Hello again everybody! I'm sorry ... that last message was my first attempt to contribute to the discussion ... I usually just read and benefit from what everyone else has to say ... I forgot to sign that last message... thanks everyone for your patience ... Cheryl Trapp Boyd ctboyd@aol.com http://members.aol.com/ctboyd/index.htm

Here's what I did ... my images have file names where the first character is f or i for individual or family ... the next five are the individual's irn or the family's frn ... for individuals the seventh character is f if it is a facial portriat o for other for families the seventh character is g for group photo c for couple etc the last character the 8th is a number so that I can have up to ten portraits of each person by this system ... I store all of them in pcx format (greyscale) 2 inches high and about 150 dpi ... I have over 900 images attached to families and individuals in my database so far

Since I just got a scanner I am ready to add pictures to my database. Any advice on the best way to organize them? Mr.T (Tracy Schell) from The Sunshine State. Visit my Homepage at: http://bbs.mpcs.com/~tschell Also visit my churches webpage at: http://www.geocities.com/~ncccfl My Sports Card Page: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Acres/4995

I have volunteered to help Ann CONAWAY find someone who can look at some photographs and give advice on the time periods of the pictures. In order to help her out, I have scanned the photos she sent me and have placed them on a web page so anyone who thinks they might be able to help can see them. If we have any "time period" or "costume" experts out there, would you mind having a look and see if you can help. The URL for the web site is: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~george/annconaway.html Ann's email address is: cconaway@infohwy.com The photos were found in an album belonging to Flossie CRAIG LAND, who was Ann's aunt. Flossie lived from 1880 to 1921 and her mother's name was Margaret Elizabeth THOMAS CRAIG ADAM. Margaret lived from 1861 to 1924. Flossie's father was Samuel T. CRAIG, and he lived from 1847 to 1886. The people in the photos may have been family, in-laws, or just friends. The album had been stored away in a trunk for decades and had been forgotten about until Ann started her genealogy research. What Ann is hoping for is for some user who is knowledgeable about costume design and can tell her approximately WHEN the pictures were made. This will give her a start in identifying the time period. She needs to find out approximately which decade of the 1800's or 1900's each picture was made. She says that for someone to actually recognize any of them would be a miracle. The photos are of people from Estill, Mercer, and Madison Counties, KY, and their names could have been LAND, CRAIG, THOMAS, or ADAMS. They might even be from Butler County, OH, or Kiowa County, OK. Some of the pictures are in frames with the name of the photography shops where they were made: Grossman (name of shop), 12 North Main St., Dayton, OH H.C. Burton (name of shop), Chestnut St., Berea, KY Sorry for bothering all of you, but I just figured this is what genealogy mailing lists are all about -- helping others. If you have any comments to make about this posting, please do not send it back to the List -- send me a private email. SgtGeorge Listowner

On Tue, 14 Jul 1998 07:41:28 -0500, "Ira J. Lund" <ira.lund@cf-software.com> penned this message: >>I ran the DOS version under Windows 95 and when you run it in a >>Windows box and hit the copy icon a cursor appears. You can then take >>the cursor and highlight anything on the screen and it will copy it. >>Know what I mean now? > >Yup, I know what you mean now. But that is a function of Windows 95 - not >CFT-Pro. Luckily the Snagit program will duplicate this quite nicely... Mr.T (Tracy Schell) from The Sunshine State. Visit my Homepage at: http://bbs.mpcs.com/~tschell Also visit my churches webpage at: http://www.geocities.com/~ncccfl My Sports Card Page: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Acres/4995

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>Btw Ira, nice job on this WIN95 version. Had I known how much better the >Windows version of CFT is over the DOS ver., I would have upgraded my OS >years ago. Thanks for a great program. Thanks for the compliments! Ira ---------------------------------------------------------- Ira J. Lund Cumberland Family Software, Clarksville, Tennessee, USA Genealogy Software for Beginners and Professionals E-mail: ira.lund@cf-software.com http://www.cf-software.com

At 11:15 AM 7/17/98 -0500, you wrote: >Ira - How about an extra line in User Information for an email address? >Ed Blakeley Sounds fine. I'll try to put it in Ver 3. Ira ---------------------------------------------------------- Ira J. Lund Cumberland Family Software, Clarksville, Tennessee, USA Genealogy Software for Beginners and Professionals E-mail: ira.lund@cf-software.com http://www.cf-software.com

Fri, 17 Jul 1998 13:54:32 -0500, Greg Tomerlin : >I am enjoying learning and using CFTW, but I cannot stop the "Fonts >Warning!" from appearing when I start the program. Every time I start the >program, the "Fonts Installed" dialog box appears stating that the "Fonts >were copied to Font Directory." I press OK, then the "LUND FONTS >Installation Warning!" appears. All four of the Lund*.ttf fonts are >present in the c:\windows\fonts subdirectory, and I have double-clicked them >as Ira suggests. > >What should I do next? I think I have the final solution to the fonts problem. For one reason or another some fonts - not only the four Lund fonts - will not install properly. I think it has with later versions of Windows 95 to do. You might install the Lund fonts the following way: 1. From the Start-menu choose Run. 2. Write Regedit and press enter. 3. Open the following Folders: -HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE -SOFTWARE -Microsoft -Windows -CurrentVersion -Fonts 4. From the Edit Menu (or right click) choose -New -String Value 5. Write Lund Sans Bold (True Type) 6. From the Edit Menu choose (the new Lund Sans Bold (True Type) should be highlighted) -Modify 7. Write Lundsb.ttf and press the OK button Now the first font is permanently installed. Repeat step 4 to 7 for the other three fonts like this: 4. From the Edit Menu (or right click) choose -New -String Value 5. Write Lund Sans Normal (True Type) 6. From the Edit Menu choose (the new Lund Sans Normal (True Type) should be highlighted) -Modify 7. Write Lunds.ttf and press the OK button 4. From the Edit Menu (or right click) choose -New -String Value 5. Write Lund SansNarrow Normal (True Type) 6. From the Edit Menu choose (the new Lund SansNarrow Normal (True Type) should be highlighted) -Modify 7. Write Lundsn.ttf and press the OK button 4. From the Edit Menu (or right click) choose -New -String Value 5. Write Lund SansNarrow Bold (True Type) 6. From the Edit Menu choose (the new Lund SansNarrow Bold (True Type) should be highlighted) -Modify 7. Write Lundsnb.ttf and press the OK button Regards Sigurd Eliassen Norway

I solved the Font Warning problem by deleting the Lund*.ttf files in the windows\fonts subdirectory, then re-installed them, THEN rebooted before attempting to run CFTWin. Voila! No Font Warning. Now, how do I get CFTW to search for my ancestors while I sleep? I can't seem to get that feature working. In fact, I can't even find the button for it. Btw Ira, nice job on this WIN95 version. Had I known how much better the Windows version of CFT is over the DOS ver., I would have upgraded my OS years ago. Thanks for a great program. Greg Tomerlin Lebanon, TN greg.tomerlin@nashville.com http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Ridge/5142/

I am enjoying learning and using CFTW, but I cannot stop the "Fonts Warning!" from appearing when I start the program. Every time I start the program, the "Fonts Installed" dialog box appears stating that the "Fonts were copied to Font Directory." I press OK, then the "LUND FONTS Installation Warning!" appears. All four of the Lund*.ttf fonts are present in the c:\windows\fonts subdirectory, and I have double-clicked them as Ira suggests. What should I do next? Thanks, Greg Tomerlin Lebanon, TN greg.tomerlin@nashville.com http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Ridge/5142/

Ira - How about an extra line in User Information for an email address? Ed Blakeley

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>>a problem occured when splitting database in CFT ver 2.29. > >Not repeating the long explanation you gave, but I wonder if something was >messed up with this family in the original database - before you did the >split. You might make sure to run the Rebuild on the original and then >double check that this family looks fine before splitting off. > >If still a problem then maybe something there that needs looking into. > >Ira I checked initial database - there was no problem, all records all right too. Probably some data were corrupted, but dont worry about it now. I did the splitting manually, thanks it was really small. Now everything seems OK. Thanks Petr

>I can confirm that I also experienced a similar problem about a month ago. >At first I thought it was a quirk of my data, until I discovered that it had >passed through several generations of GEDCOM exports and subsequent imports >as I moved data around between databases. > >The problem was noticed when I read the GEDCOM into an external utility >program, as the misplaced MARR tag caused some confusion in the program. >After contacting the author of the program, he updated it to highlight such >entries, and advised that the genealogy program he used checked for >anomolies like this one. > >I do not think that CFTW created the problem, but it certainly passes it on. >In my case the MARR tag occurred within the 0 @I individual records, not the >0 @F family ones. A MARR tag within an INDIVIDUAL record is incorrect. But the excerpt Max showed was not this particular problem. Ira ---------------------------------------------------------- Ira J. Lund Cumberland Family Software, Clarksville, Tennessee, USA Genealogy Software for Beginners and Professionals E-mail: ira.lund@cf-software.com http://www.cf-software.com

At 10:01 AM 7/14/98 +0200, you wrote: >GEDCOM export from CFTW (I use ver 2.31x) produces (and did the same in >older versions) a MARR line where it apparently shouldn't be. (I found out >because a Gedcom into HTML converter showed a warning concerning the MARR >tag and showed only part of the files) > >Excerpt (first MARR in file): > >......... >1 FAMS @F003941@ >0 @F000001@ FAM >1 HUSB @I000001@ >1 WIFE @I000002@ >1 CHIL @I000003@ >1 ENGA >2 DATE 14 JUL 1968 >2 NOTE Description: (etc) >2 QUAY 0 >1 MARR >2 DATE 23 JUL 1971 >2 PLAC Grèafelfing >2 NOTE Description: (etc) >....... > >When I import into another genealogical program and export it again the >first MARR line in file looks apparently fine (like this): > >............ >0 @F1@ FAM >1 HUSB @I1@ >1 WIFE @I2@ >1 CHIL @I3@ >1 MARR >2 DATE 23 JUL 1971 >2 PLAC Gräfelfing >2 QUAY 3 >0 @F2@ FAM >....... > >As I have no clue how GEDCOM really works, is there anybody of our experts >on this list who could comment. There is nothing wrong with the first GED excerpt shown. My guess is that the HTML converter program doesn't recognize the ENGA tag and was upset with it and subsequent data dealing with the engagement record. Since CFT-Win can use such a variety of events I have found that some programs don't recognize many valid events other than simpe birth, christening, marriage, death, burial events. Ira ---------------------------------------------------------- Ira J. Lund Cumberland Family Software, Clarksville, Tennessee, USA Genealogy Software for Beginners and Professionals E-mail: ira.lund@cf-software.com http://www.cf-software.com

>a problem occured when splitting database in CFT ver 2.29. > >I wanted to create separeted databases for some of other trees, contained in >main database. It was OK for most trees but one. Not repeating the long explanation you gave, but I wonder if something was messed up with this family in the original database - before you did the split. You might make sure to run the Rebuild on the original and then double check that this family looks fine before splitting off. If still a problem then maybe something there that needs looking into. Ira ---------------------------------------------------------- Ira J. Lund Cumberland Family Software, Clarksville, Tennessee, USA Genealogy Software for Beginners and Professionals E-mail: ira.lund@cf-software.com http://www.cf-software.com

>It took almost 6 hours for Cumberland to read and open the gedcom. It was >painstakenly slow... This is normal. My GEDCOM import routine is quite slow. >Also it did not pick up all the children in one of my families. It had them >all in the individual list, but stopped at 5 children for that marriage when >my FTM file had 9 children. I then spent about an hour playing with >correcting this. Although the missing children were in the database and had >no parents listed(it had "add parent") when I would try to connect that >child I would get a response that the child already had parents. Drove me >crazy. I just then made up a parent and added it, then disconected it, then >connected the child to the right parents. Two things: 1. First I would make sure I had the latest v2.31 CFT-Win which has fixed some GED import bugs. 2. There may be links that are not correct in the GED file. I have run across flaky GED files before that are not correct. Don't know if you are familiar with GED file structure but a visual look (edit) of the GED file can often give a clue here. Since I am unfamiliar wiht having fixed any such bug I suspect something in the GED - but I always leave myself open in case there really is a problem. Because the children did have some invisible parent attached your method of correction was the best idea. >Also, when you make a mistake(I have been known to make a few) you are stuck >with it. There is often no "cancel" button on some of the dialog boxes. Correct. No cancel. Have to delete a person if incorrectly added. >Now for the good part. Although I am just beginning to use the program, I >love the tree displays. Wish there were a "print" box option. The tree is called a Pedigree in the printed reports and the Box Pedigree is quite close to the on-screen Tree. You might look at that. Thanks, Ira ---------------------------------------------------------- Ira J. Lund Cumberland Family Software, Clarksville, Tennessee, USA Genealogy Software for Beginners and Professionals E-mail: ira.lund@cf-software.com http://www.cf-software.com

>I ran the DOS version under Windows 95 and when you run it in a >Windows box and hit the copy icon a cursor appears. You can then take >the cursor and highlight anything on the screen and it will copy it. >Know what I mean now? Yup, I know what you mean now. But that is a function of Windows 95 - not CFT-Pro. Ira ---------------------------------------------------------- Ira J. Lund Cumberland Family Software, Clarksville, Tennessee, USA Genealogy Software for Beginners and Professionals E-mail: ira.lund@cf-software.com http://www.cf-software.com