I've gotten this, too. It's very easy to get if you happen to press the wrong buttons when opening the database. At 07:50 PM 6/3/98 -0500, you wrote: >At 06:45 PM 6/2/98 -0500, you wrote: >>Ira - Several times while I am exploring V3 Beta, I get something called a >>Word Code Error with an option to Abort or Ignore. It seems like whichever >>way I go, the program locks up. I can select Start and Shut Down, but then >>it locks up again and the only way I can get back on line is to shut off >>the computer and turn it back on. With scan disk having to look at my 6 GB >>HD and several thousand files, it takes a long time to recover. I think I >>will uninstall Beta 1 and wait for a later Beta. J. ______________________________ | | | EMQUAD International, Ltd. | | P.O. Box 60 | | Great Neck, NY 11022 | | - | | emquad@worldnet.att.net | | http://home.att.net/~emquad | | - | | Consulting Division | | Publishing Division | |______________________________|

Terrific stuff, this! >The purpose of the Selection Lists vs the old Marking done in Ver 2 is that >with the Selection Lists you can create multiple "marked" lists, thus you >could have one List that was named "Pres. Thomas Jefferson's Ancestors" and >another named "Pres Thomas Jefferson's Descendants" and thus when an >Indexed Book is created you simply tell one report to use one list and the >other report to use a different list. OR when you do a GED Export you tell >it which Selection List to use and there goes the GED file. > >I hope the use of these Selection Lists is now clearer. > >Ira \*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/ Yair Sachs The Hebrew University of Jerusalem Computation Center, Communication group sachs@cc.huji.ac.il Tel: office 972-2 - 6584484 fax " 6527349 home " 6438948 mobile 052 - 608073 /*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\

To DIMSDALE: This email is only for a user I have been working with to try to find out why he can't post email here. I'm working with some different addresses for him to see which ones work. Please excuse. SgtGeorge Listowner

>I think what was asked was a feature similar to Family Tree Maker's ability >to pick 2 related people and show the direct line between the 2 people. As >well, FTM can create a GEDCOM of all people in a given report, and it's >possible to pick the number of generations you want to include. For example >if you want the first 3 generations of descendants for a person, you can >easily do it. With CFT you would have to get all descendants or manually >pick the ones you want. Another useful report would be the Collapsed >Ancestor Chart as in Brother's Keeper. I have about 900 ancestors in my tree >and to print them off requires about 75 pages. With BK it requires only 1 >line per person so about 15 pages. BK also has the ability to limit >generations. These features combined with CFT's ability to send a report to >a text file would create a very useful report. I consider CFT a superior >product to both these programs but these are features I appreciate in the >other programs. Some good ideas. Thanks, Ira ---------------------------------------------------------- Ira J. Lund Cumberland Family Software, Clarksville, Tennessee, USA Genealogy Software for Beginners and Professionals E-mail: ira.lund@cf-software.com http://www.cf-software.com

At 07:04 AM 6/3/98 -0400, you wrote: >This will be unfortunate bad news for me as I have hundreds of addresses >(ADDR's) which comprise street address and place name if by "address" you >mean, say, 1 Broadway, and by "place name" you mean, say, New York, New >York. My placename list in v.2 comprises hundreds of entries with >address+placename and hundreds of entries with just placename (e.g. BIRT, >DEAT, BURI). Or, perhaps, I simply don't understand what you're doing. >Some expamples? An address example: 385 Idaho Springs Road, Clarksville, TN 37043 The whole thing is the address. Try a small sample database and see what it does. Ira ---------------------------------------------------------- Ira J. Lund Cumberland Family Software, Clarksville, Tennessee, USA Genealogy Software for Beginners and Professionals E-mail: ira.lund@cf-software.com http://www.cf-software.com

At 06:45 PM 6/2/98 -0500, you wrote: >Ira - Several times while I am exploring V3 Beta, I get something called a >Word Code Error with an option to Abort or Ignore. It seems like whichever >way I go, the program locks up. I can select Start and Shut Down, but then >it locks up again and the only way I can get back on line is to shut off >the computer and turn it back on. With scan disk having to look at my 6 GB >HD and several thousand files, it takes a long time to recover. I think I >will uninstall Beta 1 and wait for a later Beta. My suggestion would have been to re-install Beta 1. It sounds like something is corrupt - the STDEVENT.TPS file most likely. Ira ---------------------------------------------------------- Ira J. Lund Cumberland Family Software, Clarksville, Tennessee, USA Genealogy Software for Beginners and Professionals E-mail: ira.lund@cf-software.com http://www.cf-software.com

Tue, 02 Jun 1998 19:28:53 -0500, Ira J. Lund : >I hope this is sufficiently clear that you can follow this. Wonderful, I did not know it was possible already. I have just tried it, and it works beautifully. I am impressed! Now I am really looking forward to using version 3. Regards Sigurd Eliassen Norway

Ira I think what was asked was a feature similar to Family Tree Maker's ability to pick 2 related people and show the direct line between the 2 people. As well, FTM can create a GEDCOM of all people in a given report, and it's possible to pick the number of generations you want to include. For example if you want the first 3 generations of descendants for a person, you can easily do it. With CFT you would have to get all descendants or manually pick the ones you want. Another useful report would be the Collapsed Ancestor Chart as in Brother's Keeper. I have about 900 ancestors in my tree and to print them off requires about 75 pages. With BK it requires only 1 line per person so about 15 pages. BK also has the ability to limit generations. These features combined with CFT's ability to send a report to a text file would create a very useful report. I consider CFT a superior product to both these programs but these are features I appreciate in the other programs. Stuart Ward -----Original Message----- From: Ira J. Lund [SMTP:ira.lund@cf-software.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 1998 9:38 PM To: CFT-WIN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: Beta # Ver. 3 >I would also like to make a suggestion that would automate creating a >gedcom file on a specific branch or twig of one's family tree. For >example, I have a link to President Thomas Jefferson( He is a very >distant cousin several times removed) and I want to create a gedcom file >of that specific branch. Could it be possible for the computer to look >at that branch from a specific person and look forward and include >everyone linked into this branch of the family? I was thinking if this >was possible, that the key individual would be selected and a icon would >be clicked on >and the program would do its magic and create a gedcom file. This would >be better than having to do it manually. This sounds like the Marking in Ver 2 where you pick a person and then choose to mark all of that person's ancestors or ancestral branch or descendants or descendant branch. In Version 3 I will have something similar. BUT this will be handled via "Selection Lists". In fact there is some work already done on the selection lists - but I have not entered the ancestor descendent stuff. I need to add that. The purpose of the Selection Lists vs the old Marking done in Ver 2 is that with the Selection Lists you can create multiple "marked" lists, thus you could have one List that was named "Pres. Thomas Jefferson's Ancestors" and another named "Pres Thomas Jefferson's Descendants" and thus when an Indexed Book is created you simply tell one report to use one list and the other report to use a different list. OR when you do a GED Export you tell it which Selection List to use and there goes the GED file. I hope the use of these Selection Lists is now clearer. Ira ---------------------------------------------------------- Ira J. Lund Cumberland Family Software, Clarksville, Tennessee, USA Genealogy Software for Beginners and Professionals E-mail: ira.lund@cf-software.com http://www.cf-software.com

Ian, Thanks but I think this will bring trouble when I create (as I did for my book using v.2) a full Place-Name Cross-Reference report, which could have entries like "New York, New York" and under this "New York, New York, 1 Broadway" etc. Jon At 09:17 PM 6/3/98 +1000, you wrote: >Jon, > >I think what Ira means is that the place name in version 2 under the Event >ADDR, will become classified in version 3 as an Address, even if it >elsewhere is referenced as a Place. Any other places referred to other than >by the Event ADDR will remain as Places. ______________________________ | | | EMQUAD International, Ltd. | | P.O. Box 60 | | Great Neck, NY 11022 | | - | | emquad@worldnet.att.net | | http://home.att.net/~emquad | | - | | Consulting Division | | Publishing Division | |______________________________|

Jon, I think what Ira means is that the place name in version 2 under the Event ADDR, will become classified in version 3 as an Address, even if it elsewhere is referenced as a Place. Any other places referred to other than by the Event ADDR will remain as Places. Simple eh? Ian Fettes Brisbane, Queensland, Australia Reply to: fettesi@st.net.au -----Original Message----- From: J.E. Myers <emquad@worldnet.att.net> To: CFT-WIN-L@rootsweb.com <CFT-WIN-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Wednesday, 3 June 1998 21:06 Subject: CFT-Win 3 >This will be unfortunate bad news for me as I have hundreds of addresses >(ADDR's) which comprise street address and place name if by "address" you >mean, say, 1 Broadway, and by "place name" you mean, say, New York, New >York. My placename list in v.2 comprises hundreds of entries with >address+placename and hundreds of entries with just placename (e.g. BIRT, >DEAT, BURI). Or, perhaps, I simply don't understand what you're doing. >Some expamples?

This will be unfortunate bad news for me as I have hundreds of addresses (ADDR's) which comprise street address and place name if by "address" you mean, say, 1 Broadway, and by "place name" you mean, say, New York, New York. My placename list in v.2 comprises hundreds of entries with address+placename and hundreds of entries with just placename (e.g. BIRT, DEAT, BURI). Or, perhaps, I simply don't understand what you're doing. Some expamples? > >Let me try to explain this again. When data is imported from Ver 2, it will >put all "place" names in ver 2 to "place" names in Ver 3 - regardless of >the format. One exception is when it sees the ADDR (address event) then it >puts the "place" name from Ver 2 into the "address" list of Ver 3. > J. ______________________________ | | | EMQUAD International, Ltd. | | P.O. Box 60 | | Great Neck, NY 11022 | | - | | emquad@worldnet.att.net | | http://home.att.net/~emquad | | - | | Consulting Division | | Publishing Division | |______________________________|

>I tested the Beta 1 - Long file names available only for picking picktures >into the image database, but why not >Use same method for viewing the images ?? see the attatched picture. Yes, I see that long names are compacted and I didn't want that. I shall change this for long names as you suggest. Ira ---------------------------------------------------------- Ira J. Lund Cumberland Family Software, Clarksville, Tennessee, USA Genealogy Software for Beginners and Professionals E-mail: ira.lund@cf-software.com http://www.cf-software.com

>I would also like to make a suggestion that would automate creating a >gedcom file on a specific branch or twig of one's family tree. For >example, I have a link to President Thomas Jefferson( He is a very >distant cousin several times removed) and I want to create a gedcom file >of that specific branch. Could it be possible for the computer to look >at that branch from a specific person and look forward and include >everyone linked into this branch of the family? I was thinking if this >was possible, that the key individual would be selected and a icon would >be clicked on >and the program would do its magic and create a gedcom file. This would >be better than having to do it manually. This sounds like the Marking in Ver 2 where you pick a person and then choose to mark all of that person's ancestors or ancestral branch or descendants or descendant branch. In Version 3 I will have something similar. BUT this will be handled via "Selection Lists". In fact there is some work already done on the selection lists - but I have not entered the ancestor descendent stuff. I need to add that. The purpose of the Selection Lists vs the old Marking done in Ver 2 is that with the Selection Lists you can create multiple "marked" lists, thus you could have one List that was named "Pres. Thomas Jefferson's Ancestors" and another named "Pres Thomas Jefferson's Descendants" and thus when an Indexed Book is created you simply tell one report to use one list and the other report to use a different list. OR when you do a GED Export you tell it which Selection List to use and there goes the GED file. I hope the use of these Selection Lists is now clearer. Ira ---------------------------------------------------------- Ira J. Lund Cumberland Family Software, Clarksville, Tennessee, USA Genealogy Software for Beginners and Professionals E-mail: ira.lund@cf-software.com http://www.cf-software.com

>But will we be able to convert the one level sources in cftw2 to two >level sources in cftw3 after an import of a cftw2 database? I knew this question was coming sooner or later and I have provided a way to make this as painless as possible. So let me explain how it is done: It is all done in the Source Editor. Bring up the source editor (after an import from Ver 2) and you will see all sources are in the Reference List with none in the Details List. So what you will have to do is manually break down each source note into it's component parts. Let me illustrate with an example. Suppose I start out with the following sources (all in Ref List): Lund, Ira J., Personal Records, Birth Certificate. Lund, Ira J., Personal Records, Marriage Certificate. Clark, Kay L., "History of MH Lund", page 23. Clark, Kay L., "History of MH Lund", page 45-46. Clark, Kay L., "History of MH Lund", page 70. What I want to end up with is only 2 References and 5 Details: Ref: Lund, Ira J., Personal Records Det: Birth Certificate Det: Marriage Certificate Ref: Clark, Kay L., "History of MH Lund" Det: page 23 Det: page 45-46 Det: page 70 Step 1. Create a NEW Reference with just the Ref part of the source. Step 2. Add appropriate Details for that Reference. Step 3. MERGE a Source Detail with the identical Source Reference. This does two things. 1. It will change ALL pointers from individuals and events from the old Reference (Lund, Ira J., Personal Records, Birth Certificate) to the new Detail (Det: Birth Certificate) and 2. It will delete the old Reference. Thus you will not have to go through every event and every individual making sure they are connected to the right source. The MERGE Source allows you to merge two Details, two References or a Detail with a Reference. In the case we have descibed you want to make sure you select the Detail First and the Reference Second. The first selection is always the PRIMARY and is retained. The Second is the Secondary and is deleted after pointers refering to it are switched to point to the Primary source. I hope this is sufficiently clear that you can follow this. Ira ---------------------------------------------------------- Ira J. Lund Cumberland Family Software, Clarksville, Tennessee, USA Genealogy Software for Beginners and Professionals E-mail: ira.lund@cf-software.com http://www.cf-software.com

>I do not get what´s distribution criteria the between between address and >place editor. I use exact addreses in birth, residence etc. events. When >importing to CFT-Win3, no place information appeared - not in individual >editor nor in story. > >Here I have the same experience as Patric with a difference - both address >editor and place editor lists are uncomplete (comparing with Place Name >editor in ver.2). Let me try to explain this again. When data is imported from Ver 2, it will put all "place" names in ver 2 to "place" names in Ver 3 - regardless of the format. One exception is when it sees the ADDR (address event) then it puts the "place" name from Ver 2 into the "address" list of Ver 3. (I may have also made the RESI - residence - event work like the ADDR event, can't remember right now.) >I miss the tree and bookmarks icons a bit... The "tree" icon is replaced with the "ancestors" tab. The format is different but the function is the same. The BookMark is there (press "B" or Tools Menu), but I suppose you mean you would like the icon there. This could be done. Ira ---------------------------------------------------------- Ira J. Lund Cumberland Family Software, Clarksville, Tennessee, USA Genealogy Software for Beginners and Professionals E-mail: ira.lund@cf-software.com http://www.cf-software.com

>>I also would like to see the buttons for changing key individual in future >>v3.x versions. There have been several times in v2 when I press the "F" >>several times to "quickly" go up five generations. In CFT v3 beta program, >>it would take much more effort to double-click the mouse to change the key >>individual. >> >>Jeff > >Quite right. > >>>but I may reinstate them if it seems the right thing to do. > >>>Ira > >Recommended. Please do! It seems that they are popular enough. Consider the change made for the next beta. Ira ---------------------------------------------------------- Ira J. Lund Cumberland Family Software, Clarksville, Tennessee, USA Genealogy Software for Beginners and Professionals E-mail: ira.lund@cf-software.com http://www.cf-software.com

Ira: The problems enumerated in my prior email still persist, even after following you directions, and subsequent file deletions and new downloads. The vspell32 doesn't succeed and it appears to have some effect on opening a database in the Beta. If the Beta does open, and I import a v2 database, it will stop loading at the image file and freezes. When I try to open a new database, I get ERROR! Language file missing or second instance of program not allowed. There is no second file open when this occurs. I can't imagine why any of this is happening. Any chance you can send me the beta on disk? STEVEN J. FROME Glen Cove, NY E-Mail: sfrome@juno.com or sfrome@aol.com Home Page: http://members.aol.com/sfrome On Mon, 01 Jun 1998 17:27:18 -0500 "Ira J. Lund" <ira.lund@cf-software.com> writes: >>Following your directions, I then Register the two OCX's: >> >>1. Press Start, Run and enter: c:\cftw3\regsvr32 >c:\cftw\vspell32.ocx, >>which returns the following Error Message: LoadLibrary >>("c:\cftw\vspell32.ocx") failed. GetLastError returns 0x00000485. > >I mistakenly left the 3 out of the c:\cftw in the second part. Try >this: > >c:\cftw3\regsvr32 c:\cftw3\vspell32.ocx > >>Changing the command to: c:\cftw3\regsvr32 c:\CFTW3\vspell32.ocx >returns >>the same result. > >Using explorer or DOS make sure that regsvr32.exe and vspell32.ocx are >really in the c:\cftw3 directory. Must be missing something here. > >>2. Press Start, Run and enter: c:\cftw3\regsvr32 c:\cftw\tx4ole.ocx >>returns the same result. >> >>Changing the command to: c:\cftw3\regsvr32 c:\cftw3\tx4ole.ocx >returns a >>SUCCESSFUL install. > >I made the same mistake here. You have discovered the method of >success here. > >However, as long as you don't try to use the spell checker all else >will >work fine if you cannot install vspell32.ocx. But I cannot imagine why >it >will not install for you. > >Ira > >---------------------------------------------------------- > Ira J. Lund > Cumberland Family Software, Clarksville, Tennessee, USA > Genealogy Software for Beginners and Professionals > E-mail: ira.lund@cf-software.com > http://www.cf-software.com > > _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

Ira - Several times while I am exploring V3 Beta, I get something called a Word Code Error with an option to Abort or Ignore. It seems like whichever way I go, the program locks up. I can select Start and Shut Down, but then it locks up again and the only way I can get back on line is to shut off the computer and turn it back on. With scan disk having to look at my 6 GB HD and several thousand files, it takes a long time to recover. I think I will uninstall Beta 1 and wait for a later Beta. Ed

Thanks, Ira!!! >>5. The Free Format in events is an interesting addition, but I would love >>to see the Free Format text placed just BEFORE the date(s) rather than just >>AFTER, and I would prefer the text NOT have parentheses surrounding it. >Thanks for this suggestion. I think I should provide some options: place >free format date before or after date in story, to include or not include >parenthesis. ______________________________ | | | EMQUAD International, Ltd. | | P.O. Box 60 | | Great Neck, NY 11022 | | - | | emquad@worldnet.att.net | | http://home.att.net/~emquad | | - | | Consulting Division | | Publishing Division | |______________________________|

I agree very much with Yair. Please reinstate the buttons! I did not yet take a look at Version 3 beta, because I am not much of a tester. Installing new software makes me nervous already, let alone testing beta versions! But I will be heppy to download beta 3 or 4! Regards, Ren Hasekamp http://www.hasekamp.demon.nl ---------- > Van: Yair Sachs <sachs@cc.huji.ac.il> > Aan: CFT-WIN-L@rootsweb.com > Onderwerp: Re: CFT-Win Ver 3 Beta 1 > Datum: dinsdag 2 juni 1998 14:12 > > At 11:19 PM 6/1/98 -0500, you wrote: > >I also would like to see the buttons for changing key individual in future > >v3.x versions. There have been several times in v2 when I press the "F" > >several times to "quickly" go up five generations. In CFT v3 beta program, > >it would take much more effort to double-click the mouse to change the key > >individual. > > > >The shortcuts that were in version 2 give CFT a unique user interface that > >most other programs do not use. Why change a good thing if you don't have > >to? These little shortcuts are "very" valuable when working with/entering > >a database with 7000+ individuals. > > > >Jeff > > Quite right. > > >>but I may reinstate them if it seems the right thing to do. > > >>Ira > > Recommended. Please do! > > > \*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/ > Yair Sachs > The Hebrew University of Jerusalem > Computation Center, Communication group > > sachs@cc.huji.ac.il > > Tel: office 972-2 - 6584484 > fax " 6527349 > home " 6438948 > mobile 052 - 608073 > /*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\ >