I agree with Ian and Gale it's a great first step. A few points not mentioned: 1. I had to install *both* vspell32 and tx4ole even though I have v.2 installed. 2. Installing my DB took some extended playing with the install buttons. 3. I miss the buttons for changing Key Indiv. to mother/father/child. How does one do this now? 4. Changing fonts to colors is fun, but changing back to basic black could be clearer (I think it's the box to the left of white). Keep it up. Jon P.S. I have added access to Amazon.com to my web site. Any comments pro or con appreciated. ______________________________ | | | EMQUAD International, Ltd. | | P.O. Box 60 | | Great Neck, NY 11022 | | - | | emquad@worldnet.att.net | | http://home.att.net/~emquad | | - | | Consulting Division | | Publishing Division | |______________________________|

>On the Family Group page the columns are a little close together. When >they are adjusted in size the info is off the side of the open window. >The asterisk for photos and notes is missing. Names of the columns could >be centralized. No asterisks for photos and notes BUT there should appear some little icons: a small camera and a sheet of paper. If not make sure you really have notes and photos attached for that person. Ira ---------------------------------------------------------- Ira J. Lund Cumberland Family Software, Clarksville, Tennessee, USA Genealogy Software for Beginners and Professionals E-mail: ira.lund@cf-software.com http://www.cf-software.com

>In large databases, the Ancestor and Descendant tabs enter a protracted >calculation phase. Perhaps a preset generation limit would make them more >flexible in use. Their facility is wonderful, however. Good idea. >The Story tab is losing the names of spouses, parents and descendants when >there is a continuation of the name after the surname / / block. I had some tests where names after // did show. However, I do know that names get lost if there are any parenthesis ( ). This I do not understand. It is due to the TX Text OCX that allows the RTF capabilities. They are coming out with an upgrade later in the year and so hope that some small annoying things get fixed. I might point out that there is an "Option" for Story Formats. I like to enter the entire name in BOLD with a different color - like maroon (dark red) and the surname the same with underlining. Thanks, Ira ---------------------------------------------------------- Ira J. Lund Cumberland Family Software, Clarksville, Tennessee, USA Genealogy Software for Beginners and Professionals E-mail: ira.lund@cf-software.com http://www.cf-software.com

Thanks a lot Ira, Cftw 3 seems to be a fantastic product. Many good ideas : - Ancestors, Descendants and (in future) story windows. - Using UCC. - More than one source by event. - Resizable main window (I'm using 800x600 screen). - Using drag and drop... I had found some problems : - In Ctfw 2 Import, most of place names are lost in events : list of place names is right. - Langage editor (I could add french language) doesn't works. I had a Kernel32 error and the only way is turn off my computer. - If I want edit a document or a note, sometimes, I had to press Alt-Ctrl-Del for closing CTFW. Best regards, Patrick TEXIER, France Home Page : http://perso.wanadoo.fr/p.texier/ -----Message d'origine----- De: Ira J. Lund [SMTP:ira.lund@cf-software.com] Date: vendredi 29 mai 1998 22:35 À: CFT-WIN-L@rootsweb.com Objet: CFT-Win Ver 3 Beta 1 Current Version: Beta 1 now available on www.cf-software.com

Ira J. Lund wrote: > > Current Version: Beta 1 now available on www.cf-software.com Hi Ira I have tried out a database on the new beta version and it works great. Just a few things that I noticed that will need some minor changes In Name Search, the scroll cannot be moved using the mouse to drag the bar. On the Family Group page the columns are a little close together. When they are adjusted in size the info is off the side of the open window. The asterisk for photos and notes is missing. Names of the columns could be centralized. Keep up the good work. I am looking forward to the full version in due time Regards Gale

Ira, First impressions - excellent! Great work, and certainly well worth waiting for the rest of the enhancements. Am still having a good play with it, but so far so good. I miss the M key for selecting the mother and the change in key selection K alters the function of the S for swapping the key individual and spouse. However, using a two key approach does achieve the desired result. In large databases, the Ancestor and Descendant tabs enter a protracted calculation phase. Perhaps a preset generation limit would make them more flexible in use. Their facility is wonderful, however. The Story tab is losing the names of spouses, parents and descendants when there is a continuation of the name after the surname / / block. Cheers, Ian Fettes Brisbane, Queensland, Australia Reply to: fettesi@st.net.au

Current Version: Beta 1 now available on www.cf-software.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------- (Beta 1 consists of only the editing functions and a few Tools.) Download file: cftw3b1.zip [x.xxMb] [32-bit only - Windows 95 or NT. No Windows 3.1 Version will be available.] WARNING: This program is beta, meaning it is likely unstable. Use it only for testing purposes. Do not trust any of your good data to it. The database structure may change and the ability to preserve data throughout the beta phase may not be possible. Discussions on the Beta program will take place on the CFT-Win Mailing List. You may also send e-mails directly to Ira Lund. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------- CFT-Win Version 3 Outline AS CFT-Win Version 3 is being developed releases will be placed here for user testing and comments. Since beta 1 took about 8 months to develop (because of my limited time) you can certainly expect long development times on the remaining features to be implement. (Sorry, but I only do this part-time.) An outline of the three major parts of the program is given below: 1.Editing Functions [Initial Completion in Beta 1] 2.Tools Import/ Export Utilities [Only CFT-Win Ver 2 Import complete in Beta 1.] Global Search, Relationships, Rebuild, Import/Export, etc. Selection Lists, Name Case, BookMark. [These tools completed in Beta 1] Database Tools: Backup, Restore, Split, Merge. 3.Printing and Publishing Various Reports RTF Publishing (Indexed Book) HTML (Web) Publishing Electronic Publishing (for sharing disks/ CDs with family) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------- Installation Instructions 1.Download the file above to a temporary directory on your hard drive. 2.Unzip the file, placing all contents in a NEW folder such as c:\cftw3. 3.Register the two OCX's: 1.Press Start, Run and enter: c:\cftw3\regsvr32 c:\cftw\vspell32.ocx 2.Press Start, Run and enter: c:\cftw3\regsvr32 c:\cftw\tx4ole.ocx You should get a message "successfully registered" after each register. If you already have CFT-Win Ver 2 with the spell checker successfully working you can skip the first step. 4.Place an icon on your desktop to run the new program. This can be done by right clicking the background on your computer. Go to New -> shortcut and enter the command line: c:\cftw3\cftw.exe and entering a name: CFT-Win BETA. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------- New Features in Version 3 * Main Window now shows Family Group, Ancestors, Descendants and Story. * CFT-Win Database is now contained in a single file which can be located on any drive in any folder. * Database structure completely rewritten for faster lookups. Media, Places, Addresses, Misc Data, Sources, Documents can immediately display the names they are attached to. * Right Mouse-Click Popups, drag and drop to reorder children and events. * Names now sorted several way in NameSearch: by Surname, Multiple Surname, and Given Name. * Unlimited number of children per family and parents per child. * Notes (Documents, Individual and Event Notes) now have full word processing capability: underline, bold, italic, colors, font changes, etc. * Multi-media - can now attach photos, sound and video files to individuals and documents. * Two level Sources: A reference plus details. Actual source references may point to a Source Reference (such as a book), Source Detail (such as a specific page number) or Document. * Unlimited number of sources may be attached to any given event or individual. * UCC integration. Now any of the 10 Calendar dates in UCC can be entered into CFT-Win with sorting and date comparison in-tact even with various calendars in use! * New "Address" List is now kept seperate from "Place" List. * New WITNESS Event allows an event reference to another event. * Copy and paste events from one person to another. * Multi-Lingual capabilities. 1.Able to enter many other languages other than Western European (Latin-1). Now can also include: Eastern European, Greek, Cyrillic, Hindi, Gujarati, etc. 2.Use more than one language in a single database. You set a "primary" language and any number of "secondary" languages. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------- What is not yet implemented? * NO HELP. * Fonts other than Latin-1 cannot be used in Note Fields. * No right-to-left support for Hebrew and Arabic. * Most Tools have not been implemented. * Reports, publishing and printing not yet implemented. ---------------------------------------------------------- Ira J. Lund Cumberland Family Software, Clarksville, Tennessee, USA Genealogy Software for Beginners and Professionals E-mail: ira.lund@cf-software.com http://www.cf-software.com

Ira J. Lund wrote: > > >Some strange event happened to me when upgrading to 2.30x. > > >as my first task and now the task completely stopped by individual 453 - I > >could see a No like the abovementioned and the sec. part of the xxxx:453. > I have just fixed a database which reached IRN 2849 and then went beserk. Each new entry thereafter went in as 2849 and spouses appeared pointing to individuals already in the database. It would not backup to a zip file and the only way I could get a copy was by using Win95 backup routines, or preparing a GEDCOM file. The fix was to make by importing the GEDCOM file into another genealogical program which is available on the net. This program writes only those records that are complete and puts any others into an error file. The correct records were then exported by GEDCOM and successfully imported into CFTW. Maybe such a routine may help your problem Regards Gale

That's a good idea. Jens -----Original Message----- From: Gschneidinger Max <Max.Gschneidinger@ZP.SIEMENS.DE> To: CFT-WIN-L@rootsweb.com <CFT-WIN-L@rootsweb.com> Date: 28. maj 1998 10:48 Subject: AW: Electing NOT to OVERWRITE - and I may add another wish: a window with a history list >for an easy way to go back to previous key persons one has worked on. > >Max

At 11:55 PM 5/27/98 -0400, you wrote: >Ira, I intended to answer this earlier but didn't get around to it. >I use the latest version of CFT and don't have any problem with >the automatic backup. When I exit the program it asks if I >want to overwrite the existing backup and, when I click NO, it >doesn't do so. I've checked and it works as it should. > >Not meaning to cast aspersions on anyone's system, but could >it be that some file was corrupted upon installation, or since? I think the prior message indicated that the backup worked fine for the user but they just wanted assurance that it was working - verbal assurance from me, I guess. Although I think many of the users have far more experience with the actual "use" of the program than I do. I only wrote the thing! <grin> Ira ---------------------------------------------------------- Ira J. Lund Cumberland Family Software, Clarksville, Tennessee, USA Genealogy Software for Beginners and Professionals E-mail: ira.lund@cf-software.com http://www.cf-software.com

>I found a small bug which I haven't seen noticed before. >If I during editing an individual press the <Add>-button by mistake I should of >course be able to press <Cancel> to return. >But instead pops up a new event -Reseal- which is not what I wanted. Thanks. Will look into this. >I have also discovered changes in the language- and stdeve-files. There are some >new stuff that needs translation into Swedish. I will make this and mail the files separately >to You Ira. > >Btw, one of them was the event 'e-mail address'. Why the past tense in the phrase 'had an e-mail address'? Just a little reflection! Why the past tense? I guess because all events use the past tense (since I can't mix present and past). Suppose I recorded several addresses for an individual - places they had lived at over the years. They all can't be present so they are all past - even the present address. I know no easy way to programmatically do this. Even simply looking to see if the "to" date exists may be false since they may have moved from the address but no one knows "when". Ira ---------------------------------------------------------- Ira J. Lund Cumberland Family Software, Clarksville, Tennessee, USA Genealogy Software for Beginners and Professionals E-mail: ira.lund@cf-software.com http://www.cf-software.com

I don't see a big problem here. You have several options: 1 - upon closing your db you make a backup - then your database and the backup are identical and show the latest inputs 2- you don' make a backup - then you have to decide whether 2a - you continue the next session with the most recent version of your db - or 2b - you restore your db from the previous backup and continue from that status but lose all inputs since your last backup. 3 - you copy your backups somewhere else or rename them and such have older versions available just in case. Since it happened to me that I incidentally clicked 'yes' when asked whether to overwrite the existing backup, probably an additional reminder would be handy ("are you sure you want to overwrite..."). Please remind that some of us thought an 'undo last operation button' would be a good idea - and I may add another wish: a window with a history list for an easy way to go back to previous key persons one has worked on. Max max.gschneidinger@zp.siemens.de > ---------- ..... I use the latest version of CFT and don't have any problem with > the automatic backup. When I exit the program it asks if I > want to overwrite the existing backup and, when I click NO, it > doesn't do so. I've checked and it works as it should. .... > > SgtGeorge > > At 06:33 AM 5/27/98 -0500, Ira J. Lund wrote: > >>Could we please have a confirmation in future that when we select not to > >>overwrite that a backup is not made and thus that our previous backup > will > >>not contain any errors we may have introduced in out last use of the > >>database? > > > >Will add to my list, but as far as I know it works properly. > > > >>BTW - As I understand it, every time I close my database (even by > clicking > >>the top right "X") I save a "new" version that is opened next time I > access > >>that database. Is this so? (Again according to my check with Explorer > just > >>then the answer is yes). > > > >CFT-Win is a "database" application. As such data gets updated as you > work > >on it. Closing the database assures data integrity by closing out all > files > >and making sure that any buffers are written to the data file. > > > >Hope this clarifies. > > > >Ira > > > >---------------------------------------------------------- > > Ira J. Lund > > Cumberland Family Software, Clarksville, Tennessee, USA > > Genealogy Software for Beginners and Professionals > > E-mail: ira.lund@cf-software.com > > http://www.cf-software.com > > >

At 06:36 AM 5/27/98 -0500, Ira J. Lund wrote: >>as my first task and now the task completely stopped by individual 453 - I >>could see a No like the abovementioned and the sec. part of the xxxx:453. >Sorry no better help. But with these crazy computers I have often come >across situations that I never understood why they happened or what caused >them. I've just had to repair and then move on. Many times the problem >never re-occurred and I soon forgot about it. You hit the nail exactly on the head with your reply. Win95 is so flaky that these kinds of problems crop up all the time. Even with a perfectly written program, Win95 occasionally decides to do some nasty deed and screw up this or that file. AND, you NEVER know what Win95 is going to do to your registry when you install a totally different program, one that has no connection to CFT. There are many times when the only answer is to repair the Registry with a 3rd party program. What gripes me is that MS never worked the bugs out of 95 and 97 before moving on to 98. Now we will have to put up with an entire new gener- ation of bugs. SgtGeorge

Ira, I intended to answer this earlier but didn't get around to it. I use the latest version of CFT and don't have any problem with the automatic backup. When I exit the program it asks if I want to overwrite the existing backup and, when I click NO, it doesn't do so. I've checked and it works as it should. Not meaning to cast aspersions on anyone's system, but could it be that some file was corrupted upon installation, or since? Just a thought. SgtGeorge At 06:33 AM 5/27/98 -0500, Ira J. Lund wrote: >>Could we please have a confirmation in future that when we select not to >>overwrite that a backup is not made and thus that our previous backup will >>not contain any errors we may have introduced in out last use of the >>database? > >Will add to my list, but as far as I know it works properly. > >>BTW - As I understand it, every time I close my database (even by clicking >>the top right "X") I save a "new" version that is opened next time I access >>that database. Is this so? (Again according to my check with Explorer just >>then the answer is yes). > >CFT-Win is a "database" application. As such data gets updated as you work >on it. Closing the database assures data integrity by closing out all files >and making sure that any buffers are written to the data file. > >Hope this clarifies. > >Ira > >---------------------------------------------------------- > Ira J. Lund > Cumberland Family Software, Clarksville, Tennessee, USA > Genealogy Software for Beginners and Professionals > E-mail: ira.lund@cf-software.com > http://www.cf-software.com >

Hello Ira and all! I found a small bug which I haven't seen noticed before. If I during editing an individual press the <Add>-button by mistake I should of course be able to press <Cancel> to return. But instead pops up a new event -Reseal- which is not what I wanted. OK, I press <Close> and now a new event is added at the bottom of the list, NOT -Reseal-, but -Marriage-!!! The resulting event was -Marriage- because there was a Marriage-event at the bottom of the list. I tried other individuals and the result was that the new unwanted event is the same type that is at the bottom of the eventlist. I can remove the event but it is a little annoying though. I have also discovered changes in the language- and stdeve-files. There are some new stuff that needs translation into Swedish. I will make this and mail the files separately to You Ira. Btw, one of them was the event 'e-mail address'. Why the past tense in the phrase 'had an e-mail address'? Just a little reflection! Ulf Göransson Flyinge, Sweden ulf.goransson@mbox300.swipnet.se

At 05:59 PM 5/26/98 -0400, you wrote: >Don't know if this has been reported in version 2.30 yet: I didn't have >any "order of events out of sequence" in the db verification leaving 2.29 >yet when I do the verification in 2.30 there is a ton of them. > >All individuals listed have events without dates; yet not all individuals >with events without dates are listed. I'm not sure how the listed >individuals were selected to be "events out of sequence". Yes, it has been reported. I did some work on this and may have introduced some errors here. I will be looking into it. Ira ---------------------------------------------------------- Ira J. Lund Cumberland Family Software, Clarksville, Tennessee, USA Genealogy Software for Beginners and Professionals E-mail: ira.lund@cf-software.com http://www.cf-software.com

>Some strange event happened to me when upgrading to 2.30x. >as my first task and now the task completely stopped by individual 453 - I >could see a No like the abovementioned and the sec. part of the xxxx:453. No idea what caused this. There may have been a corruption in the database for some time that was not noticed until now. Sorry no better help. But with these crazy computers I have often come across situations that I never understood why they happened or what caused them. I've just had to repair and then move on. Many times the problem never re-occurred and I soon forgot about it. Ira ---------------------------------------------------------- Ira J. Lund Cumberland Family Software, Clarksville, Tennessee, USA Genealogy Software for Beginners and Professionals E-mail: ira.lund@cf-software.com http://www.cf-software.com

>Could we please have a confirmation in future that when we select not to >overwrite that a backup is not made and thus that our previous backup will >not contain any errors we may have introduced in out last use of the >database? Will add to my list, but as far as I know it works properly. >BTW - As I understand it, every time I close my database (even by clicking >the top right "X") I save a "new" version that is opened next time I access >that database. Is this so? (Again according to my check with Explorer just >then the answer is yes). CFT-Win is a "database" application. As such data gets updated as you work on it. Closing the database assures data integrity by closing out all files and making sure that any buffers are written to the data file. Hope this clarifies. Ira ---------------------------------------------------------- Ira J. Lund Cumberland Family Software, Clarksville, Tennessee, USA Genealogy Software for Beginners and Professionals E-mail: ira.lund@cf-software.com http://www.cf-software.com

Don't know if this has been reported in version 2.30 yet: I didn't have any "order of events out of sequence" in the db verification leaving 2.29 yet when I do the verification in 2.30 there is a ton of them. All individuals listed have events without dates; yet not all individuals with events without dates are listed. I'm not sure how the listed individuals were selected to be "events out of sequence". Any help? Karen Pastuzyn

Hello Ira and all, I just uploaded the first version of my (still rather humble) website. You can find it at http://www.hasekamp.demon.nl I linked to http://www.cf-software.com of course and made some kind remarks about CFT-Win (on both my "links" page and on my "genealogy" page). Please take a look someday and place a link on your "user-links" page. And of course, all you CFT-Win users come and take a look too. I will be happy to see your "hits" on my counter! The genealogy page is still very restricted. I hope Version 3 will give possibilities to publish all the reports as html. Then it is much easier to put parts of my genealogy on the Web. Regards and "happy rooting", Ren Hasekamp