was the Descendant > > Tree Chart. This report contains the small boxes, like you > > suggested, but it doesn't give much room for write-in > > answers. > > You may like to take a look at the Dumfries and Galloway Family History > Society website below and then go to Members' Interests and Pedigree > Charts where you will find an Excel and a PDF version for downloading. > Although submission to the DGFHS is for members only I am sure they > would not begrudge you the use of their chart. Not sure about the PDF > but you should be able to "blow up" the Excel as large as you like. > > http://www.dgfhs.org.uk/index.htm > > > Mike CALDER > http://members.optusnet.com.au/mikecalder/ > Researching: CALDER, DIXON, TUSON, GRACIE > D&GFHS #2979 > > > ==== CFT-WIN Mailing List ==== > You can contact the List Manager at: > CFT-WIN-admin@rootsweb.com > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > ==== CFT-WIN Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from CFT-WIN, send an e-mail message to: > CFT-WIN-L-request@rootsweb.com (for individual messages) > CFT-WIN-D-request@rootsweb.com (for Digest mode) > Subject: unsubscribe > In the body include only one word: unsubscribe > (Turn OFF your signature file when sending this command) > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

Could I get some kind soul--ANY kind of soul--to write me personally and explain, step by easy step, exactly how to set up a Family Group Chart report in Version 3.14. All I ever get when I click on the PREVIEW tab after setting up a report is a title and a couple of blank pages. As I did not have this problem with Version 2.5, I must be doing something wrong in Version 3.14. help. Walt Boswell Born (Dumb as Dirt) in the USA hogdu26@knology.net

I use the report Standard Individual List, using a selection list for the particular group. It only prints on single pages,so it is necessary to have the pages copied onto larger sheets of paper. Regards Gale Fursdon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Calder" <mikecalder@optusnet.com.au> To: <CFT-WIN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 8:53 AM Subject: RE: [CFTW] Printing Family Group Charts G'day , > The closest I could get what I'm searching for, the > "fill-in-the-blank Family Group Sheet" was the Descendant > Tree Chart. This report contains the small boxes, like you > suggested, but it doesn't give much room for write-in > answers. You may like to take a look at the Dumfries and Galloway Family History Society website below and then go to Members' Interests and Pedigree Charts where you will find an Excel and a PDF version for downloading. Although submission to the DGFHS is for members only I am sure they would not begrudge you the use of their chart. Not sure about the PDF but you should be able to "blow up" the Excel as large as you like. http://www.dgfhs.org.uk/index.htm Mike CALDER http://members.optusnet.com.au/mikecalder/ Researching: CALDER, DIXON, TUSON, GRACIE D&GFHS #2979 ==== CFT-WIN Mailing List ==== You can contact the List Manager at: CFT-WIN-admin@rootsweb.com ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

G'day , > The closest I could get what I'm searching for, the > "fill-in-the-blank Family Group Sheet" was the Descendant > Tree Chart. This report contains the small boxes, like you > suggested, but it doesn't give much room for write-in > answers. You may like to take a look at the Dumfries and Galloway Family History Society website below and then go to Members' Interests and Pedigree Charts where you will find an Excel and a PDF version for downloading. Although submission to the DGFHS is for members only I am sure they would not begrudge you the use of their chart. Not sure about the PDF but you should be able to "blow up" the Excel as large as you like. http://www.dgfhs.org.uk/index.htm Mike CALDER http://members.optusnet.com.au/mikecalder/ Researching: CALDER, DIXON, TUSON, GRACIE D&GFHS #2979

There is no way. You could temporarily disconnect before printing or sharing data, then reconnect after wards. Ira --- "Bruce E. Hall" <brucehall@ameritech.net> wrote: > Does anyone have a good way to mark an individual as > "sensitive"? > > For example, a child is born out of wedlock and > given up for adoption. > The parents subsequently marry and have other > children. The family > would like to keep the first birth a private matter, > and not published > in any form. Is there a good way to suppress this > data in the printed > reports? > > I know I can mark all of the first child's events, > including birth, as > sensitive. But the existence of the child is not > hidden. > > Bruce. > > > > ==== CFT-WIN Mailing List ==== > You can contact the List Manager at: > CFT-WIN-admin@rootsweb.com > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the > new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click > to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > ===== Mr. Ira J Lund Cumberland Family Software Web Site: www.cf-software.com E-mail: ira.lund@cf-software.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business $15K Web Design Giveaway http://promotions.yahoo.com/design_giveaway/

You are correct that CFT currently does not have a way to do this. Ira --- "Bruce E. Hall" <brucehall@ameritech.net> wrote: > I'd like to be able to print out Family Charts for > our next reunion, > such that the data I know is shown, and that data > that I don't know > (such as a birthdate or burial place) is blank. > Then the attendees can > review it and fill in the blanks. > > Has anyone been able to do this with CFT? My > printed Family Charts show > only the events that I have entered, and do not > leave room (labeled or > otherwise) for the missing information. > > Bruce. ===== Mr. Ira J Lund Cumberland Family Software Web Site: www.cf-software.com E-mail: ira.lund@cf-software.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business $15K Web Design Giveaway http://promotions.yahoo.com/design_giveaway/