This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Hartnett, Maddux,Fitzgerald,Lynch,McGrath,Abbitt,Scanlon,Ross Classification: Cemetery Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/CY.2ADI/276 Message Board Post: HELP!! Does anyone know how many cemeteries there are in El Rio??? I finally found a missing member of my husbands family and her death certificate states...Buried..El Rio 11/18/1936. I can't find anything on the net.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Potts Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/CY.2ADI/275 Message Board Post: If anyone could do an obit lookup for the following person, I'd greatly appreciate it! Potts, Noel G. birth: 29 Dec 1932 died: Oct 1986, Port Hueneme, Ventura, CA Thanks, Mary Ann

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/CY.2ADI/257.2.1 Message Board Post: Was your message for me or for Bill Kizer? If for me please contact me at sharronw@midmo.com and we can make arrangements for further communications. Thank you

Hi All, I live in Oxnard, California in Ventura County. Would someone please tell me where I would go to find obits in Newspapers in Ventura County? I would like to find my Uncle's obit in the Ventura newspaper. Could someone tell me the best library in Ventura County that has the best Genealogy section in it. And the one that has the 2nd best. I don't have many ancestors in California to look up. Mine are on the east coast. I got on this list in 1999 to help others who would like info from Ventura County. I am happy to say that I have been able to help a few with headstone pictures. Alice Johnson Oxnard, California Email: AliceJ@isle.net

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Boone, Chadwick Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/CY.2ADI/274 Message Board Post: Elias W. Boone, born in Knox County, Missouri in 1848, is my 1st cousin 3 times removed. I found him in the 1920 at age 71, in the Census in Ventura CA with John Boone, nephew, age 26, born Oklahoma, father born Missouri, mother born in Kansas. His niece Pearl is also there, age 19, born in Arkansas. Who are these children? Who are their parents? Is anyone else researching these Boones? Right below them on the census is the William Chadwick family. I believe they are also related. Is anyone researching them? Please see my genealogy website at: http://www.lisagene.com Thank you. Lisa

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/CY.2ADI/273 Message Board Post: Looking for any information on Lincoln Shively who lived in Santa Paula and died in the 1930's. He was a great uncle of mine. There was also an artist in Santa Paula named Douglas Shively. I don't know if the two were related.

Apparently there is another effort underway to try to stop SB 1614. And some changes that are noted below. Thought it was worth sending along. Sue Silver El Dorado County ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pamela Dallas" <pbdallas@earthlink.net> To: <CEMETERY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2002 7:22 AM Subject: [Old Bones CEMETERY-L] FW: Action Alert on SB 1614 > > This is the latest message from Iris Carter Jones, Legislative Coordinator > for the Genealogical & Historical Council of Sacramento Valley and the > California State Genealogical Alliance. > > ALERT > > Well, our esteemed Senator announced this afternoon that the Hearing > for SB1614 WILL BE HEARD on July 1, 2002. It is imperative that we > take the time to write the Assembly Judiciary Committee of our > objections. > > The Hearing will take place immediately following the Floor Session > scheduled Monday at 11 a.m. What time is the Hearing? I am sorry but > there is no way to tell. > > The Legislation will have floor session Saturday and Sunday [working > on the budget] , so there will be staff in their offices to received > you fax and Email messages. > > I am including below the Alert Statement sent by BastardNations which > will give you more details, or check my last report, June 27, 2002. > Jean has also furnished us with the list of the Committee members and > how to reach them. > > We also received information that the following language has been > removed from the bill. Obviously, they figured out that it was > unconstitutional. > > Section 1 > (d) (1) An individual, corporation, or other business entity that > purchased a comprehensive index prepared by the State Registrar > pursuant to subdivision (a) from the State Registrar prior to > December 31, 2001, may not use, or sell, share, or disclose any of > the information contained therein to a third party. > (2) Any person who, in violation of this section uses, sells, > shares, or discloses any information provided pursuant to this > section, or who uses information provided pursuant to this section in > a manner other than as authorized pursuant to this section, may be > denied further access to any personally identifying information or > confidential information maintained by the department. That person > shall also be subject to the assessment of a civil penalty by the > department in the amount of ____ ($____). The penalty provided in > this section shall not be construed as restricting any remedy, > criminal, provisional, or otherwise, provided by law for the benefit > of the department or any person. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Steffen, Richard" <Richard.Steffen@sen.ca.gov> > Sent: Friday, June 28, 2002 2:58 PM > On Fri, 28 Jun 2002 14:06:28 -0700, "Jean" <acconet@attbi.com> wrote: > > NOTE: The Bastard Nations has organized a rally for 12 noon on the > South Steps of the Capital with Speakers from opposition groups and > media coverage. You are invited to join the rally. If you can come > let me know. My compliments to Jean and her team for moving so quickly > to get this rally back on track. > > --------------------------------------------------------- > ACTION ALERT: > > URGENT ACTION NEEDED IN CALIFORNIA! ACCESS TO BIRTH INDEX UNDER > ATTACK! TELL CALIFORNIA STATE ASSEMBLY JUDICIARY COMMITTEE MEMBERS: > VOTE NO ON SB1614! PRESERVE PUBLIC ACCESS TO CALIFORNIA BIRTH AND > DEATH INDICES. > > SB1614 was passed by the California Senate and will now be heard by > the California State Assembly Judiciary Committee on MONDAY, JULY 1st. > This bill is trying to zip through under the radar,and must be > derailed NOW. Please call, fax, and e-mail ALL MEMBERS OF THE > CALIFORNIA STATE ASSEMBLY JUDICIARY COMMITTEE TODAY and urge a DO > NOT PASS vote on SB1614. Fax and e-mail should be sent by FRIDAY, JUNE > 28th. The bill, sponsored by Senator Jackie Speier, seeks to remove > California's birth and death indices from the public domain, where > they have been generally available to the public since 1905. The > passage of this bill will transform a century of public information > into closely guarded state secrets. > > SB1614 would foster secrecy in government. Citizens would no longer be > able to access government-held, public information on their own > histories and identities. This bill would create a right of > confidentiality that has never before existed. The birth and death > indexes are not and have never been personally owned, confidential > information; they are and have always been public records. SB1614 > seeks to reverse a century-long free flow of public information by > placing the use of both indexes back under strict government > regulation. > > The birth and death indices are used extensively for genealogical and > historical research, population studies, public health queries and > public policy research. SB1614 will do little to help the problem it > was intended to address - identity theft. According to the First > Amendment Coalition, most identity theft occurs through the literal > theft of mail, purses, and wallets by friends, relatives, neighbors, > and strangers - not through use of the birth and death indices. > > SUMMARY OF SB1614 > > 1. This bill would remove the comprehensive birth and death indices > from protection of the California Public Records Act. Instead, it > would make the indices confidential information - except to government > agencies. > > 2. This bill would prohibit a government agency from selling or > releasing these indices. This bill would also prohibit specified > businesses and individuals, who legally purchased the indices from the > State prior to December 31, 2001, from releasing and sharing with > others. The bill authorizes a civil penalty to enforce this > prohibition. > > 3. This bill would require the State Registrar to establish a > separate, NON comprehensive electronic birth and death indices, > available for public inspection at county recorders' offices > statewide and at the office of the State Registrar. The information to > be included in the non comprehensive indices will be determined by the > State Registrar. No printing will be allowed at these special > computer terminals. Individuals who wish to view > the non comprehensive birth or death index must certify, UNDER PENALTY > OF PERJURY, that the information they view will not be used for > criminal purposes. > > 4. This bill would permit the release of SPECIFIED personal > information to financial institutions and consumer credit reporting > agencies, for the sole purpose of determining if the person whose > information is being released is still living. > > Read the full text at: > http://info.sen.ca.gov/pub/bill/sen/sb_1601-1650/sb_1614_bill_20020625_amend > ed_asm.html > > > Please share this information with any lists you are on. > > * * * CONTACT INFORMATION * * * > > Send one copy of your letter to the Judiciary Committee and one to > each committee member. > > California State Assembly Judiciary Committee > 1020 N Street, Room 104 > Sacramento, CA, 95814 > Fax: (916) 319-2188 > E-mail: vanessa.cisneros@asm.ca.gov > > Ellen M. Corbett (Chair) > State Capitol > Sacramento, CA 94249-0001 > Phone: (916) 319-2018 > Fax: (916) 319-2118 > E-mail: Assemblymember.Corbett@assembly.ca.gov > > Tom Harman (Vice-Chair) > State Capitol, Room 5158 > Sacramento, CA 95814 > Phone: (916) 319-2067 > Fax: (916) 319-2167 > E-mail: Assemblymember.Harman@assembly.ca.gov > > Patricia C. Bates > State Capitol, Room 6031 > Sacramento, CA 95814 > Phone: (916) 319-2073 > Fax: (916) 319-2173 > E-mail: assemblymember.bates@assembly.ca.gov > > Robert Pacheco > State Capitol, Room 4177 > Sacramento, CA 95814 > Phone: (916) 319-2060 > Fax: (916) 319-2160 > E-mail: assemblymember.robert.pacheco@asm/ca/gov > > Rod Pacheco > State Capitol, Room 2130 > Sacramento, CA 95814 > Phone: (916) 319-2064 > Fax: (916) 319-2164 > E-mail: rod.pacheco@asm.ca.gov > > John A. Dutra > State Capitol > P.O. Box 942849 > Sacramento, CA 94249-0001 > Phone: (916) 319-2020 > Fax: (916) 319-2120 > E-mail: Assemblymember.Dutra@assembly.ca.gov > > Hannah-Beth Jackson > State Capitol > P.O. Box 942849 > Sacramento, CA 94249-0001 > Phone: (916) 319-2035 > Fax: (916) 319-2135 > E-mail: Assemblymember.Jackson@assembly.ca.gov > > Howard Wayne > State Capitol > P.O. Box 942849 > Sacramento, CA 94249-0001 > Phone: (916) 319 -2078 > Fax: (916) 319 - 2178 > E-mail: Assemblymember.Wayne@assembly.ca.gov > > Darrell Steinberg > State Capitol > P.O. Box 942849 > Sacramento, CA 94249-0001 > Phone: (916) 319-2009 > Fax: (916) 319-2109 > E-mail: assemblymember.steinberg@assembly.ca.gov > > John Longville > State Capitol > P.O. Box 942849 > Sacramento, CA 94249-0001 > Phone: (916) 319-2062 > Fax: (916) 319-2162 > E-mail: Assemblymember.Longville@assembly.ca.gov > > Juan Vargas > State Capitol, Room 2188 > Sacramento, CA 94249-0001 > Phone: (916) 319-2079 > Fax: (916) 319-2179 > Email: Assemblymember.Vargas@assembly.ca.gov > > Kevin Shelley > State Capitol, Room 319 > Sacramento, California 95814 > Phone: (916) 319-2012 > Fax: (916) 319-2112 > E-mail: Kevin.Shelley@asm.ca.gov > > Also send a copy of your Assembly Judiciary Committee letter to these > three additional addresses: > > Governor Gray Davis > State Capitol Building > Sacramento, CA 95814 > Phone: 916-445-2841 > Fax: 916-445-4633 > E-mail: governor@governor.ca.gov > > Assembly Republican Caucus > Mark Redmond > Fax: 916-319-3902 > > Bastard Nation > E-mail: letters@bastards.org > > > -- > Iris Carter Jones > CSGA Legislative Coordinator > > > > ==== CEMETERY Mailing List ==== > This list is for Cemetery RESTORATION and PRESERVATION > NOT a surname search list > Our website is at: > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Falls/7965/cemlistp.htm > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: tate Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/CY.2ADI/272 Message Board Post: I am in desperate need of the obit for my uncle who I have been searching for years...Here is what I know: Jack Tate b- 9/10/1926 d- 7/17/1997 He died in Ventura according to the Ca. death index...If anyone could do this I would gladly pay for postage...This has been my brick wall for years and I would like to be ab le to find the names of my cousins who would have been his survivors thanks rae

Goodmorning List Try to find out more about Dr. Jesse Alexander King, Jesse was born 25 Dec 1875 Roodhouse, Greene County, IL, went medical school in St. Louis MO 1905, found in 1920 Census Box Elder, Utah, the 1928 Ojai Directory and the 1930 Census page 139A, Ojai CA. Died 31Mar1948 Ventura CA Thanks Kent

Good morning, I have received copies of a number of letters people are sending in opposition to this Bill that is now moving through the Assembly. In looking at the history posting on the website, this Bill only passed the Senate by 5 votes and the wording had been changed to just a statement of intent. The new wording of the Bill was amended after the Senate vote when it came before the Assembly. Since the Senate passed the "intent" Bill with such a slim margin, I believe those who oppose this Bill should concentrate your opposition statements and messages on members of the Assembly and the Governor. There are better ways to control identity thieves than this Bill. If we have to lock up every piece and minutia of public information to prevent this, we may as well just lock our front doors and never step outside again. There is far more information about all of us floating around the computers of corporate America that is far more valuable than our birth or death certificates. The government requires our SSI information be included on Death Certificates. Let them figure a better way to protect that information that doesn't punish genealogists and family researchers the way this one does. Sue Silver El Dorado County, CA My apologies to anyone who might not be interested in this subject. The List resources I've placed on my email group are aimed primarily at California counties.

My Senate representative is Rico Oller. This was his staff's reply to me regarding this issue. Perhaps his suggestion to let Gray Davis know how we feel is a good one. Anyone wishing to tell the Governor we think this Bill to restrict access to Vital Statistics is uncalled for, and more detrimental to the public at large than it will be to identity thieves, please email him at: Governor Gray Davis: mailto:governor@governor.ca.gov If this Bill makes it through the Assembly, Governor Davis will be our only hope to veto it. Sue Silver El Dorado County ----- Original Message ----- From: Senator Oller To: 'Sue Silver' Sent: Friday, June 28, 2002 12:59 PM Subject: RE: Senate Bill 1614 - OPPOSE Dear Sue: Thank you for contacting my office regarding your opposition to Senate Bill 1614. I am pleased to have the opportunity to respond to your concerns. As you can see by the votes below, on June 10, 2002, I voted "No" on this bill. Unfortunately, it passed and is currently awaiting review in the Assembly. I recommend contacting the Governor and voicing your opposition as well. I appreciate you informing me of your views on this issue. Informing me of your opinions, tells me that people in our community are concerned about what the government is doing. I hope you will continue to contact me and feel free to share your concerns. If you have any further questions or concerns regarding this or any other matter, please do not hesitate to contact me. I consider it an honor to represent you in the State Senate. Sincerely, Senator Rico Oller VOTES - ROLL CALL MEASURE: SB 1614 AUTHOR: Speier TOPIC: Public records: vital statistics. DATE: 06/10/2002 LOCATION: SEN. FLOOR MOTION: Senate 3rd Reading SB1614 Speier (AYES 21. NOES 16.) (PASS) AYES **** Alarcon Alpert Burton Costa Escutia Figueroa Karnette Kuehl Machado Murray O'Connell Ortiz Peace Perata Romero Scott Sher Soto Speier Torlakson Vasconcellos NOES **** Ackerman Battin Bowen Brulte Dunn Haynes Johannessen Johnson Knight Margett McClintock McPherson Monteith Morrow Oller Poochigian ABSENT, ABSTAINING, OR NOT VOTING ********************************* Chesbro Polanco Vincent -----Original Message----- From: Sue Silver [mailto:ssilver1951@jps.net] Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 7:32 AM To: Assemblymember.Corbett@assembly.ca.gov Cc: Thomas "Rico" Oller Subject: Senate Bill 1614 - OPPOSE Ellen M. Corbett, Chair Assembly Committee on Judiciary Dear Madam Chair: My family came to California in 1850. My great-great-grandfather died in 1897, NOT in Sutter County as we had always believed, but in Amador County. Had we not had our public vital records information available, I would not have found this information out, for legislation such as SB 1614 would require me to go to extraordinary, cumbersome and financial lengths just to learn where my OWN family died and is buried. Please do not subject CALIFORNIANS to this wasteful legislation that will only hurt millions of good, law abiding citizens simply as a feeble attempt to thwart those who would commit crimes anyway. Respectfully, Sue Silver 3782 Sheridan Road Cameron Park, CA 95682 (530) 676-2889 Email: ssilver1951@jps.net

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Elben, Morter Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/CY.2ADI/271 Message Board Post: 1920 census, Venura, Co, Venura Twp. County Hospital. Elben, Edward R. M, W, 38, Cook, born Ohio cannot make out whether S or M for single or married. Looks like it was written over by census taker. This was on the page for the hospital, listing all the inmates, then staff. Staff included 2 cooks & several nurses. He was apparently living there? I would have thought the staff would have been counted at their own homes, unless they lived at the hospital. Would appreciate hearing from anyone research the name ELBEN. Thank you.

(Note to those to whom this is forwarded: I included my full address in the original email to Assemblymember Corbett.) Ellen M. Corbett, Chair Assembly Committee on Judiciary Dear Madam Chair: My family came to California in 1850. My great-great-grandfather died in 1897, NOT in Sutter County as we had always believed, but in Amador County. Had we not had our public vital records information available, I would not have found this information out, for legislation such as SB 1614 would require me to go to extraordinary, cumbersome and financial lengths just to learn where my OWN family died and is buried. Please do not subject CALIFORNIANS to this wasteful legislation that will only hurt millions of good, law abiding citizens simply as a feeble attempt to thwart those who would commit crimes anyway. Respectfully, Sue Silver Cameron Park, CA 95682

----- Original Message ----- From: <comments@www.leginfo.ca.gov> To: <SSILVER1951@JPS.NET> Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 5:19 AM Subject: OFFICIAL CALIFORNIA BILL INFORMATION > Date and Time of Update: Wed Jun 26 3:31:04 US/Pacific 2002 > > > Legislative action has occurred on bill(s) you have subscribed > to through the California Legislative Counsel's web site > (http://www.leginfo.ca.gov) > or the California State Senate's web site > (http://www.sen.ca.gov). > > You can link to the Bill Documents page or to the specific page > of information that has been updated. If you cannot link from this > E-mail message, you can enter the URL on your Internet Browser. > > > > > > SB 1614 http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/postquery?bill_number=sb_1614&sess=CUR&hou se=B&search_type=email > > AMENDED http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/pub/bill/sen/sb_1601-1650/sb_1614_bill_20020625_am ended_asm.html > > HISTORY http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/pub/bill/sen/sb_1601-1650/sb_1614_bill_20020625_hi story.html > > STATUS http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/pub/bill/sen/sb_1601-1650/sb_1614_bill_20020625_st atus.html > > > > SB 1952 http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/postquery?bill_number=sb_1952&sess=CUR&hou se=B&search_type=email > > HISTORY http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/pub/bill/sen/sb_1951-2000/sb_1952_bill_20020625_hi story.html > > STATUS http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/pub/bill/sen/sb_1951-2000/sb_1952_bill_20020625_st atus.html > > VOTES http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/pub/bill/sen/sb_1951-2000/sb_1952_vote_20020625_00 0002_asm_comm.html > >

This is to advise you that SB 1614, which will restrict access EVEN to INDEXES of births, deaths, etc., has been amended again. The new text is as below. If you value your right to research your genealogy or to help others who do not reside in the state, NOW is the time to contact your STATE REPRESENTATIVES. The California State Assembly and Senate websites have member listings and you may find how to contact your representatives by accessing those site. If you do nothing now, it will be too late to protest. Assembly http://www.assembly.ca.gov/acs/acsframeset7text.htm Find your district http://www.assembly.ca.gov/acs/acsframeset9text.htm Senate http://www.sen.ca.gov/~newsen/senators/senators.htp Find your district http://www.sen.ca.gov/~newsen/senators/districtmaps.HTP This Bill will KILL ANY access to these records except, of course, if you are a FINANCIAL INSTITUTION trying to see if an applicant is actually still living. If you like being punished because there are a few criminals out there, do nothing. This fits the bill... If you don't want your access restricted, contact your state representative and send this to others who may be interested. Sue Silver El Dorado County BILL NUMBER: SB 1614 AMENDED BILL TEXT AMENDED IN ASSEMBLY JUNE 25, 2002 AMENDED IN SENATE MAY 30, 2002 AMENDED IN SENATE MAY 15, 2002 AMENDED IN SENATE APRIL 24, 2002 AMENDED IN SENATE APRIL 15, 2002 INTRODUCED BY Senator Speier FEBRUARY 21, 2002 An act to amend Section 102230 of, and to add Sections 102231 and 102232 to, the Health and Safety Code, relating to public records , and making an appropriation therefor . LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL'S DIGEST SB 1614, as amended, Speier. Public records: vital statistics. Existing law requires the Director of Health Services, as the State Registrar of Vital Statistics, to administer the registration of births, deaths, fetal deaths, and marriages. Existing law requires the State Registrar to arrange and permanently preserve the certificates in a systematic manner and to prepare and maintain a comprehensive and continuous index of all certificates registered. This bill would declare the intent of Legislature to enact legislation to protect the confidentiality of birth and death record indices. Existing law, the California Public Records Act, requires state and local agencies to make records that are not otherwise exempt from disclosure available to the public upon receipt of a request that reasonably describes an identifiable record, and upon payment of fees to cover costs. This bill would require the comprehensive index described above, and birth and death record indices prepared or maintained by local registrars and county recorders, to be kept confidential, except that these indices may be disclosed to government agencies as prescribed by law. This bill would exempt these indices from disclosure under the California Public Records Act. This bill would prohibit a government agency from selling or releasing these indices, except as authorized by law. This bill would also prohibit specified entities and individuals from releasing any of the information contained in a comprehensive index purchased from the State Registrar prior to December 31, 2001, to a 3rd party. This bill would authorize the department to assess an unspecified civil penalty to enforce this provision. This bill would require, on or before January 1, 2004, the State Registrar to establish separate noncomprehensive electronic indices of all California birth and death records and make the indices continuously, electronically available to county recorders' offices statewide. This bill would appropriate $400,000 to the State Department of Health Services from the Health Statistics Special Fund for the purposes of developing the noncomprehensive indices. This bill would require the noncomprehensive indices to be available at the State Registrar's office and in county recorders' offices for public inspection and viewing only at computer terminals designated for this purpose, by individuals who have signed a standard form certifying, under penalty of perjury, that the information they view will not be used for criminal purposes. This bill would, in order to prevent identity theft and fraud, permit the release of specified personal information contained in birth and death data files, as defined, to financial institutions and consumer credit reporting agencies, as defined, for the sole purpose of determining if the person whose information is being released is still living. By expanding the scope of the crime of perjury, and by increasing the duties of local officials, this bill would impose a state-mandated local program. The California Constitution requires the state to reimburse local agencies and school districts for certain costs mandated by the state. Statutory provisions establish procedures for making that reimbursement, including the creation of a State Mandates Claims Fund to pay the costs of mandates that do not exceed $1,000,000 statewide and other procedures for claims whose statewide costs exceed $1,000,000. This bill would provide that with regard to certain mandates no reimbursement is required by this act for a specified reason. With regard to any other mandates, this bill would provide that, if the Commission on State Mandates determines that the bill contains costs so mandated by the state, reimbursement for those costs shall be made pursuant to the statutory provisions noted above. Vote: majority 2/3 . Appropriation: no yes . Fiscal committee: no yes . State-mandated local program: no yes . THE PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA DO ENACT AS FOLLOWS: SECTION 1. It is the intent of the Legislature to enact legislation to protect the confidentiality of birth and death record indices. SECTION 1. Section 102230 of the Health and Safety Code is amended to read: 102230. (a) (1) The State Registrar shall arrange and permanently preserve the certificates in a systematic manner and shall prepare and maintain a comprehensive and continuous index indices and data files of all certificates registered. (2) Except as provided in Section 102231, the birth and death record indices prepared pursuant to paragraph (1), and all birth and death record indices prepared or maintained by local registrars and county recorders, shall be kept confidential and shall be exempt from disclosure under the California Public Records Act (Chapter 3.5 (commencing with Section 6250) of Division 7 of Title 1 of the Government Code). (3) Nothing in this section shall prohibit the release of the information contained in comprehensive birth and death record indices and data files to government agencies as prescribed by law. (4) Notwithstanding paragraph (2), the State Registrar may release the indices and data files described in paragraph (1) to any government agency. A government agency that obtains an index pursuant to this paragraph may not release any portion of its contents to any other party. (b) In addition to the indices prepared pursuant to subdivision (a), the State Registrar shall prepare separate noncomprehensive electronic indices of all California birth and death records that shall be made available for public inspection pursuant to Section 102231. (c) A government agency may not sell or release birth and death record indices prepared and maintained pursuant to subdivision (a) by the State Registrar or by local registrars and county recorders and obtained by the government agency, except as authorized by law. (d) (1) An individual, corporation, or other business entity that purchased a comprehensive index prepared by the State Registrar pursuant to subdivision (a) from the State Registrar prior to December 31, 2001, may not use, or sell, share, or disclose any of the information contained therein to a third party. (2) Any person who, in violation of this section uses, sells, shares, or discloses any information provided pursuant to this section, or who uses information provided pursuant to this section in a manner other than as authorized pursuant to this section, may be denied further access to any personally identifying information or confidential information maintained by the department. That person shall also be subject to the assessment of a civil penalty by the department in the amount of ____ ($____). The penalty provided in this section shall not be construed as restricting any remedy, criminal, provisional, or otherwise, provided by law for the benefit of the department or any person. (e) The provisions of this section are severable. If any provision of this section or its application is held invalid, that invalidity shall not affect other provisions or applications that can be given effect without the invalid provision or application. SEC. 2. Section 102231 is added to the Health and Safety Code, to read: 102231. (a) On or before January 1, 2004, and contingent upon funding being made available in the Budget Act or by other appropriation, the State Registrar shall establish separate noncomprehensive electronic indices of all California birth and death records and make the indices continuously, electronically available to county recorders' offices statewide. Notwithstanding the California Public Records Act (Chapter 3.5 (commencing with Section 6250) of Division 7 of Title 1 of the Government Code), no part of these indices may be released to any individual or entity, except as authorized by this section or Section 102230 or 102232. (b) Contingent upon funding being made available in the Budget Act or by other appropriation, the separate noncomprehensive electronic indices prepared pursuant to this section shall be available at the State Registrar's office and in county recorders' offices for public inspection only at computer terminals designated for this purpose, and shall be subject to the following restrictions: (1) Availability to public inspection shall be limited to viewing only. (2) An individual who wishes to inspect the indices shall sign a standard form, as described in subdivision (d), certifying under penalty of perjury that the information he or she views will not be used for criminal purposes. Counties shall maintain the signed forms for seven years from the end of the month of signature. Maintenance of an electronic image of the form shall be an acceptable means of complying with this paragraph. (c) Upon implementation of subdivision (b), the separate noncomprehensive electronic indices prepared pursuant to this section shall be the only birth and death record indices open to public inspection or otherwise available to the public. Nothing in this section prohibits a disclosure that is authorized by Section 102232. (d) The State Registrar shall develop a standard form to be signed by persons who wish to inspect the indices, pursuant to paragraph (2) of subdivision (b). (e) For purposes of this section, "noncomprehensive index" means an index that contains information, excluding the social security numbers of deceased persons from death records, that the State Registrar has selected to include from the comprehensive index described in paragraph (1) of subdivision (a) of Section 102230. The State Registrar shall determine the information from the comprehensive index that shall be included in the noncomprehensive index, based on the lawful uses that may be made of the noncomprehensive index and the privacy needs of individuals whose records are included in the index. (f) The amount of four hundred thousand dollars ($400,000) is hereby appropriated from the Health Statistics Special Fund to the department for purposes of developing the noncomprehensive indices pursuant to subdivision (a). (g) A county is not required to comply with this section until the department has completed development of the viewing system, provided a computer terminal for public inspection purposes to the county, and established a maintenance agreement on the equipment with the county. SEC. 3. Section 102232 is added to the Health and Safety Code, to read: 102232. (a) For purposes of Sections 102230 and 102231 and this section, the following definitions apply: (1) "Birth data files" means computerized data compiled from birth certificates registered with the department and maintained pursuant to Section 102230. (2) "Death data files" means computerized data compiled from death certificates registered with the department and maintained pursuant to Section 102230. (3) "Person" means any individual, firm, corporation, partnership, limited liability company, joint venture, or association. (4) "Personal identifying information" means first name, middle name, last name, mother's maiden name, and father's surname, and a social security number that is contained in a death data file. (5) "Financial institution" means any commercial bank, trust company, savings and loan association, credit union, industrial loan company, insurance company, or person engaged in the business of lending money. (b) Notwithstanding any other provision of law, the department shall not release birth or death data files containing personal identifying information, except as follows: (1) Birth data files containing personal identifying information may be released to other governmental agencies, subject to Sections 102430 and 102447. (2) Birth data files containing personal identifying information may be released to researchers who have received approval for specific research pursuant to subdivision (c) of Section 102430. (3) Death data files containing personal identifying information may be released to persons expressing a valid scientific interest, as determined by the appropriate committee constituted for the protection of human subjects that is approved by the United States Department of Health and Human Services and has a general assurance pursuant to Part 46 (commencing with Section 46.101) of Title 45 of the Code of Federal Regulations. (4) (A) Notwithstanding any other provision of law, in order to prevent identity theft and fraud, information contained in death data files may be released to financial institutions, or consumer credit reporting agencies, as defined in subdivision (d) of Section 1785.3 of the Civil Code, or their agents and representatives, for the sole purpose of ascertaining whether an individual is still living. For purposes of this paragraph, this information shall be limited to first name, middle name, last name, date of birth, date of death, mother's maiden name, father's surname, social security number, and gender. (B) The information accessed pursuant to this paragraph shall be limited to the uses described in this paragraph and shall not be used, sold, shared, or disclosed for profiling or any other purpose inconsistent with the uses permitted by this paragraph. For the purposes of this paragraph, "profiling" means the use of statistics concerning race, ethnicity, disease, or cause of death to classify customers for a business reason. (C) Applicants for access to limited death data files shall complete the written application specified in subdivision (d), and shall include on that application a statement that the data will be used solely for the purpose of determining whether individuals are still living. (c) Any person who, in violation of this section, uses, sells, shares, or discloses any information provided pursuant to this section, or who uses information provided pursuant to this section in a manner other than as authorized pursuant to this section, may be denied further access to any personally identifying confidential information maintained by the department. That person shall also be subject to the assessment of a civil penalty by the department in the amount of ____ ($____). The penalty provided in this section shall not be construed as restricting any remedy, criminal, provisional, or otherwise, provided by law for the benefit of the department or any person. (d) All requests for information pursuant to this section shall be by written application. The application shall disclose the identity of the requester and the purpose for which the data is intended. The application shall contain an affirmation by the requester that the information shall be maintained in a secure fashion and will not be transferred, used, sold, shared, or disclosed to another party and a notice that states, "IT IS A CRIME TO WILLFULLY OBTAIN AND USE PERSONAL IDENTIFYING INFORMATION OF ANOTHER FOR ANY UNLAWFUL PURPOSE." The application shall contain a statement signed by the requester under penalty of perjury that only the requester will use the data and only for the purpose identified in the application. (e) The department shall adopt any regulations necessary to implement this section as emergency regulations. (f) The department may establish and impose reasonable charges to offset the costs of preparing and releasing birth and death data files. SEC. 4. No reimbursement is required by this act pursuant to Section 6 of Article XIII B of the California Constitution for certain costs that may be incurred by a local agency or school district because in that regard this act creates a new crime or infraction, eliminates a crime or infraction, or changes the penalty for a crime or infraction, within the meaning of Section 17556 of the Government Code, or changes the definition of a crime within the meaning of Section 6 of Article XIII B of the California Constitution. However, notwithstanding Section 17610 of the Government Code, if the Commission on State Mandates determines that this act contains other costs mandated by the state, reimbursement to local agencies and school districts for those costs shall be made pursuant to Part 7 (commencing with Section 17500) of Division 4 of Title 2 of the Government Code. If the statewide cost of the claim for reimbursement does not exceed one million dollars ($1,000,000), reimbursement shall be made from the State Mandates Claims Fund.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: LOPEZ Classification: Obituary Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/CY.2ADI/270 Message Board Post: Benancio Lopez, died in Oxnard, April 11, 1936, 11:15 am. Looking for death notice or obituary.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Winfrey, Porter Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/CY.2ADI/269 Message Board Post: Would like to contact members of the following family. Geneva Winifred "BeBe" Porter, b. 24 Dec 1913 in SD, d. 2 Feb 2002 in Camarillo, Ventura Co., CA. Married to Lee Winfrey in Aberdeen, SD. Children: 1.) Billy Winfrey 2.) Donna Winfrey, married James Jevens I'm looking for information on BeBe's parents and grandparents. Thanks.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: STEVE SHIPLEY Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/CY.2ADI/268 Message Board Post: I am trying to document my Grandson's genealogy before the trail is completely lost. I am searching for information on a John Wesley STEVE, son of William and Mary Lou SHIPLEY STEVE. John attended high school in Simi Valley, CA in 1973 or 1974 and married a Teresa Kaczocha. Any information would be appreciated.

Hello, I have been watching the progress of Senate Bill 1952 because a portion of it was a reaction to what had occurred in Georgia at the crematory where the owner stacked and stored bodies rather than perform the service he was paid to perform. As originally written SB 1952 would have allowed the Dept. of Consumer Affairs Cemetery and Funeral Bureau to review whether there was also a need to regulate cemetery and funeral salespersons of religious corporations or entities - a group that has historically been with ANY regulation in California. In my opinion, after six years of researching cemeteries and cemetery operators in California, oversight of these entities would have been a good thing. Today's notice of an amendment shows me that this Bill has been all but completely gutted. It has been reduced to nothing more than a lip service bill and was probably heavily fought by those in the cemetery industry. Once again, California is going to miss the boat and consumers will pay for it. Perhaps not in dollar losses, but in terms of not having the peace of mind that those who they put their trust in (funeral directors and cemetery operators) will face no regulation and no penalties if they choose to underperform or worse. I am including the text of the amended bill. I will be writing to the authors as well as my state representatives. If you feel it's time to take this industry to task so that those who would defile or desecrate the dead will be held accountable, I would ask that you do the same. Those not interested, please ignore this posting. Sue Silver El Dorado County, CA **************************************************************** BILL NUMBER: SB 1952 AMENDED BILL TEXT AMENDED IN ASSEMBLY JUNE 18, 2002 AMENDED IN SENATE MAY 2, 2002 INTRODUCED BY Senator Figueroa (Coauthors: Senators Johannessen and Polanco) (Coauthors: Assembly Members Aanestad, Correa, and Thomson) FEBRUARY 22, 2002 An act to amend Sections 144, 473.1, 9663, 9731, 9747, 9765, and 9786 of, and to add Sections 7612, 7746, 9610, 9750.5, 9764.1, and 9764.2 to, the Business and Professions Code, relating to professions and vocations. LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL'S DIGEST SB 1952, as amended, Figueroa. Cemetery and Funeral Bureau. Existing law creates a Joint Legislative Sunset Review Committee and authorizes it to review and evaluate various boards and commissions having duties and responsibilities relating to professions and occupations. This bill would provide for the committee review and evaluations of the Cemetery and Funeral Bureau in the Department of Consumer Affairs. Existing law provides for the regulation of funeral establishments, embalmers, cemeteries, and crematories by the Cemetery and Funeral Bureau in the Department of Consumer Affairs. Existing law requires a cemetery authority to display and make available to certain consumers , a copy of the consumer guide for funeral and cemetery purchases. The bill would require a cemetery authority or a cemetery licensee to provide a copy of the consumer guide to a consumer prior to drafting a contract for cemetery goods or services. Existing law requires a person who is delinquent in renewing a cemetery license or a crematory license or a cremated remains disposer registration to pay the fee plus an additional 50% of the renewal fee, but no more than the renewal fee plus $25. This bill would set the delinquency fee at 150% of the timely fee, but not less than the renewal fee plus $25. Existing law regulates preneed contracts for funeral services, and requires a funeral establishment to file an annual report with the bureau. This bill would require a funeral establishment that is exempt from filing an annual report or whose preneed trust funds are reported in a combined preneed trust report, to file a declaration of nonreporting status each year. The bill would require the bureau to conduct certain studies a study on the need to regulate 3rd-party casket retailers and report to the department and the Joint Legislative Sunset Review Committee on or before September 1, 2004. Existing law provides for the examination of applicants for a cemetery license or a crematory license by the bureau. The bill would provide that the fee for a crematory manager examination and reexamination shall be the actual cost to the bureau no more than $500, and that the fee for a cemetery manager examination and reexamination shall be no more than $900 . Because a violation of the provisions regulating funeral establishments is a crime, this bill would impose a state-mandated local program by creating a new crime. The California Constitution requires the state to reimburse local agencies and school districts for certain costs mandated by the state. Statutory provisions establish procedures for making that reimbursement. This bill would provide that no reimbursement is required by this act for a specified reason. Vote: majority. Appropriation: no. Fiscal committee: yes. State-mandated local program: yes. THE PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA DO ENACT AS FOLLOWS: SECTION 1. Section 144 of the Business and Professions Code is amended to read: 144. (a) Notwithstanding any other provision of law, an agency designated in subdivision (b) shall require an applicant to furnish to the agency a full set of fingerprints for purposes of conducting criminal history record checks. Any agency designated in subdivision (b) may obtain and receive, at its discretion, criminal history information from the Department of Justice and the United States Federal Bureau of Investigation. (b) Subdivision (a) applies to the following boards or committees: (1) California Board of Accountancy. (2) State Athletic Commission. (3) Board of Behavioral Sciences. (4) Court Reporters Board of California. (5) State Board of Guide Dogs for the Blind. (6) California State Board of Pharmacy. (7) Board of Registered Nursing. (8) Veterinary Medical Board. (9) Registered Veterinary Technician Committee. (10) Board of Vocational Nursing and Psychiatric Technicians. (11) Respiratory Care Board of California. (12) Hearing Aid Dispensers Advisory Commission. (13) Physical Therapy Board of California. (14) Physician Assistant Committee of the Medical Board of California. (15) Speech-Language Pathology and Audiology Board. (16) Medical Board of California. (17) State Board of Optometry. (18) Acupuncture Board. (19) Cemetery and Funeral Bureau. (20) Bureau of Security and Investigative Services. (21) Division of Investigation. (22) Board of Psychology. (23) The California Board of Occupational Therapy. SEC. 2. Section 473.1 of the Business and Professions Code is amended to read: 473.1. This division shall apply to all of the following: (a) Every board, as defined in Section 22, that is scheduled to become inoperative and to be repealed on a specified date as provided by the specific act relating to the board. (b) The Bureau for Postsecondary and Vocational Education. For purposes of this division, "board" includes the bureau. (c) The Cemetery and Funeral Bureau. SEC. 3. Section 7612 is added to the Business and Professions Code, to read: 7612. The bureau shall do all of the following: (a) Conduct a comprehensive study of the need for the regulation of proprietary employees of religious corporations, churches, religious societies, and religious denominations. (b) Perform a market assessment to determine the number of third-party casket retailers and research the number of consumer complaints filed with the bureau and other government entities. to regulate third-party casket retailers. (c) (b) Report to the department and the Joint Legislative Sunset Review Committee on or before September 1, 2004, on the matters specified in subdivisions (a) and (b). matter. SEC. 4. Section 7746 is added to the Business and Professions Code, to read: 7746. (a) Notwithstanding any other provision of law, a funeral establishment that is otherwise exempt from the requirement of filing an annual preneed trust report or whose preneed trust funds are reported in a combined preneed annual preneed trust report, shall annually file a declaration of nonreporting status with the bureau. (b) The declaration shall be filed on or before May 1 of each year and shall also be filed upon the transfer of ownership or the cessation of business. (c) The declaration shall be filed on a form provided by the bureau and shall include, but shall not be limited to, both of the following: (1) The basis upon which the funeral establishment is exempt from the annual trust reporting requirement. (2) The specific kind and nature of the exempt preneed arrangements, if any, in which the funeral establishment engages. (d) The declaration shall be verified by the funeral establishment' s owner, a partner, or in the case of a corporation, by the president or vice president. SEC. 5. Section 9610 is added to the Business and Professions Code, to read: 9610. The bureau shall do both of the following: (a) Conduct a comprehensive study of the need for the regulation of proprietary employees of religious corporations, churches, religious societies, and religious denominations. (b) Report to the department and the Joint Legislative Sunset Review Committee on or before September 1, 2004, on the matter specified in subdivision (a). SEC. 6. Section 9663 of the Business and Professions Code is amended to read: 9663. (a) The bureau shall make available to funeral establishments and cemetery authorities a copy of a consumer guide for funeral and cemetery purchases for purposes of reproduction and distribution. The funeral and cemetery guide that is approved by the bureau, in consultation with the funeral and cemetery industries and any other interested parties, shall be made available in printed form and electronically through the Internet. (b) A cemetery authority shall prominently display and make available to any individual who, in person, inquires about funeral or cemetery purchases, a copy of the consumer guide for funeral and cemetery purchases, reproduced as specified in subdivision (a). (c) Prior to drafting a contract for cemetery goods or services, the cemetery authority or cemetery licensee shall provide to the consumer, for retention, a copy of the consumer guide for funeral and cemetery purchases specified. SEC. 6. SEC. 7. Section 9731 of the Business and Professions Code is amended to read: 9731. If a person fails to apply for a license renewal, no renewal license shall be issued except upon payment of the delinquent renewal fee required under Section 9750.5. No person who fails to renew his or her license within one year of the expiration date can engage in any of the activities authorized by such a license unless he or she first files the application required for an original license, pays the original license fee, and otherwise complies with all of the provisions of this act pertaining to the issuance of an original license. SEC. 7. SEC. 8. Section 9747 of the Business and Professions Code is amended to read: 9747. If a person fails to apply for renewal of his or her cremated remains disposer registration prior to midnight of September 30th of the year for which the registration was issued, no renewal shall be issued except upon payment of the delinquent renewal fee required under Section 9750.5. SEC. 8. SEC. 9. Section 9750.5 is added to the Business and Professions Code, to read: 9750.5. The delinquent renewal fee for a license, registration, or certificate of authority under this chapter shall be 150 percent of the timely fee, but not less than the renewal fee plus twenty-five dollars ($25). SEC. 9. SEC. 10. Section 9764.1 is added to the Business and Professions Code, to read: 9764.1. The fees fee for a crematory manager examination shall be the actual cost to the bureau for developing, purchasing, grading, and administering the examination. and reexamination may not exceed five hundred dollars ($500). SEC. 10. SEC. 11. Section 9764.2 is added to the Business and Professions Code, to read: 9764.2. The fee for a cemetery manager examination shall be the actual cost to the bureau for developing, purchasing, grading, and administering the examination. and reexamination may not exceed nine hundred dollars ($900). SEC. 11. SEC. 12. Section 9765 of the Business and Professions Code is amended to read: 9765. Every cemetery authority operating a cemetery shall pay an annual regulatory charge for each cemetery to be fixed by the bureau at not more than four hundred dollars ($400). In addition to an annual regulatory charge for each cemetery, an additional quarterly charge of not more than eight dollars and fifty cents ($8.50) for each burial, entombment, or inurnment, and not more than eight dollars and fifty cents ($8.50) for each cremation made during the preceding quarter shall be paid to the department and these charges shall be deposited in the Cemetery Fund. If the cemetery authority performed the cremation and either the burial, entombment, or inurnment, the total of all additional charges shall be not more than eight dollars and fifty cents ($8.50). SEC. 12. SEC. 13. Section 9786 of the Business and Professions Code is amended to read: 9786. Every crematory licensee operating a crematory pursuant to a license issued in compliance with this article shall pay an annual regulatory charge for each crematory, to be fixed by the bureau at not more than four hundred dollars ($400). In addition to an annual regulatory charge for each crematory, every licensee operating a crematory pursuant to a license issued pursuant to this article shall pay an additional charge of not more than eight dollars and fifty cents ($8.50) per cremation made during the preceding quarter, which charges shall be deposited in the Cemetery Fund. SEC. 13. SEC. 14. No reimbursement is required by this act pursuant to Section 6 of Article XIII B of the California Constitution because the only costs that may be incurred by a local agency or school district will be incurred because this act creates a new crime or infraction, eliminates a crime or infraction, or changes the penalty for a crime or infraction, within the meaning of Section 17556 of the Government Code, or changes the definition of a crime within the meaning of Section 6 of Article XIII B of the California Constitution.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Bartlett, Kizer, O'Quinn, Ward Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/CY.2ADI/267 Message Board Post: I am from Ventura CO, Ca originally and am looking for any info in regards to my family. My grandfather was Joseph Wesley Kizer and my grandmother was Rose Myrtle Kizer nee Ward. They were pastors in El Rio(Oxnard), CA my whole life. My mother was Madolin Orlena Kizer and married Billy Don O'Quinn and later married Joseph Enon Bartlett. I have a brother living in Oxnard with the last name of Bartlett and we haven't been able to find much info on our mother and fathers. Any help would be appreciated.