Ira and all Some strange event happened to me when upgrading to 2.30x. Prehistoric: I have used Event REFN very much adding a number into the Misc data field. The No could look like this: 2F3A4C 5A6A. No other data was set in the General part of the event. On the source I've marked up a general source which I often quote. Sometime I also write a note. Now: Having installed 2.30x without troubles I started with a Rebuild Keyfields , UPPER PART check for all except Standard Events; LOWER PART check in Autosort dates and Correct Living flags 100 as my first task and now the task completely stopped by individual 453 - I could see a No like the abovementioned and the sec. part of the xxxx:453. So I had to shut down CFT ! Start CFT again and load the db and go to indv. 453. Looking at this person I could see that the NUMBER of the REFN - originated into the Misc now was placed into the DATE field! - which must have stopped the rebuild routine. After having corrected 15 of this kind I got through the problems. A comment: the fault was in a range from 453 to about 500 (Ind.no) and loaded into the db long time ago, probably in 2.26x. Later I installed 2.27x and continued entering data to the db. I also installed 2.29x but did not use it for entering data - just for looking and checking. I always end a version ie 2.26x with a Rebuild Keyfields and a report and I always start a new version with the very same routine. Have you any idea what could have caused this? Rgds Rolf

G'day Ira, There are times when I close the database that I DO NOT wish to overwrite (backup?) the last backup when the automatic backup occurs ( I do have automatic backup selected in the Database Configuration). I select "NO" in the "Overwrite?" dialogue box and ASSUME that this means that no back up has been made. Explorer would appear to confirm this. I do recall doing some similar operation (which I can no longer duplicate) when, after selecting the "NO" option I was presented with a dialogue that said that the "operation" had NOT been carried out. Could we please have a confirmation in future that when we select not to overwrite that a backup is not made and thus that our previous backup will not contain any errors we may have introduced in out last use of the database? BTW - As I understand it, every time I close my database (even by clicking the top right "X") I save a "new" version that is opened next time I access that database. Is this so? (Again according to my check with Explorer just then the answer is yes). I have just re-read what I have written and realise that what I want to be able to do is NOT to save the last evolution of the database into which I may have made changes that I then decide I do not want. This could happen if I have to close the database in a hurry and have not had time to go back and undo prior mistakes. Sorry to be so long-winded about it :-( HURU Mike

>>>Oh well, It's not the first stupid thing I have done in my life. >>> >>>Ira >> >>Is it always that when you do a stupid thing, it works for the benefit of >>other mortals? > >Is this one in Murphy's Law somewhere? > >Ira I was thinking more in terms of "Ira's law of benevolent occasional stupidity". And you are allowed the option of "Ira's law of occasional benevolent stupidity". \*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/ Yair Sachs The Hebrew University of Jerusalem Computation Center, Communication group sachs@cc.huji.ac.il Tel: office 972-2 - 6584484 fax " 6527349 home " 6438948 mobile 052 - 608073 /*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\

Yes - and thanks heaven, now we know his family hasn't died out. Also thanks to Ira for V. 2.30 - its working just fine for me so far. You do a fantastic job. Jens Brammer, Holte, Danmark -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: Jack Bowman <jack@bluenet.net> Til: CFT-WIN-L@rootsweb.com <CFT-WIN-L@rootsweb.com> Dato: 20. maj 1998 21:30 Emne: Re: 2.30 and user code. >Please note: Murphy was an optimist. >-----Original Message----- >From: Bulls0729 <Bulls0729@aol.com> >To: CFT-WIN-L@rootsweb.com <CFT-WIN-L@rootsweb.com> >Date: Wednesday, May 20, 1998 3:16 PM >Subject: Re: 2.30 and user code. > >>>In a message dated 98-05-20 09:18:35 EDT, you write: >>><< Is this one in Murphy's Law somewhere? Ira >> >> >>>If it's not, it shoud be!! >> >>Regards, >>Cathy Murphy

Please note: Murphy was an optimist. -----Original Message----- From: Bulls0729 <Bulls0729@aol.com> To: CFT-WIN-L@rootsweb.com <CFT-WIN-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Wednesday, May 20, 1998 3:16 PM Subject: Re: 2.30 and user code. >In a message dated 98-05-20 09:18:35 EDT, you write: >><< Is this one in Murphy's Law somewhere? Ira >> > > >If it's not, it shoud be!! > >Regards, >Cathy Murphy > > >==== CFT-WIN Mailing List ==== >To unsubscribe from CFT-WIN, send an e-mail message to: > CFT-WIN-L-request@rootsweb.com (for individual messages) > CFT-WIN-D-request@rootsweb.com (for Digest mode) >Subject: unsubscribe >In the body include only one word: unsubscribe >(Turn OFF your signature file when sending this command) > > >

>Oh well, It's not the first stupid thing I have done in my life. > > >Ira Is it always that when you do a stupid thing, it works for the benefit of other mortals? \*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/ Yair Sachs The Hebrew University of Jerusalem Computation Center, Communication group sachs@cc.huji.ac.il Tel: office 972-2 - 6584484 fax " 6527349 home " 6438948 mobile 052 - 608073 /*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\

In a message dated 98-05-20 09:18:35 EDT, you write: << Is this one in Murphy's Law somewhere? Ira >> If it's not, it shoud be!! Regards, Cathy Murphy

>>Oh well, It's not the first stupid thing I have done in my life. >> >>Ira > >Is it always that when you do a stupid thing, it works for the benefit of >other mortals? Is this one in Murphy's Law somewhere? Ira ---------------------------------------------------------- Ira J. Lund Cumberland Family Software, Clarksville, Tennessee, USA Genealogy Software for Beginners and Professionals E-mail: ira.lund@cf-software.com http://www.cf-software.com

Ira Don't feel bad as it didn't dawn on me what they were and I deleted them. There well be better days....... Bonnie _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

>I meant the version # for the CFT Windows program was 1.1, I guess >that was an old 16 bit version. It seems to have installed a seperate >program? I've got two start up commands. One for the 16 bit and one >for the 32 bit. I put them both in the cftw directory. How can I get >the old one uninstalled while leaving the 32 bit version? I'd get rid of the old Ver 1 program. Simply use explorer and delete it's directory and all sub-directories. Then use the Start Menu options (in Settings) to remove the program from the Start Menu. But be sure all your data is over in the new Ver 2 before you do this. Ira ---------------------------------------------------------- Ira J. Lund Cumberland Family Software, Clarksville, Tennessee, USA Genealogy Software for Beginners and Professionals E-mail: ira.lund@cf-software.com http://www.cf-software.com

>Here are the only codes that will work. Here I went and did the same stupid thing that I don't like to see my users do: Post the user codes on the Mailing List. When I did a reply I never noticed that I was replying to the list. I guess I asimply assumed no one would ask for a user code on the List. Oh well, It's not the first stupid thing I have done in my life. (Anyone who is not a registered user of CFT-Win is supposed to ignore those prior messages. I count on your honesty.) Ira ---------------------------------------------------------- Ira J. Lund Cumberland Family Software, Clarksville, Tennessee, USA Genealogy Software for Beginners and Professionals E-mail: ira.lund@cf-software.com http://www.cf-software.com

On Mon, 18 May 1998 07:38:17 -0500, "Ira J. Lund" <ira.lund@cf-software.com> wrote: >At 08:07 AM 5/17/98 +0000, you wrote: >>Ira- I have a registered copy of CFT for Windows 1.1, I just >>downloaded and installed 2.30 but it gives me an invalid user code. >>What did I do wrong? Is there more cost to me? > >I assume you mean Windows 3.1. > > CFT-Win : BRCFTW-45879822 > CFT-Win95: CFTWNF-19531636 > >Here are the only codes that will work. > >Ira I meant the version # for the CFT Windows program was 1.1, I guess that was an old 16 bit version. It seems to have installed a seperate program? I've got two start up commands. One for the 16 bit and one for the 32 bit. I put them both in the cftw directory. How can I get the old one uninstalled while leaving the 32 bit version? Mr.T (Tracy Schell) from The Sunshine State. Visit my Homepage at: http://bbs.mpcs.com/~tschell Also visit my churches webpage at: http://www.geocities.com/~ncccfl My Sports Card Page: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Acres/4995

Yes, I have already received e-mails on both items and suspect I have introduced two new bugs. Will work on them next version. Thanks, Ira At 03:50 PM 5/18/98 +1000, you wrote: > >G'day Ira, > >Downloaded and installed 2.30x (32 bit) without any trouble directly over >the top of 2.27 (I held off on 2.29 because there seemed to be a few >glitches). Unfortunately there could be a few "new" ones in 2.30. > >I seem to have been a little hasty in deleting your announcement of the >changes made in 2.30 so am unable to give you the relevant "quotes" > >1. Regarding the addition of events and the "Add xxxxxx [XXXX] event...." >dialog screen. When ever I add a new event (either insert or add) I get >[BURI] instead of the relevant [XXXX]. No real problem as when one goes to >look at or edit it later it shows the correct [XXXX]. Just thought you >should know - or am I doing something wrong? > >2. I know my 2.27 database was 100% correct according to Database >Verification before the upgrade but since then I was told that I had about >25 people with "The order of events out of sequence" > >I did a Rebuild Key Files with "Auto Sort events" checked and the original >list was reduced to 15. > >It would appear to be caused by persons with no known date of birth having a >single (???) other event WITH a date. I have managed to "eliminate" some of >the 15 by giving them a birth date. Never the less there is one who has both >a birth date and a date for military service but no marriage date that is >still listed. His wife (no dates of any sort) is not listed. > >Any thoughts on the matter? > >HURU Mike > ---------------------------------------------------------- Ira J. Lund Cumberland Family Software, Clarksville, Tennessee, USA Genealogy Software for Beginners and Professionals E-mail: ira.lund@cf-software.com http://www.cf-software.com

At 08:07 AM 5/17/98 +0000, you wrote: >Ira- I have a registered copy of CFT for Windows 1.1, I just >downloaded and installed 2.30 but it gives me an invalid user code. >What did I do wrong? Is there more cost to me? I assume you mean Windows 3.1. CFT-Win : BRCFTW-45879822 CFT-Win95: CFTWNF-19531636 Here are the only codes that will work. Ira ---------------------------------------------------------- Ira J. Lund Cumberland Family Software, Clarksville, Tennessee, USA Genealogy Software for Beginners and Professionals E-mail: ira.lund@cf-software.com http://www.cf-software.com

G'day Ira, Downloaded and installed 2.30x (32 bit) without any trouble directly over the top of 2.27 (I held off on 2.29 because there seemed to be a few glitches). Unfortunately there could be a few "new" ones in 2.30. I seem to have been a little hasty in deleting your announcement of the changes made in 2.30 so am unable to give you the relevant "quotes" 1. Regarding the addition of events and the "Add xxxxxx [XXXX] event...." dialog screen. When ever I add a new event (either insert or add) I get [BURI] instead of the relevant [XXXX]. No real problem as when one goes to look at or edit it later it shows the correct [XXXX]. Just thought you should know - or am I doing something wrong? 2. I know my 2.27 database was 100% correct according to Database Verification before the upgrade but since then I was told that I had about 25 people with "The order of events out of sequence" I did a Rebuild Key Files with "Auto Sort events" checked and the original list was reduced to 15. It would appear to be caused by persons with no known date of birth having a single (???) other event WITH a date. I have managed to "eliminate" some of the 15 by giving them a birth date. Never the less there is one who has both a birth date and a date for military service but no marriage date that is still listed. His wife (no dates of any sort) is not listed. Any thoughts on the matter? HURU Mike

Ira- I have a registered copy of CFT for Windows 1.1, I just downloaded and installed 2.30 but it gives me an invalid user code. What did I do wrong? Is there more cost to me? Mr.T (Tracy Schell) from The Sunshine State. Visit my Homepage at: http://bbs.mpcs.com/~tschell Also visit my churches webpage at: http://www.geocities.com/~ncccfl My Sports Card Page: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Acres/4995

Warning: When installing CFTW 2.30 I made a mistake and installed it in the wrong subdirectory, so I thought I just run Uninstall to get rid of it and do the Install over again. Uninstall went alright, then it asked me in what Windowsgroup the program was installed so I answered 'Family Trees' (because here I have other related programs as well) and.... the complete Family Trees group was gone !! Completely deleted. (Fortunately I had a not too old copy of this one). After reinstalling in other subdir everything went OK again. Then I wanted to print, so I selected A3 size paper in Printer settings (HP-1100C), but on Page Settings I could only choose between US-letter and Euro-A4. Any chance that A3 size paper will be supported ? This all happened in Windows 3.1, running under OS/2 Warp4 Thanks and have a nice and quiet weekend, ---- Regards, Klaas L. Wijchman >>> Pre-1946 <<< ---- KLW@epo.e-mail.com (work) >>> National Geographics <<< ---- KLW@compuserve.com (work) >>> are very welcome <<< ---- KLW@mail.com (home) >>> indeed. Thank You <<<

>I always appreciate your updates. I have to say that from my perspective >you're pretty prompt with the most important modifications, considering >the demading users that we are. I most appreciate the fix of the >annoying backup error code 160 problem. Keep up the great work!! > >STEVEN J. FROME Thanks for the compliments. That backup problem I keep thinking has been around for a long time and what was so annoying about it is how simple it was to fix - if I could have only found what was causing the problem long ago. Ira ---------------------------------------------------------- Ira J. Lund Cumberland Family Software, Clarksville, Tennessee, USA Genealogy Software for Beginners and Professionals E-mail: ira.lund@cf-software.com http://www.cf-software.com

Ira: I always appreciate your updates. I have to say that from my perspective you're pretty prompt with the most important modifications, considering the demading users that we are. I most appreciate the fix of the annoying backup error code 160 problem. Keep up the great work!! STEVEN J. FROME Glen Cove, NY E-Mail: sfrome@juno.com or sfrome@aol.com Home Page: http://members.aol.com/sfrome _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]