I have the same problem. Mike PS: I'm using Windows NT v.4 -----Original Message----- From: CFT-WIN-D-request Sent: Friday, July 13, 2001 5:56 PM To: CFT-WIN-L Cc: hdveatch Subject: [CFTW] Problem closing version 3.06 Has anyone else had this problem, after an extended session with CFTW ver 3.06/7 the program refuses to close with the mouse click onto exit. I am able to close with Alt F/X on the keyboard. I don't know if this is a problem with my system or a problem with the program. Thanks Harry

Great Ira!! Glad to hear it. We knew there was no problem with the program. Dawn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ira J Lund" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, July 13, 2001 1:30 PM Subject: Re: [CFTW] CFT-Win Virus? > At 03:32 PM 7/12/01 -0400, you wrote: > >After you have explained that the program files are NOT infected with > >any virus, worm, trojan, etc., and after you have explained that some > >Anti-Virus (AV) programs give "false positives", and then he still > >insists, all you can do is ignore him. > > He finally managed to install the program after shutting down his virus > checker first. So he is happy now. > > Ira > > > ------------------------------------------------ > Mr. Ira J. Lund > E-mail: [email protected] Web: http://www.cf-software.com > > Cumberland Family Software, 385 Idaho Springs Road, Clarksville TN 37043 > > > ==== CFT-WIN Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from CFT-WIN, send an e-mail message to: > [email protected] (for individual messages) > [email protected] (for Digest mode) > Subject: unsubscribe > In the body include only one word: unsubscribe > (Turn OFF your signature file when sending this command) > > ============================== > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp > >

Has anyone else had this problem, after an extended session with CFTW ver 3.06/7 the program refuses to close with the mouse click onto exit. I am able to close with Alt F/X on the keyboard. I don't know if this is a problem with my system or a problem with the program. Thanks Harry -- Please visit my Web Site at http://users.rcn.com/hdveatch/INDEX.HTM

Harry, Works fine for me. Floyd [SNIP] > ver 3.06/7 the program refuses to close with the mouse click onto exit. [SNIP]

At 03:32 PM 7/12/01 -0400, you wrote: >After you have explained that the program files are NOT infected with >any virus, worm, trojan, etc., and after you have explained that some >Anti-Virus (AV) programs give "false positives", and then he still >insists, all you can do is ignore him. He finally managed to install the program after shutting down his virus checker first. So he is happy now. Ira ------------------------------------------------ Mr. Ira J. Lund E-mail: [email protected] Web: http://www.cf-software.com Cumberland Family Software, 385 Idaho Springs Road, Clarksville TN 37043

After you have explained that the program files are NOT infected with any virus, worm, trojan, etc., and after you have explained that some Anti-Virus (AV) programs give "false positives", and then he still insists, all you can do is ignore him. There IS one slight possibility that one or more files in the CFTW directory/folder have been infected by a virus from another source. But, that does not mean that CFT was/is infected. Some of the more arcane viruses infect files with specific extensions, e.g., .exe, .dat, .gif, .jpg, .dbf, etc. If he received one of those infections, a file in the CFTW program may have been infected ON HIS HARD DRIVE. But that doesn't mean CFTW itself is the culprit. All you can do at this point is tell him that CFTW has been checked out by hundreds of people, that hundreds of users have checked out their systems, and that CFTW is NOT infected, and since he is convinced it IS infected, he should probably just uninstall it from his system. George At 07:58 AM 07/06/2001, Ira J Lund wrote: *********START OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT********* > >I have already checked my entire system and there are > >no viri. When I scan the self-extract install file, it > >reports that the cft-win.exe has a virus. I even did a > >manul extract to a folder and then scanned that folder > >and it again reported a virus in the same file. I > >appreciate that many other people have downloaded it, > >but my DR Solomon is updated automatically every night > >and perhaps has a later definition set than those > >others. I'm not looking to point the finger at you > >guys, I just would like to try your software but > >can't. > > >I think we visited the virus question once before. I feel quite >certain CFT >has no virus but this guy is convinced that his has. My virus >software does >not report problems. What do you tell a guy like this? > >Ira >------------------------------------------------ >Mr. Ira J. Lund >E-mail: [email protected] Web: >http://www.cf-software.com > >Cumberland Family Software, 385 Idaho Springs Road, Clarksville TN >37043 > > >==== CFT-WIN Mailing List ==== >You can contact the List Manager at: >[email protected] > >============================== >Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the >#1 >Source for Family History Online. Go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB **********END OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT**********

G'day , > I think this is my best response to him as it seems I cannot convince him > that it is ok. But someone did mention something I had not thought of. > Perhaps he got the software from somewhere other than my web site. > > Thanks everyone, I do feel reassured again that there is no virus. Just a thought. I seem to recall that you (we) are all told to shut down anti-virus applications before installing new software or you may get virus warning messages. Could that have anything to do with it? BTW - add my name to the "No Virus" list. HURU Mike CALDER http://members.optushome.com.au/mikecalder/ Researching: CALDER, DIXON, TUSON, GRACIE D&GFHS #2979

>Anyone who is unsure and cannot be reassured, should always remove >offending SW because they will never be totally happy and will more than >likely feel this is the cause of any future problems. (this is a fact, not >a critisism) I think this is my best response to him as it seems I cannot convince him that it is ok. But someone did mention something I had not thought of. Perhaps he got the software from somewhere other than my web site. Thanks everyone, I do feel reassured again that there is no virus. Ira ------------------------------------------------ Mr. Ira J. Lund E-mail: [email protected] Web: http://www.cf-software.com Cumberland Family Software, 385 Idaho Springs Road, Clarksville TN 37043

>I have downloaded and installed Ver 3.07 but when I click on Help/About >Cumberland Family Tree it says it is Ver 3.06. I seem to remember that this >came up once before. Does the current 3.07 upgrade nowshow as 3.07? I don't >think I will download it just to make that change. No. Still shows 3.06. Sorry. Ira ------------------------------------------------ Mr. Ira J. Lund E-mail: [email protected] Web: http://www.cf-software.com Cumberland Family Software, 385 Idaho Springs Road, Clarksville TN 37043

I didn't see anyone reporting checks specifically with McAfee so fwiw I also run regular scans with up to update definition files. Most recent definitions and scans of yesterday. No virus found on system, including cftw 3.07, scanning all files. cheers David Voss in a grey, chilly Auckland New Zealand Date forwarded: Sat, 7 Jul 2001 10:19:04 -0600 From: [email protected] (Harvey Nimmo) Subject: AW: [CFTW] CFT-Win Virus? <snip> > I think there is very little chance that there is a virus in the downloaded > CFTW, bearing in mind many different anti-Virus programms (including mine) > are not reporting a problem. Therefore,<snip> David B Voss 30 Dreadon Road Manurewa Manukau City 1702 New Zealand Phones: home +64 9 267 3547 mobile (worldwide) +64 21 612 965

I think there is very little chance that there is a virus in the downloaded CFTW, bearing in mind many different anti-Virus programms (including mine) are not reporting a problem. Therefore, perhaps, here is a case of a false alarm, to which most virus checkers are susceptible at some time or other and there is therefore nothing to worry about (not even about the virus checker, which after all is erring on the safe side!!!). Greetings Harvey Nimmo >I think we visited the virus question once before. I feel quite certain CFT >has no virus but this guy is convinced that his has. My virus software does >not report problems. What do you tell a guy like this? > >Ira

Ira, FWIW, I downloaded and purchased CFT-Win in June and had no report of a virus. I run NAV, and keep my definitions current. I would ask the person for the following information: * name of the file downloaded * where it was downloaded from * the date/time stamp on the file, and * the file size * The virus that DR Solomon is reporting. You can at least compare this to ensure that you're looking at the same .exe file. You could also offer to have the person send you a copy of the file so that you can inspect it yourself. Beyond that, I'm not sure there's much else you can do to convince the person that the file is clean. As an aside, I see in the Help/About that I'm running version "3.06x" even though I've installed 3.07. Is this just a mistake in the About dialog? I also pulled down and ran the upgrade, just to be sure. Thanks, Max ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ira J Lund" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 7:58 AM Subject: [CFTW] CFT-Win Virus? > >I have already checked my entire system and there are > >no viri. When I scan the self-extract install file, it > >reports that the cft-win.exe has a virus. I even did a > >manul extract to a folder and then scanned that folder > >and it again reported a virus in the same file. I > >appreciate that many other people have downloaded it, > >but my DR Solomon is updated automatically every night > >and perhaps has a later definition set than those > >others. I'm not looking to point the finger at you > >guys, I just would like to try your software but > >can't. > > > I think we visited the virus question once before. I feel quite certain CFT > has no virus but this guy is convinced that his has. My virus software does > not report problems. What do you tell a guy like this? > > Ira > ------------------------------------------------ > Mr. Ira J. Lund > E-mail: [email protected] Web: http://www.cf-software.com > > Cumberland Family Software, 385 Idaho Springs Road, Clarksville TN 37043 > > > ==== CFT-WIN Mailing List ==== > You can contact the List Manager at: > [email protected] > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB > >

I have been running 3.07 for about a month now with no problems. I just checked it again with Norton AV and it is all clear. Ian Westergaard In Cloudy, Cold & Very Frosty Central Otago New Zealand ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ira J Lund" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 11:58 PM Subject: [CFTW] CFT-Win Virus? > >I have already checked my entire system and there are > >no viri. When I scan the self-extract install file, it > >reports that the cft-win.exe has a virus. I even did a > >manul extract to a folder and then scanned that folder > >and it again reported a virus in the same file. I > >appreciate that many other people have downloaded it, > >but my DR Solomon is updated automatically every night > >and perhaps has a later definition set than those > >others. I'm not looking to point the finger at you > >guys, I just would like to try your software but > >can't. > > > I think we visited the virus question once before. I feel quite certain CFT > has no virus but this guy is convinced that his has. My virus software does > not report problems. What do you tell a guy like this? > > Ira > ------------------------------------------------ > Mr. Ira J. Lund > E-mail: [email protected] Web: http://www.cf-software.com > > Cumberland Family Software, 385 Idaho Springs Road, Clarksville TN 37043 > > > ==== CFT-WIN Mailing List ==== > You can contact the List Manager at: > [email protected] > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB > >

I have been using cft since 1998, cft-win 3, simultaneously with the most current version of Norton anti virus (now currently with 2001). I always upgrade my definitions on a weekly basis and run regular scans. I have NEVER had a virus warning from any download from cft, or any cft product! Although, I have had Email warnings of viruses from unrelated sources, I have always taken the suggested warnings from Norton and have always enjoyed a virus free computer. I have the utmost confidence in (1) Norton Anti virus and (2) cft.software. Chuck Edgerly Ed Blakeley wrote: > I have Norton anti Virus and I update it at least weekly and it is set to > scan all of my files weekly, it checks email as it comes in and checks > downloads and it has indicated no virus in any cft file. > > I have downloaded and installed Ver 3.07 but when I click on Help/About > Cumberland Family Tree it says it is Ver 3.06. I seem to remember that this > came up once before. Does the current 3.07 upgrade nowshow as 3.07? I don't > think I will download it just to make that change. > > Ed Blakeley > > ==== CFT-WIN Mailing List ==== > You can contact the List Manager at: > [email protected] > > ============================== > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp

I have Norton anti Virus and I update it at least weekly and it is set to scan all of my files weekly, it checks email as it comes in and checks downloads and it has indicated no virus in any cft file. I have downloaded and installed Ver 3.07 but when I click on Help/About Cumberland Family Tree it says it is Ver 3.06. I seem to remember that this came up once before. Does the current 3.07 upgrade nowshow as 3.07? I don't think I will download it just to make that change. Ed Blakeley

I have SOPHUS running networked on a large business system, quite often following an upgrade the virus checker will point to a file that has resided happily on disc for years (especially .exe) I had never had this response against cft. Anyone who is unsure and cannot be reassured, should always remove offending SW because they will never be totally happy and will more than likely feel this is the cause of any future problems. (this is a fact, not a critisism) Doug Ira J Lund <[email protected] To: [email protected] tware.com> cc: Subject: [CFTW] CFT-Win Virus? 06/07/01 12:58 Please respond to CFT-WIN-L >I have already checked my entire system and there are >no viri. When I scan the self-extract install file, it >reports that the cft-win.exe has a virus. I even did a >manul extract to a folder and then scanned that folder >and it again reported a virus in the same file. I >appreciate that many other people have downloaded it, >but my DR Solomon is updated automatically every night >and perhaps has a later definition set than those >others. I'm not looking to point the finger at you >guys, I just would like to try your software but >can't. I think we visited the virus question once before. I feel quite certain CFT has no virus but this guy is convinced that his has. My virus software does not report problems. What do you tell a guy like this? Ira ------------------------------------------------ Mr. Ira J. Lund E-mail: [email protected] Web: http://www.cf-software.com Cumberland Family Software, 385 Idaho Springs Road, Clarksville TN 37043 ==== CFT-WIN Mailing List ==== You can contact the List Manager at: [email protected] ============================== Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 Source for Family History Online. Go to: http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB

Further to my last email, I have updated AVG and rescanned all CFT files and zips with no virus being reported. Tim Churchill http://www.lsso.org.uk http://www.sound-recording.co.uk http://www.tim-churchill.co.uk --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.264 / Virus Database: 136 - Release Date: 02/07/01

I am still running version 3.06. I have scanned both the zip file and the installed exe file with AVG and also Systemsuite 2000 virus programs. Both theses are updated on a weekly basis, and neither detect a virus present. Tim Churchill http://www.lsso.org.uk http://www.sound-recording.co.uk http://www.tim-churchill.co.uk --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.262 / Virus Database: 132 - Release Date: 12/06/01

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 This may not change this person's mind, but here goes... I have been using CFT-Win since 1996 or 1997, and most of the time have downloaded the software from the net. I have never once gotten a virus-infected copy -- Norton Antivirus would have told me, as I keep it up to date. The few viruses I *have* had to deal with came from other sources. While (of course) this doesn't mean that some person with less-than-honorable intent could somehow cause a problem in the future, I would say that the witness of past history should be worth something. Perhaps you need to check the settings on your Dr. Solomon software -- many antivirus packages automatically brand certain disk writes as "virus activity" when it can't readily identify the source. Even the most intuitive software is really only as smart as the person operating it... I know that sometimes, less-than-complete knowledge on my part has made it appear that there was something horribly wrong when there wasn't a problem, just a setting that needed to be changed. My two cents worth. Russ Russ Whaley * [email protected] Pastor, Calvary & Zion UMCs - Kindred/Walcott ND "I support the right to arm bears" On Friday, July 06, 2001 6:58 AM, Ira J Lund [SMTP:[email protected]] wrote: > >I have already checked my entire system and there are > >no viri. When I scan the self-extract install file, it > >reports that the cft-win.exe has a virus. I even did a > >manul extract to a folder and then scanned that folder > >and it again reported a virus in the same file. I > >appreciate that many other people have downloaded it, > >but my DR Solomon is updated automatically every night > >and perhaps has a later definition set than those > >others. I'm not looking to point the finger at you > >guys, I just would like to try your software but > >can't. > > > I think we visited the virus question once before. I feel > quite certain CFT > has no virus but this guy is convinced that his has. My > virus software does > not report problems. What do you tell a guy like this? > > Ira > ------------------------------------------------ > Mr. Ira J. Lund > E-mail: [email protected] Web: > http://www.cf- software.com > > Cumberland Family Software, 385 Idaho Springs Road, > Clarksville TN 37043 > > > ==== CFT-WIN Mailing List ==== > You can contact the List Manager at: > [email protected] > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy > access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp? > sourcecode=F11HB > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP Personal Privacy 6.5.8 iQA/AwUBO0XWOc5RO8r5GUOMEQIpcgCgspwBvF5pKrlvWftY2vvh4/39Su4An0Tn EWjwioaMRYNGDFPQR5iMlYZv =9UQN -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

>I have already checked my entire system and there are >no viri. When I scan the self-extract install file, it >reports that the cft-win.exe has a virus. I even did a >manul extract to a folder and then scanned that folder >and it again reported a virus in the same file. I >appreciate that many other people have downloaded it, >but my DR Solomon is updated automatically every night >and perhaps has a later definition set than those >others. I'm not looking to point the finger at you >guys, I just would like to try your software but >can't. I think we visited the virus question once before. I feel quite certain CFT has no virus but this guy is convinced that his has. My virus software does not report problems. What do you tell a guy like this? Ira ------------------------------------------------ Mr. Ira J. Lund E-mail: [email protected] Web: http://www.cf-software.com Cumberland Family Software, 385 Idaho Springs Road, Clarksville TN 37043