Ira Sorry to persist with this .. maybe someone else has some ideas. I have the program on a laptop and the edit function is fine but not on my pc, which would suggest it is not a Cumberland prob. I was also having a problem with the icon names in Cumberland being cut off but have solved that by changing the font size on windows .. but the edit function is still a problem .. it gets to the end of the first line and makes the alarm bell noise. Even with long names it only displays the first line and then the cursor disappears !.. I have re-installed, rebuilt etc .. no joy .. I do not know if it is related but only half the ancestral tree shows up in the 6 generation section. Could be something to do with font size ?? It is not major .. just annoying .... would appreciate any ideas. Many thanks Hugo | >| In the "Place" Editor .. if the place name is more than 51 spaces long ie. | >| the width of the box, it stops. I am getting round this by putting the | >| proper length place name into an individual's details and merging them but | >| it is very long winded. | >| | >| Is there a way of allowing longer names into the Edit box ? | | Sorry, but I do not know what you are speaking of. The place name field | allows up to 250 characters. So I don't understand why you are seeing it | stop after only 51 characters. | | Ira | | ------------------------------------------------ | Mr. Ira J. Lund | E-mail: [email protected] Web: http://www.cf-software.com | | Cumberland Family Software, 385 Idaho Springs Road, Clarksville TN 37043 | | | ==== CFT-WIN Mailing List ==== | You can contact the List Manager at: | [email protected] | | ============================== | Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family history | learning and how-to articles on the Internet. | http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library

Hi there Ira Had a thought the other day when I was doing a rebuild of my database. There is a tck box there that says re-order the events in date order .. which is fine. But when you do not have a marriage date, say, it then sends this to the bottom of the data on that person. Would it be possible to either have as an alternate or instead "Restructue in standard event order"? This way you could set up your standard events in the order you would like and Birth would come before Baptisms, Marriage before Death ( though for some it may be the same event !) etc ... So when you did a restructure all your events would be in a logical order. Just a thought Many thanks Hugo Slater

>I think I know the answer, but is there a way to print that wonderful >concise summary table that the relationship calculator produces? I tried >to print it :( , and cutting and pasting is like trying to nail jelly to a >tree. I ultimately used the relationship calculator in the report section, >exported it as a text file, then edited out the many pages of redundent >information to produce a concise report summarizing relationships between >cousins. I've shared these concise reports with cousins who find them >informative, and very helpful in visualizing our common genweb, especially >when you're cousins at 12 different levels. When you do the Relationship Report you can remove all the fields so that all you get is names. Make sure to select the Relationship Report, then click on the FIELDS button at top and make sure that as you highlight each row you select "blank" on every line. The report is real close to as concise as the one you view on screen on the Tools Menu. Ira ------------------------------------------------ Mr. Ira J. Lund E-mail: [email protected] Web: http://www.cf-software.com Cumberland Family Software, 385 Idaho Springs Road, Clarksville TN 37043

At 05:16 PM 5/8/01 -0400, you wrote: >not sure if this is on the "wish list" for report changes: > >On the Descendant Story, could we have a 'check' to turn off the repetition >of: > The parents of [name] are: > >when a couple has 13 children, this repetition makes for too many pages. >The same report on 2.51x does not have this repetition. It may be there. I will add it. (and the one in the second message also) Ira ------------------------------------------------ Mr. Ira J. Lund E-mail: [email protected] Web: http://www.cf-software.com Cumberland Family Software, 385 Idaho Springs Road, Clarksville TN 37043

At 10:52 PM 5/8/01 +0200, you wrote: >What should be added is the deafult events chosen in >options database configuration default The marriage event should be added in Option Menu -> Database Configuration ->Defaults, just as any other event you want automatically added. BUT remember that the marriage event still won't get added until you add a spouse to the person. So if you add a child no marriage event gets added since he doesn't have a spouse. Ira ------------------------------------------------ Mr. Ira J. Lund E-mail: [email protected] Web: http://www.cf-software.com Cumberland Family Software, 385 Idaho Springs Road, Clarksville TN 37043

>| In the "Place" Editor .. if the place name is more than 51 spaces long ie. >| the width of the box, it stops. I am getting round this by putting the >| proper length place name into an individual's details and merging them but >| it is very long winded. >| >| Is there a way of allowing longer names into the Edit box ? Sorry, but I do not know what you are speaking of. The place name field allows up to 250 characters. So I don't understand why you are seeing it stop after only 51 characters. Ira ------------------------------------------------ Mr. Ira J. Lund E-mail: [email protected] Web: http://www.cf-software.com Cumberland Family Software, 385 Idaho Springs Road, Clarksville TN 37043

>In the placename editor there is an option to provide latitude and longitude >information. Apart from having the information if available, is there any >present or future use far this option; for example plotting information on a >map??? If so, what has to be the proper format; Example Drachten decimal: >longitude 6.105 latitude 53.111 OR DMS longitude 53° 6' 0 N latitude 6° 5' >60 N? I really have no ideas on future use. At the time I thought it was a good idea and so I placed hte fields there - and that was as far as I got. So many other more fundamental things for a genealogy program came up - bugs and reports and other more pressing features that I have never gotten any further on ideas or plans for these fields. Currently there are not even any reports that will print thiese out - or even the place notes. So for now all they are are little references to help one when viewing the places int he Note Editor. Ira ------------------------------------------------ Mr. Ira J. Lund E-mail: [email protected] Web: http://www.cf-software.com Cumberland Family Software, 385 Idaho Springs Road, Clarksville TN 37043

Dear Ira and all, In the placename editor there is an option to provide latitude and longitude information. Apart from having the information if available, is there any present or future use far this option; for example plotting information on a map??? If so, what has to be the proper format; Example Drachten decimal: longitude 6.105 latitude 53.111 OR DMS longitude 53° 6' 0 N latitude 6° 5' 60 N? Greetings from Drachten (Netherlands), Kees Mollema. Email: mailto:[email protected] Homepage: http://members1.chello.nl/~c.mollema Genealogie: http: http://members1.chello.nl/~c.mollema/genealog

Please excuse this if it has come up before but ...................... In the "Place" Editor .. if the place name is more than 51 spaces long ie. the width of the box, it stops. I am getting round this by putting the proper length place name into an individual's details and merging them but it is very long winded. Is there a way of allowing longer names into the Edit box ? Many thanks Hugo Slater

What should be added is the deafult events chosen in options database configuration default Here in Sweden its quite common to live together without marriage ... called sambo / Mats, Karlstad Sweden > -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- > Fran: Harry [mailto:[email protected]] > Skickat: den 8 maj 2001 20:35 > Till: [email protected] > Amne: [CFTW] Marriage event > > > When adding a spouse to an individual, ver 3.06 doesn't automatically > add the 'marriage event' to that individual or their spouse. Is this the > way the program is designed, or have I missed a check box? > Harry > > > -- > Please visit my Web Site at > http://users.rcn.com/hdveatch/INDEX.HTM > > > > ==== CFT-WIN Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from CFT-WIN, send an e-mail message to: > [email protected] (for individual messages) > [email protected] (for Digest mode) > Subject: unsubscribe > In the body include only one word: unsubscribe > (Turn OFF your signature file when sending this command) > > ============================== > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp >

Ira, I guess I'm one of the few who truly appreciates the awsome beauty of what you've written. I find that the internet allows me to network and find many research cousins. A small gedfile is usually the easiest way to update each other's data. Selection lists are great!! I'm using the program to trace and document the ancestory of about six families who lived in the same region of Québec and migrated to Minnesota at about the same time. My database is approaching 7000, about 10% are direct ancestors. I think I know the answer, but is there a way to print that wonderful concise summary table that the relationship calculator produces? I tried to print it :( , and cutting and pasting is like trying to nail jelly to a tree. I ultimately used the relationship calculator in the report section, exported it as a text file, then edited out the many pages of redundent information to produce a concise report summarizing relationships between cousins. I've shared these concise reports with cousins who find them informative, and very helpful in visualizing our common genweb, especially when you're cousins at 12 different levels. Mike At 07:13 08/05/01 -0500, you wrote: > >Actually, I suspect that it is a minority of users who ever use the >Database Merge feature. I would guess that 90% of my users are basically >using the program for smaller databases (say less than 3000 to 5000 names) >and they are the only ones working in the family - meaning that they don't >have GED files or databases from relatives that are being shared - thus the >need for Split and Merge Database functions. I really don't know the >percent - just making a gut feel guess based on what I hear from users.

It's common in here in Canada too, it's called "common law" marriage I believe, it happens automatically after seven years of continuous cohabitation. The tradition is so old among the indigens that almost all tribes were matrilineal. Who knew or cared who their father was/wasn't? A person was from their mother's clan, here Wolf or Raven. Children lived in their mother's house. Men moved into the house of their wife's mother. The eldest daughter inhereted the clan house, and so on. Very practical in a mobile trading culture. Another long standing tradition is that Wolf marries Raven or vs; marrying into the same clan is still 'frowned upon' by the elders. Mike Yukon Canada At 22:52 08/05/01 +0200, you wrote: >What should be added is the deafult events chosen in >options >database configuration >default > >Here in Sweden its quite common to live together without marriage ... called >sambo > >/ Mats, Karlstad Sweden

| Please excuse this if it has come up before but ...................... | | In the "Place" Editor .. if the place name is more than 51 spaces long ie. | the width of the box, it stops. I am getting round this by putting the | proper length place name into an individual's details and merging them but | it is very long winded. | | Is there a way of allowing longer names into the Edit box ? | | Many thanks | Hugo Slater |

another for the 'wish list': The children of parents are repeating under each instead of saying 'They had the children previously listed' Karen Pastuzyn

not sure if this is on the "wish list" for report changes: On the Descendant Story, could we have a 'check' to turn off the repetition of: The parents of [name] are: when a couple has 13 children, this repetition makes for too many pages. The same report on 2.51x does not have this repetition. Karen Pastuzyn

When adding a spouse to an individual, ver 3.06 doesn't automatically add the 'marriage event' to that individual or their spouse. Is this the way the program is designed, or have I missed a check box? Harry -- Please visit my Web Site at http://users.rcn.com/hdveatch/INDEX.HTM

Dear Ira and all, In the placename editor there is an option to provide latitude and longitude information. Apart from having the information if available, is there any present or future use far this option; for example plotting information on a map??? If so, what has to be the proper format; Example Drachten decimal: longitude 6.105 latitude 53.111 OR DMS longitude 53° 6' 0 N latitude 6° 5' 60 N? Greetings from Drachten (Netherlands), Kees Mollema. Email: mailto:[email protected] Homepage: http://members1.chello.nl/~c.mollema Genealogie: http: http://members1.chello.nl/~c.mollema/genealog

>Please explain MRN's >Max Sorry about that , I intended to say FRN. David

>I was hoping that someone might have an easier way around this instead >of cutting and pasting off the bottom of the log file. >Perhaps most of the listmembers are working with more static cultures where >name variations are rare. >Those of us with immigrant blood don't have it so easy :) Actually, I suspect that it is a minority of users who ever use the Database Merge feature. I would guess that 90% of my users are basically using the program for smaller databases (say less than 3000 to 5000 names) and they are the only ones working in the family - meaning that they don't have GED files or databases from relatives that are being shared - thus the need for Split and Merge Database functions. I really don't know the percent - just making a gut feel guess based on what I hear from users. In fact, I think there are a rather significant number (say about 50%) of my users who deal with rather small databases of only a few hundred names. I regularly hear from people who only have 200, 300 or 500 names. Ira ------------------------------------------------ Mr. Ira J. Lund E-mail: [email protected] Web: http://www.cf-software.com Cumberland Family Software, 385 Idaho Springs Road, Clarksville TN 37043

Amy, yes there are infections that are carried in .doc files, and, when opened in MS Word, can spread to all other .doc files on your system. It doesn't destroy operating software, but can render all your .doc files unusable. The best way to conquer infections that put bad Macros in .doc files is to have, and use, an Anti-Virus program, have it configured properly to check all downloaded files, and to keep its virus definition files updated at least twice weekly. It's also not a bad idea to run a scan on the complete system periodically, say at least weekly. Like you, whenever I receive a .doc file, and I get them all the time, I first run McAfee Scan over the file, even thought it was checked at downloading. Can't be too careful. SgtGeorge At 09:00 AM 05/07/2001, Amy Macdonald wrote: *********START OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT********* >Sgt. George.....I heard (or read) some time ago that there is a worm >carried >along with .doc files - a Macro - which really destroys ones operating >software......so if I receive a .doc attachment from someone (even >from someone >whom I know) I do not open - I ask first! Can you shed some light >on this??? > >Thanks...Amy Macdonald - Canada. >(snip) **********END OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT**********