I am currently using CFT Win 1.05 and am not sure if I should up grade. This version seems to do all that I need but if you don't know what your missing then how can you decide Direct down load to Email would be nice. Any comments would be appreciated -- Derek Dingledine Ontario Canada Derek.Dingledine@sympatico.ca Searching for All Dingeldein/Dingledine In USA and Canada

> Does anyone know of a truly Win95/98 or 32-bit program of Genealogy Software?? >I would like a Win95 program that can handle PAF 3.0 family files. Thanks. Yes, Cumberland Family Tree for Windows 95 is a 32-bit program. It does not handle PAF 3.0 files directly. However, you can transfer your data from PAF to CFT-Win using GEDCOM. I do not know if there are other truly 32-bit genealogy programs on the market, although I woudl think there are. Ira ---------------------------------------------------------- Ira J. Lund Cumberland Family Software, Clarksville, Tennessee, USA Genealogy Software for Beginners and Professionals E-mail: ira.lund@cf-software.com http://www.cf-software.com

Friends, Does anyone know of a truly Win95/98 or 32-bit program of Genealogy Software?? I would like a Win95 program that can handle PAF 3.0 family files. Thanks. -eddie "I disagree with what you say, but I won't get in the way if someone wants to kill you over it."

I guess I've been lucky with CFTW. I have never had a FREEZE UP, even using the older version 2.23. It may be because I've really just started and don't have that much in it. I have been using Win 95 (latest version) and am now using version 2.32. -----Original Message----- From: Scott H. Phillips <scottp@hal-pc.org> To: CFT-WIN-L@rootsweb.com <CFT-WIN-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Thursday, October 08, 1998 9:44 AM Subject: Re: BACKUP >Using ver 2.32, you get the ERROR message after about 2 backups using >Normal Backup. >By the way, no FREEZE UP using ver 2.32 and Win 95 [latest version]. > >At 06:20 PM 10/8/98 -0500, you wrote: >>At 11:06 PM 10/7/98 -0400, you wrote: >>>I am still having a problem with the "backup" feature in Win 95. I still get >>>the 160 error code. Is it necessary to delete the backup ZIP file each time >>>a backup is done? It seems that this is the only way I can back up my files. >> >>I thought this error was fixed in one of the recent updates. Are you using >>Ver 2.32? If not download it from my web site and see if that fixes the >>problem. If not tell me whether you get this error on the Auto-Backup or >>the Normal Backup. >> >>Ira >> >>---------------------------------------------------------- >> Ira J. Lund >> Cumberland Family Software, Clarksville, Tennessee, USA >> Genealogy Software for Beginners and Professionals >> E-mail: ira.lund@cf-software.com >> http://www.cf-software.com >> >> >>==== CFT-WIN Mailing List ==== >>To unsubscribe from CFT-WIN, send an e-mail message to: >> CFT-WIN-L-request@rootsweb.com (for individual messages) >> CFT-WIN-D-request@rootsweb.com (for Digest mode) >>Subject: unsubscribe >>In the body include only one word: unsubscribe >>(Turn OFF your signature file when sending this command) >> > >

I am using version 2.32 on Win 95. This happens when I try to use the "Auto-Backup". (what is the "Normal Back-up" you refer to?) Here are the steps I go thru for a backup: 1. After making my entries and I am finished working on these I click on "file". 2. Then click "close database". This gives me; Error 160: (or 280 sometimes) Backup Was Unsuccessful. 3. I then click on "close" (with-in the "automatic Database Backup" window) 4. This takes me to the CFT Database Window where I click on "Backup". 5. This takes me to "Backup, Select Backup Database & Destination". 6. I then click on "Select". 7. This takes me to "Select Destination Backup File". 8. I then select "Folder" and click "OK". 9. I then get a caution window saying "This file already exists. Do you want to replace it?" I click "Yes". 10. This takes me to "Select Destination Backup File" where I click on "Backup". 11. I then get the "Overwrite" window which tells me the previous file already exists. 12. I then click "Yes" and the backup finally is completed. Thanks for any help! Dave -----Original Message----- From: Ira J. Lund <ira.lund@cf-software.com> To: CFT-WIN-L@rootsweb.com <CFT-WIN-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Thursday, October 08, 1998 9:30 AM Subject: Re: BACKUP >At 11:06 PM 10/7/98 -0400, you wrote: >>I am still having a problem with the "backup" feature in Win 95. I still get >>the 160 error code. Is it necessary to delete the backup ZIP file each time >>a backup is done? It seems that this is the only way I can back up my files. > >I thought this error was fixed in one of the recent updates. Are you using >Ver 2.32? If not download it from my web site and see if that fixes the >problem. If not tell me whether you get this error on the Auto-Backup or >the Normal Backup. > >Ira > >---------------------------------------------------------- > Ira J. Lund > Cumberland Family Software, Clarksville, Tennessee, USA > Genealogy Software for Beginners and Professionals > E-mail: ira.lund@cf-software.com > http://www.cf-software.com > > >==== CFT-WIN Mailing List ==== >To unsubscribe from CFT-WIN, send an e-mail message to: > CFT-WIN-L-request@rootsweb.com (for individual messages) > CFT-WIN-D-request@rootsweb.com (for Digest mode) >Subject: unsubscribe >In the body include only one word: unsubscribe >(Turn OFF your signature file when sending this command) > > > >

At 03:35 PM 10/8/1998 -0400, you wrote: >In a message dated 98-10-07 23:19:55 EDT, you write: > ><< Is it necessary to delete the backup ZIP file each time a backup is done? >>> > >Why not rename the backup zip file (fambu1.zip fambu2.zip fambu3.zip etc) >rather than delete it? It is good to keep several different backup zip files >of your data in case you discover a problem with either an individual record >within the data base (sometimes I accidentally wipe out a date, for example) >or with the entire database. I no longer have any problem with backups using the latest version (2.32 I think) in windows 98, it always asks on exiting the program if I want to back up, and does so if I say yes. However, the above may be a good idea for versions 3 or so. That is, in the initial setup, and subsequently, a user should be able to specify how many back up editions they would like to use. The system could then rotate and keep more than one version. Some other software applications, like Quicken, does this. Since I have other backup means for important and frequently changed files, my present response would be one. As you can see, the cautious (i.e. experienced) user may wish for more. My happiness level has often been marred by having one too few or too old a back up!

Using ver 2.32, you get the ERROR message after about 2 backups using Normal Backup. By the way, no FREEZE UP using ver 2.32 and Win 95 [latest version]. At 06:20 PM 10/8/98 -0500, you wrote: >At 11:06 PM 10/7/98 -0400, you wrote: >>I am still having a problem with the "backup" feature in Win 95. I still get >>the 160 error code. Is it necessary to delete the backup ZIP file each time >>a backup is done? It seems that this is the only way I can back up my files. > >I thought this error was fixed in one of the recent updates. Are you using >Ver 2.32? If not download it from my web site and see if that fixes the >problem. If not tell me whether you get this error on the Auto-Backup or >the Normal Backup. > >Ira > >---------------------------------------------------------- > Ira J. Lund > Cumberland Family Software, Clarksville, Tennessee, USA > Genealogy Software for Beginners and Professionals > E-mail: ira.lund@cf-software.com > http://www.cf-software.com > > >==== CFT-WIN Mailing List ==== >To unsubscribe from CFT-WIN, send an e-mail message to: > CFT-WIN-L-request@rootsweb.com (for individual messages) > CFT-WIN-D-request@rootsweb.com (for Digest mode) >Subject: unsubscribe >In the body include only one word: unsubscribe >(Turn OFF your signature file when sending this command) >

At 11:06 PM 10/7/98 -0400, you wrote: >I am still having a problem with the "backup" feature in Win 95. I still get >the 160 error code. Is it necessary to delete the backup ZIP file each time >a backup is done? It seems that this is the only way I can back up my files. I thought this error was fixed in one of the recent updates. Are you using Ver 2.32? If not download it from my web site and see if that fixes the problem. If not tell me whether you get this error on the Auto-Backup or the Normal Backup. Ira ---------------------------------------------------------- Ira J. Lund Cumberland Family Software, Clarksville, Tennessee, USA Genealogy Software for Beginners and Professionals E-mail: ira.lund@cf-software.com http://www.cf-software.com

In a message dated 98-10-07 23:19:55 EDT, you write: << Is it necessary to delete the backup ZIP file each time a backup is done? >> Why not rename the backup zip file (fambu1.zip fambu2.zip fambu3.zip etc) rather than delete it? It is good to keep several different backup zip files of your data in case you discover a problem with either an individual record within the data base (sometimes I accidentally wipe out a date, for example) or with the entire database. Doing this allows one the option of restoring the database to the state it was in at a time before the problem appeared or developed. Always restore from the most recent backup zip file first. Depending on the seriousness of the problem, iIf it turns out that the problem existed in that backup also you will be able to try restoring from the second most recent backup zip file and so on until you find one that is in good condition. (Remember the data processing parrot says: "back-it-up...back-it-up...back-it-up") Cheryl Trapp Boyd ctboyd@aol.com http://members.aol.com/ctboyd/index.htm

DAVE B. (by way of CFT-WIN Listowner ) wrote: > I am still having a problem with the "backup" feature in Win 95. I still get > the 160 error code. Is it necessary to delete the backup ZIP file each time > a backup is done? It seems that this is the only way I can back up my files. > > Thanks, > Dave Since using version 2.32 I have not had any problems. You do not say which version you use. If it is not the latest, I suggest that you upgrade Regadrs Gale

I am still having a problem with the "backup" feature in Win 95. I still get the 160 error code. Is it necessary to delete the backup ZIP file each time a backup is done? It seems that this is the only way I can back up my files. Thanks, Dave

Ira J. Lund wrote: > >It just dawned on me! It may be that users reporting most of these problems > >are still using the original installation and haven't upgraded with ANY of > the > >available updates. > > > >As I stated in the previous message, open Control Panel, then open System. > >If you see 4.00.950 and there is no "a" or "b" after that number, you have > not > >upgraded. You definitely need to download and install the updates. > > That theory fails with me. Mine does not have a or b and yet everything > works fine for me. > > Ira I now have about 20 people using CFTW on all sorts of Win 95 and Win 98 platforms. In two cases have they reported problems and these were easily fixed. Regards Gale

On Mon, 05 Oct 1998 18:42:58 -0500, Ira wrote: citation: >>As I stated in the previous message, open Control Panel, then open System. >>If you see 4.00.950 and there is no "a" or "b" after that number, >>you have not upgraded. >>You definitely need to download and install the updates. >That theory fails with me. Mine does not have a or b and yet everything >works fine for me. I am told that my version of Window95 is 4.00.1111 when I write "ver" in a DOS window. I never saw that version mentioned in this discussion. How many troubles can I expect?. Erik

George - I have a lot of stuff on mine and I have installed Win98. I have just as many crashes as before, but they are caused by different things. There seems to be certain operations in some of my programs that ALWAYS causes a crash. I have Lotus SmartSuite and if I click on the Font tab on the Properties dialog box for 1-2-3, it always crashes. I just haven't had time yet to check with Lotus about that. There may be a fix out by now. I think I am going to back up my stuff with a tape, reformat the hard drives and do a clean install of 98 and see if that helps.Reinstall the programs from the original disks and copy back the data files. Ed Blakeley George W. Durman wrote: > > If a user puts as much junk on his/her system as I have on mine, I can > GUARANTEE that there will be hangups, crashes, freeze-ups, etc. Then, > even though it won't make a complete cure, it is time to get those updated > files from the MS web site. > > I STILL can't get rid of ALL the crashes in EXPLORER.EXE caused by > .dll files from other programs. I have identified some of them as coming > from QuickTime, but I just CAN'T uninstall that program. I just keep > sitting here hoping that Apple will put out an upgrade to QT that takes > care of these problems. MS certainly isn't going to do it with Win95, > since Win98 is out. > > SgtGeorge

At 06:42 PM 10/5/98 -0500, you wrote: >>As I stated in the previous message, open Control Panel, then open System. >>If you see 4.00.950 and there is no "a" or "b" after that number, you have >not >>upgraded. You definitely need to download and install the updates. > >That theory fails with me. Mine does not have a or b and yet everything >works fine for me. Ah, but that's the beauty of Win95, Ira. The majority of version 4.00.950 users have never had any problems; however, depending on WHAT ELSE is installed on the system, some of the original .dll files give users fits. If a user puts as much junk on his/her system as I have on mine, I can GUARANTEE that there will be hangups, crashes, freeze-ups, etc. Then, even though it won't make a complete cure, it is time to get those updated files from the MS web site. I STILL can't get rid of ALL the crashes in EXPLORER.EXE caused by .dll files from other programs. I have identified some of them as coming from QuickTime, but I just CAN'T uninstall that program. I just keep sitting here hoping that Apple will put out an upgrade to QT that takes care of these problems. MS certainly isn't going to do it with Win95, since Win98 is out. SgtGeorge

Same here, Ira. I'm still at 4.00.950 also. I have kept my drivers, etc. up-to-date. Still works like a charm; as I said before, sometimes I feel left out of all the fun. Floyd E. Turner mailto:floydt@erinet.com ---------- [snip] > That theory fails with me. Mine does not have a or b and yet everything > works fine for me. > > Ira > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Ira J. Lund > Cumberland Family Software, Clarksville, Tennessee, USA > Genealogy Software for Beginners and Professionals > E-mail: ira.lund@cf-software.com > http://www.cf-software.com >

>It just dawned on me! It may be that users reporting most of these problems >are still using the original installation and haven't upgraded with ANY of the >available updates. > >As I stated in the previous message, open Control Panel, then open System. >If you see 4.00.950 and there is no "a" or "b" after that number, you have not >upgraded. You definitely need to download and install the updates. That theory fails with me. Mine does not have a or b and yet everything works fine for me. Ira ---------------------------------------------------------- Ira J. Lund Cumberland Family Software, Clarksville, Tennessee, USA Genealogy Software for Beginners and Professionals E-mail: ira.lund@cf-software.com http://www.cf-software.com

>CFTW: "32 Bit version 2.32x for Windows 95" (no claims for NT or Windows 98, eh?). Windows 95/98/NT all are 32-bit and CFT-Win95 should run fine on all them - BUT as you point out all these various versions confuse people and they don't know what works with what. perhaps I should put CFT-Win95/98/NT on my 32-bit version. Ira ---------------------------------------------------------- Ira J. Lund Cumberland Family Software, Clarksville, Tennessee, USA Genealogy Software for Beginners and Professionals E-mail: ira.lund@cf-software.com http://www.cf-software.com

Dear Ira, many thanks for the comprehensive response to my suggestions. Quite clearly, I haven't been using some of the features of the programme to their fullest potential! Also thanks you for saying you will try and improve the family chart facility in Version 3.best wishes, Moira I have a new e-mail address now, so I am unsubscribing at this address, but will re subscribe at my new address: mmforde@telinco.com

Hello group I'm still using 4.00.950 without any upgrades/patches and so on. I have no troubles with the LUND fonts - they work and caused no troubles when installing CFT, which I've don 2 - 3 times. My system freezes less than one a month - and I tell you it's being used hours a day for 2.5 years by now. regards Rolf -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: CFT-WIN Listowner <sgtgeorg@concentric.net> Til: CFT-WIN-L@rootsweb.com <CFT-WIN-L@rootsweb.com> Dato: 4. oktober 1998 03:09 Emne: Re: Versions of Windows 95 >At 07:20 AM 10/3/98 -0500, you wrote: >> >>Knowing this I wonder if users who report LUND font and OCX installation >>problems could report what version they are using, perhaps we could narrow >>it down that it is B version or maybe Win98 that is causing the problem? >> >It just dawned on me! It may be that users reporting most of these problems >are still using the original installation and haven't upgraded with ANY of the >available updates. > >As I stated in the previous message, open Control Panel, then open System. >If you see 4.00.950 and there is no "a" or "b" after that number, you have not >upgraded. You definitely need to download and install the updates. > >SgtGeorge >Listowner > > >==== CFT-WIN Mailing List ==== >To unsubscribe from CFT-WIN, send an e-mail message to: > CFT-WIN-L-request@rootsweb.com (for individual messages) > CFT-WIN-D-request@rootsweb.com (for Digest mode) >Subject: unsubscribe >In the body include only one word: unsubscribe >(Turn OFF your signature file when sending this command) > > >