At 07:49 AM 3/16/01 +0200, you wrote: >Hi Ira and Sigurd > >>> I have tried the Html generator - and it looks fine except for some dates. >>> If we choose "from" dates or "between" dates, the second dates are not >>> displayed properly - they are cut off. > >Ira, in 3.05 the dates in the HTML were left justified. On the 4th Jan I sent you a simple formula that you could use not only to achieve the right justification of "short" dates, but would also extend the width of the date field for "long" dates of more than 15 characters, iff you used the whole date as is without truncating it. At the time we also had a discussion about date formatting in general. > >if ( strlen(DisplayString) < 15 ) { LeadingSpaces = 15 - strlen(DisplayString) ; } else { LeadingSpaces = 0 ; } > >My suggestion was that if the date was longer than 15 characters, the place/misc field would be shifted to the right in order to accomodate the longer date. I think this is an acceptable compromise, so that "long" dates can be seen in full, while still keeping the normal width of the date column reasonably small (15 characters), which is enough to display single full dates even if prefixed with "abt" etc. > >So I too was disappointed to to see that "long" dates were still chopped off. Perhaps Ira just forgot to remove the line truncating the date to 15 characters, which is now not needed. Either "forgot" or was too busy to get to it. Can't remember. Will take a look when I can. Ira ------------------------------------------------ Mr. Ira J. Lund E-mail: [email protected] Web: http://www.cf-software.com Cumberland Family Software, 385 Idaho Springs Road, Clarksville TN 37043

Hi Ira and Sigurd >> I have tried the Html generator - and it looks fine except for some dates. >> If we choose "from" dates or "between" dates, the second dates are not >> displayed properly - they are cut off. Ira, in 3.05 the dates in the HTML were left justified. On the 4th Jan I sent you a simple formula that you could use not only to achieve the right justification of "short" dates, but would also extend the width of the date field for "long" dates of more than 15 characters, iff you used the whole date as is without truncating it. At the time we also had a discussion about date formatting in general. if ( strlen(DisplayString) < 15 ) { LeadingSpaces = 15 - strlen(DisplayString) ; } else { LeadingSpaces = 0 ; } My suggestion was that if the date was longer than 15 characters, the place/misc field would be shifted to the right in order to accomodate the longer date. I think this is an acceptable compromise, so that "long" dates can be seen in full, while still keeping the normal width of the date column reasonably small (15 characters), which is enough to display single full dates even if prefixed with "abt" etc. So I too was disappointed to to see that "long" dates were still chopped off. Perhaps Ira just forgot to remove the line truncating the date to 15 characters, which is now not needed. John

Part of the problem here is space - not enough space allocated tokeep things lined up in columns. One idea would be rather than making the place name line up in a column have it appended to the date. Then you'd see things like: Birth: betw 4 Jul 1888 and 24 Jul 1888 Nashville, Davidson, Tennessee Marriage: 20 Jul 1888 Clarksville, Montgomery, Tennessee Death: aft 1950 Hopkinsville, Christian, Kentucky Then long dates wouldn't get in the way of lining up the Place name column. What do you think? Ira At 05:39 PM 3/15/01 +0100, you wrote: >I have tried the Html generator - and it looks fine except for some >dates. > >If we choose "from" dates or "between" dates, the second dates are >not displayed properly - they are cut off. > >If the first date is written as DDMMMYYYY the second date is omitted. >If the first date is written as the year only - YYYY- the second date >is cut off. > >So it might look like this: > >Marriage: betw 3 Dec 1900 Kristiania > >Lived: from 1976 to 19 Tennessee > >Died: betw 1994 and 1 Washington > >and so on. ------------------------------------------------ Mr. Ira J. Lund E-mail: [email protected] Web: http://www.cf-software.com Cumberland Family Software, 385 Idaho Springs Road, Clarksville TN 37043

Rik, excuse me, but I am the Listowner for this Mailing List and I really think it is up to me to decide when an off-topic thread has gone far enough. Yes, it IS better when all posts to a List stick to the subject of the List, but every once in a while, when things are kind of slow, I have been lax about off-topic posts. I don't mind a question now and the, and maybe even a few replies. But, if it becomes too wide-ranging I usually do step in and ask that the thread be moved to the proper List. As to Walter's hardware problem, it had to do specifically with operation of CFTW. Now, that certainly seems to me to be ON-TOPIC. Just as genealogy is not made up solely of names, dates, and places, neither is this CFTW Mailing List made up SOLELY of postings having to do with very narrow questions about the CFTW program. If a user is having problem with his/her computer when trying to run CFTW, then THAT is pertinent!!!!! As to the virus problem, IT CONCERNED SOMEONE WHO THOUGHT SHE HAD CONTACTED THE VIRUS FROM IRA'S CFTW PROGRAM!!!!! THAT is definitely on-topic for this List. It concerned everyone who uses CFTW and I felt it absolutely pertinent to allow the thread to play itself out to the satisfaction of all users. No one panicked! A calm discussion occurred. As to your unsubscribing, and I do not say this spitefully or in a mean manner, it is certainly your right to unsubscribe if you don't like what is posted to a Mailing List. Of course all Lists can not be so "pure" that they always stick to the subject as you would define it. The world certainly needs more tolerance, and I think you should have a little more tolerance toward this, or any other, List. Regards, George W. Durman Listowner At 05:18 PM 03/15/2001, Rik de Lange wrote: *********START OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT********* >Dear Users, > >Why are we all discussing Walters hardware problem, while this mailbox >should be used for service and suggestions regarding CFTW -program so no >time is spilled on not relevant problems. Walters should be helped by his >hardware-dealer. I'am also amazed by the discussion and panic around the >possible virus in the upgrade of CFTW. I trust that Ira will check his >software for viruses, although we are aware of the still growing amount of >new viruses, which are not detected. There is no reason for panic, first >analyse this problem thoroughly. > >I 'am considering unsubscribing when our mail-box is not used for it's >purpose. > >Kind regards, > >Rik > >-----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- >Van: Jens Erik (Mik) Brammer [mailto:[email protected]] >Verzonden: donderdag 15 maart 2001 15:40 >Aan: [email protected] >Onderwerp: RE: [CFTW] Crashes > >Walter, >1) my experience tells me that your hardware configuration and sizes is >not >the problem, but there could of course be some strange hardware error >(thunderstorms are definitely not friends of delicate computer >electronics!). Maybe your insurance company would pay for a general >overhaul >or a new machine? >2) in my control panel, add/remove properties, my CFTW Ver 2.51 is listed >as >"Cumberland Family Tree (32-bit)". Have you tried to reinstall from >scratch? >Remember to take backup copy of your database file. >Good luck >Jens E. Brammer, Øverød, Denmark >- > > From: walterboswell1 [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2001 12:51 PM > > > Compaq 4508. There have been a lot of thunderstorms around here. **********END OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT**********

Dear Users, Why are we all discussing Walters hardware problem, while this mailbox should be used for service and suggestions regarding CFTW -program so no time is spilled on not relevant problems. Walters should be helped by his hardware-dealer. I'am also amazed by the discussion and panic around the possible virus in the upgrade of CFTW. I trust that Ira will check his software for viruses, although we are aware of the still growing amount of new viruses, which are not detected. There is no reason for panic, first analyse this problem thoroughly. I 'am considering unsubscribing when our mail-box is not used for it's purpose. Kind regards, Rik -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: Jens Erik (Mik) Brammer [mailto:[email protected]] Verzonden: donderdag 15 maart 2001 15:40 Aan: [email protected] Onderwerp: RE: [CFTW] Crashes Walter, 1) my experience tells me that your hardware configuration and sizes is not the problem, but there could of course be some strange hardware error (thunderstorms are definitely not friends of delicate computer electronics!). Maybe your insurance company would pay for a general overhaul or a new machine? 2) in my control panel, add/remove properties, my CFTW Ver 2.51 is listed as "Cumberland Family Tree (32-bit)". Have you tried to reinstall from scratch? Remember to take backup copy of your database file. Good luck Jens E. Brammer, Øverød, Denmark - > From: walterboswell1 [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2001 12:51 PM > Compaq 4508. There have been a lot of thunderstorms around here. ==== CFT-WIN Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe from CFT-WIN, send an e-mail message to: [email protected] (for individual messages) [email protected] (for Digest mode) Subject: unsubscribe In the body include only one word: unsubscribe (Turn OFF your signature file when sending this command) ============================== Create a FREE family website at MyFamily.com! http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST2

I have tried the Html generator - and it looks fine except for some dates. If we choose "from" dates or "between" dates, the second dates are not displayed properly - they are cut off. If the first date is written as DDMMMYYYY the second date is omitted. If the first date is written as the year only - YYYY- the second date is cut off. So it might look like this: Marriage: betw 3 Dec 1900 Kristiania Lived: from 1976 to 19 Tennessee Died: betw 1994 and 1 Washington and so on. Regards Sigurd Eliassen Norway

Walter, 1) my experience tells me that your hardware configuration and sizes is not the problem, but there could of course be some strange hardware error (thunderstorms are definitely not friends of delicate computer electronics!). Maybe your insurance company would pay for a general overhaul or a new machine? 2) in my control panel, add/remove properties, my CFTW Ver 2.51 is listed as "Cumberland Family Tree (32-bit)". Have you tried to reinstall from scratch? Remember to take backup copy of your database file. Good luck Jens E. Brammer, Øverød, Denmark - > From: walterboswell1 [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2001 12:51 PM > Compaq 4508. There have been a lot of thunderstorms around here.

I agree with Ray and Packard-Bell is another one that is proprietary. All hardware is hard-wired to the mother board. If a modem or video card goes bad, the entire mother board has to be replaced. SgtGeorge At 07:09 AM 03/15/2001, Raymond L. Fournier wrote: *********START OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT********* >Walt it really is time to be replacing your machine. Need to get something >that is less restrictive. Stay away from Compaq and HP. They are making >there machines more and more proprietary. This is what got Apple or Mac in >trouble in the first place. > >Ray Fournier > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "walterboswell1" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2001 6:51 AM >Subject: Re: [CFTW] Crashes > > > > Hi, Harvey and Others-- > > > > Sorry I am so late in responding to questions concerning adding memory > to >my > > Compaq 4508. There have been a lot of thunderstorms around here. But > this >is what > > I found on my machine from a Compaq technician: > > > > "The system board includes 16-MB of SDRAM soldered down on the system >board and > > one DIMM gold contact socket for memory expansion. This socket may be >populated > > with 4-, 8-, 16-, or 32-MB industry standard DIMMs only. Memory may be >upgraded > > with one DIMM. Up to 32 MB may be added to the base configuration by >installing > > one 32-MB DIMMs, increasing the maximum system memory to 48 MB. Either >parity or > > nonparity DIMMs may be used, but parity checking will not be enabled by >the memory > > controller. DIMMs with gold contacts are required to prevent long-term >problems. > > If gold contacts are not used, system integrity will be jeopardized." > > > > walt > > [email protected] > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Harvey Nimmo" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2001 1:37 PM > > Subject: AW: [CFTW] Crashes > > > > > > > Walt, > > > > > > The DIMM slots are what we're looking for! The fact that it is > called >slot > > > 1 suggests there may be more! If so, you can add memory in the > others > > > without having to ditch the 32MB. If not, you could probably replace >the > > > 32MB with say 64MB or even 128MB. > > > > > > But before thinking of spending money you could increase your > Swapfile > > > memory, say, to 96MB. To do that, click with the right mouse button > > > on the Desktop Explorer symbol and choose 'properties'. In the >properties > > > window select the rightmost register ('characteristics'?... >sorry...don't > > > know what the English term is, my Windows is German). Select the > button >at > > > the bottom right 'Virtual memory' and set the user settings of swap >memory, > > > both minimum and maximum, to the same value, say 96MB (if there is >enough > > > memory available on your fixed disk). You will have to reboot your >machine, > > > I think, to let the new settings take effect. > > > > > > See if that helps. > > > > > > Harvey > > > > > > >Hi, Harvey-- > > > > > > > >I don't know much about these things. I know my computer came with > > > >16 MG of memory > > > >and I added another 32 MG. This is what "diagnostics" has to say > > > >about the memory: > > > > > > > >System Board . . . . . . . . . . 16 Megabytes > > > > DIMM Slot 1 (Unknown) . . . . 32 Megabytes > > > >Total Compaq Memory . . . . . . 48 Megabytes > > > > > > > >Total Physical Windows Memory . 48584 Kbytes > > > >Total Swapfile Memory . . . . . 48584 Kbytes > > > > > > > >Does that tell you anything? > > > > > > > >walt > > > >[email protected] > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > > >From: "Harvey Nimmo" <[email protected]> > > > >To: <[email protected]> > > > >Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2001 11:14 AM > > > >Subject: AW: [CFTW] Crashes > > > > > > > > > > > >> Hello again Walt, > > > >> > > > >> I tend to think that buying a new computer is like > capitulation...it >is > > > >> really a last resort! I'm a bit surprised that 48MB is the limit > on >your > > > >> machine. I had 32MB originally and would have said that 32MB is > not > > > >> enough...not sure what to expect from 48MB. If you have 3 slots > > > >with a 16MB > > > >> card in each then it should be possible to replace one or more > > > >of them with > > > >> a 64MB card. (Nowadays one can buy a single card with 64MB, > > > >depends on the > > > >> type of RAM your machine can handle). How many slots does your >machine > > > >> have? > > > >> > > > >> Harvey > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> >-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > > > >> >Von: walterboswell1 [mailto:[email protected]] > > > >> >Gesendet: Mittwoch, 14. März 2001 10:09 > > > >> >An: [email protected] > > > >> >Betreff: Re: [CFTW] Crashes > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> >Hi, Harvey-- > > > >> > > > > >> >Thanks a lot for writing, Harvey. My computer came with 16MB of > > > >memory, I > > > >> >installed an additional 32MB. That gave me a total of 48 MB, the >maximum > > > >> >amount I > > > >> >can get out of this machine without some extensive alterations, >which I > > > >> >don't > > > >> >fully understand. At any rate, I was told that any major changes > in >my > > > >> >computer > > > >> >would cost more than the computer is worth; that it would be a > > > >lot cheaper > > > >> >in the > > > >> >long run to just buy a new machine. Considering the rapid >innovations in > > > >> >these > > > >> >things, that makes sense to me. What do you think? > > > >> > > > > >> >At any rate, thanks for writing and I appreciate your help very >much. > > > >> > > > > >> >walt > > > >> >[email protected] > > > >> >----- Original Message ----- > > > >> >From: "Harvey Nimmo" <[email protected]> > > > >> >To: <[email protected]> > > > >> >Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2001 1:37 PM > > > >> >Subject: AW: [CFTW] Crashes > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > Dear Walter, > > > >> > > > > > >> > > Perhaps you should consider adding RAM to your PC to improve > its > > > >> >stability. > > > >> > > Win95 seems to be a bit untidy with its memory management so > > > >that if you > > > >> > > have only say, 32MB, conflicts may occur which could lead to > > > >crashes. I > > > >> > > manage fine with 96MB. I think CFTW or Outlook is a bit > > > >unlikely as a > > > >> >cause > > > >> > > of the problem since I use both on a Pentium 2/MMX 233MHz with >Win95 > > > >> > > > > > >> > > Greetings > > > >> > > > > > >> > > Harvey Nimmo > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> >==== CFT-WIN Mailing List ==== > > > >> >You can contact the List Manager at: > > > >> >[email protected] > > > >> > > > > >> >============================== > > > >> >Search over 900 million names at Ancestry.com! > > > >> >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> ==== CFT-WIN Mailing List ==== > > > >> To unsubscribe from CFT-WIN, send an e-mail message to: > > > >> [email protected] (for individual messages) > > > >> [email protected] (for Digest mode) > > > >> Subject: unsubscribe > > > >> In the body include only one word: unsubscribe > > > >> (Turn OFF your signature file when sending this command) > > > >> > > > >> ============================== > > > >> Search more than 150 million free records at RootsWeb! > > > >> http://searches.rootsweb.com/ > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >==== CFT-WIN Mailing List ==== > > > >You can contact the List Manager at: > > > >[email protected] > > > > > > > >============================== > > > >Search more than 150 million free records at RootsWeb! > > > >http://searches.rootsweb.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CFT-WIN Mailing List ==== > > > You can contact the List Manager at: > > > [email protected] > > > > > > ============================== > > > Create a FREE family website at MyFamily.com! > > > http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST2 > > > > > > > > > ==== CFT-WIN Mailing List ==== > > You can contact the List Manager at: > > [email protected] > > > > ============================== > > Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > > Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. > > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com > > > > > > >==== CFT-WIN Mailing List ==== >To unsubscribe from CFT-WIN, send an e-mail message to: > [email protected] (for individual messages) > [email protected] (for Digest mode) >Subject: unsubscribe >In the body include only one word: unsubscribe >(Turn OFF your signature file when sending this command) > >============================== >Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family history >learning and how-to articles on the Internet. >http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library **********END OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT**********

>I think I might have discovered by sheer accident an unusual situation that may >have something to do with my CFTW crashes. While scrolling down the list of >installed programs on add-remove properties (control panel) I discovered that my >CFTW 2.50 is not listed there. I find this somewhat unusal and I don't have any >reason for it. The program IS on my C drive, however. What do you make of this, if >anything? I'm not an expert on this - but I really doubt that whether a program is listed there has anything to do with whether it should operate properly or not. Ira ------------------------------------------------ Mr. Ira J. Lund E-mail: [email protected] Web: http://www.cf-software.com Cumberland Family Software, 385 Idaho Springs Road, Clarksville TN 37043

At 06:12 PM 3/14/01 -0800, you wrote: >As the original contributor to this string, I thank you all for your interest. >Here's what I did to try to resolve: On Ira's advice, I downgraded a version. >This caused some unusual result, it would not display all my data on the screen >even though it did exist. Rebuild did not work. Then, again, on Ira's adivce, I >reloaded the complete version. The same thing happened when I tried to view my >original data file with 3.2. Then I tried importing my gedcom & that finally >worked. Something must have corrupted the database when I downgraded. Here's a >warning to you all, DON'T DOWNGRADE! Although I was able to recover, it was >hours of wasted time. Now that you mention this, I believe I know what the problem is. You are correct that all your data is in there and just fine. But what has happened is the way things gets displayed on the main Family Group Window changes due to the new "diamond". In 3.06 you can turn these on or off (Database Config). In 3.06 there is also a RESET button for resetting (clearing) this. The program tries to save the format of this window between sessions - and it gets saved internally to the database. Thus, the 3.06 format (when last used) was saved into the database which was then attempted to be opened by 3.05 (earlier version) and things would not look correct. But 3.05 has no reset button to clear this - so this is why a creation of new database and ged import will clear things up. Ira ------------------------------------------------ Mr. Ira J. Lund E-mail: [email protected] Web: http://www.cf-software.com Cumberland Family Software, 385 Idaho Springs Road, Clarksville TN 37043

Walt it really is time to be replacing your machine. Need to get something that is less restrictive. Stay away from Compaq and HP. They are making there machines more and more proprietary. This is what got Apple or Mac in trouble in the first place. Ray Fournier ----- Original Message ----- From: "walterboswell1" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2001 6:51 AM Subject: Re: [CFTW] Crashes > Hi, Harvey and Others-- > > Sorry I am so late in responding to questions concerning adding memory to my > Compaq 4508. There have been a lot of thunderstorms around here. But this is what > I found on my machine from a Compaq technician: > > "The system board includes 16-MB of SDRAM soldered down on the system board and > one DIMM gold contact socket for memory expansion. This socket may be populated > with 4-, 8-, 16-, or 32-MB industry standard DIMMs only. Memory may be upgraded > with one DIMM. Up to 32 MB may be added to the base configuration by installing > one 32-MB DIMMs, increasing the maximum system memory to 48 MB. Either parity or > nonparity DIMMs may be used, but parity checking will not be enabled by the memory > controller. DIMMs with gold contacts are required to prevent long-term problems. > If gold contacts are not used, system integrity will be jeopardized." > > walt > [email protected] > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Harvey Nimmo" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2001 1:37 PM > Subject: AW: [CFTW] Crashes > > > > Walt, > > > > The DIMM slots are what we're looking for! The fact that it is called slot > > 1 suggests there may be more! If so, you can add memory in the others > > without having to ditch the 32MB. If not, you could probably replace the > > 32MB with say 64MB or even 128MB. > > > > But before thinking of spending money you could increase your Swapfile > > memory, say, to 96MB. To do that, click with the right mouse button > > on the Desktop Explorer symbol and choose 'properties'. In the properties > > window select the rightmost register ('characteristics'?... sorry...don't > > know what the English term is, my Windows is German). Select the button at > > the bottom right 'Virtual memory' and set the user settings of swap memory, > > both minimum and maximum, to the same value, say 96MB (if there is enough > > memory available on your fixed disk). You will have to reboot your machine, > > I think, to let the new settings take effect. > > > > See if that helps. > > > > Harvey > > > > >Hi, Harvey-- > > > > > >I don't know much about these things. I know my computer came with > > >16 MG of memory > > >and I added another 32 MG. This is what "diagnostics" has to say > > >about the memory: > > > > > >System Board . . . . . . . . . . 16 Megabytes > > > DIMM Slot 1 (Unknown) . . . . 32 Megabytes > > >Total Compaq Memory . . . . . . 48 Megabytes > > > > > >Total Physical Windows Memory . 48584 Kbytes > > >Total Swapfile Memory . . . . . 48584 Kbytes > > > > > >Does that tell you anything? > > > > > >walt > > >[email protected] > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: "Harvey Nimmo" <[email protected]> > > >To: <[email protected]> > > >Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2001 11:14 AM > > >Subject: AW: [CFTW] Crashes > > > > > > > > >> Hello again Walt, > > >> > > >> I tend to think that buying a new computer is like capitulation...it is > > >> really a last resort! I'm a bit surprised that 48MB is the limit on your > > >> machine. I had 32MB originally and would have said that 32MB is not > > >> enough...not sure what to expect from 48MB. If you have 3 slots > > >with a 16MB > > >> card in each then it should be possible to replace one or more > > >of them with > > >> a 64MB card. (Nowadays one can buy a single card with 64MB, > > >depends on the > > >> type of RAM your machine can handle). How many slots does your machine > > >> have? > > >> > > >> Harvey > > >> > > >> > > >> >-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > > >> >Von: walterboswell1 [mailto:[email protected]] > > >> >Gesendet: Mittwoch, 14. März 2001 10:09 > > >> >An: [email protected] > > >> >Betreff: Re: [CFTW] Crashes > > >> > > > >> > > > >> >Hi, Harvey-- > > >> > > > >> >Thanks a lot for writing, Harvey. My computer came with 16MB of > > >memory, I > > >> >installed an additional 32MB. That gave me a total of 48 MB, the maximum > > >> >amount I > > >> >can get out of this machine without some extensive alterations, which I > > >> >don't > > >> >fully understand. At any rate, I was told that any major changes in my > > >> >computer > > >> >would cost more than the computer is worth; that it would be a > > >lot cheaper > > >> >in the > > >> >long run to just buy a new machine. Considering the rapid innovations in > > >> >these > > >> >things, that makes sense to me. What do you think? > > >> > > > >> >At any rate, thanks for writing and I appreciate your help very much. > > >> > > > >> >walt > > >> >[email protected] > > >> >----- Original Message ----- > > >> >From: "Harvey Nimmo" <[email protected]> > > >> >To: <[email protected]> > > >> >Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2001 1:37 PM > > >> >Subject: AW: [CFTW] Crashes > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > Dear Walter, > > >> > > > > >> > > Perhaps you should consider adding RAM to your PC to improve its > > >> >stability. > > >> > > Win95 seems to be a bit untidy with its memory management so > > >that if you > > >> > > have only say, 32MB, conflicts may occur which could lead to > > >crashes. I > > >> > > manage fine with 96MB. I think CFTW or Outlook is a bit > > >unlikely as a > > >> >cause > > >> > > of the problem since I use both on a Pentium 2/MMX 233MHz with Win95 > > >> > > > > >> > > Greetings > > >> > > > > >> > > Harvey Nimmo > > >> > > > >> > > > >> >==== CFT-WIN Mailing List ==== > > >> >You can contact the List Manager at: > > >> >[email protected] > > >> > > > >> >============================== > > >> >Search over 900 million names at Ancestry.com! > > >> >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> ==== CFT-WIN Mailing List ==== > > >> To unsubscribe from CFT-WIN, send an e-mail message to: > > >> [email protected] (for individual messages) > > >> [email protected] (for Digest mode) > > >> Subject: unsubscribe > > >> In the body include only one word: unsubscribe > > >> (Turn OFF your signature file when sending this command) > > >> > > >> ============================== > > >> Search more than 150 million free records at RootsWeb! > > >> http://searches.rootsweb.com/ > > >> > > > > > > > > >==== CFT-WIN Mailing List ==== > > >You can contact the List Manager at: > > >[email protected] > > > > > >============================== > > >Search more than 150 million free records at RootsWeb! > > >http://searches.rootsweb.com/ > > > > > > > > > ==== CFT-WIN Mailing List ==== > > You can contact the List Manager at: > > [email protected] > > > > ============================== > > Create a FREE family website at MyFamily.com! > > http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST2 > > > > > ==== CFT-WIN Mailing List ==== > You can contact the List Manager at: > [email protected] > > ============================== > Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com > >

>I'm not suggesting automatic merging of names, you're right, no one would >be happy with automatic combinations. > >I'm only suggesting that the secondary db name data be placed into a NOTE >rather than being discarded as is the case now. I will add some of these ideas to my list and see how things go. Sometimes they get added later than sooner - depends on difficulty, etc. of implementation. >>I think the Rebuild problem is related to the multiple marriage problem. >>When the marriages don't get set correctly, the Rebuild attempts to repair >>them. >Premature rebuilding was the source of most of my db merge problems. >The program's advice to rebuild immediately after a merge is misleading and >perhaps should be rephrased., I think that if the DB merge works properly - as it should - then the Rebuild won't cause the problems you are having here. I need to concentrate on the Merge bugs. Ira ------------------------------------------------ Mr. Ira J. Lund E-mail: [email protected] Web: http://www.cf-software.com Cumberland Family Software, 385 Idaho Springs Road, Clarksville TN 37043

Hello Again, Fellows-- I think I might have discovered by sheer accident an unusual situation that may have something to do with my CFTW crashes. While scrolling down the list of installed programs on add-remove properties (control panel) I discovered that my CFTW 2.50 is not listed there. I find this somewhat unusal and I don't have any reason for it. The program IS on my C drive, however. What do you make of this, if anything? walt [email protected]

Hi, Harvey and Others-- Sorry I am so late in responding to questions concerning adding memory to my Compaq 4508. There have been a lot of thunderstorms around here. But this is what I found on my machine from a Compaq technician: "The system board includes 16-MB of SDRAM soldered down on the system board and one DIMM gold contact socket for memory expansion. This socket may be populated with 4-, 8-, 16-, or 32-MB industry standard DIMMs only. Memory may be upgraded with one DIMM. Up to 32 MB may be added to the base configuration by installing one 32-MB DIMMs, increasing the maximum system memory to 48 MB. Either parity or nonparity DIMMs may be used, but parity checking will not be enabled by the memory controller. DIMMs with gold contacts are required to prevent long-term problems. If gold contacts are not used, system integrity will be jeopardized." walt [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Harvey Nimmo" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2001 1:37 PM Subject: AW: [CFTW] Crashes > Walt, > > The DIMM slots are what we're looking for! The fact that it is called slot > 1 suggests there may be more! If so, you can add memory in the others > without having to ditch the 32MB. If not, you could probably replace the > 32MB with say 64MB or even 128MB. > > But before thinking of spending money you could increase your Swapfile > memory, say, to 96MB. To do that, click with the right mouse button > on the Desktop Explorer symbol and choose 'properties'. In the properties > window select the rightmost register ('characteristics'?... sorry...don't > know what the English term is, my Windows is German). Select the button at > the bottom right 'Virtual memory' and set the user settings of swap memory, > both minimum and maximum, to the same value, say 96MB (if there is enough > memory available on your fixed disk). You will have to reboot your machine, > I think, to let the new settings take effect. > > See if that helps. > > Harvey > > >Hi, Harvey-- > > > >I don't know much about these things. I know my computer came with > >16 MG of memory > >and I added another 32 MG. This is what "diagnostics" has to say > >about the memory: > > > >System Board . . . . . . . . . . 16 Megabytes > > DIMM Slot 1 (Unknown) . . . . 32 Megabytes > >Total Compaq Memory . . . . . . 48 Megabytes > > > >Total Physical Windows Memory . 48584 Kbytes > >Total Swapfile Memory . . . . . 48584 Kbytes > > > >Does that tell you anything? > > > >walt > >[email protected] > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Harvey Nimmo" <[email protected]> > >To: <[email protected]> > >Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2001 11:14 AM > >Subject: AW: [CFTW] Crashes > > > > > >> Hello again Walt, > >> > >> I tend to think that buying a new computer is like capitulation...it is > >> really a last resort! I'm a bit surprised that 48MB is the limit on your > >> machine. I had 32MB originally and would have said that 32MB is not > >> enough...not sure what to expect from 48MB. If you have 3 slots > >with a 16MB > >> card in each then it should be possible to replace one or more > >of them with > >> a 64MB card. (Nowadays one can buy a single card with 64MB, > >depends on the > >> type of RAM your machine can handle). How many slots does your machine > >> have? > >> > >> Harvey > >> > >> > >> >-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > >> >Von: walterboswell1 [mailto:[email protected]] > >> >Gesendet: Mittwoch, 14. März 2001 10:09 > >> >An: [email protected] > >> >Betreff: Re: [CFTW] Crashes > >> > > >> > > >> >Hi, Harvey-- > >> > > >> >Thanks a lot for writing, Harvey. My computer came with 16MB of > >memory, I > >> >installed an additional 32MB. That gave me a total of 48 MB, the maximum > >> >amount I > >> >can get out of this machine without some extensive alterations, which I > >> >don't > >> >fully understand. At any rate, I was told that any major changes in my > >> >computer > >> >would cost more than the computer is worth; that it would be a > >lot cheaper > >> >in the > >> >long run to just buy a new machine. Considering the rapid innovations in > >> >these > >> >things, that makes sense to me. What do you think? > >> > > >> >At any rate, thanks for writing and I appreciate your help very much. > >> > > >> >walt > >> >[email protected] > >> >----- Original Message ----- > >> >From: "Harvey Nimmo" <[email protected]> > >> >To: <[email protected]> > >> >Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2001 1:37 PM > >> >Subject: AW: [CFTW] Crashes > >> > > >> > > >> > > Dear Walter, > >> > > > >> > > Perhaps you should consider adding RAM to your PC to improve its > >> >stability. > >> > > Win95 seems to be a bit untidy with its memory management so > >that if you > >> > > have only say, 32MB, conflicts may occur which could lead to > >crashes. I > >> > > manage fine with 96MB. I think CFTW or Outlook is a bit > >unlikely as a > >> >cause > >> > > of the problem since I use both on a Pentium 2/MMX 233MHz with Win95 > >> > > > >> > > Greetings > >> > > > >> > > Harvey Nimmo > >> > > >> > > >> >==== CFT-WIN Mailing List ==== > >> >You can contact the List Manager at: > >> >[email protected] > >> > > >> >============================== > >> >Search over 900 million names at Ancestry.com! > >> >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp > >> > > >> > >> > >> ==== CFT-WIN Mailing List ==== > >> To unsubscribe from CFT-WIN, send an e-mail message to: > >> [email protected] (for individual messages) > >> [email protected] (for Digest mode) > >> Subject: unsubscribe > >> In the body include only one word: unsubscribe > >> (Turn OFF your signature file when sending this command) > >> > >> ============================== > >> Search more than 150 million free records at RootsWeb! > >> http://searches.rootsweb.com/ > >> > > > > > >==== CFT-WIN Mailing List ==== > >You can contact the List Manager at: > >[email protected] > > > >============================== > >Search more than 150 million free records at RootsWeb! > >http://searches.rootsweb.com/ > > > > > ==== CFT-WIN Mailing List ==== > You can contact the List Manager at: > [email protected] > > ============================== > Create a FREE family website at MyFamily.com! > http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST2 >

I'm not sure what you mean by 'downgrade' You tried to read files generated by v__? with program v__? Mike At 18:12 14/03/01 -0800, you wrote: Something must have corrupted the database when I downgraded. >Here's a >warning to you all, DON'T DOWNGRADE! Although I was able to recover, >it was >hours of wasted time. >

Walt, The DIMM slots are what we're looking for! The fact that it is called slot 1 suggests there may be more! If so, you can add memory in the others without having to ditch the 32MB. If not, you could probably replace the 32MB with say 64MB or even 128MB. But before thinking of spending money you could increase your Swapfile memory, say, to 96MB. To do that, click with the right mouse button on the Desktop Explorer symbol and choose 'properties'. In the properties window select the rightmost register ('characteristics'?... sorry...don't know what the English term is, my Windows is German). Select the button at the bottom right 'Virtual memory' and set the user settings of swap memory, both minimum and maximum, to the same value, say 96MB (if there is enough memory available on your fixed disk). You will have to reboot your machine, I think, to let the new settings take effect. See if that helps. Harvey >Hi, Harvey-- > >I don't know much about these things. I know my computer came with >16 MG of memory >and I added another 32 MG. This is what "diagnostics" has to say >about the memory: > >System Board . . . . . . . . . . 16 Megabytes > DIMM Slot 1 (Unknown) . . . . 32 Megabytes >Total Compaq Memory . . . . . . 48 Megabytes > >Total Physical Windows Memory . 48584 Kbytes >Total Swapfile Memory . . . . . 48584 Kbytes > >Does that tell you anything? > >walt >[email protected] >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Harvey Nimmo" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2001 11:14 AM >Subject: AW: [CFTW] Crashes > > >> Hello again Walt, >> >> I tend to think that buying a new computer is like capitulation...it is >> really a last resort! I'm a bit surprised that 48MB is the limit on your >> machine. I had 32MB originally and would have said that 32MB is not >> enough...not sure what to expect from 48MB. If you have 3 slots >with a 16MB >> card in each then it should be possible to replace one or more >of them with >> a 64MB card. (Nowadays one can buy a single card with 64MB, >depends on the >> type of RAM your machine can handle). How many slots does your machine >> have? >> >> Harvey >> >> >> >-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- >> >Von: walterboswell1 [mailto:[email protected]] >> >Gesendet: Mittwoch, 14. März 2001 10:09 >> >An: [email protected] >> >Betreff: Re: [CFTW] Crashes >> > >> > >> >Hi, Harvey-- >> > >> >Thanks a lot for writing, Harvey. My computer came with 16MB of >memory, I >> >installed an additional 32MB. That gave me a total of 48 MB, the maximum >> >amount I >> >can get out of this machine without some extensive alterations, which I >> >don't >> >fully understand. At any rate, I was told that any major changes in my >> >computer >> >would cost more than the computer is worth; that it would be a >lot cheaper >> >in the >> >long run to just buy a new machine. Considering the rapid innovations in >> >these >> >things, that makes sense to me. What do you think? >> > >> >At any rate, thanks for writing and I appreciate your help very much. >> > >> >walt >> >[email protected] >> >----- Original Message ----- >> >From: "Harvey Nimmo" <[email protected]> >> >To: <[email protected]> >> >Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2001 1:37 PM >> >Subject: AW: [CFTW] Crashes >> > >> > >> > > Dear Walter, >> > > >> > > Perhaps you should consider adding RAM to your PC to improve its >> >stability. >> > > Win95 seems to be a bit untidy with its memory management so >that if you >> > > have only say, 32MB, conflicts may occur which could lead to >crashes. I >> > > manage fine with 96MB. I think CFTW or Outlook is a bit >unlikely as a >> >cause >> > > of the problem since I use both on a Pentium 2/MMX 233MHz with Win95 >> > > >> > > Greetings >> > > >> > > Harvey Nimmo >> > >> > >> >==== CFT-WIN Mailing List ==== >> >You can contact the List Manager at: >> >[email protected] >> > >> >============================== >> >Search over 900 million names at Ancestry.com! >> >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp >> > >> >> >> ==== CFT-WIN Mailing List ==== >> To unsubscribe from CFT-WIN, send an e-mail message to: >> [email protected] (for individual messages) >> [email protected] (for Digest mode) >> Subject: unsubscribe >> In the body include only one word: unsubscribe >> (Turn OFF your signature file when sending this command) >> >> ============================== >> Search more than 150 million free records at RootsWeb! >> http://searches.rootsweb.com/ >> > > >==== CFT-WIN Mailing List ==== >You can contact the List Manager at: >[email protected] > >============================== >Search more than 150 million free records at RootsWeb! >http://searches.rootsweb.com/ >

At 07:26 14/03/01 -0600, you wrote: >Comments on a few statements: > A split window like >>the delta function but showing all data not just the differences would be >>really useful. >Good suggestion. Thanks. In fact perhaps this should simply replace the >'delta'. Yes, this would be a good soluition since all the functions are already in the delta command. I would find a comparitive listing of all events more useful than just the differences. What do you other listmembers think about this? >>As well, this would be the best time to edit events before merging. >> Deleting the unnecessary or redundant data at this stage would be >>way more time efficient than trying to track it down in the merged db. > To do what you suggest above would be an >entirely different sort of approach - perhaps actually merging as you mess >with the list?!? Actually allowing the merge to take place one person at a >time as you mess with the list and making event changes at that point. (If >you see what I mean.) Yes that's exactly how I visualized it working. Sort of like interactive processing, rather than 'batch processing ' like now. One would merge a family group at a time, much like the drag and drop frature in the merge all relatives merge Otherwise there would have to be some sort of >external record kept of all the various events and what it was that needs >to be done to the events at the time the full merge takes place. Anyway, we >are talking some real complicated stuff here - in any case. I'd have to do >some serious thinking here. Yes I also thought of somehow 'flagging' just the events to be merged., but that seemed like it would be more compilcated than just doing the merge one group at a time. >> It would be really useful if the program >>placed any different names into notes when individuals are merged rather >>than completely discarding the name data from the secondary db. > > as soon as I added anything automatic here, it >would only satisfy one person and another would want it to do something >automatic a different way and before I know it there are a zillion >variations and even then each user will end up checking every name again >anyway because they will then realize that even if the automatic way fixed >most names there are so many that it fixed incorrectly that they'll have to >manually check each one anyway. Besides a lot of work on my end to write >such a routine for what I feel would not be much benefit. > I'm not suggesting automatic merging of names, you're right, no one would be happy with automatic combinations. I'm only suggesting that the secondary db name data be placed into a NOTE rather than being discarded as is the case now. It would then be easy to manually cut paste and edit the useful information into the main name field. Much easier than retyping or cutting and pasting the names from the log file. > >I think the Rebuild problem is related to the multiple marriage problem. >When the marriages don't get set correctly, the Rebuild attempts to repair >them. >Ira Yes, the rebuild is very powerful. and the repair function is great if the family relationships are correct, however it will only complicate mistakes in the merged db, and make them much more difficult to track and remove.. That's why I found that it was best to avoid rebuild until the merged db was completely edited. Premature rebuilding was the source of most of my db merge problems. The program's advice to rebuild immediately after a merge is misleading and perhaps should be rephrased., Mike >------------------------------------------------

Hello again Walt, I tend to think that buying a new computer is like capitulation...it is really a last resort! I'm a bit surprised that 48MB is the limit on your machine. I had 32MB originally and would have said that 32MB is not enough...not sure what to expect from 48MB. If you have 3 slots with a 16MB card in each then it should be possible to replace one or more of them with a 64MB card. (Nowadays one can buy a single card with 64MB, depends on the type of RAM your machine can handle). How many slots does your machine have? Harvey >-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- >Von: walterboswell1 [mailto:[email protected]] >Gesendet: Mittwoch, 14. März 2001 10:09 >An: [email protected] >Betreff: Re: [CFTW] Crashes > > >Hi, Harvey-- > >Thanks a lot for writing, Harvey. My computer came with 16MB of memory, I >installed an additional 32MB. That gave me a total of 48 MB, the maximum >amount I >can get out of this machine without some extensive alterations, which I >don't >fully understand. At any rate, I was told that any major changes in my >computer >would cost more than the computer is worth; that it would be a lot cheaper >in the >long run to just buy a new machine. Considering the rapid innovations in >these >things, that makes sense to me. What do you think? > >At any rate, thanks for writing and I appreciate your help very much. > >walt >[email protected] >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Harvey Nimmo" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2001 1:37 PM >Subject: AW: [CFTW] Crashes > > > > Dear Walter, > > > > Perhaps you should consider adding RAM to your PC to improve its >stability. > > Win95 seems to be a bit untidy with its memory management so that if you > > have only say, 32MB, conflicts may occur which could lead to crashes. I > > manage fine with 96MB. I think CFTW or Outlook is a bit unlikely as a >cause > > of the problem since I use both on a Pentium 2/MMX 233MHz with Win95 > > > > Greetings > > > > Harvey Nimmo > > >==== CFT-WIN Mailing List ==== >You can contact the List Manager at: >[email protected] > >============================== >Search over 900 million names at Ancestry.com! >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp >

As the original contributor to this string, I thank you all for your interest. Here's what I did to try to resolve: On Ira's advice, I downgraded a version. This caused some unusual result, it would not display all my data on the screen even though it did exist. Rebuild did not work. Then, again, on Ira's adivce, I reloaded the complete version. The same thing happened when I tried to view my original data file with 3.2. Then I tried importing my gedcom & that finally worked. Something must have corrupted the database when I downgraded. Here's a warning to you all, DON'T DOWNGRADE! Although I was able to recover, it was hours of wasted time. Ira J Lund wrote: > At 11:01 AM 3/11/01 +0100, you wrote: > >Quoting Chuck Edgerly ([email protected]): > >> I also have a P 120 and the photos load just fine. No delay at all. I am > running > >> Windows 98 2nd edition with all the updates available from misrosoft, > including the > >> new direct X and other graphics patches. Maybe others with slow loading > photos should > >> try downloading these updates. > > > >I would be surprised if CFT uses DirectX libraries. First because the > >development tools for DirectX are certainly not free (hey, this is > >*Microsoft* product...:-)), and also because this is absolutely unuseful > >except for making bloatware. > > > >So, I don't think that patching and re-patchging the operating system will > >make it faster for photos loading. > > > >You will only increase your chances of getting the system unstable...as > >usual when some patch originating from Redmond, WA goes on your hard > >disk...:-) > > > >But (for the original contributor) you're on your own... Try to patch, patch > >and re-patch....and cross your fingers at each reboot, of course! > > If DirectX is something I would have to know about and integrate into my > program then the anser is no, I don't use it. My programming language has > it's own graphic commands and I have no idea how it does it. I simply tell > it where I want to display a picture and the file name of the image. > > Ira > > ------------------------------------------------ > Mr. Ira J. Lund > E-mail: [email protected] Web: http://www.cf-software.com > > Cumberland Family Software, 385 Idaho Springs Road, Clarksville TN 37043 > > ==== CFT-WIN Mailing List ==== > You can contact the List Manager at: > [email protected] > > ============================== > Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & Celebrate > your heritage! > http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog

Mike, Good and usufull comments. I agree 100% Leonel Finotti Campinas SP Brasil [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "MJ" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Quarta-feira, 14 de Março de 2001 19:05 Subject: Re: [CFTW]gedfiles and merging > At 07:26 14/03/01 -0600, you wrote: > >Comments on a few statements: > > A split window like > >>the delta function but showing all data not just the differences would be > >>really useful. > >Good suggestion. Thanks. In fact perhaps this should simply replace the > >'delta'. > > Yes, this would be a good soluition since all the functions are already in > the delta command. > I would find a comparitive listing of all events more useful than just the > differences. > What do you other listmembers think about this? > > >>As well, this would be the best time to edit events before merging. > >> Deleting the unnecessary or redundant data at this stage would be > >>way more time efficient than trying to track it down in the merged db. > > > To do what you suggest above would be an > >entirely different sort of approach - perhaps actually merging as you mess > >with the list?!? Actually allowing the merge to take place one person at a > >time as you mess with the list and making event changes at that point. (If > >you see what I mean.) > > Yes that's exactly how I visualized it working. Sort of like interactive > processing, rather than 'batch processing ' like now. > One would merge a family group at a time, much like the drag and drop > frature in the merge all relatives merge > > Otherwise there would have to be some sort of > >external record kept of all the various events and what it was that needs > >to be done to the events at the time the full merge takes place. Anyway, we > >are talking some real complicated stuff here - in any case. I'd have to do > >some serious thinking here. > > Yes I also thought of somehow 'flagging' just the events to be merged., but > that seemed like it would be more compilcated than just doing the merge one > group at a time. > > >> It would be really useful if the program > >>placed any different names into notes when individuals are merged rather > >>than completely discarding the name data from the secondary db. > > > > as soon as I added anything automatic here, it > >would only satisfy one person and another would want it to do something > >automatic a different way and before I know it there are a zillion > >variations and even then each user will end up checking every name again > >anyway because they will then realize that even if the automatic way fixed > >most names there are so many that it fixed incorrectly that they'll have to > >manually check each one anyway. Besides a lot of work on my end to write > >such a routine for what I feel would not be much benefit. > > > > I'm not suggesting automatic merging of names, you're right, no one would > be happy with automatic combinations. > > I'm only suggesting that the secondary db name data be placed into a NOTE > rather than being discarded as is the case now. > > It would then be easy to manually cut paste and edit the useful > information into the main name field. > Much easier than retyping or cutting and pasting the names from the log file. > > > > >I think the Rebuild problem is related to the multiple marriage problem. > >When the marriages don't get set correctly, the Rebuild attempts to repair > >them. > >Ira > > > Yes, the rebuild is very powerful. and the repair function is great if the > family relationships are correct, however it will only complicate mistakes > in the merged db, and make them much more difficult to track and remove.. > That's why I found that it was best to avoid rebuild until the merged db > was completely edited. > Premature rebuilding was the source of most of my db merge problems. > The program's advice to rebuild immediately after a merge is misleading and > perhaps should be rephrased., > > Mike >