>I feel the same about Address List vers. Place List. There was quite a long >talk about this case when discussing Beta 1. Can you give one more advise >how the Ver3 distribute addresses and places? In another words, how shoul be >put the geographical data into Ver2 to be converted into Ver3 in the proper >way? Yes, I will have to do something about this. During the conversion any place that is attached to the "address" event gets placed in the Address List rather than Place List. I think an option is needed because some may not want an address in the place list and have only put full addresses on the "address" event - as I had expected people to do <grin>. Ira ---------------------------------------------------------- Ira J. Lund Cumberland Family Software, Clarksville, Tennessee, USA Genealogy Software for Beginners and Professionals E-mail: ira.lund@cf-software.com http://www.cf-software.com
Will look into these things. There must be some fishy stuff in the languages as you are not the only one having troubles in this area. But I did add a few languages and was messing with it here just fine. Ira At 07:23 PM 10/27/98 -0500, you wrote: >Program Configuration - Languages: >Tried again with my french language and accents and found out something weird, >for example: beside the word type: ADDR standard, we have the Death sentence. >Many Standard events were mixed up with other Standard events sentences. Check >the "English" language and found the same problem. > >Also when I tried to Edit my french language, many lines were impossible to >change. For example: # 300032 the "bef" abbreviation = cannot change it! > >Would be nice also to have the "Accented Characters" tab along with the edition >of a language. Althought we can retrieve it by pressing Ctrl+A. > >As for the Story tab, I reinstall Beta 2 in another directory, didn't register >the 2 ocx's files and still have nothing after the "Please while story is >created"... ---------------------------------------------------------- Ira J. Lund Cumberland Family Software, Clarksville, Tennessee, USA Genealogy Software for Beginners and Professionals E-mail: ira.lund@cf-software.com http://www.cf-software.com
>a) Main Display > Tools > UCC Calendar Calculator > Utilities > Options > >Languages >(where we can add edit etc , for new language) > >b)Main Display > Options > Database configuration > Languages >(where we can add or remove new language) > >c)Main Display > Options > UCC options > Languages >(to add, edit etc) > >d) Main Display > Options > Standard Events >(to edit, add etc for language selected) And e) Main Display > Options > Program Configuration > Languages FIVE locations for messing with languages. The differences: UCC is like a totally seperate program within CFT-Win. Therefore it has it's own Options Area to edit language data for it. It gets saved in UCC.TPS while main CFT-Win language data gets saved in STDEVENT.TPS. That explains two areas: 1. (e)- the main place to enter Language info for CFT-Win 2. (a)- the main place to enter Language infor for UCC Actually (c) is a repeat of (a). It is simply a shortcut to the UCC options without having to go right into UCC. (d) is also a shortcut for (e) where you can edit the Standard Events directly in your language without going through (e) - the list of words and phrases. That leaves only (b). The big difference between (e) and (b) is that (e) - Program Configuration - is where you edit languages that can be used by anyone. Eventually Ver 3 will contain a long list of languages just as Ver 2 does. But (b) is the location where you set the list of languages you want to use with the CURRENT DATABASE. Most people will use only ONE. Most will be ENGLISH. So you always want to select the Main Language for each database within the Database Configuration. Then if you want to have secondary languages you can select more languages to use with the current database. Once you have selected at least one Secondary Language you will begin to see a new button on all edit windows where you click to add the translation of names, places, notes, etc. into the secondary languages. In the Database Configuration Language area you CANNOT edit the languages. You only select which languages you want to use with the current database. Hope this clarifies. Ira ---------------------------------------------------------- Ira J. Lund Cumberland Family Software, Clarksville, Tennessee, USA Genealogy Software for Beginners and Professionals E-mail: ira.lund@cf-software.com http://www.cf-software.com
At 11:55 AM 10/27/98 -0500, you wrote: From: >Dave Bennett >Birmingham >England >Ira, > >Some more observations on Version Beta 2 Thanks, will look into these. Ira ---------------------------------------------------------- Ira J. Lund Cumberland Family Software, Clarksville, Tennessee, USA Genealogy Software for Beginners and Professionals E-mail: ira.lund@cf-software.com http://www.cf-software.com
When you run the regsvr32 for txole4.cx what kind of message do you get? Does it say it installed successfully? Ira At 08:59 AM 10/27/98 +0100, you wrote: >Nope! >Sorry. I tried this. >It still won't work. >I am using two different computers. One running Win95 and the other WinNT4. > >Ulf > >> -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- >> >1. I canÆt get the story to work at all. It gives me a Please Wait >> message and then >> >produces a blank screen. >> >> Had another user mention this. I am suspecting that the TX OCX is not >> installed. Try this: STart button-> Run: >> >> c:\cftw3\regsvr32 c:\cftw3\tx4ole.ocx >> >> also >> >> c:\cftw3\regsvr32 c:\cftw3\vspell32.ocx >> >> You should get successful registered for both. If not there's >> problems. ---------------------------------------------------------- Ira J. Lund Cumberland Family Software, Clarksville, Tennessee, USA Genealogy Software for Beginners and Professionals E-mail: ira.lund@cf-software.com http://www.cf-software.com
At 06:42 AM 10/27/98 +0100, you wrote: >Quoting Ira J. Lund (ira.lund@cf-software.com): > >> As far as I am concerned for program maintenance there is no functional >> differences between Windows 95, 98 and NT. They are all 32-bit Operating >> Systems and all 32-bit programs (including CFT-Win) works on all of them. > >It even works on NT 3.51 systems, by the way. But I didn't try printing >reports there. I have always thought that it did NOT work on NT 3. But perhaps it is the older Ver 2 that will not work. Maybe Ver 3 works with NT 3. Ira ---------------------------------------------------------- Ira J. Lund Cumberland Family Software, Clarksville, Tennessee, USA Genealogy Software for Beginners and Professionals E-mail: ira.lund@cf-software.com http://www.cf-software.com
The upgrade process from the older Ver 2 to Ver 3 (whether the old version was 16 or 32 bit) will always be easiest and cleanest through the Import Ver 2 which is already functioning in Ver 3. The only problem then lies in the transfer of data from Ver 3 back to Ver 2 - which would necessitate GEDCOM. The Ver 2 database structure has remained the same from Ver 2.00 through 2.32 and will continue to remain the same. There were some forced date formatting changes along 2.08 and 2.11 that gave some people headaches - but that was due to theri not entering properly formatted dates. So any dataa transfer between a Ver 2.32 for Win 3.1 and a Ver 2.50 for Win95 is as simple as copying the database - in either direction - and will remain so. I will not change the database structure in any future Ver 2 releases. Hope this clarifies. The scenerio you speak of where you have Ver 3 on your main desktop and Ver 2.32 Win 3.1 on a laptop can work. Depending on the data you enter on the desktop, I am hoping my NEW Ver 3 merge will work easier and cleaner than the older Ver 2 merge database function. In this case when you come back from the trip you do a Ver 2 import to a NEW database and then MERGE that NEW database to the MAIN one. Ira ---------------------------------------------------------- Ira J. Lund Cumberland Family Software, Clarksville, Tennessee, USA Genealogy Software for Beginners and Professionals E-mail: ira.lund@cf-software.com http://www.cf-software.com
>In version 2, no, there's no space between given and surname when you edit the >individual. But when the name is "registered" we do see a space on screen. In >version 3 Beta 2, there's also no space when we edit the individual, but when >the name is registered, there is still no space between given and surname on >screen. I guess you did something I never expected anyone to do - entered names in Ver 2 without a space between Given and Surname. It was inadvertant that it actually worked for you. I always expected people to leave a space. Not sure what to do now in Ver 3. I will look into the other items you mention. Ira ---------------------------------------------------------- Ira J. Lund Cumberland Family Software, Clarksville, Tennessee, USA Genealogy Software for Beginners and Professionals E-mail: ira.lund@cf-software.com http://www.cf-software.com
>Program Configuration - Languages: ...when I tried to Edit my french language, many lines were impossible to >change. For example: # 300032 the "bef" abbreviation = cannot change it! >Louise Smith Hi Ira, I have the same experience as Louise. I tried to add "new" language - Czech - and than edit the list and NOTHING changed. I also agree with a note, earlier placed, that the inside the language editor it is necessary to confim Close just with mouse - no keyboard command. No story is generated. I suppose that it is tied with the fact no repotrs are available as well. Thanks Petr
>4. Address List and Place List conversion. This seems to present another problem. In >my version 2 Place List I have entries that apply to both an Address Event and other >Events such as a Birth. When these are converted to Version 3 any one Version 2 >Place entry is added to the new Place List or the New Address List. The result is >hundreds of Events without and Address or a Place. It seems to me that any entry in >the existing version 2 place list that is used as an address and a place will need to be >added to both of the new lists. > >Dave Bennett Hello Ira, I feel the same about Address List vers. Place List. There was quite a long talk about this case when discussing Beta 1. Can you give one more advise how the Ver3 distribute addresses and places? In another words, how shoul be put the geographical data into Ver2 to be converted into Ver3 in the proper way? Thank you. The improvment from Beta1 to Beta2 is really great!!! Cannnot wait for te release! Thank you. Petr
> -----Original Message----- > From: Ira J. Lund <ira.lund@cf-software.com> > To: CFT-WIN-L@rootsweb.com <CFT-WIN-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: 24 October, 1998 9:47 AM > Subject: Windows 95/98/NT vs Windows 3.1 > > >It is quite a hassle to keep up with both 16 bit AND 32 bit versions of my > >programs. I would like to drop the maintaining and updating of the 16-bit > >version of CFT-Win (and UCC). I know this is not much of a formal survey, > >but I was wondering how many out there are still with Win 3.1? > > > >CFT-Win Ver 3 will definately be 32-bit only (Windows 95/98/NT). But I am > >beginning to consider dropping the 16-bit version NOW! > Hi Ira The Win 3.11 versions work very well and there is no need to bring out later updates. Anyone wanting to install the application as a new user will still be impressed. They will not be able to use version 3, but all the other applications I use do not support 3.11 in their latest upgrades. Example Ms-Works 4.5, and Publisher 98 Regards Gale
Hi Ira and all, Other little things with Beta 2, Program Configuration - Languages: Tried again with my french language and accents and found out something weird, for example: beside the word type: ADDR standard, we have the Death sentence. Many Standard events were mixed up with other Standard events sentences. Check the "English" language and found the same problem. Also when I tried to Edit my french language, many lines were impossible to change. For example: # 300032 the "bef" abbreviation = cannot change it! Would be nice also to have the "Accented Characters" tab along with the edition of a language. Althought we can retrieve it by pressing Ctrl+A. As for the Story tab, I reinstall Beta 2 in another directory, didn't register the 2 ocx's files and still have nothing after the "Please while story is created"... Regards Louise Smith Mascouche, Qc, Canada Email: louise@dsuper.net Ma page personnelle / My personnal page: http://www.dsuper.net/~louise/index.html
Ira, Some more observations on Version Beta 2 1. Database Configurations Options - I dont think the field lengths for Email and Web Site are long enough. I think at least 60 characters will be needed for the web URL. 2. The Spell Checker does not remember to use the custom dictionary. On the Word Not Found dialogue box the Open Custom button is greyed out and the Option/Open Custom needs to be used each time. After which asking for suggestions will find the words in the custom dictionary. The OCX has been successfully registered. 3. A few days ago I reported that the List function in the Address Editor was only listing 1 person even when there should be several. I can confirm that if several people have the same address they are listed correctly. The problem seems to be with the file load from version 2 because only one event is being correctly assigned to an address. Any other events that were associated with that place in version 2 now have a blank in the Address Event. 4. Address List and Place List conversion. This seems to present another problem. In my version 2 Place List I have entries that apply to both an Address Event and other Events such as a Birth. When these are converted to Version 3 any one Version 2 Place entry is added to the new Place List or the New Address List. The result is hundreds of Events without and Address or a Place. It seems to me that any entry in the existing version 2 place list that is used as an address and a place will need to be added to both of the new lists. Regards Dave Bennett Birmingham England Tuesday, 27 October 1998 Home Page:- http:/ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/dave_bennett E-mail:- dave_bennett@compuserve.com
Ira Main Screen - Story Tab I have re-registered TX OCX but after displaying the Please wait message..... the system still spends a few seconds doing something before displaying a blank white screen. I have reinstalled Beta1 in another directory and the story tab works fine in there without re-registering either of the OCXs. Regards Dave Bennett Birmingham England Tuesday, 27 October 1998 Home Page:- http:/ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/dave_bennett E-mail:- dave_bennett@compuserve.com
- I think I shall stop worrying about updating the >Windows 3.1 - and even stop shipping extra Win 3.1 disks when the program >is ordered. However, I will include a message that if they still need Win >3.1 then they can contact me for a copy. Ira ! Having made a plea for win3.1 in the past, I am happy to report now that win95 has recently been installed on my desk, and I'm ready to start migrating. Your suggestion seems to offer the most sensible solution. Regards, Yair \*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/ Yair Sachs The Hebrew University of Jerusalem Computation Center, Communication group sachs@cc.huji.ac.il Tel: office 972-2 - 6584484 fax " 6527349 home " 6438948 mobile 052 - 608073 /*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\
Nope! Sorry. I tried this. It still won't work. I am using two different computers. One running Win95 and the other WinNT4. Ulf > -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- > Från: MIME:ira.lund@cf-software.com at INTERNET > Skickat: den 26 oktober 1998 17:01 > Till: Göransson Ulf; CFT-WIN-L@rootsweb.com at INTERNET > Ämne: Re: Version 3 Beta 2 > > > >1. I canÆt get the story to work at all. It gives me a Please Wait > message and then > >produces a blank screen. > > Had another user mention this. I am suspecting that the TX OCX is not > installed. Try this: STart button-> Run: > > c:\cftw3\regsvr32 c:\cftw3\tx4ole.ocx > > also > > c:\cftw3\regsvr32 c:\cftw3\vspell32.ocx > > You should get successful registered for both. If not there's > problems. > > > The rest of your bugs and comments are appreciated and will > be taken into > account. > > Ira > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Ira J. Lund > Cumberland Family Software, Clarksville, Tennessee, USA > Genealogy Software for Beginners and Professionals > E-mail: ira.lund@cf-software.com > http://www.cf-software.com > > >
Quoting Jeff Murphy (jeff.murphy@worldnet.att.net): > If I remember correctly, when Windows 95 was released, there was a program > called Win32 (or something like that) that allowed Windows 3.1 to run 32 More precisely Win32s. This is a set of 32-bit APIs It should be tested, imho. With the beta version of 3.x, of course....
Quoting Ira J. Lund (ira.lund@cf-software.com): > As far as I am concerned for program maintenance there is no functional > differences between Windows 95, 98 and NT. They are all 32-bit Operating > Systems and all 32-bit programs (including CFT-Win) works on all of them. It even works on NT 3.51 systems, by the way. But I didn't try printing reports there. --
G'day, I have only just noticed that CFT uses the terms "second", "third" great grandfather. I am used to saying "great great". My dictionary does not define a relationship greater (excuse the pun) than great grandfather. Is this THE normal genealogical method or is it mainly an (US) American variation? HURU, Mike
G'day, >NameSearch not working! > >No, I never experienced this problem. Any one else? I wonder if there is No problems for me as yet with any aspects of Beta2. (Fingers crossed :-)) HURU, Mike