Just to add to this, I want to use Cumberland because it has a birthday list that I like and can use for web sites for relatives. I have searched for programs to do this and Family tree maker, Legacy, PAF, and others do not. If someone knows of a program that does a birthday list like this I would appreciate knowing. I want the Name, birth date, and age to show starting in January throught December. So many of them either sort alpha by name, in calendar view that does not work good on web sites, drops off first name and uses initials instead, can only print them not save in a file, and so on. Cumberland puts out a list that shows what I want and the order I want. Thanks, Jerry Longstrom

Yes, the 45 day trial does work with GEDCOM files. It should work. Email one of the ged files to me personally and I will take a look. Ira ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------- Mr. Ira J. Lund Cumberland Family Software www.cf-software.com -----Original Message----- From: Jerry Longstrom [mailto:jelaz@cox.net] Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 2:59 PM To: CFT-WIN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CFTW] gedcoms I uninstalled and downloaded another cumberland. I made a gedcom from family tree maker & from Legacy. (saving on my hard drive) I saved them as different names, and none of them will work. This is really strange to me. Does anyone know if the 45 day trial does not include gedcoms? The web site says it does. Thanks, Jerry Longstrom ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Churchill" <tchurchill@omne.uk.net> To: <CFT-WIN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 12:21 PM Subject: Re: [CFTW] gedcoms > Well you have 3 options; your download was faulty/corrupt, your > gedcom IS corrupt, or there is something non-standard in the gedcom > that CFT doesn't recognise. Personally I have had no trouble with CFT > and gedcom import/exports. Perhaps someone else on the List has > further ideas? > > Best wishes, > > Tim Churchill > > On 15 Feb 2005 at 11:12, Jerry Longstrom wrote: > >> Greetings, >> >> I have just downloaded the 45 day free trial 3.14 version of >> Cumberland. It seems to do what I would like a program to do for me, >> but I when I try to import a gedcom it tells me the file is corrupt. I >> have imported this file to other programs I know have and they work. >> >> I thought the free trial would use gedcoms, am I wrong? >> >> Thanks, >> Jerry Longstrom >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> >> >> ==== CFT-WIN Mailing List ==== >> To unsubscribe from CFT-WIN, send an e-mail message to: >> CFT-WIN-L-request@rootsweb.com (for individual messages) >> CFT-WIN-D-request@rootsweb.com (for Digest mode) >> Subject: unsubscribe >> In the body include only one word: unsubscribe >> (Turn OFF your signature file when sending this command) >> >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >> Version: 7.0.306 / Virus Database: 265.8.7 - Release Date: 10/02/2005 >> > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.306 / Virus Database: 265.8.7 - Release Date: 10/02/2005 > > > ==== CFT-WIN Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from CFT-WIN, send an e-mail message to: > CFT-WIN-L-request@rootsweb.com (for individual messages) > CFT-WIN-D-request@rootsweb.com (for Digest mode) > Subject: unsubscribe > In the body include only one word: unsubscribe > (Turn OFF your signature file when sending this command) > > ==== CFT-WIN Mailing List ==== You can contact the List Manager at: CFT-WIN-admin@rootsweb.com

I uninstalled and downloaded another cumberland. I made a gedcom from family tree maker & from Legacy. (saving on my hard drive) I saved them as different names, and none of them will work. This is really strange to me. Does anyone know if the 45 day trial does not include gedcoms? The web site says it does. Thanks, Jerry Longstrom ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Churchill" <tchurchill@omne.uk.net> To: <CFT-WIN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 12:21 PM Subject: Re: [CFTW] gedcoms > Well you have 3 options; your download was faulty/corrupt, your > gedcom IS corrupt, or there is something non-standard in the gedcom > that CFT doesn't recognise. Personally I have had no trouble with CFT > and gedcom import/exports. Perhaps someone else on the List has > further ideas? > > Best wishes, > > Tim Churchill > > On 15 Feb 2005 at 11:12, Jerry Longstrom wrote: > >> Greetings, >> >> I have just downloaded the 45 day free trial 3.14 version of >> Cumberland. It seems to do what I would like a program to do for me, >> but I when I try to import a gedcom it tells me the file is corrupt. I >> have imported this file to other programs I know have and they work. >> >> I thought the free trial would use gedcoms, am I wrong? >> >> Thanks, >> Jerry Longstrom >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> >> >> ==== CFT-WIN Mailing List ==== >> To unsubscribe from CFT-WIN, send an e-mail message to: >> CFT-WIN-L-request@rootsweb.com (for individual messages) >> CFT-WIN-D-request@rootsweb.com (for Digest mode) >> Subject: unsubscribe >> In the body include only one word: unsubscribe >> (Turn OFF your signature file when sending this command) >> >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >> Version: 7.0.306 / Virus Database: 265.8.7 - Release Date: 10/02/2005 >> > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.306 / Virus Database: 265.8.7 - Release Date: 10/02/2005 > > > ==== CFT-WIN Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from CFT-WIN, send an e-mail message to: > CFT-WIN-L-request@rootsweb.com (for individual messages) > CFT-WIN-D-request@rootsweb.com (for Digest mode) > Subject: unsubscribe > In the body include only one word: unsubscribe > (Turn OFF your signature file when sending this command) > >

Greetings, I have just downloaded the 45 day free trial 3.14 version of Cumberland. It seems to do what I would like a program to do for me, but I when I try to import a gedcom it tells me the file is corrupt. I have imported this file to other programs I know have and they work. I thought the free trial would use gedcoms, am I wrong? Thanks, Jerry Longstrom ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Roger, Report > Descendent Story Look at the bottom of page. There are two options to include or not the spouse and children. And on top of same report page look for History Options about inclusions. May be the case regards leonel > Hello Group > > This problem may have been reported before and perhaps Ira only needs > point > me to the correct place in the Help file. > > Whenever I produce a descendant Story from my data base I have a lot of > repeated detail which will just waste paper. > e.g.: > Perhaps I have Mr J Smith who has 10 children > I have a lot of details on Mr J smith but little on his children > > When I prepare a descendent story I have all the details of Mr J Smith > repeated as the parent of each child in turn. (" The parents of child A > are > J Smith and .......ect. ) One copy of this would be enough with just the > parents names and perhaps IRN plus birth marriage and death details at the > most. > > Is there any simple way of sorting this or removing the mass of detail > repeated for the parents or do I have to edit the report before it is > printed, a lengthy job. > > Roger > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.7 - Release Date: 10/02/2005

Hello Group This problem may have been reported before and perhaps Ira only needs point me to the correct place in the Help file. Whenever I produce a descendant Story from my data base I have a lot of repeated detail which will just waste paper. e.g.: Perhaps I have Mr J Smith who has 10 children I have a lot of details on Mr J smith but little on his children When I prepare a descendent story I have all the details of Mr J Smith repeated as the parent of each child in turn. (" The parents of child A are J Smith and .......ect. ) One copy of this would be enough with just the parents names and perhaps IRN plus birth marriage and death details at the most. Is there any simple way of sorting this or removing the mass of detail repeated for the parents or do I have to edit the report before it is printed, a lengthy job. Roger

The program has internally built to try to print as much detail as possible. If for example a child does not have anything more than birth and death date then typically it won't have a + sign and continuation. If however, there is a spouse or other details that don't show up when listed under his parents then the child has a + sign and more info is given. So although some of the data may be repeated there is typically at least one extra piece of information that shows up when listed by themselves as when they were listed as a child. Ira ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------- Mr. Ira J. Lund Cumberland Family Software www.cf-software.com -----Original Message----- From: Roger Nelson [mailto:rog@uk2.net] Sent: Friday, February 11, 2005 3:16 AM To: CFT-WIN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [CFTW] Descendant Story Hello Group This problem may have been reported before and perhaps Ira only needs point me to the correct place in the Help file. Whenever I produce a descendant Story from my data base I have a lot of repeated detail which will just waste paper. e.g.: Perhaps I have Mr J Smith who has 10 children I have a lot of details on Mr J smith but little on his children When I prepare a descendent story I have all the details of Mr J Smith repeated as the parent of each child in turn. (" The parents of child A are J Smith and .......ect. ) One copy of this would be enough with just the parents names and perhaps IRN plus birth marriage and death details at the most. Is there any simple way of sorting this or removing the mass of detail repeated for the parents or do I have to edit the report before it is printed, a lengthy job. Roger ==== CFT-WIN Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe from CFT-WIN, send an e-mail message to: CFT-WIN-L-request@rootsweb.com (for individual messages) CFT-WIN-D-request@rootsweb.com (for Digest mode) Subject: unsubscribe In the body include only one word: unsubscribe (Turn OFF your signature file when sending this command)

Thanks Ira, a reinstall did the job. Ian -----Original Message----- From: Ira J Lund [mailto:ira.lund@cf-software.com] Sent: 08 February 2005 14:24 To: CFT-WIN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [CFTW] Error Message For English users it makes me concerned that something has happened to one of the language files (stdevent.tps and ucc.tps). Perhaps a reinstall would help. For languages other than English this can usually be solved by going to Options Menu - Program Configuration - Language Tab. Highlight the language used, check ALL boxes on right and click EDIT button at top. Then after list is loaded simply Close that window. This causes all the words to be resaved including any possible missing ones (but they were rebuilt from the English list - which is the base language). Ira ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------- Mr. Ira J. Lund Cumberland Family Software www.cf-software.com -----Original Message----- From: Ian Marson [mailto:ian.marson@connectfree.co.uk] Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 1:06 PM To: CFT-WIN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [CFTW] Error Message For some reason I have started to get the following error message when exiting CFT. Word not found in language file word code 0 It does not appear to create any problems but it is annoying, any ideas? Ian ==== CFT-WIN Mailing List ==== You can contact the List Manager at: CFT-WIN-admin@rootsweb.com ==== CFT-WIN Mailing List ==== You can contact the List Manager at: CFT-WIN-admin@rootsweb.com

Thank you, Ira, Your answers always make sense. Carl ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ira J Lund" <ira.lund@cf-software.com> To: <CFT-WIN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 7:24 AM Subject: RE: [CFTW] Source Reference List > Yes, it makes sense that if you delete a source, then that source no longer > exists so any reference to it has to go also. What you should do is use the > MERGE sources button. This causes all references to a given source to be > moved to another source that is basically identical and then delete the > extra source. > > Hope this helps. Ira > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > -------- > Mr. Ira J. Lund > Cumberland Family Software > www.cf-software.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: Carl or Marie Veenstra [mailto:cnmveenstra@cox.net] > Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 8:35 PM > To: CFT-WIN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [CFTW] Source Reference List > > Hello List; > I have stumbled upon a source of much double work in the sourcing of names > in my database. > I have built up quite a long list of Sources, and in trying to make the list > a little shorter, I have deleted some of the sources that I am finished > with. > To my great dismay, I have found that they are not only deleted from the > Source list, they are also deleted out of the main program, so that some of > my data that previously had sources given, now has none. > Is this the way that the program works, or have I done something I should > not have done? I did not want a mile long list of Sources to go through each > time I list a name. > > Help? > Carl W. Veenstra > > > > ==== CFT-WIN Mailing List ==== > You can contact the List Manager at: > CFT-WIN-admin@rootsweb.com > > > ==== CFT-WIN Mailing List ==== > You can contact the List Manager at: > CFT-WIN-admin@rootsweb.com >

Yes, it makes sense that if you delete a source, then that source no longer exists so any reference to it has to go also. What you should do is use the MERGE sources button. This causes all references to a given source to be moved to another source that is basically identical and then delete the extra source. Hope this helps. Ira ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------- Mr. Ira J. Lund Cumberland Family Software www.cf-software.com -----Original Message----- From: Carl or Marie Veenstra [mailto:cnmveenstra@cox.net] Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 8:35 PM To: CFT-WIN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [CFTW] Source Reference List Hello List; I have stumbled upon a source of much double work in the sourcing of names in my database. I have built up quite a long list of Sources, and in trying to make the list a little shorter, I have deleted some of the sources that I am finished with. To my great dismay, I have found that they are not only deleted from the Source list, they are also deleted out of the main program, so that some of my data that previously had sources given, now has none. Is this the way that the program works, or have I done something I should not have done? I did not want a mile long list of Sources to go through each time I list a name. Help? Carl W. Veenstra ==== CFT-WIN Mailing List ==== You can contact the List Manager at: CFT-WIN-admin@rootsweb.com

For English users it makes me concerned that something has happened to one of the language files (stdevent.tps and ucc.tps). Perhaps a reinstall would help. For languages other than English this can usually be solved by going to Options Menu - Program Configuration - Language Tab. Highlight the language used, check ALL boxes on right and click EDIT button at top. Then after list is loaded simply Close that window. This causes all the words to be resaved including any possible missing ones (but they were rebuilt from the English list - which is the base language). Ira ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------- Mr. Ira J. Lund Cumberland Family Software www.cf-software.com -----Original Message----- From: Ian Marson [mailto:ian.marson@connectfree.co.uk] Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 1:06 PM To: CFT-WIN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [CFTW] Error Message For some reason I have started to get the following error message when exiting CFT. Word not found in language file word code 0 It does not appear to create any problems but it is annoying, any ideas? Ian ==== CFT-WIN Mailing List ==== You can contact the List Manager at: CFT-WIN-admin@rootsweb.com

For some reason I have started to get the following error message when exiting CFT. Word not found in language file word code 0 It does not appear to create any problems but it is annoying, any ideas? Ian

Ian: I had the same message appear for a while. I can't remember the circumstances, but it left after a time. Robert Sheldon Telford, Long Beach, CA

Hello List; I have stumbled upon a source of much double work in the sourcing of names in my database. I have built up quite a long list of Sources, and in trying to make the list a little shorter, I have deleted some of the sources that I am finished with. To my great dismay, I have found that they are not only deleted from the Source list, they are also deleted out of the main program, so that some of my data that previously had sources given, now has none. Is this the way that the program works, or have I done something I should not have done? I did not want a mile long list of Sources to go through each time I list a name. Help? Carl W. Veenstra

Due to the way dates are stored internally in Ver 3 as opposed to ver 2 has caused this problem. In Ver 2 the date was stored as pure text exactly the way it was entered. In Ver 3 a date is stored as numeric day, month and year numbers with conversion routines which allow calculations to be made. Thus for the date range searches a day and month only won't work. Sorry, Ira ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------- Mr. Ira J. Lund Cumberland Family Software www.cf-software.com -----Original Message----- From: Jon Myers [mailto:emquad@worldnet.att.net] Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2005 11:34 AM To: CFT-WIN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CFTW] Date Search That's the problem. I don't want to enter a full date. I want to enter a day-month and have the program return all events which have that day-month, that is, all years. As said, this works easily in v.2. JM At 08:11 AM 2/3/2005 -0800, you wrote: >Hello Jon > >Follow "Tools, Global Search" When this window opens click on the tab "Date >Search" Both "Start Date" and "End Date" fields have to be filled in. For a >single day both date fields would have the same date. Also a full date must >be used e.g. 01 Jan 2005. > > >Jerry >Port Coquitlam >B.C. Canada > >web page http://members.shaw.ca/dimsdale > >DIMSDALE, GEDDES, ECKHOLDT, DOWNER, SINCLAIR, ETHERINGTON, MACK, LAMB > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Jon Myers" <emquad@worldnet.att.net> >To: <CFT-WIN-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2005 7:31 AM >Subject: [CFTW] Date Search > > >> Could anyone tell me how to do a date search in version 3? Let's day I >> want >> to see all birthdays for today's date. In version 2 this was easy--one >> could do a search on a specified DATE, e.g., "03 feb," but this does not >> appear to be an option in the version 3 search mechanism. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Jon Myers >> Try the Myers family tree search engine: >> http://emquad.home.att.net/ancestry.html >> NB. For reasons unknown, some browsers >> will reject this address the first time >> it is entered but accept it the second. >> >> >> ==== CFT-WIN Mailing List ==== >> You can contact the List Manager at: >> CFT-WIN-admin@rootsweb.com >> >> > > > >==== CFT-WIN Mailing List ==== >You can contact the List Manager at: >CFT-WIN-admin@rootsweb.com > > ==== CFT-WIN Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe from CFT-WIN, send an e-mail message to: CFT-WIN-L-request@rootsweb.com (for individual messages) CFT-WIN-D-request@rootsweb.com (for Digest mode) Subject: unsubscribe In the body include only one word: unsubscribe (Turn OFF your signature file when sending this command)

Extract the Birth Events for all records to at CSVfile and then load the file into a spreadsheet or a text editors and then search for the date. The 20th October will be 29/10. Regards, Dave Bennett Birmingham, England www.parloc.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.302 / Virus Database: 265.8.4 - Release Date: 01/02/2005

Hello Jerry ( and Jon ) I have version 3.14 and just tried what what you suggested with a birth date I knew to be in the database and it wasn't picked up. It doesn't seem to me as if the Global Search feature can do what Jon requires. The best I could do was to use it to extract all the births between 2 dates, but even then I could not sort them in date order. I thought of copying and pasting the list into a spreadsheet to sort it there but one is not permitted to select/copy/paste. Malcolm. Norwich. England. -----Original Message----- From: hgd [mailto:hgd@shaw.ca] Sent: 03 February 2005 16:12 To: CFT-WIN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CFTW] Date Search Hello Jon Follow "Tools, Global Search" When this window opens click on the tab "Date Search" Both "Start Date" and "End Date" fields have to be filled in. For a single day both date fields would have the same date. Also a full date must be used e.g. 01 Jan 2005. Jerry Port Coquitlam B.C. Canada web page http://members.shaw.ca/dimsdale DIMSDALE, GEDDES, ECKHOLDT, DOWNER, SINCLAIR, ETHERINGTON, MACK, LAMB ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jon Myers" <emquad@worldnet.att.net> To: <CFT-WIN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2005 7:31 AM Subject: [CFTW] Date Search > Could anyone tell me how to do a date search in version 3? Let's day I > want > to see all birthdays for today's date. In version 2 this was easy--one > could do a search on a specified DATE, e.g., "03 feb," but this does not > appear to be an option in the version 3 search mechanism. > > Thanks, > > Jon Myers > Try the Myers family tree search engine: > http://emquad.home.att.net/ancestry.html > NB. For reasons unknown, some browsers > will reject this address the first time > it is entered but accept it the second. > > > ==== CFT-WIN Mailing List ==== > You can contact the List Manager at: > CFT-WIN-admin@rootsweb.com > > ==== CFT-WIN Mailing List ==== You can contact the List Manager at: CFT-WIN-admin@rootsweb.com

You can also run the report "Birthday/Anniversary List" with the report style "Birthdays Only". This report will give you a list of all birthdays for the entire year in month/day order. Very useful report. -----Original Message----- From: Dave Bennett [mailto:davembennett@blueyonder.co.uk] Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2005 4:44 PM To: CFT-WIN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [CFTW] Re Date Search Extract the Birth Events for all records to at CSVfile and then load the file into a spreadsheet or a text editors and then search for the date. The 20th October will be 29/10. Regards, Dave Bennett Birmingham, England www.parloc.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.302 / Virus Database: 265.8.4 - Release Date: 01/02/2005 ==== CFT-WIN Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe from CFT-WIN, send an e-mail message to: CFT-WIN-L-request@rootsweb.com (for individual messages) CFT-WIN-D-request@rootsweb.com (for Digest mode) Subject: unsubscribe In the body include only one word: unsubscribe (Turn OFF your signature file when sending this command)

That's the problem. I don't want to enter a full date. I want to enter a day-month and have the program return all events which have that day-month, that is, all years. As said, this works easily in v.2. JM At 08:11 AM 2/3/2005 -0800, you wrote: >Hello Jon > >Follow "Tools, Global Search" When this window opens click on the tab "Date >Search" Both "Start Date" and "End Date" fields have to be filled in. For a >single day both date fields would have the same date. Also a full date must >be used e.g. 01 Jan 2005. > > >Jerry >Port Coquitlam >B.C. Canada > >web page http://members.shaw.ca/dimsdale > >DIMSDALE, GEDDES, ECKHOLDT, DOWNER, SINCLAIR, ETHERINGTON, MACK, LAMB > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Jon Myers" <emquad@worldnet.att.net> >To: <CFT-WIN-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2005 7:31 AM >Subject: [CFTW] Date Search > > >> Could anyone tell me how to do a date search in version 3? Let's day I >> want >> to see all birthdays for today's date. In version 2 this was easy--one >> could do a search on a specified DATE, e.g., "03 feb," but this does not >> appear to be an option in the version 3 search mechanism. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Jon Myers >> Try the Myers family tree search engine: >> http://emquad.home.att.net/ancestry.html >> NB. For reasons unknown, some browsers >> will reject this address the first time >> it is entered but accept it the second. >> >> >> ==== CFT-WIN Mailing List ==== >> You can contact the List Manager at: >> CFT-WIN-admin@rootsweb.com >> >> > > > >==== CFT-WIN Mailing List ==== >You can contact the List Manager at: >CFT-WIN-admin@rootsweb.com > >

Could anyone tell me how to do a date search in version 3? Let's day I want to see all birthdays for today's date. In version 2 this was easy--one could do a search on a specified DATE, e.g., "03 feb," but this does not appear to be an option in the version 3 search mechanism. Thanks, Jon Myers Try the Myers family tree search engine: http://emquad.home.att.net/ancestry.html NB. For reasons unknown, some browsers will reject this address the first time it is entered but accept it the second.