jane wayne, First we have the architect/builder/carpenter John Cave, in many generations one of several John Caves really who people are getting confused about...(i.e. the whole Mary Cave John Echols debate etc etc). Now you post this modern day planter David Cave in Powhatan, Virginia,....well that too is odd since no one seems to discuss much the very early David Cave, planter, in the area of todays Caroline county mid to late 1600's who may indeed have been progenitor of most of us on this list.... One of these days these men will come out of the caves and see the light... :)