Hello Do you have Cave or Caves Family individuals, and have not found their ancestors? How about this. If you post what you know about your oldest ancestor, and address the email to: cave-L@rootsweb.com, or caves-L@rootsweb.com, maybe one of us can help or connect to the information. By knowing what "Parentless Ancestors" are lurking out there, maybe we can connect them to their parents. Just a thought. I know that most of the subscribers on the Cave/Caves lists are quiet, non participants. However, we are all family here, understand the right to privacy, as well as copyright laws. On other family lists everyone openly discusses family lines, and constantly discuss their heritage. I just think it would be nice to hear from a lot of other family members besides myself. I am Thomas William Rogers, My mom is Cleta Irene Caves, daughter of Martie W. Caves and her grandfather is Merritt Henry Cave (without the S). Merritt Henry Cave is the son of Merritt H. Cave who married Catherine Rush June 21, 1835 in Monroe County Missouri. My mom's brother Ernest Eugene Caves has all of the familytree information about our family heritage, but won't even share it with his own sister. He says "She is no longer a Caves, she is a Rogers". He won't share the information with his own daughter for exactly the same reason. Does that make any sense at all? To make matters worse, I have repeatedly found Cave/Caves Individuals recorded in Court House Records as being listed as Carr Individuals, but the hand written information on these Carr Individuals actual licenses or records is then found as being Cave/Caves. So everytime you go look for Cave/Caves individuals, make sure you also look up the Carr's records to take a look at the actual documents. Otherwise you will may very well miss family connections. Thomas W. Rogers P. O. Box 85 Deer Creek, Illinois 61733