I tried different resolutions on two different machines one running WinNT and one Win95. No icons! Ulf Göransson Sweden ----------------- >One other thing, I do not see any icons in the spaces between MARR and SEX >although I have notes and photos attached to several individuals. Any ideas >anyone. Several people have said this but I have no idea whatsoever the cause of this. I wonder if it is due to screen resolution or something? But that doesn't make sense either. Ira ---------------------------------------------------------- Ira J. Lund Cumberland Family Software, Clarksville, Tennessee, USA Genealogy Software for Beginners and Professionals E-mail: ira.lund@cf-software.com http://www.cf-software.com

>"GREY" page on a NOTE means that the TX OCX did not register! Need to exit >the program and then try this from the Start Button - Run: > >c:\cftw3\regsvr32 c:\cftw3\tx4ole.ocx > >You should get a "successfully registered" message. If not it didn't work. >I now wonder if this is the cause of the missing icons for everyone else. >Perhaps none of these people have the TX OCX proplery registered? Those >without the icons, can you verify? Ira, I one of those without icons. However - TX OCX was registered succesfully and note page is OK. Petr

G'day Ira, >>register, I got a message ("c:\cftw\vspell32.ocx") failed. GetLastError >>returns 0x00000485. However it does not appear to have prevented the program >>working. > >As long as you don't try to spell check a note then all will be fine. My Just a comment on this. You mention on the web page that you do not have to do the "vspell32.ocx" bit if you already have spell working in 2.x. My spell does work in 2.x and when I inadvertently tried to do the "vspell32.ocx" bit I got the ERROR message. BUT I have just tried a spell check in Beta3 and all works OK. HURU, Mike

G'day Ira, >"GREY" page on a NOTE means that the TX OCX did not register! Need to exit >the program and then try this from the Start Button - Run: > >c:\cftw3\regsvr32 c:\cftw3\tx4ole.ocx > >You should get a "successfully registered" message. If not it didn't work. >I now wonder if this is the cause of the missing icons for everyone else. >Perhaps none of these people have the TX OCX proplery registered? Those >without the icons, can you verify? At my last "re-install" TX OCX was correctly registered and the Grey Screen has gone. Unfortunately, even after adding a couple on NEW notes and NEW media there were still NO icons. BTW - I normally install CFT in my E:\ drive (where both 2.9 and Beta3 again happily reside in different folders). In order to try an eliminate other possibilities I did in fact delete Beta3 from E:\ and re-install in C:\ but it made no difference. HURU, Mike

At 06:18 PM 6/10/1998 -0500, you wrote: > >You should get a "successfully registered" message. If not it didn't work. >I now wonder if this is the cause of the missing icons for everyone else. >Perhaps none of these people have the TX OCX proplery registered? Those >without the icons, can you verify? Ira - I was one of those that didn't get the ocx files to register. I have done that now and I now get the notes, but still no icons for notes, source, adoption. Tool bar icons are, of course, there I added some of my user added events and that straightens out some problems. Not being a programmer or a script writer, I don't understand the Story Sentence or Witness Story Sentence. (I'm going back through old messages to see if there are any clues). Is there a text that can give me some help on that? Ed Blakeley

At 12:01 AM 6/10/1998 -0400, you wrote: > >Ira, and others: I have wondered about the "!" for a long time. In >several GEDCOM files that I have imported into CFT, each entry in the Notes >for each person is preceded by this pesky exclamation point. Does anyone >know why this symbol is used, what was its original purpose? It sure is a >nuisance to go through thousands of Notes and remove the danged thing. > >SgtGeorge > Ira and George - Straight from the PAF Manual: "Tagged Notes - A tag is a label that you put at the beginning of a note to classify it as being a certain type or on a certain topic. A tag can be any letter, word, phrase, or code, up to 25 characters. It may or not be capitalized, and it may or may not be followed by a colon." "To make notes that will be printed when you print family group records, type an exclamation point as the first character in the note (or tag). Do not leave a space after the exclamation point. When you print family group notes, the exclamation point will not be printed." Almost every note of mine in PAF had an exclamation point in front of it. As I recall, the entire note to the end of the paragraph would be printed. Ed Blakeley Ed Blakeley

At 06:53 PM 6/9/1998 -0500, you wrote: > >What was the ! supposed to be for? All Notes (even if it has a !) should >get imported to CFT-Win notes. Perhaps a snip (few lines) from your GED >file posted here may help me better understand. > >Ira > Ira - As I remember, the ! before each note indicated it would be printed with family group sheets etc. Ed Blakeley

>I have again checked and if I select someone who I know has NO Note it still >shows an asterisk and a Grey page. In other words I CANNOT add a note to >anyone in Beta3. "GREY" page on a NOTE means that the TX OCX did not register! Need to exit the program and then try this from the Start Button - Run: c:\cftw3\regsvr32 c:\cftw3\tx4ole.ocx You should get a "successfully registered" message. If not it didn't work. I now wonder if this is the cause of the missing icons for everyone else. Perhaps none of these people have the TX OCX proplery registered? Those without the icons, can you verify? >BTW - I now see the link between the Highlighted Individual -> KEY -> Family >Group to move through the branches of the tree. I must admit that I was not >aware of the ability to make other individuals the KEY via the "Tree >ICON" -> Double Click (on individual) Better yet, use the POPU-Up menu on the right mouse click. Right Mouse click now does lots of things in many of the windows. >It was probably in the HELP file but I have missed it! Have just tried to >find such a procedure but still cannot find it (but it is also very good)! No HELP available for Ver 3 beta. - except here on the Mailing List :-) Ira ---------------------------------------------------------- Ira J. Lund Cumberland Family Software, Clarksville, Tennessee, USA Genealogy Software for Beginners and Professionals E-mail: ira.lund@cf-software.com http://www.cf-software.com

>the tx4ole.ocx did register, it's the other one, (vspell32.ocx that did not >register, I got a message ("c:\cftw\vspell32.ocx") failed. GetLastError >returns 0x00000485. However it does not appear to have prevented the program >working. As long as you don't try to spell check a note then all will be fine. My guess on the failure - add a "3" - as in "c:\cftw3\regsvr32 c:\cftw3\vspell32.ocx" >One other thing, I do not see any icons in the spaces between MARR and SEX >although I have notes and photos attached to several individuals. Any ideas >anyone. Several people have said this but I have no idea whatsoever the cause of this. I wonder if it is due to screen resolution or something? But that doesn't make sense either. Ira ---------------------------------------------------------- Ira J. Lund Cumberland Family Software, Clarksville, Tennessee, USA Genealogy Software for Beginners and Professionals E-mail: ira.lund@cf-software.com http://www.cf-software.com

>In PAF you use an exclamation point (!) in your notes. > >So I have typed in all records with a note e.g. > >1 NOTE ! OCCUPATION: Supervisor from 1984 - 1989; Manager 1989 - >1 CONT ! RELIGION: op 8 jarige leeftijd R.K. geworden. >1 CONT ! BAPTISM: gedoopt in de kerk in Haarlem >1 CONT !Note: In de "Vlaamse Stam", nummer 99, van december 1997 staat ...... (etc) All of that will get transfered to CFT-Win notes and there is no way to automatically change the Occupation, relighion, baptism to CFT-Win events. You will simply have to do this manually. Ira ---------------------------------------------------------- Ira J. Lund Cumberland Family Software, Clarksville, Tennessee, USA Genealogy Software for Beginners and Professionals E-mail: ira.lund@cf-software.com http://www.cf-software.com

>>2. Family group. >>I do NOT see any Icons at all on my screen. >>I have checked that the person has Note and Source. >>He also has adopted Parents. >>5. Edit Individual. >>Again I see no Icons at all on my screen. > >It seems that I have heard others say something similar. Is there anyone >out there who is getting icons? I can't figure out why they would not >appear on the screen. The icons get compiled right into the program itself >and look just fine on my computer. > >Confirm ICONS showing up correctly on my ver 3.0 >Rgds Well, at least one person sees them. I am certainly having a hard time understanding why some people do not. This just totally baffles me. Ira ---------------------------------------------------------- Ira J. Lund Cumberland Family Software, Clarksville, Tennessee, USA Genealogy Software for Beginners and Professionals E-mail: ira.lund@cf-software.com http://www.cf-software.com

>The point I was trying to make was that the merge document function >within CFT document editor did not work. The docs being merged were all >in my CFT data base and were listed by document editor. Ahh - okay. I see what you are trying to do. That's not what a merge document does. The "Merge" in Documents works the same as the "Merge" in place name, misc data, etc - ie: It changes any references (source references) within all events and individuals to point to the Primary Document (rather than Secondary Document) and then deletes the Secondary. It does not try to combine the information of the secondary into the primary, any more than a secondary place name gets combined with the primary place name. Ira ---------------------------------------------------------- Ira J. Lund Cumberland Family Software, Clarksville, Tennessee, USA Genealogy Software for Beginners and Professionals E-mail: ira.lund@cf-software.com http://www.cf-software.com

At 06:45 PM 6/9/1998 -0500, you wrote: >>2. Family group. >>I do NOT see any Icons at all on my screen. >>I have checked that the person has Note and Source. >>He also has adopted Parents. >>5. Edit Individual. >>Again I see no Icons at all on my screen. > >It seems that I have heard others say something similar. Is there anyone >out there who is getting icons? I can't figure out why they would not >appear on the screen. The icons get compiled right into the program itself >and look just fine on my computer. > Ira - I don't get any icons for Notes and Source. The area is blank. If the cursor is on an event, if disappears in the area where those columns are. Ed Blakeley PS - Also on the attach source dialog box, there are no icons or labels on the buttons which obviously are to attach or cancel the source.

>>Yes after installing I tried to register the two OCX's and got the same >>error messages, however there does not appear to be a problem as the program >>appears to be working fine. > >If the tx4ole.ocx did not register then going to a note will likely lock up >the computer. > >Ira > >---------------------------------------------------------- > Ira J. Lund > Cumberland Family Software, Clarksville, Tennessee, USA > Genealogy Software for Beginners and Professionals > E-mail: ira.lund@cf-software.com > http://www.cf-software.com > Ira and All the tx4ole.ocx did register, it's the other one, (vspell32.ocx that did not register, I got a message ("c:\cftw\vspell32.ocx") failed. GetLastError returns 0x00000485. However it does not appear to have prevented the program working. One other thing, I do not see any icons in the spaces between MARR and SEX although I have notes and photos attached to several individuals. Any ideas anyone. Ian Marson Email: ian@marson.force9.co.uk Web Site: http://www.marson.force9.co.uk/home.html ICQ Pager: http://wwp.mirabilis.com/1399353 -----Original Message----- From: Ira J. Lund <ira.lund@cf-software.com> To: CFT-WIN-L@rootsweb.com <CFT-WIN-L@rootsweb.com> Date: 09 June 1998 03:20 Subject: Re: Can't Install CFT3 BETA

1. Regarding the missing icons, they DO NOT show on my screen either. 2. The Global Search and Change Key Individual buttons are not functioning. They can be depressed by mouse click, however, the dialog doesn't open, making navigation difficult. These functions are also not available off the menu. 3. Also, not available off the menu are: Relationship Calendar, Database Verification, Rebuild Key Files. Page Setup, Printer Setup, Print Reports. RTF, HTML, etc. also not available from Publish. That's all for now. Hope Ira or the list can provide some help. I certainly don't want to download the beta yet another time! STEVEN J. FROME Glen Cove, NY E-Mail: sfrome@juno.com or sfrome@aol.com Home Page: http://members.aol.com/sfrome _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

Ira, What I mean is the follow: In PAF you use an exclamation point (!) in your notes. So I have typed in all records with a note e.g. 1 NOTE ! OCCUPATION: Supervisor from 1984 - 1989; Manager 1989 - 1 CONT ! RELIGION: op 8 jarige leeftijd R.K. geworden. 1 CONT ! BAPTISM: gedoopt in de kerk in Haarlem 1 CONT !Note: In de "Vlaamse Stam", nummer 99, van december 1997 staat op bl 1 CONC adzijde 223 een stamreeks van Johannes Marinus Heijboer vermeld. Daar 1 CONC in staat vermeld: 1 CONT De geslachtsnaam Heijboer wordt in de doop- en trouwboeken van het ei 1 CONC land Tholen voor het eerst genoemd op 2 mei 1627 bij de doop te Stave 1 CONC nisse van Cornelia, dochter van Willem Mattheus en Maeyken Heyboers. 1 CONT De doop- en trouwboeken van St. Maartensdijk vermelden de naam voor h 1 CONC et eerst in 1666 toen Willem, de zoon van Mattheus Willemsen Heyboe 1 CONC r en Magdalena Cornelissen Logiersen werd gedoopt. 1 CONT Bovengenoemden woonden zeer waarschijnlijk in de Noordpolder in de Ve 1 CONC ldhoek De Hoge Heye. Dit was ook de naam van een hofstede, die daar s 1 CONC tond en rond 1835 werd afgebroken (mededeling A.W. Kloet). 1 CONT Deze veldhoek bestond volgens 18de eeuwse overlopers geheel uit vrone 1 CONC n, d.w.z. gronden waarvoor minder of geen polderlasten werden betaald 1 CONC , van het kroondomein. Dr. P.J. Meertens vermeldt in Zeeuwse Familien 1 CONC amen, blz. 84 dat de naam Heyde in Zeeland veel voorkomt. Hij is me 1 CONC t A. Scherpenisse (over de naam en het begrip Hayman, Archief Zeeuwsc 1 CONC h Genootschap 1938, blz. 124) van mening, dat heyde in Zeeland de bet 1 CONC ekenis heeft van al het land dat niet in de polder lag, maar ook gee 1 CONC n gors of schor was, zoals duinen, geestgronden en andere hoge gronde 1 CONC n. De vronen van de Hoge Heyde en de woonplaats van de Heyboers (bero 1 CONC epsnaam) sluiten hier goed op aan. 1 CONT 1 CONT Sorry for the Dutch language but these are some of the TAG 's I have used. Maybe you now understand what I mean with how can I convert this to CFTW. In CFTW you have the options to type this. In PAF there were and are no options to do this. I hope it is understandable. Rob http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Rob_Hubert

-----Original Message----- From: Ira J. Lund [mailto:ira.lund@cf-software.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 1998 1:46 AM To: CFT-WIN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: CFTW3 Beta1 >2. Family group. >I do NOT see any Icons at all on my screen. >I have checked that the person has Note and Source. >He also has adopted Parents. >5. Edit Individual. >Again I see no Icons at all on my screen. It seems that I have heard others say something similar. Is there anyone out there who is getting icons? I can't figure out why they would not appear on the screen. The icons get compiled right into the program itself and look just fine on my computer. Confirm ICONS showing up correctly on my ver 3.0 Rgds Jens Fleinert

G'day , I am still trying to find the "icons" that should appear between MARR and SEX and so far have found NONE. I thought I would try to add some notes to the v 2.30 DB that I had opened in the BETA. Without looking at EVERY entry it would appear that ALL have an asterisk on the NOTES tab even when they have nothing AND those that did have Note SHOW nothing. As an example. In 2.30 - If I "edit" my Marriage entry it shows "Edit a [MARR] Event for Michael Calder" with a Note and a Source. In the same DB opened under Beta3 - If I "edit" my Marriage entry it just shows "Edit Event" and the Note is blank BUT the pane in which an entry would appear or be entered is all GREY, there is still a Source in the new layout. I have again checked and if I select someone who I know has NO Note it still shows an asterisk and a Grey page. In other words I CANNOT add a note to anyone in Beta3. Pictures available on request! :-) BTW - I now see the link between the Highlighted Individual -> KEY -> Family Group to move through the branches of the tree. I must admit that I was not aware of the ability to make other individuals the KEY via the "Tree ICON" -> Double Click (on individual) It was probably in the HELP file but I have missed it! Have just tried to find such a procedure but still cannot find it (but it is also very good)! HURU, Mike

Ira J. Lund wrote: > > >2. Family group. > >I do NOT see any Icons at all on my screen. > >I have checked that the person has Note and Source. > >He also has adopted Parents. > >5. Edit Individual. > >Again I see no Icons at all on my screen. > > It seems that I have heard others say something similar. Is there anyone > out there who is getting icons? I can't figure out why they would not > appear on the screen. The icons get compiled right into the program itself > and look just fine on my computer. > No icons on my screen. Just a blank space, which does not turn blue when the line is selected. Regards Gale

At 07:53 PM 6/9/98 , Ira J. Lund wrote: >>I was a PAF user and have made my notes into PAF with the ! before each >>TAG. The PAF file has 14097 RINs and 5097 MRINs. By using CFT I start with >>a new file so my question to you is how can I change the NOTES from PAF to >>the regular GEDCOM TAG for use in CFT without changing the complete GEDCOM >>file by hand. > >What was the ! supposed to be for? All Notes (even if it has a !) should >get imported to CFT-Win notes. Perhaps a snip (few lines) from your GED >file posted here may help me better understand. Ira, and others: I have wondered about the "!" for a long time. In several GEDCOM files that I have imported into CFT, each entry in the Notes for each person is preceded by this pesky exclamation point. Does anyone know why this symbol is used, what was its original purpose? It sure is a nuisance to go through thousands of Notes and remove the danged thing. SgtGeorge