Hi Ira and Gang As a longstanding computer user, I am still on Win 3.1 and propose to remain so until forced to upgrade due to software no longer being available. It is mainly developers and newbies who have Win 95/98 etc, at least here and in the UK - the US may be different. Win 3.1 is a great performer on a modern PC and is far more controllable without those irritating defaults that software writers wish on you. Also I don't want all the hassle of installing a new operating system unless I am forced to. On the other hand for my CFTW application, I doubt that I need much more functionality than offered by the old DOS or 16 bit versions. My 2 bob's worth. Simon Ira J. Lund wrote: > > It is quite a hassle to keep up with both 16 bit AND 32 bit versions of my > programs. I would like to drop the maintaining and updating of the 16-bit > version of CFT-Win (and UCC). I know this is not much of a formal survey, > but I was wondering how many out there are still with Win 3.1? > > CFT-Win Ver 3 will definately be 32-bit only (Windows 95/98/NT). But I am > beginning to consider dropping the 16-bit version NOW! > > Ira > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Ira J. Lund > Cumberland Family Software, Clarksville, Tennessee, USA > Genealogy Software for Beginners and Professionals > E-mail: ira.lund@cf-software.com > http://www.cf-software.com -- // VK2EII : Simon BUXTON, Sydney, Australia \\ // Email : sb@zip.com.au \\ // simon.buxton@workcover.nsw.gov.au \\ // Web Sites: <http://www.zip.com.au/~sb/w_hobby.htm> \\ // <http://www.zip.com.au/~sb/hec4.htm> \\ // <http://www.zip.com.au/~sb/wars> \\ // <http://www.zip.com.au/~sb/anars> \\

At 04:33 PM 10/25/98 GMT, you wrote: >I have some problems in using the two events Emigration and >Immigration in the right way. Allow me to point out that emmiration and immigration may not always refer to the same occurance, or even the same date. A person may have emmigrated from his native country, wandered through many places for several years, and only then immigrate to a new country for settlement. Such a case may jusify the term 'immigrated from' that would show a different country than that the one that same person 'emmigrated from'. \*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/ Yair Sachs The Hebrew University of Jerusalem Computation Center, Communication group sachs@cc.huji.ac.il Tel: office 972-2 - 6584484 fax " 6527349 home " 6438948 mobile 052 - 608073 /*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\

Hi! I had the same experience, but in my case the notes for the individual were written as a story (of course only when there are notes). I also tried to start the translation into Swedish and found that the Alt-C button only closes the window, no update is made. To update I have to use the mouse and click on the door. Bye Ulf Göransson Sweden mailto:ulf.goransson@mbox300.swipnet.se *************************** Dave Bennett wrote: Ira Just a few notes on Ver 3 Beta 2. I like the style keep up the good work. I have noted the following problems. 1. I can't get the story to work at all. It gives me a Please Wait message and then produces a blank screen. ------------<snip>

G'day Erik, -------------SNIP--------------------- >My problem is now which place is the right one to choose. --------------SNIP-------------------- > Emigrated to UTAH (he must of course come from Denmark) -------------------SNIP------------- >The Standard Events in CFTW however say the opposite, viz >he: > Emigrated from Denmark ------------SNIP------------------------ >What is right and what is wrong? --------------SNIP------------ You raise a valid point but I think the dictionary definitions clarify and reinforce the CFTW method:- emigrant - one who emigrates, as FROM a native land.... immigrant - one who or that immigrates, a person who migrates INTO a country..... I too have the same problem with a few extra "bells and whistles" as, not only did my ancestors "migrate" but my family have also travelled all over as part of their occupation living for several years in other countries. I suppose I could put ALL such comments in the "notes" but I have made a User Event:- Transport Mode (TRAN) - "name" travelled to "place" by "ship name/aircraft" This I use after EMIG to give the details of that voyage with any further expansion in the "notes" or on its own in the work related sense. HURU, Mike

Ira and All, Further comments on the wonderful effort so far: 1. Only a small portion of the place-names in my database was converted from v.2 to v.3. and I cannot explain the why or wherefore of it. A few examples follow: Place-names which begin with # in V.2 # in V.3 (actual #) (# converted) number 5 22 0 " 7 17 1 letter D 16 11 " K 19 16 " W 33 25 2. There's a lot of flashing of screens at start-up; it takes longer to settle down than v.2. 3. V.3 appears slower overall than v.2. One example is Global Search. I performed the same search in v.2 and v.3. The example was searching for the word "Barnard" in three categories, Individual Note, Place Name, and Event Note (the word appears three times in the DB). I did this twice to make sure of the timing. The result was that the search was performed correctly by v.2 in 3-1/2 min. and in v.3 in 16-1/2 min. Jon ______________________________ | | | EMQUAD International, Ltd. | | P.O. Box 60 | | Great Neck, NY 11022 | | - | | emquad@worldnet.att.net | | http://home.att.net/~emquad | | - | | Consulting Division | | Publishing Division | |______________________________|

At 08:38 AM 10/24/1998 -0500, you wrote: > Ver 1.00 > Ver 4.00 > Ver 5.00.1586.1 > >Ver 4 is the one that is being distributed with CFT-Win Ver 2 and Ver 3 >beta. Could someone with Windows 98 do a search on their system for >REGSVR32.EXE. Do a right click and go to Properties, the second tab will >show the version number. I'm especially curious as to the version number on >the one in c:\windows\system directory. > > > > >

Ira, Many major programs are now only available in 32 bit. For example, Quicken. I think you need to concentrate on going forward. You have done more than most to support your loyal install base of 16 and 32 bit users; But, your future revenue base is in the 32 bit arena. Hence, my suggestion is that unless a major bug is found in the 16bit program, you shouldn't release any new versions in it.                                          Sid Tolchinsky mailto:tolchins@cadvision.com http://www.cadvision.com/photos

I only downloaded CFT yesterday so still have things to find out. Three immediate questions are: 1. Is it possible to view the preview of reports in a larger font? I find it quite difficult to read them. I realise there is an enlargement button on the bottom line but that is definitely not enough. It is so unusual not to be able to zoom in. 2. In the standard event editor, what is the objective of the nine (E Li, E De, E Bo etc) 'things'? 3. In the window 'to select a source' there are the two panes. How/why is the second pane used? Tks for help June McDonald Canberra Australia

Hi Rolf and Ira, exactly the same with me! Beside my hightec desktop I use my 386sx win3.1 notebook for research when I travell. Sofar it would be a loss for me not having the 16bit version in future.... Rolf Carl schrieb: > Hi Ira > > This is quite understandable - use all your efforts to get the new ver 3. > I have the problem, that on my old portable pc (386sx, win 3.1) I am using > the 2.32 16 bit version. Ths pc I take along...

I am currently using CFT ver 1.5 and would like to try the new Beta version but the import function does not allow for an import of an earlier version import. Is there an other way of doing this. -- Derek Dingledine Ontario Canada Derek.Dingledine@sympatico.ca Searching for All Dingeldein/Dingledine In USA and Canada

I have some problems in using the two events Emigration and Immigration in the right way. They describe the same occurrence, but from opposite angles. Emigration is to my understanding related to the country the emigrant leaves and Immigration is related to the country he enters into. An example: The ancestor of Ira named Mogens Hans Lund was born in Denmark 1840 and went to UTAH in 1875. He thus: Emigrated to UTAH from Denmark in 1875 and he: Immigrated from Denmark into UTAH in 1875. I have no problems with the two statements above because they both tell not only the place from where he came but also the place where he went. In a gen-program or in Gedcom you have space for one place only, and therefore you have to choose which one of the two places you will indicate. My problem is now which place is the right one to choose. For an Emigrant I like to look at it from his homeland and I find it then most usefull to tell the place he emigrated to. Knowing that Mogens Hans Lund is born in Denmark I would then say that he: Emigrated to UTAH (he must of course come from Denmark) For an Immigrant I look at it from his new land and then the most usefull information is the place from where he came. Knowing that Mogens ended his life in USA I would say that he: Immigrated from Denmark (that he went to USA is obvious) The Standard Events in CFTW however say the opposite, viz he: Emigrated from Denmark and he Immigrated to UTAH. What is right and what is wrong? I can find no help to the answer in the Gedcom standard Erik

On Sat, 24 Oct 1998 18:41:26 -0500, Louise Smith wrote: >I don't use a mouse either, and I have the very same problem with the >key commands... The problem frequently occurs when I >hit <CTRL>+<L> or <CTRL>+<P> to move to the Location box or >Location list, when I attempt to access the Source screen and Source >List with <CTRL>+<S>, and most often when I attempt to close an >Edit screen with <CTRL>+<C>. I have the same problem from time to time, but not consistently. I have never been able to find out why it only appears periodically. I also find it annoying. Erik

Hi Ira This is quite understandable - use all your efforts to get the new ver 3. I have the problem, that on my old portable pc (386sx, win 3.1) I am using the 2.32 16 bit version. Ths pc I take along to my summerhouse so maybe you could secure an import-feature together with a merge-function - so I can continue to enter data when I'm relaxing in the summerhouse and be able to merge with the database when I return home to my win95 computer .- that would solve my problem. greetings Rolf -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: Ira J. Lund <ira.lund@cf-software.com> Til: CFT-WIN-L@rootsweb.com <CFT-WIN-L@rootsweb.com> Dato: 24. oktober 1998 14:42 Emne: Windows 95/98/NT vs Windows 3.1 >It is quite a hassle to keep up with both 16 bit AND 32 bit versions of my >programs. I would like to drop the maintaining and updating of the 16-bit >version of CFT-Win (and UCC). I know this is not much of a formal survey, >but I was wondering how many out there are still with Win 3.1? > >CFT-Win Ver 3 will definately be 32-bit only (Windows 95/98/NT). But I am >beginning to consider dropping the 16-bit version NOW! > >Ira > >---------------------------------------------------------- > Ira J. Lund > Cumberland Family Software, Clarksville, Tennessee, USA > Genealogy Software for Beginners and Professionals > E-mail: ira.lund@cf-software.com > http://www.cf-software.com >

At 11:17 AM 10/25/1998 +0100, you wrote: >Ira, I support your dropping the Win 3.1 version. I took a long time myself >before switching to Win95, but everything has its time, and in this business >it is quite short. The problem today is when and if to switch to Win98, to >Win NT, or wait a little longer. I have recently upgraded my windows 95 (first version) to windows 98 and find the installation very smooth and worth the price. I get many fewer crashes and hang ups, and CFTW works at least as well. It does eat about 100Mb more of your hard drive, and does some more things that are not wanted. I have pruned some of the extras that I don't want or need to save space.These are easy to do so long as you stay within their menus. My policy has always been to use software other than Microsoft's for my applications when possible. The only software that was obsoleted was my Norton Navigator, which had some features that are no longer needed. NN is no longer supported and is not supposed to work on win98. However, once you delete its quick launch directories and put your icons on the win98 area, all works ok. I continue to use their multiple tabletops, though the multiple users is likely cleaner and does not interfere with their "My briefcase." The only software I have had to upgrade was that for my tape Seagate (Conners) backup unit. I would recommend that you not worry about upgrading to win98. They include a way to go back to win95, which I recommend . It stores the win95 system, which you can keep for a few weeks until you are comfortable that all your applications will continue to work ok. I assume it would do the same for 3.1. I have windows NT 4.0 workstation which came with our office machine (no CFTW there) and it works ok, but I can't see the big deal about it other than the fact that it has never crashed in the month we have had it. It seems to take longer to boot up and If you are contemplating NT, our computer support people recommend waiting for 5.0, which is presently yet in beta test. So far, I would prefer windows 98 to NT. NT does have some "security" that makes it a little harder for multiple users to mess with each other files, but these are easy to get around. It may be that the NT server is better, but I have no experience there. NT takes more system fussing around and I believe more hard drive. ________________________________________________________________________ Joseph Cain cain@quartz.gly.fsu.edu (850) 644-4014 (office) FAX (850) 644-4214 (850) 385-0227 (residence) http://geomag.gfdi.fsu.edu/~cain

Ira, I support your dropping the Win 3.1 version. I took a long time myself before switching to Win95, but everything has its time, and in this business it is quite short. The problem today is when and if to switch to Win98, to Win NT, or wait a little longer. Your time is spent best on maintaining the present 32 bit version (ver 2.xx) - and on the new ver 3. Jens E. Brammer, Holte, Denmark > -----Original Message----- > From: Ira J. Lund [mailto:ira.lund@cf-software.com] > Sent: 24. oktober 1998 15:42 > To: CFT-WIN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Windows 95/98/NT vs Windows 3.1 > But I am > beginning to consider dropping the 16-bit version NOW! > > Ira >

Just to be different to other responses already posted, I have Win95 OSR2 (ie. Version 4.00.950 B) which has ver 5.00.1586.1 of regsvr32.exe in windows\system. I have not experienced any of the listed problems.   Russell Hartnoll russhart@voyager.co.nz <mailto:russhart@voyager.co.nz> > -----Original Message----- > From: Ira J. Lund [mailto:ira.lund@cf-software.com] > Sent: Sunday, October 25, 1998 2:38 AM > To: CFT-WIN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Consistent Problems > > > > 2. Perhaps the REGSVR32.EXE program - which registers the OCXs - is > different on different computers. Especially I am thinking that Windows 98 > may be has a newer version of this file. In double checking my computer I > realize that I actually have THREE versions of this scattered around: > > Ver 1.00 > Ver 4.00 > Ver 5.00.1586.1 > > Ver 4 is the one that is being distributed with CFT-Win Ver 2 and Ver 3 > beta. Could someone with Windows 98 do a search on their system for > REGSVR32.EXE. Do a right click and go to Properties, the second tab will > show the version number. I'm especially curious as to the version > number on > the one in c:\windows\system directory. > >

Ira, I installed beta 2 and imported a data file from ver.2.32X. Beta 2 operated quite OK until I executed the name search function, where the window opened but did not show any names. A second or so after opening, an error message appeared :"Word Code Not in File: 1-3849". Unlike beta 1, there was not any lockup and error recovery worked OK. I started the program several times, with the same error result when accessing name search. As a result of the continuing problem, I decided to re-install beta2. This time I entered data via the keyboard, and name search worked as expected. Could the import function be the source of creating the error associated with name search. This may have been the reason beta 1 had similar problems ie. word code not in file "errors". Icons appear in the column between Event and Sur on the Edit Individual screen, but nothing seen in the column between Marr and Sex in the Family Group screen. Is that normal. Cheers, Brian

In windows 98 C:\windows\system, REGSVR32.EXE is Version 5.00.1586.1 and is 40,960 bytes created Oct 2, 1998 and modified May 11, 1998. Yes is gives the modified date as earlier than the created date. -----Original Message----- From: Ira J. Lund <ira.lund@cf-software.com> To: CFT-WIN-L@rootsweb.com <CFT-WIN-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Saturday, October 24, 1998 8:42 AM Subject: Consistent Problems >I was wondering if I could get some help trying to figure out my consistent >problems with CFT-Win Ver 2. > >I have two problems that keep coming up: > >1. The Lund fonts not getting installed properly. >2. the Spellcheck and Backup ZIP OCX's not getting installed properly. > >The problems are inconsistent and the majority of people don't seemt o have >any problems. But there are enough people who keep complaining about little >problems here that I have got to think about them some more and see what I >can do to try to resolve these problems. > >I have 2 ideas about what may be causing the OCX problems. > >1. Perhaps the files in the SYSDLL ZIPs on my web site are missing and >these are the cause of the problem. I could distribute these files with >every program. They are over 1meg Zipped! and thus would require 3 disks >rather than the present 2 disks - which might be fine for sending disks - >but downloading is not quite so fine. > >2. Perhaps the REGSVR32.EXE program - which registers the OCXs - is >different on different computers. Especially I am thinking that Windows 98 >may be has a newer version of this file. In double checking my computer I >realize that I actually have THREE versions of this scattered around: > > Ver 1.00 > Ver 4.00 > Ver 5.00.1586.1 > >Ver 4 is the one that is being distributed with CFT-Win Ver 2 and Ver 3 >beta. Could someone with Windows 98 do a search on their system for >REGSVR32.EXE. Do a right click and go to Properties, the second tab will >show the version number. I'm especially curious as to the version number on >the one in c:\windows\system directory. > >It might be that I could solve the OCX problem by including the newer >regsvr32.exe AND the all the sysdll files. > >But then how do I solve the LUND font problem? I have had people who have >used Explorer copy these files from c:\cftw to c:\windows\font and it still >not get registered. I have had people use the Settings - Control Panel and >use the FONTS program there - AND it still won't install the fonts. The >only thing that seems to work in these cases is the manual editing of the >Windows Registry. Well, perhaps then I have got to figure out how to >programmatically change the windows registry directly!! > >Thanks for any help. Ira > >---------------------------------------------------------- > Ira J. Lund > Cumberland Family Software, Clarksville, Tennessee, USA > Genealogy Software for Beginners and Professionals > E-mail: ira.lund@cf-software.com > http://www.cf-software.com > > >==== CFT-WIN Mailing List ==== >To unsubscribe from CFT-WIN, send an e-mail message to: > CFT-WIN-L-request@rootsweb.com (for individual messages) > CFT-WIN-D-request@rootsweb.com (for Digest mode) >Subject: unsubscribe >In the body include only one word: unsubscribe >(Turn OFF your signature file when sending this command) > > >

At 09:38 AM 10/24/98 , Ira J. Lund wrote: (I forgot to say that a copy of REGSVR32.EXE is in C:\WINDOWS\ SYSTEM; it is v4.00.950a and 30,780 bytes; another copy is in the CFTW directory and it is v4.00, size 24,648 bytes; yet a third one resides in the GraphicsDiscovery directory, is v.4.00 also, but is 27, 648 in size. Go figure!) Ira, just for information, I am using Win95, v4.00.950a (the original, updated with Service Pack 1). The REGSVR32.EXE on my system is 4.00.1381. I have never had any of the problems with fonts or with registration of the OCXs when installing any version of CFT. SgtGeorge >2. Perhaps the REGSVR32.EXE program - which registers the OCXs - is >different on different computers. Especially I am thinking that Windows 98 >may be has a newer version of this file. In double checking my computer I >realize that I actually have THREE versions of this scattered around: > > Ver 1.00 > Ver 4.00 > Ver 5.00.1586.1 > >Ver 4 is the one that is being distributed with CFT-Win Ver 2 and Ver 3 >beta. Could someone with Windows 98 do a search on their system for >REGSVR32.EXE. Do a right click and go to Properties, the second tab will >show the version number. I'm especially curious as to the version number on >the one in c:\windows\system directory. > >It might be that I could solve the OCX problem by including the newer >regsvr32.exe AND the all the sysdll files. >

Ira, I have Win 95 with regsvr32.exe ver 4.0 and have never had any problems that I can recall.... Roy Ira J. Lund wrote: > I was wondering if I could get some help trying to figure out my consistent > problems with CFT-Win Ver 2. > > I have two problems that keep coming up: > > 1. The Lund fonts not getting installed properly. > 2. the Spellcheck and Backup ZIP OCX's not getting installed properly. > > The problems are inconsistent and the majority of people don't seemt o have > any problems. But there are enough people who keep complaining about little > problems here that I have got to think about them some more and see what I > can do to try to resolve these problems. > > I have 2 ideas about what may be causing the OCX problems. > > 1. Perhaps the files in the SYSDLL ZIPs on my web site are missing and > these are the cause of the problem. I could distribute these files with > every program. They are over 1meg Zipped! and thus would require 3 disks > rather than the present 2 disks - which might be fine for sending disks - > but downloading is not quite so fine. > > 2. Perhaps the REGSVR32.EXE program - which registers the OCXs - is > different on different computers. Especially I am thinking that Windows 98 > may be has a newer version of this file. In double checking my computer I > realize that I actually have THREE versions of this scattered around: > > Ver 1.00 > Ver 4.00 > Ver 5.00.1586.1 > > Ver 4 is the one that is being distributed with CFT-Win Ver 2 and Ver 3 > beta. Could someone with Windows 98 do a search on their system for > REGSVR32.EXE. Do a right click and go to Properties, the second tab will > show the version number. I'm especially curious as to the version number on > the one in c:\windows\system directory. > > It might be that I could solve the OCX problem by including the newer > regsvr32.exe AND the all the sysdll files. > > But then how do I solve the LUND font problem? I have had people who have > used Explorer copy these files from c:\cftw to c:\windows\font and it still > not get registered. I have had people use the Settings - Control Panel and > use the FONTS program there - AND it still won't install the fonts. The > only thing that seems to work in these cases is the manual editing of the > Windows Registry. Well, perhaps then I have got to figure out how to > programmatically change the windows registry directly!! > > Thanks for any help. Ira > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Ira J. Lund > Cumberland Family Software, Clarksville, Tennessee, USA > Genealogy Software for Beginners and Professionals > E-mail: ira.lund@cf-software.com > http://www.cf-software.com > > ==== CFT-WIN Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from CFT-WIN, send an e-mail message to: > CFT-WIN-L-request@rootsweb.com (for individual messages) > CFT-WIN-D-request@rootsweb.com (for Digest mode) > Subject: unsubscribe > In the body include only one word: unsubscribe > (Turn OFF your signature file when sending this command)