Good! Glad to hear this. Thanks, Ira At 10:35 PM 2/25/98 +0100, you wrote: >At 20.56 24-02-98 +0100, René Hasekamp wrote >>EUREKA!!!!!!! >>Thanks a lot Karen. This was IT!! >>The fourth time version 2.29x installed without problems. >>And Ira, >>A Thousand apologies for bothering you several times with installation >>problems. > >Thanks to René for his honest letter. > >I have installed version 2.29x in Windows 95 and 2.29 in Windows 3.1 >without any problems. It just works fine. >I have even installed both programs 2.29 and 2.29x on the same PC >with Windows 95, it all worked OK. > >I have the feeling that those Users who have had problems, >may have got their very Windows installation messed up a little. > >Erik > ---------------------------------------------------------- Ira J. Lund Cumberland Family Software, Clarksville, Tennessee, USA Genealogy Software for Beginners and Professionals E-mail: ira.lund@cf-software.com http://www.cf-software.com

>Generally you can't just delete a program without files being left >mainly in Windows directories. I also found that cftw shares use of >another program in the Windows directory than the hidden fonts directory. >(Don't recall name now) CFT-Win does not use any other than normal Window DLLs, etc. It only installs the FOUR LUND fonts to c:\windows\fonts. Otherwise everything else is in c:\cftw. ---------------------------------------------------------- Ira J. Lund Cumberland Family Software, Clarksville, Tennessee, USA Genealogy Software for Beginners and Professionals E-mail: ira.lund@cf-software.com http://www.cf-software.com

Every four years is a leap year: except every century year is not: except every 400 yeas is a leap year. Thus 1900 was not a leap year, but 2000 is (divisible by 400) At 06:33 PM 2/25/98 +0000, you wrote: >According to my astronomy text even centuries are not leap years. Do you >have some information that this has been changed for 2000? ---------------------------------------------------------- Ira J. Lund Cumberland Family Software, Clarksville, Tennessee, USA Genealogy Software for Beginners and Professionals E-mail: ira.lund@cf-software.com http://www.cf-software.com

Joseph Cain wrote: > > On Tue, 24 Feb 1998, Ira J. Lund wrote: > Failure of the backup files is scary. It is also interesting that both > failures involved the same file. It is unlikely that this would be a > common problem with my hard drive since it occured twice at different > times months apart. > I had the same experience, renaming/deleting the old file did not solve it, only first time. then I changed the filename in ptions/database/ setting same result. IRA how to resolve this. ??

At 20.56 24-02-98 +0100, René Hasekamp wrote >EUREKA!!!!!!! >Thanks a lot Karen. This was IT!! >The fourth time version 2.29x installed without problems. >And Ira, >A Thousand apologies for bothering you several times with installation >problems. Thanks to René for his honest letter. I have installed version 2.29x in Windows 95 and 2.29 in Windows 3.1 without any problems. It just works fine. I have even installed both programs 2.29 and 2.29x on the same PC with Windows 95, it all worked OK. I have the feeling that those Users who have had problems, may have got their very Windows installation messed up a little. Erik

I installed v2.29 on top of v2.28 and had no problems. I then checked my user-defined events. Although the setup program indicated that they had loaded they did not appear. I then ran Rebuild Key Files from the Tools Menu, which restored all of the custom events. Perhaps this will be of help to others. STEVEN J. FROME Glen Cove, NY E-Mail: sfrome@juno. com or sfrome@aol.com Home Page: http://members.aol.com/sfrome/index.html _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

There was a recent posting suggesting that the problem I was having in the install of version 2.29 was the prior removal of the earlier version (whether by Cleansweep or the cft supplied uninstall program). To test this I already had 2.27 working again as per an earlier post except for its inability to be able to restore older zipped backup files. (These could be read with no problem when unzipped by another means to the cftw directory). I then installed 2.29 on top of 2.27 to see if there was any difference. The result was nearly the same. That is, when it first presented the icon for family tree it was unable to bring up the program, but had to look for it even though the Properties/shortcut directed it correctly to the cftw32.exe file. This was again repaired by looking for the icon, which when found solved that problem. However, on each load the screen would flash "Fonts were copies to fonts directory, press ok to continue," followed by another screen that had the caption: "LUNDS FONTS Installation warning" which read: "The set of Lunds fonts did not install properly...etc" after which the program loaded fine. I also tested whether it would reload the older databases. This time it did reload all but two. Both of the backups were flawed in that they would not unzip using Norton's unzip program. The file that would not unzip was individ.tps, whose length was 84,480 long on both. The one that cftw unzipped except for this file was written 2/22/98 during the time I was testing version 2.29. (I had not intended to replace any of the old files so this was an error in so doing). The other failure was a database that was backed up 10/5/97 with whatever version was in use at that time. In this instance the file appeared in the directory was only 768 bytes long after the cftw restore. Has anyone else had such failures of the backups to reload? I have not had problems with unzipping such files except in instances where they were written to defective floppies. These were both written to my other hard drive.

I, too, think 2.29 is great. The GED export and import was of utmost importance to me since I had to give a GED file to people not using CFTW (poor people!) Nevertheless, the GED now exports and imports without turning people DEAD to/from at least 3 other genealogy programs (so I've been told). Ira: take some time off: you deserve it!! Thanks so much Karen Pastuzyn

Easy enough to check. Just go and look. Feb 2000 has 29 days. Problem is now that I went and looked the weekdays are one day off in Jan and Feb 2000. UCC works fine though. Ira At 11:03 PM 2/24/98 +0100, you wrote: >Part of the "year 2000 problem" is that some programmers believed year 2000 not to be a leap year. But it is one. So in some programs, calendar calculations may be wrong. CFT? - I don't know. >Jens, Holte, Denmark. > >>So I don't see why the so-called "Year 2000 Problem" should ever be a >>concern for genealogists. >> >>Ira > ---------------------------------------------------------- Ira J. Lund Cumberland Family Software, Clarksville, Tennessee, USA Genealogy Software for Beginners and Professionals E-mail: ira.lund@cf-software.com http://www.cf-software.com

Good! Seems to be about as many people with successful upgrades (at least posting messages here) as those with difficulties. Ira At 01:45 PM 2/24/98 -0700, you wrote: >I have been installing CFTW upgrades over the top of one another since the >original version 1. I have never had a problem. Did not have a problem >with 2.29X either. It installed and runs great. I have never tried >uninstalling the old version first. Maybe thats the trouble. > >Carol Miller >-----Original Message----- >From: J.E. Myers <emquad@worldnet.att.net> >To: CFT-WIN-L@rootsweb.com <CFT-WIN-L@rootsweb.com> >Date: Tuesday, February 24, 1998 1:50 AM >Subject: V.2.29x > >>No problems loading or running 2.29x; it sits on my desktop together with >>2.25x; can even run both at once. J. >> >> ______________________________ >> | | >> | EMQUAD International, Ltd. | >> | P.O. Box 60 | >> | Great Neck, NY 11022 | >> | - | >> | emquad@worldnet.att.net | >> | http://home.att.net/~emquad | >> | - | >> | Consulting Division | >> | Publishing Division | >> |______________________________| ---------------------------------------------------------- Ira J. Lund Cumberland Family Software, Clarksville, Tennessee, USA Genealogy Software for Beginners and Professionals E-mail: ira.lund@cf-software.com http://www.cf-software.com

This may be the best couse with allt he troubles you have had. I have some other users who are also trying to help me track this down. Ira >(I plan to stick to 2.27 until something about it pains me or I hear an >Eureka from the skunkworks and a new version or two with good reports from >all.) > ---------------------------------------------------------- Ira J. Lund Cumberland Family Software, Clarksville, Tennessee, USA Genealogy Software for Beginners and Professionals E-mail: ira.lund@cf-software.com http://www.cf-software.com

Wow!!... Ever since Ver 2.00 the Backup utility (OCX) has been the same and any ZIP file created with any version since then should be able to be read by any version since then. And these ZIP files are supposed to be compatible with WinZip and PKZIP, so you could test with those programs. From some reports from users it is acting like some backups are creating BAD ZIP files that have no data. But I think that others say that their backup works fine. I shall look at this next go around again. This cleansweep stuff doesn't sound very "clean" to me. I think it would be better to use CFT-Win uninstall or simply explorer to remove CFTwin files. CFT-Win ONLY installs files into c:\cftw and c:\cftw\sample plus the 4 fonts to c:\windows\fonts. That ought to be easy enough to clean out in explorer. It just sounds like Cleansweep is missing things in the explanation you gave. Ira At 10:49 PM 2/23/98 -0500, you wrote: >Having given up on version 2.29 for now, especially since it did not seem >to reload the old partial databases used to make my new combined one, I >removed 2.29 using the new unistall icon and attempted to reload 2.27 from >the Cleansweep backup. I noted that there were several files on the Windows >directory it would not reload since they were already there, presumably not >being removed by the uninstall. These included the 4 Lunds fonts. >2.27 ran fine with the now combined database. There were no error messages >about fonts as with 2.29. Also, so far there are no 160 errors on backing >up the database. > ---------------------------------------------------------- Ira J. Lund Cumberland Family Software, Clarksville, Tennessee, USA Genealogy Software for Beginners and Professionals E-mail: ira.lund@cf-software.com http://www.cf-software.com

thank you george (cuz). You guys are great. I sent him an e-mail too

STOP HORNING IN ON OUR MAILING LIST WE DON'T APPRECIATE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

At 12:50 AM 2/24/98 -0800, you wrote: >Yes, I run 226x and 229x parallel. Still I have the problem to adjust my >custom-events to the new versions. Ira, how about implementing a >custom-event file that can stay the same with new versions? Do you know >what I'm talking about? Yes, normally you can do that. Ver 2.29 is a special case in that I added a new Menu item (Edit Menu - Fix Gender) and thus had to change the LANGUAGE.TPS file. Also there has had to be a way to update the STDEVE.TPS file for any user added events - to preserve them. Simply using your old file would have worked, though - but it would not have gotten any new fixes that I made. Normally this is not a problem with most people. Ira ---------------------------------------------------------- Ira J. Lund Cumberland Family Software, Clarksville, Tennessee, USA Genealogy Software for Beginners and Professionals E-mail: ira.lund@cf-software.com http://www.cf-software.com

Go'da' alle (the Danish (original?) version!) I have also seen that one - in 2.27x, I believe, and cannot explain. I can find more details if wanted. Kind regards Jens, Holte, Denmark G'day All I have a female who marries three times. In the main screen I have placed the marriages in the following order: MARDUEL - 1898 (First husband FRN-000062) COTTERILL - 1921 (Second husband FRN-000257) THOMPSON - 1940 (Third husband FRN-000258) When I print an INDIVIDUAL STORY of the lady's FATHER the details under her name are in the order COTTERILL THOMPSON MARDUEL This is not alphabetical by surname, it isn't chronological (my expectation), it is not the order listed in her record and it isn't in the order of the FRN (an outside possibility)

Part of the "year 2000 problem" is that some programmers believed year 2000 not to be a leap year. But it is one. So in some programs, calendar calculations may be wrong. CFT? - I don't know. Jens, Holte, Denmark. >So I don't see why the so-called "Year 2000 Problem" should ever be a >concern for genealogists. > >Ira

I have been installing CFTW upgrades over the top of one another since the original version 1. I have never had a problem. Did not have a problem with 2.29X either. It installed and runs great. I have never tried uninstalling the old version first. Maybe thats the trouble. Carol Miller -----Original Message----- From: J.E. Myers <emquad@worldnet.att.net> To: CFT-WIN-L@rootsweb.com <CFT-WIN-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, February 24, 1998 1:50 AM Subject: V.2.29x >No problems loading or running 2.29x; it sits on my desktop together with >2.25x; can even run both at once. J. > > ______________________________ > | | > | EMQUAD International, Ltd. | > | P.O. Box 60 | > | Great Neck, NY 11022 | > | - | > | emquad@worldnet.att.net | > | http://home.att.net/~emquad | > | - | > | Consulting Division | > | Publishing Division | > |______________________________| > >

EUREKA!!!!!!! Thanks a lot Karen. This was IT!! The fourth time version 2.29x installed without problems. And Ira, A Thousand apologies for bothering you several times wity installation problems. This was the first (and hopefully the last) time installation went so cumbersome. But now I can try out version 2.29x at last. Regards, Ren Hasekamp ---------- > Van: karen.paz <karen.paz@internetMCI.com> > Aan: r.hasekamp@bigfoot.com > Onderwerp: Re: Upgrade Instructions > Datum: dinsdag 24 februari 1998 20:10 > > you wrote: > > After starting up version 2.29 I replaced the two files (language and > > Stdevents) by my old ones, in order to get my custom events back. > > Rene: > > the key is that you have to copy in the language and stdevents file BEFORE > running version 2.29 the first time, not AFTER. Ira has said that he > changed something in version 2.29 in these files so it's crutial to do the > copy BEFORE running the first time. You can deinstall and re-install again > without hurting your data. > Hope this helps. > Karen P. >

Ira and all, I still have problems with version 2.29x. After starting up version 2.29 I replaced the two files (language and Stdevents) by my old ones, in order to get my custom events back. As far as I am aware I followed the "upgrade instrutions" by Karen step by step, but when the program is starting I get the message "ERROR Language file missing. OR Second instance of program not allowed. Program should be terminated" I then have the choice to "ABORT" or "IGNORE". When I "abort" the program ends, so that doesn't help me very much. When I "ignore", however, the program starts up fuerther with my database and I can see my custom events, so it looks all right. But I dare not to chane anything, afraid as I am to corrupt my database. When I close the program and start up again I get the same screen! What can this be and how can I start working with version 2.29x at last?! It looks as if I have to go back to version 2.27x. Until then everything worked without error messages. Regards, Ren Hasekamp