I consider one copy of CFT for the family legal - even if you install it on more than one computer. So having a copy on your laptop and on your PC at home is just fine. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------- Mr. Ira J. Lund Cumberland Family Software www.cf-software.com -----Original Message----- From: Roger Nelson [mailto:rog@uk2.net] Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 6:04 PM To: CFT-WIN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [CFTW] CFT with PC & laptop Not sure if it is legal or not but hope Ira does not mind, I have laptop at home and mainframe at work (so work is not too hard) and all I need to do is transfer the database file from one computer to the other after I have altered it. you must not forget the Media file if you alter that as well. It is sometimes tricky remembering which one I altered last, but thats my problem. Just replace the old with the updated file. Yes a memory stick is ideal, you can pick up a 125 meg for ?13.50 now and the price is coming down all the time. Roger -----Original Message----- From: Ira J Lund [mailto:ira.lund@cf-software.com] Sent: 03 March 2005 23:03 To: CFT-WIN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [CFTW] CFT with PC & laptop Since a CFT database is contained in a single file (with extension .cft) - just make sure that whenever you do an update to the database, copy the .cft over to the other machine before editing on the other machine. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------- Mr. Ira J. Lund Cumberland Family Software www.cf-software.com -----Original Message----- From: Sandra Burge [mailto:sandrabur@tesco.net] Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 9:50 AM To: CFT-WIN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [CFTW] CFT with PC & laptop Hi all, Has anyone used a laptop and a PC with CFT on both. How does one keep them in step, does it need a program to organise the updates? I would be grateful for any advice and experiences. Sandra, historian rather than techie! ==== CFT-WIN Mailing List ==== You can contact the List Manager at: CFT-WIN-admin@rootsweb.com ==== CFT-WIN Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe from CFT-WIN, send an e-mail message to: CFT-WIN-L-request@rootsweb.com (for individual messages) CFT-WIN-D-request@rootsweb.com (for Digest mode) Subject: unsubscribe In the body include only one word: unsubscribe (Turn OFF your signature file when sending this command) ==== CFT-WIN Mailing List ==== You can contact the List Manager at: CFT-WIN-admin@rootsweb.com

Not sure if it is legal or not but hope Ira does not mind, I have laptop at home and mainframe at work (so work is not too hard) and all I need to do is transfer the database file from one computer to the other after I have altered it. you must not forget the Media file if you alter that as well. It is sometimes tricky remembering which one I altered last, but thats my problem. Just replace the old with the updated file. Yes a memory stick is ideal, you can pick up a 125 meg for ?13.50 now and the price is coming down all the time. Roger -----Original Message----- From: Ira J Lund [mailto:ira.lund@cf-software.com] Sent: 03 March 2005 23:03 To: CFT-WIN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [CFTW] CFT with PC & laptop Since a CFT database is contained in a single file (with extension .cft) - just make sure that whenever you do an update to the database, copy the .cft over to the other machine before editing on the other machine. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------- Mr. Ira J. Lund Cumberland Family Software www.cf-software.com -----Original Message----- From: Sandra Burge [mailto:sandrabur@tesco.net] Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 9:50 AM To: CFT-WIN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [CFTW] CFT with PC & laptop Hi all, Has anyone used a laptop and a PC with CFT on both. How does one keep them in step, does it need a program to organise the updates? I would be grateful for any advice and experiences. Sandra, historian rather than techie! ==== CFT-WIN Mailing List ==== You can contact the List Manager at: CFT-WIN-admin@rootsweb.com ==== CFT-WIN Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe from CFT-WIN, send an e-mail message to: CFT-WIN-L-request@rootsweb.com (for individual messages) CFT-WIN-D-request@rootsweb.com (for Digest mode) Subject: unsubscribe In the body include only one word: unsubscribe (Turn OFF your signature file when sending this command)

Hi, well it depends on how yoiu have them configured. For instance, I have a laptop on which I have CFTW installed, with the database hosted there. Great for when I am out and about. But when I'm home I prefer to use the larger keyboard and screen of my desktop. Because I have bothe the PC's networked I run a separate CFTW install on the desktop and access the databse on the laptop. Works a treat as long as you don't try to open the database fom both locations simultaneously. Is that of interest? Paul Barrett -----Original Message----- From: Sandra Burge [mailto:sandrabur@tesco.net] Sent: 03 March 2005 15:50 To: CFT-WIN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [CFTW] CFT with PC & laptop Hi all, Has anyone used a laptop and a PC with CFT on both. How does one keep them in step, does it need a program to organise the updates? I would be grateful for any advice and experiences. Sandra, historian rather than techie! ==== CFT-WIN Mailing List ==== You can contact the List Manager at: CFT-WIN-admin@rootsweb.com

Here's a good one I keep CFTW in its entirety on a jump drive and just plug it into a USB port on any computer I am using at the time. Great to just show off the program when discussing genealogy with newbies.

Since a CFT database is contained in a single file (with extension .cft) - just make sure that whenever you do an update to the database, copy the .cft over to the other machine before editing on the other machine. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------- Mr. Ira J. Lund Cumberland Family Software www.cf-software.com -----Original Message----- From: Sandra Burge [mailto:sandrabur@tesco.net] Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 9:50 AM To: CFT-WIN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [CFTW] CFT with PC & laptop Hi all, Has anyone used a laptop and a PC with CFT on both. How does one keep them in step, does it need a program to organise the updates? I would be grateful for any advice and experiences. Sandra, historian rather than techie! ==== CFT-WIN Mailing List ==== You can contact the List Manager at: CFT-WIN-admin@rootsweb.com

Hi all, Has anyone used a laptop and a PC with CFT on both. How does one keep them in step, does it need a program to organise the updates? I would be grateful for any advice and experiences. Sandra, historian rather than techie!

OOPS!!! I forgot to say to transfer the files from you USB digital stick or CD to your laptop! Floyd > -----Original Message----- > From: Sandra Burge [mailto:sandrabur@tesco.net] > Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 8:50 AM > To: CFT-WIN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [CFTW] CFT with PC & laptop > > > Hi all, > Has anyone used a laptop and a PC with CFT on both. How does one keep them > in step, does it need a program to organise the updates? > > I would be grateful for any advice and experiences. > > Sandra, > historian rather than techie! > > > ==== CFT-WIN Mailing List ==== > You can contact the List Manager at: > CFT-WIN-admin@rootsweb.com > >

Hi George Disconnect them from the wrong parents and then reconnect them to the correct parents. Ian Westergaard In Cloudy & Mild Central Otago New Zealand ----- Original Message ----- From: "George W. Durman" <GeorgeWDurman@comcast.net> To: <CFT-WIN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 7:20 PM Subject: Re: re [CFTW] Version vs-3a > > Tim, Can you tell me how to start a new generation? I have children from > gen.3 mixed with children from gen.2. I thought I had it fixed but they > still show up the same. Thanks. MML > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Churchill" <tchurchill@omne.uk.net> > To: <CFT-WIN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 11:53 AM > Subject: re [CFTW] Version vs-3a > > > > >You say: > ><I have Cumberland Family Tree from Aug 2002 & have not been able to > >get the birth & death dates with them. I have names & IRN numbers > >only.> > > > >The current version of CFT is 3.14. In that as all of version 3, as > >far as I can remember you open the database, navigate to the person > >you want to add the details to, double click (L) on the person and a > >window opens with that persons details. Click on the add button at > >the top of the window and select the appropriate event from the drop- > >down list. > > > >Or are you saying that this does not work for you? > > > >Best wishes, > > > >Tim Churchill > > > > > > > >-- > >No virus found in this outgoing message. > >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > >Version: 7.0.306 / Virus Database: 265.8.9 - Release Date: 17/02/2005 > > > > > >==== CFT-WIN Mailing List ==== > >To unsubscribe from CFT-WIN, send an e-mail message to: > > CFT-WIN-L-request@rootsweb.com (for individual messages) > > CFT-WIN-D-request@rootsweb.com (for Digest mode) > >Subject: unsubscribe > >In the body include only one word: unsubscribe > >(Turn OFF your signature file when sending this command) > > > > > > ==== CFT-WIN Mailing List ==== > You can contact the List Manager at: > CFT-WIN-admin@rootsweb.com > >

Now, friends of CFTW, are you all trying to confuse me? There have been duplicated blank messages and a plethora of replies and forwards that have never-changing or irrelevant Subject lines, such as this one which I didn't change either, just for example. Or has someone stolen the Ol' Sarge's identity? heh heh heh heh Floyd > -----Original Message----- > From: George W. Durman [mailto:GeorgeWDurman@comcast.net] > Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 11:20 PM > To: CFT-WIN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: re [CFTW] Version vs-3a > > > > Tim, Can you tell me how to start a new generation? I have > children from > gen.3 mixed with children from gen.2. I thought I had it fixed but they > still show up the same. Thanks. MML > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Churchill" > <tchurchill@omne.uk.net> > To: <CFT-WIN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 11:53 AM > Subject: re [CFTW] Version vs-3a > > > > >You say: > ><I have Cumberland Family Tree from Aug 2002 & have not been able to > >get the birth & death dates with them. I have names & IRN numbers > >only.> > > > >The current version of CFT is 3.14. In that as all of version 3, as > >far as I can remember you open the database, navigate to the person > >you want to add the details to, double click (L) on the person and a > >window opens with that persons details. Click on the add button at > >the top of the window and select the appropriate event from the drop- > >down list. > > > >Or are you saying that this does not work for you? > > > >Best wishes, > > > >Tim Churchill > > > > > > > >-- > >No virus found in this outgoing message. > >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > >Version: 7.0.306 / Virus Database: 265.8.9 - Release Date: 17/02/2005 > > > > > >==== CFT-WIN Mailing List ==== > >To unsubscribe from CFT-WIN, send an e-mail message to: > > CFT-WIN-L-request@rootsweb.com (for individual messages) > > CFT-WIN-D-request@rootsweb.com (for Digest mode) > >Subject: unsubscribe > >In the body include only one word: unsubscribe > >(Turn OFF your signature file when sending this command) > > > > > > ==== CFT-WIN Mailing List ==== > You can contact the List Manager at: > CFT-WIN-admin@rootsweb.com > >

Tim, Can you tell me how to start a new generation? I have children from gen.3 mixed with children from gen.2. I thought I had it fixed but they still show up the same. Thanks. MML ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Churchill" <tchurchill@omne.uk.net> To: <CFT-WIN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 11:53 AM Subject: re [CFTW] Version vs-3a >You say: ><I have Cumberland Family Tree from Aug 2002 & have not been able to >get the birth & death dates with them. I have names & IRN numbers >only.> > >The current version of CFT is 3.14. In that as all of version 3, as >far as I can remember you open the database, navigate to the person >you want to add the details to, double click (L) on the person and a >window opens with that persons details. Click on the add button at >the top of the window and select the appropriate event from the drop- >down list. > >Or are you saying that this does not work for you? > >Best wishes, > >Tim Churchill > > > >-- >No virus found in this outgoing message. >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >Version: 7.0.306 / Virus Database: 265.8.9 - Release Date: 17/02/2005 > > >==== CFT-WIN Mailing List ==== >To unsubscribe from CFT-WIN, send an e-mail message to: > CFT-WIN-L-request@rootsweb.com (for individual messages) > CFT-WIN-D-request@rootsweb.com (for Digest mode) >Subject: unsubscribe >In the body include only one word: unsubscribe >(Turn OFF your signature file when sending this command)

I have had exactly the same problem, i.e. I lost all the dates when I tried to read the data file on a new PC. Ira kindly offered to sort the problem if I sent him the file. I did and he sent it back sorted. Except that my machine still wouldn't read the dates - though it had notes and sources still intact. I didn't like to bother Ira again so I re-entered the direct line dates and all seems well with re-entered data. A relative who understands PCs better than I do said he has looked inside the data file and found the dates still there. He was unable to explain why CFT wouldn't read them. I look forward to seeing replies to your query. Steve Please reply to sbwhiteley@iee.org

You say: <I have Cumberland Family Tree from Aug 2002 & have not been able to get the birth & death dates with them. I have names & IRN numbers only.> The current version of CFT is 3.14. In that as all of version 3, as far as I can remember you open the database, navigate to the person you want to add the details to, double click (L) on the person and a window opens with that persons details. Click on the add button at the top of the window and select the appropriate event from the drop- down list. Or are you saying that this does not work for you? Best wishes, Tim Churchill -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.306 / Virus Database: 265.8.9 - Release Date: 17/02/2005

I have Cumberland Family Tree from Aug 2002 & have not been able to get the birth & death dates with them. I have names & IRN numbers only. I've tried several things & now have everything messed up, all out of order.One of my co-workers have Family Tree Maker & says that is real simple. I hate to spend more money when I already have this one. Would appreciate any help. Thanks

Hi Jerry I seem to remember having this problem myself and it was caused by the "CHAR" tag having the wrong value. I know "ANSEL" works so try editing your GEDCOM file in a text editor and change the "CHAR" tag to "ANSEL". Ian Westergaard In Cloudy & Mild Central Otago New Zealand ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Longstrom" <jelaz@cox.net> To: <CFT-WIN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 9:58 AM Subject: Re: [CFTW] gedcoms > I uninstalled and downloaded another cumberland. > > I made a gedcom from family tree maker & from Legacy. (saving on my hard > drive) > I saved them as different names, and none of them will work. This is really > strange to me. > > Does anyone know if the 45 day trial does not include gedcoms? > The web site says it does. > > Thanks, > Jerry Longstrom > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tim Churchill" <tchurchill@omne.uk.net> > To: <CFT-WIN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 12:21 PM > Subject: Re: [CFTW] gedcoms > > > > Well you have 3 options; your download was faulty/corrupt, your > > gedcom IS corrupt, or there is something non-standard in the gedcom > > that CFT doesn't recognise. Personally I have had no trouble with CFT > > and gedcom import/exports. Perhaps someone else on the List has > > further ideas? > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Tim Churchill > > > > On 15 Feb 2005 at 11:12, Jerry Longstrom wrote: > > > >> Greetings, > >> > >> I have just downloaded the 45 day free trial 3.14 version of > >> Cumberland. It seems to do what I would like a program to do for me, > >> but I when I try to import a gedcom it tells me the file is corrupt. I > >> have imported this file to other programs I know have and they work. > >> > >> I thought the free trial would use gedcoms, am I wrong? > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Jerry Longstrom > >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >> > >> > >> ==== CFT-WIN Mailing List ==== > >> To unsubscribe from CFT-WIN, send an e-mail message to: > >> CFT-WIN-L-request@rootsweb.com (for individual messages) > >> CFT-WIN-D-request@rootsweb.com (for Digest mode) > >> Subject: unsubscribe > >> In the body include only one word: unsubscribe > >> (Turn OFF your signature file when sending this command) > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> No virus found in this incoming message. > >> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > >> Version: 7.0.306 / Virus Database: 265.8.7 - Release Date: 10/02/2005 > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > > Version: 7.0.306 / Virus Database: 265.8.7 - Release Date: 10/02/2005 > > > > > > ==== CFT-WIN Mailing List ==== > > To unsubscribe from CFT-WIN, send an e-mail message to: > > CFT-WIN-L-request@rootsweb.com (for individual messages) > > CFT-WIN-D-request@rootsweb.com (for Digest mode) > > Subject: unsubscribe > > In the body include only one word: unsubscribe > > (Turn OFF your signature file when sending this command) > > > > > > > ==== CFT-WIN Mailing List ==== > You can contact the List Manager at: > CFT-WIN-admin@rootsweb.com > >

Tue, 15 Feb 2005 13:58:31 -0700, Jerry Longstrom : >I made a gedcom from family tree maker & from Legacy. (saving on my hard >drive) >I saved them as different names, and none of them will work. This is really >strange to me. If you tell us step by step what you do, we might be able to help you. Regards Sigurd Eliassen

I suspect this may be a problem with the GEDCOM file. Can you load a GEDCOM file from Family Tree Maker in to Legacy and Vice Versa? You may find that one of those fails too, in which case it's probably related to the file format -----Original Message----- From: Sigurd Eliassen [mailto:sigurde@spjelkavik.vgs.no] Sent: 15 February 2005 21:23 To: CFT-WIN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CFTW] gedcoms Tue, 15 Feb 2005 13:58:31 -0700, Jerry Longstrom : >I made a gedcom from family tree maker & from Legacy. (saving on my hard >drive) >I saved them as different names, and none of them will work. This is really >strange to me. If you tell us step by step what you do, we might be able to help you. Regards Sigurd Eliassen ==== CFT-WIN Mailing List ==== You can contact the List Manager at: CFT-WIN-admin@rootsweb.com

Hello, Your gedcom file might be write protected, fx. a file on a CD. Change the file properties. Regards Steen Torben Jensen -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: Jerry Longstrom [mailto:jelaz@cox.net] Sendt: 15. februar 2005 19:13 Til: CFT-WIN-L@rootsweb.com Emne: [CFTW] gedcoms Greetings, I have just downloaded the 45 day free trial 3.14 version of Cumberland. It seems to do what I would like a program to do for me, but I when I try to import a gedcom it tells me the file is corrupt. I have imported this file to other programs I know have and they work. I thought the free trial would use gedcoms, am I wrong? Thanks, Jerry Longstrom ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ==== CFT-WIN Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe from CFT-WIN, send an e-mail message to: CFT-WIN-L-request@rootsweb.com (for individual messages) CFT-WIN-D-request@rootsweb.com (for Digest mode) Subject: unsubscribe In the body include only one word: unsubscribe (Turn OFF your signature file when sending this command)

Jerry Best thing for you to do is as Ira suggested- send him the Gedcom and find out what the problem is. Floyd > -----Original Message----- > From: Jerry Longstrom [mailto:jelaz@cox.net] > Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 6:01 PM > To: CFT-WIN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [CFTW] gedcoms [SNIP]

Well you have 3 options; your download was faulty/corrupt, your gedcom IS corrupt, or there is something non-standard in the gedcom that CFT doesn't recognise. Personally I have had no trouble with CFT and gedcom import/exports. Perhaps someone else on the List has further ideas? Best wishes, Tim Churchill On 15 Feb 2005 at 11:12, Jerry Longstrom wrote: > Greetings, > > I have just downloaded the 45 day free trial 3.14 version of > Cumberland. It seems to do what I would like a program to do for me, > but I when I try to import a gedcom it tells me the file is corrupt. I > have imported this file to other programs I know have and they work. > > I thought the free trial would use gedcoms, am I wrong? > > Thanks, > Jerry Longstrom > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > ==== CFT-WIN Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from CFT-WIN, send an e-mail message to: > CFT-WIN-L-request@rootsweb.com (for individual messages) > CFT-WIN-D-request@rootsweb.com (for Digest mode) > Subject: unsubscribe > In the body include only one word: unsubscribe > (Turn OFF your signature file when sending this command) > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.306 / Virus Database: 265.8.7 - Release Date: 10/02/2005 > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.306 / Virus Database: 265.8.7 - Release Date: 10/02/2005

Sorry, I sent this back to one person instead of the list. Here is what I sent. ------------------------------------------------------ This is becoming a real deal........! I have made gedcoms from family tree maker & Legacy. I can open them in the opposite programs and they import also into PAF and work. I have saved them all ways you can, ansi, ansel, gedcom 5.5 etc, they all work in family tree maker, legacy, and PAF, but are considered corrupt in Cumberland. I downloaded the free 45 day trial from the Cumberland web site, I do not need to download any other files do I?? (I did this twice) Any suggestions after this? Thanks, Jerry Longstrom