Greetings: Some of you may recall that Assemblymember Anthony Pescetti authored proposed legislation (AB 1779; 2000 and AB 1368; 2001) that would have created the California Historic Cemetery Commission to work toward identifying our state's early cemeteries and reviewing the problems that plague them. Thanks to Governor Gray Davis, we didn't get our historic cemetery commission because the Governor vetoed the bill even though it passed both the state senate and assembly nearly unanimously. Had the governor not vetoed the bill, perhaps our state would be able to put together a pivotal program as Oregon has done (see at http://www.shpo.state.or.us/news.php?id=371 or below). It is incomprehensible to me as a Californian, that our great state could be outdone by Oregon, a state of great natural resources but not necessarily of the financial wealth California has generally enjoyed. If you still believe the State of California has an obligation to help protect, preserve and conserve our state's historic cemeteries, I would invite you all to send that message to Gray Davis. mailto:governor@governor.ca.gov . Ask him: How is it Oregon can afford to attend to the needs of its' historic cemeteries while California ignores them at every step? Why did you really vetoe AB 1779 in 2000? (It's a receiving mailbox, but maybe if enough of us send him the message, the next time this matter comes up, it will be enacted.) You might wish to copy your own state representatives to let them know how you feel. If you live in a county where they are allowing your historic cemeteries to be bulldozed or neglected off the face of this earth, you might want to check the new California Saving Graves website at http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ca/state/ . I am the El Dorado County Coordinator for California Saving Graves and have posted some background on California's laws, one of which VESTED TITLE TO THE PUBLIC CEMETERIES IN THE PEOPLE and, through the people, the board of supervisors of the counties are the authority for their management and control. If no one is minding the store when it comes to your county's historic cemeteries, you might wish to review some of the law. The El Dorado County site is linked to the California Saving Graves site or you may see it direct at http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ca/county/eldorado/ . Every cemetery lost in this state may represent a break in information of family histories yet to be discovered. Every cemetery lost in this state represents yet another stitch dropping out of the moral fabric of our society. We need to get together now and work together to stop the decay, neglect, desecration and obliteration of our state's historic burying grounds. Sincerely, Sue Silver El Dorado County, CA (The press release below is found on the Oregon State Historic Preservation Office website. It is a state cemetery association created by the Oregon state legislature. This is similar to what we could have had, had Gray Davis not vetoed Mr. Pescetti's bill in 2000.) Survey of historic cemeteries launched Survey attached to this release April 25th, 2002 Contact Name: Mirra Meyer, 503-378-4168, ext. 335 Contact Email: Mirra.Meyer@state.or.us #02-29 For immediate release: The Oregon Pioneer Cemetery Commission launched its spring survey of historic cemeteries today, continuing efforts to build a registry and acquire up-to-date information on the condition of historic burial sites throughout the state. Commission Coordinator Mirra Meyer said the survey will provide "essential information" needed to develop a cemetery preservation grants program. "We're asking individual volunteers, school groups and service and special interest organizations to help us gather information on the conditions of historic cemeteries and gravesites of people who died before February 14, 1909," said Meyer. "We're hoping they will fill out the questionnaires as they prepare cemeteries for Memorial Day observances and make annual visits to family plots." June 10 is the deadline for returning questionnaires that will provide data for this year's inventory. She stressed, however, that the commission welcomes survey information at any time. Survey forms can be downloaded (Acrobat required) or acquired by e-mailing Meyer at mirra.meyer@state.or.us. The questionnaires also can be acquired through regular mail by writing to Meyer at SHPO, 1115 Commercial Street NE, Suite 2, Salem, OR 97301-1012.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Bahr/Hunt Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/CY.2ADI/266 Message Board Post: I'd really appreciate it if someone could get me a copy of the obit for Kermit C. Bahr who passed away in Santa Paula on 09/02/1984. I am interested in his descendants as his wife is a kin. Thank you!

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/CY.2ADI/265 Message Board Post: I would like to find my long-lost friend, Doris Marsh Freeman. Any info would be appreciated. Husband, Dave , should be a RETIRED school teacher, formerly taught in Santa Ana/ Orange/ Anaheim area. Doris former employee of Los Angeles Times. Sons, Ross, Roger, (and Travis?) One daughter, Jeanne Anne. Any information whatever would be much appreciated !!! Doris was my bridesmaid some fifty-two and a half years ago.

Dear Californians and everybody else out there interested in the future of genealogy, I just went to www.rootsweb.com and was shocked to see that the California legislature is trying to pass a law that will severely limit access to birth and death records in California. I know that I wish they would give us more access and not less. It is tough enough just going on birth certificates, marriage certificates,death certificates and census records, but now they want to take that away from us too. It wasn't long ago that the federal government raised social security records from what I recall being $3 to $27. That was a major blow to family history enthusiasts. This could be even worse. It will be bad enough if this law passes in California, but then the slippery slope effect might take place where other states follow California's lead and limit access to public records as well. I know that I would be very disappointed if that were the case. I read recently that genealogy is by far the number one hobby in the U.S. I know that I sure love it, but I never knew it was that popular. Please go to www.rootsweb.com and see more about this genealogical atrocity, and please write to the governor and Senators Speier and Bowen about Senate Bill 1614. Let's stop this here and now! Russ Lentz P.S. I will post information on this bill below. California Birth and Death Records Senate Bill 1614 The California Senate is now considering legislation that would reduce the information available in the birth and death record indexes rendering them significantly less useful and/or limit the use and access by genealogical researchers and family historians. That which to date has been available as a matter of law, would be unavailable as a matter of law, except by restricted access through a limited index in California County Clerk's offices. While we understand concerns raised about privacy and identity, we hope that those involved in determining the future accessibility of these records will balance their great and proven family history public value against privacy and identity concerns. MyFamily.com considers these records to be primary to the pursuit of discovering an individual's heritage and history; in fact, central to the human need that answers the yearning deep inside each of us to know who we are and from where we came. If you are concerned about this loss, and the fact that the legislation if passed might mean other states would follow suit, you can contact the relevant Senators and Senate Committees by sending an e-mail regarding your thoughts. This bill will go to the floor of the Senate for a vote very soon so do not delay in contacting your senator…… · State Governor: governor@governor.ca.gov · Senator Speier: senator.speier@sen.ca.gov · Senator Bowen: senator.bowen@sen.ca.gov · All of the above Details on the status of the legislation can be found at: http://info.sen.ca.gov/cgi-bin/pagequery?type=sen_bilinfo&site=sen& title=Bill+Information Just type SB1614 in the space for "Bill number." National Genealogical Society (NGS) and the Federation of Genealogical Societies (FGS) speak out on this issue. P.S. II I am looking for my long lost relatives that were last known to live in the San Francisco area, we believe: Mary Neumann (married name Cowan or something spelled like that). She had a son, but they left Pennsylvania around the time of World War II, and my grandmother cannot remember the name of the son. Her brother Herman (nicknames: Louie and Hermie) Neumann also moved to California as well as her brother Frederick (Freddie) Neumann. We think Mary was born about 1914 and her brother Herman in about 1912 and her brother Freddie in about 1908. Mary's husband was a mailman back in Pittsburgh, but I think he died before she left for CA. I could be wrong though. Mary's parents were August (nickname: Albert) Neumann and Katherine M. (nickname: Kitty) White. My grandmother is just dying to know what ever happened to her cousins.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Census Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/CY.2ADI/264 Message Board Post: The USGenWeb Census Project is pleased to announce the completion of the following census transcription. 1880 Ventura County ED 103 http://www.rootsweb.com/~cenfiles/ca/ventura/1880/ed103/ Abstracted by Guyula Adlard; Second Transcriber Needed [NOTE: For more information on Ventura County, California, Please visit the Ventura County CAGenWeb page at http://www.cagenweb.com/re/ventura/] 1880 Ventura County ED 104 http://www.rootsweb.com/~cenfiles/ca/ventura/1880/ed104/ Abstracted by Guyula Adlard; Second Transcriber Needed [NOTE: For more information on Ventura County, California, Please visit the Ventura County CAGenWeb page at http://www.cagenweb.com/re/ventura/] 1880 Ventura County ED 105 http://www.rootsweb.com/~cenfiles/ca/ventura/1880/ed105/ Abstracted by Guyula Adlard; Second Transcriber Needed [NOTE: For more information on Ventura County, California, Please visit the Ventura County CAGenWeb page at http://www.cagenweb.com/re/ventura/] This transcription was made available due to the dedication and effort of the transcriber(s) and will now benefit researchers everywhere. Other New Additions to the project are online at http://www.rootsweb.com/~cenfiles/nu/index.htm Please visit the USGenWeb Census Project at http://www.rootsweb.com/~census/ if you are interested in transcribing any county of any federal census records. A copy of all transcriptions done for this project are submitted to the appropriate state File Manager for inclusion in the USGenWeb Archives. Sincerely, Maggie Stewart-Zimmerman Coordinator, USGenWeb Census Project http://www.rootsweb.com/~census/

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Butler, Beem, Fuller, Coltrell, Clevenger Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/CY.2ADI/263 Message Board Post: Looking for information about descendants of Garland "Dock" Butler (1902-1961) and Eppie Bullington Butler (1903-____), who came to Ventura County, CA from Texas in 1934. One daughter married Arthur George Beem; another daughter married Walter Wayne Fuller; a third daughter married James Robert Coltrell; and a fourth daughter married Doyal Wayne Clevenger.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/CY.2ADI/257.2 Message Board Post: contact privately as I may have found one.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: FIELDS, BOLTON, CORVARRUBIAS, MALONE Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/CY.2ADI/262 Message Board Post: I think Dorothy Marie LESTER born 26 Aug 1924 in Cooper, Delta co, TX married 3 times -to Mr. MALONE, Mr BOLTON and 3rd 17 Feb 1972 in Ventura, CA to Billy Jack FIELDS. He died 10 Jan 1994 in Phoenix, AZ. This is the obituary from the Ventura co, CA newspaper for Dorothy M. FIELDS who died of cancer 9 Nov 1980. "Services for Dorothy M. FIELDS, 56, Ventura [CA], will be at 10 A.M. Wednesday at the Ted Mayr Loma Vista Chapel, with the Rev. R. L. Hooper officiating. Burial will be at Ivy Lawn Memorial Park. Mrs. Fields died Sunday in a Ventura [CA] hospital after a long illness. She was born August 26, 1924, in Cooper, Texas, and was a 27-year county resident, coming from Texas. She is survived by husband, Billy, parents Mr. and Mrs. Hobson LESTER of Denton, Texas; sons Thomas E., Jonnie H. and George W. MALONE all of Texas; stepson Jack E. FIELDS of Ventura [CA]; daughters Dorothy Ann BARNES of Texas and Judy Marie BOLTON of Ventura; sisters Winnie CORBETT and Imogene COMBS of Texas, and Martha CORVARRUBIAS of El Rio, CA, 27 grandchildren and one great-grandchild. Friends may call at the Chapel until 5 tonight and from 9 a.m. to 9 p.m. Tuesday". ----end----- Here parents, Hobson and Susie LESTER lived in Cooper, Delta co, TX and had at least 4 daughters: Winnie, Imogene, Dorothy and Martha. When they died their residence was Leesburg, Camp co, TX. Please contact me with information about any of the above: Mary K. Ward, 1432 Yeardley Drive, Richmond, Virginia 23225; ph: 804-232-9338. Thanks.

For anyone interested, here is the most recent Senate Analyses of the effect of SB 1614's statement of intent to protect the confidentiality of birth and death records. http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/pub/bill/sen/sb_1601-1650/sb_1614_cfa_20020605_100043_sen_floor.html Sue Silver

Taylor,I had a uncle named taylor.Kenneth taylor he had a brother named Harold taylor,they lived in Butte Co.,CA..The only reason I mentioned this is my cousin (Butch)uncle kenneth's son was named William P. Taylor.Coincidence maybe?Linda > [Original Message] > From: <TAYLORRANCH@HCTC.NET> > To: <CAVENTUR-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: 6/3/2002 1:54:47 PM > Subject: [CAVentura] TAYLOR, WILLIAM P. > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Surnames: TAYLOR > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/CY.2ADI/260 > > Message Board Post: > > William P. Taylor b. 3Nov1869/70, AR m. 1897 to O.M.(Margaret) b. Jun1878, MO. Moved MO to CA about 1910, worked Ventura Refining from 1916. Lived Fillmore, Ca. in 1925, moved to Coalinga in 1931. Children: ALMA b. May 1900, MO; JOE had dau. Arleen b.Jun1927 & son Bob, lived Ventura; MAUDE taught at Ojai & Hueneume 1927-1930; HELEN lived Los Angeles, husband worked Warner Bros.; MARGARET lived S of Fillmore, husband owned walnut orchard; JACK worked Seaside Refinery in Ventura 1931. Looking for any info on my grandfather's half-brother Will & his family. > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 --- Linda Hazen --- cuppycakes3@earthlink.net --- EarthLink: The #1

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/CY.2ADI/226.1.1 Message Board Post: Thanks, Margo, All help greatly appreciated. elmorgan@peoplepc.com

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/CY.2ADI/257.1.1.1 Message Board Post: I'm sorry that we are not cousins also. I really do think that we probably are related in some way as I grew up in Oxnard and Port Hueneme. My grandparents were pastors of a church in El Rio. I have an uncle who owned a construction company in Vta. Co. and lived in Santa Paula until a couple of years ago. If you can find any connection please let me know. Sharron Weedon

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Gonzales Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/CY.2ADI/261 Message Board Post: I am researching my grandfather's side of the family. My father just passed away, so I have very little information. I know that my grandfather was born in Ventura, CA, June 6, 1911. He was one of thirteen children. I have the names of 10. They are Tony, Videl, Lolo, David, Jose, Irene (Garcia), Dolores (Hernandez), Lupe, Mary, and Rosa. I know that some of the extended family is still in the area. If you know anything about this family please let me know. Thank you for your time. Adrienne NVCGWife@wi.rr.com

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: TAYLOR Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/CY.2ADI/260 Message Board Post: William P. Taylor b. 3Nov1869/70, AR m. 1897 to O.M.(Margaret) b. Jun1878, MO. Moved MO to CA about 1910, worked Ventura Refining from 1916. Lived Fillmore, Ca. in 1925, moved to Coalinga in 1931. Children: ALMA b. May 1900, MO; JOE had dau. Arleen b.Jun1927 & son Bob, lived Ventura; MAUDE taught at Ojai & Hueneume 1927-1930; HELEN lived Los Angeles, husband worked Warner Bros.; MARGARET lived S of Fillmore, husband owned walnut orchard; JACK worked Seaside Refinery in Ventura 1931. Looking for any info on my grandfather's half-brother Will & his family.

Hi Marc, The El Dorado County Pioneer Cemeteries Commission (EDCPCC) website is now online. It may be accessed at this URL: http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ca/county/eldorado1/. There is already a separate cemetery page for Cold Springs Cemetery if you would like to list it separately from the GenWeb site. That URL is: http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ca/county/eldorado1/Cold_Springs.htm. I'm kind of new at this, so I hope these will work. If not, please let me know. I will keep you updated as other cemetery pages are uploaded to the site. If you have any questions, please let me know. Thanks! Sue

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/CY.2ADI/244.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Thank you, Mary. It was a long job, but worth it. And it was fun to see all the names I recognized, relatives, friends of family, even the parish priest who was still in Ventura when I was a child! Margo

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/CY.2ADI/244.1.1 Message Board Post: Margo: I would put your name up in lights if I could. Your job of abstracting the Ventura Census is a wonderful contribution to the genealogy resources in Ventura County. Thank you so much. Mary

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/CY.2ADI/226.1 Message Board Post: I've just abstracted the 1900 census for Ventura County, and recalled the name PHILBROOK, so I checked my sheets, and there was one Philbrook family in the city of Ventura then. I don't know if it's connected to your, but the head of the house was William PHILBROOK born Sept 1864, age 35, married 11 years, from Illinois, parents both born in Illinois, a blacksmith. His wife was Pauline H. born Jul 1866, age 33, born in MN, parents both of NY. They had two daughters, Majella E. age 10 and Cecilia M. age 8, both born in CA. They lived on Meta Street, I think toward the west end of town, in ED 169, p. 251B. Hope this is helpful to you. Margo Stapleton, Ventura CA

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/CY.2ADI/244.1 Message Board Post: Just a slight correction on Maggie Stewart's message. I was the one who abstracted this census, and my name does show up when you go to the link. But after copying and then typing into the CenTrans form well over 4000 names, I do like to see my name up in "lights"!! I hope many of you will find it useful. I've sent in the rest of the county, for a total of 14,000 plus names for the entire county, but it may take awhile before the other E.D.'s go on line.....a long job, but fascinating and worth the effort, I think. More people should sign up for this project. Margo Stapleton Ventura, CA

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Ward, Valentine, and Argabrite. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/CY.2ADI/259 Message Board Post: James Joseph Ward immigrated from Ireland about 1851, with his younger sister Margaret Ward (my great-grandmother). They settled in Newark NJ. After learning the brick laying trade, James traveled to both South and Central America, and eventually ended up in Ventura County. He died Dec 8, 1910 in Montalvo CA. I am trying to learn more about him, and his family of 7 children. Two of his sons married Valentine girls, and a grand-daughter married an Argabrite, so I am also interested in those surnames.