http://google.books.com Grigsby's Cowboys First Lieutenant Will CAVE Page 296 Will CAVE was born in the Ruby Valley, near Virginia City, Mont., December 8, 1863. The first ten years of his life were spent in the various towns, valleys and mining camps of western Montana. In 1873 he removed with his parents to Missoula, Mont., where he has since resided. He was educated in the public schools of Missoula and finished his education by a two years' course in the "Institute," which is now known as the College of Montana, at Deer Lodge. Much of his youth was spent in the saddle chasing cattle over the Montana hills, on which occasion he always carried his rifle and soon became an expert both in the saddle and with his gun. In 1884 he became identified with the Missoula Mercantile Company, one of the largest mercantile establishments in the Northwest, which he left in 1891 to become auditor of Missoula county. Since that time he has served the county in various capacities. In August, 1897, he went to the "Klondike" and put in seven weeks on the much-advertised Skaguay trail. He returned that same year to make a report to some parties at Kansas City whom he was representing, and in January, 1898, left Seattle, again headed for the Yukon. The steamship "Corona," upon which he was sailing, was wrecked off Lewis Island on the British Columbian coast, and on account of the losses occasioned by that wreck he was compelled to return to Montana. While he was arranging for another trip north, the war with Spain became so evident that he abandoned his Alaskan intentions and directed his attention to raising a company for the war. He has the distinction of being the first volunteer in the entire United States for the Spanish-American war, beginning to organize his company on March 30, 1898, or twenty-two days before the declaration of war. He was mustered in as First Lieutenant Troop F, Third United States Volunteer Cavalry, May 13, 1898, and served with his troop at Camp Thomas, Ga., until muster-out September 8, 1898. Page 285 History of the Third Squadron, Third United States Volunteer Cavalry ...Missoula (Montana) was the first to take steps in the organization of a military company for the Spanish war. On March 30, 1898, Will CAVE of Missoula circulated a paper, to which he secured over fifty signatures in a few hours, the signers pledging themselves to enlist for the war in case of open hostilities. Mr. CAVE at once notified Governor Smith that Missoula was ready to furnish a company for the war, should it be declared. On April 2, the governor wrote to Mr. CAVE, acknowledging receipt of his communication, thanking him for the information and promising to file the letter and consider the contents carefully in case war was declared. Thus is Missoula entitled to the credit of taking the first steps in the organization of what afterward became the Montana Squadron of Grigsby's Cowboy Regiment.

http://books.google.com Annual Register - A Review of Public Events at Home and Abroad for the Year 1880 Right Hon. Sir Stephen CAVE, G.C.B.,died on June 7 (1880) at the age of scarcely 60. He had resigned his seat as member for Shoreham only at this year's dissolution, and at the same time he was nominated a Knight Grand Cross of the Order of the Bath (civil division). He went down to Windsor to be invested with that honour, and many of his friends at the time feared that he would not live long to enjoy it, as he had long been in failing health. The eldest son of the late Mr. Daniel CAVE, of Cleve Hill, near Bristol, and of Sidbury Manor, near Devonshire, he was born in the year 1820, and was educated at Harrow, and at Balliol College, Oxford, where he took his Bachelor's degree in 1843, obtaining a second-class in the School of Literae Humaniores. In 1846 he was called to the Bar at the Inner Temple, and for a time went the Western Circuit. In 1859, on the death of Sir Charles Burrell, he was elected M.P. for Shoreham, and continued to represent that constituency in the Conservaative interest uninterruptedly. He was sent on a special mission to Paris in 1866, and in the same year was appointed Paymaster-General and Vice-President of the Board of Trade; but this post he resigned with his party in 1868. In 1874 he was reappointed Paymaster-General, and in the winter of 1875-76 was sent to Egypt by Lord Beaconsfield as special envoy to report on the financial difficulties of that country. He was a magistrate and deputy-lieutenant for Gloucestershire, a commissioner of Lieutenancy for London, and president of the West India Committee; he also was at one time a director of the Bank of England and of the London Dock Company. Sir Stephen CAVE married, in 1852, Emma, daughter of the late Rev. William Smyth, of Elkington Hall, Lincolnshire, sometime prebendary of Lincoln Cathedral. -------------------------------------------------

Michael, have you any more ID of John Cave b. 1745? Also, how do they get his dna to test for the match?? Jim Cave ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2007 12:46 PM Subject: Re: [CAVE] Many More Matches for Virginia and English Caves > > In a message dated 6/16/2007 12:31:13 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > > He is only 14 of > these results so far, and the Virginia Cave matches 8-9 of these! > > > > > Should be: Hugh is reporting only 14 of these results so far, and the > Virginia Cave (John of 1745) matches 8-9 of these. > > > > ************************************** See what's free at > http://www.aol.com. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

http://books.google.com Calendar of the Patent Rolls Preserved in the Public Record Office ------------------------------------------------------- Feb 3, 1293 - Weighton (Wighton) - Writ de intendendo directed to archbishops and others of the county of Kent for ........ Hugh de CAVE appointed justice in eyre in the county of Kent for this turn. July 17, 1293 - Presentation of Hugh de CAVE to the church of Geyregrave, in the diocese of York, in the king's gift by reason of his custody of the land and heir of Henry de Percy, tenant in chief. Sept. 23, 1293 - Appointment of ..............Hugh de CAVE, to be justice in eyre in the counties of Surrey and Middlesex for this turn. 1294 - Master Robert de CAVE, parson of the church of Kirkeby Suggeston Oct 16, 1301 - Dunipace - The like (a pardon?) to Geoffrey de CAVE for the death of Roger, son of Roger Robyn of Ravenstone. Feb. 9, 1302, Roxburgh - Writ of aid, directed to the sheriff and others of York, for speedy execution of the commission to ........ Alexander de CAVE.....heretofore appointed to collect the fifteenth in that county from all the temporalities of ecclesiastics and seculars, but who have put off levying the same, to the king's great loss. It was and still is the king's intention that goods purely spiritual shall not be taxed by reason of this fifteenth. Dec. 10, 1302 - Mandate to Alexander de CAVE and Geoffrey de Hothum, collectors in the county of York of the aid for marrying the king's eldest daughter, to pay for the above-mentioned purveyances out of that money, by indenture make between them and the sheriff. Nov 12, 1308 - Westminster - The like (commission de walliis et fossatis?) to Alexander de CAVE and Geoffrey de Hothum for the banks of the river Humber and the Use between Ellerker and Barneby by Houedon, co. York. Aug. 28, 1310 - Thirsk - Protection, for two years, for Master Robert de CAVE, going beyond seas. He also has letters nominating John de Notingham, chaplain, and Adam son of Adam de Kirkeby his attorneys for the same period. Dec. 30, 1310 - Berwick-on-Tweed - Pardon to Adam de Horringes of Coupland for the death of Alice Fraunceis, as it appears by the record of John de byron, Alexander de CAVE and John Sampson, justices of gaol delivery of the late king for York, that he killed her through misadventure. Sep 9, 1310 - Newminster - Licence for the alienation in mortmain by Alexander de CAVE of 5 bovates and 3 acres of land, 2.5 acres of meadow, and 5s. of rent in South Cave to a chaplain to celebrate divine service daily in the church of South Cave for the grantor, his ancestors and successors. March 30, 1313 - Westminster - Commission to Robert de Bures and John de CAVE to view the bridge across the river Thame between Stretford by Wilmundecote and Faresleie, which is on the borders of the counties of Warwick and Stafford, and to compel those who are liable to execute all necessary repairs. June 18, 1313 - Westminster. Commission of oyer and terminer to Henry Spigurnel and John de CAVE, touching the persons who forcibly broke the close of John de Nodariis at Nethercolewyk, co. Nottingham, killed 100 sheep and 8 swine of his of the price of 20 l. and assaulted his men and servants. June 22, 1313 - Dover - Commission de walliis, et fossatis to William de Houk, Alexander de CAVE, and Robert de Sandale, keeper of the town of Kingeston-upon-Hull, for the banks of the rivers Humber and Hull, co. York, which ought to be repaired at the king's expense. They are to certify to the person who supplies the place of the treasurer and to the barons of the Exchequer thereof. June 15, 1328 - Worcester - Presentation of Robert de CAVE, king's clerk, to the church of Banham, in the diocese of Norwich, which was recovered by judgment of the King's bench against the abbot of St. Mary's, York, in the year 12 Edward II, not yet executed. May 20, 1329 - Canterbury - Thomas de Brayton, going with the king beyond seas, has letters nominating Robert de CAVE his attorney for the same period. July 6, 1329 - Guilford - John de CAVE of Beverley, a rent of 6d. out of the house wherein Thomas de Bonnewyk dwells, in the high street, within the northern bars. Dec 21, 1329 - Kenilworth - Exemption, for life, of Richard de CAVE from being put on assizes, juries, or recognisances, and from appointment as mayor, sheriff, escheator, coroner or other baliff or minister of the king against his will. May 8, 1330 - Woodstock - Baldewin de CAVE, parson of the church of Berughby. July 5, 1331 - Lincoln - Pardon to Richard de CAVE, king's yeoman, for the escape from his custody of Adam de Kirkeby of Carlisle and William de Lewes, when imprisoned in Bedeford gaol for certain felonies and robberies at the time when he was sheriff of the counties of Bedford and Buckingham in the late king's reign. March 12, 1333 - Cowick - Protection with clause, nolumus, until the feast of St. Peter ad Vincula, for William de CAVE of York, his servants, ships and boats procuring corn in the counties of York, Lincoln and Nottingham to be brought to York. June 28, 1333 - Tweedmouth - ....Richard the younger, his brother, Roger de CAVE.....Richard son of Joan de CAVE. Feb. 15, 1386 - complaint by Thomas, bishop of Ely, that although all his tenants resident within Ely, co. Cambridge, by reason of his lordship are bound to grind all their grindable corn at his mills therein, and have been wont so to do in times past, none being permitted to erect a horse-mill or a hand-mill for grinding corn or malt within Ely.......John CAVE of Ely has erected such a mill to the loss of the bishop's multure. (multure: a toll or fee given to the proprietor of a mill for the grinding of grain.) ------------------------------------------------------- Calendar of the Close Rolls - Edward II - A.D. 1313-1318 Sept. 6, 1313 - Windsor To Alexander de CAVE and Robert de Amecotes, keepers of certain of the late Templars' lands in the county of York. Order to pay to W. archbishop of York the wages assigned for the maintenance of Thomas de Belby, a Templar, assigned to him by himself and the whole provincial council to do penance in a certain monastery, to wit 4d. a day, from the time of their appointment as keepers and to continue to pay the same. March 14, 1316 - Clipston John de Marton, parson of the church of Westtillebury acknowledges that he owes to Robert de CAVE, clerk, 4 l.; to be levied, in default of payment of his lands and chattels in the county of Essex. Aug. 20, 1316 - York To John de Hotham, Alexander de CAVE, Roger de Grymmeston, and William Clarel, taxors and collectors in the county of York of the fifteenth of cities, boroughs, and royal demesnes. Order to deliver into the king's wardrobe to Roger de Northburgh, keeper of the same, all the money of the said fifteenth in gross or in parcels as levied. Sep 1, 1316 - York To John de Hotham, Alexander de CAVE, Roger de Grymmeston, and William Clarel. Order to arrest any bailiff of the king or others who shall refuse to aid and counsel them in taxing and levying the fifteenth in the county of York, according to the king's orders to the bailiffs and ministers of that county, as the king understands that certain bailiffs refuse to help them, and to certify the king of their names and of the manner of their neglect and contempt. Sept 20, 1316 - To........John de CAVE, justice appointed to take assizes in the county of Warwick. May 2, 1318 - Wallingford William de Belasise acknowledges that he owes to Robert de CAVE, clerk, monies; to be levied, in default of payment, of his lands and chattels in co. York. -------------------------------------------------------

This is very interesting! We are going to have to find some way to get more of our USA men to test. Thanks for the new information on this DNA match. Sue Ellen Cave Ash

Thanks, Michael. What is the procedure for getting the test? Details? Cost? Jim Cave of Robert of VA died 1755 ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2007 12:30 PM Subject: [CAVE] Many More Matches for Virginia and English Caves >A couple of weeks ago I reported to this list some results from the on >going > Cave dna project headed up by Hugh Cave of the Cave Family History Society > in England. > > A descendant of John Cave born ca 1745 who married Sarah Wilson Brown > matched up with a certain VALENTINE Cave born ca. 1585 in Northampton, > England. It > is interesting that a grandson of Benjamin Cave the Burgess had the > highly > unusual name VALENTINE as a first name as well. > > The John Cave descendant has John of 1745 as his earliest known ancestor, > although other researchers say he is the great grandson of John Cave the > Carpenter who died ca 1720 in Stafford and is ancestor to a number of > people on > this list. > > Well, John Cave 1745 and Valentine Cave 1585 matched their dna markers 37 > out of 37. This suggests a very close match, as markers mutate over > time. > > I chatted with Hugh some more and had my suspicions confirmed...Hugh was > reporting only this exact match. It turns out that John Cave 1745 matches > at > least seven other Caves in England, with different lines. On the twelve > marker > test, which is far fewer markers but still can be somewhat useful, he is > one > of eight exact matches 12 for 12. > > Interestingly, he also matches 10 out of 12 markers with the ancient > Jordayne de Cave line. If that line decides to expand to 37 markers, we > may see if > John 1745 is from that family. > > Of course we still need many people to find male Cave cousins to test. > Hugh > has over twenty Caves tested, only one is from the US. He is only 14 of > these results so far, and the Virginia Cave matches 8-9 of these! > > > Michael Walker > > > > ************************************** See what's free at > http://www.aol.com. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

In a message dated 6/16/2007 12:31:13 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: He is only 14 of these results so far, and the Virginia Cave matches 8-9 of these! Should be: Hugh is reporting only 14 of these results so far, and the Virginia Cave (John of 1745) matches 8-9 of these. ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

A couple of weeks ago I reported to this list some results from the on going Cave dna project headed up by Hugh Cave of the Cave Family History Society in England. A descendant of John Cave born ca 1745 who married Sarah Wilson Brown matched up with a certain VALENTINE Cave born ca. 1585 in Northampton, England. It is interesting that a grandson of Benjamin Cave the Burgess had the highly unusual name VALENTINE as a first name as well. The John Cave descendant has John of 1745 as his earliest known ancestor, although other researchers say he is the great grandson of John Cave the Carpenter who died ca 1720 in Stafford and is ancestor to a number of people on this list. Well, John Cave 1745 and Valentine Cave 1585 matched their dna markers 37 out of 37. This suggests a very close match, as markers mutate over time. I chatted with Hugh some more and had my suspicions confirmed...Hugh was reporting only this exact match. It turns out that John Cave 1745 matches at least seven other Caves in England, with different lines. On the twelve marker test, which is far fewer markers but still can be somewhat useful, he is one of eight exact matches 12 for 12. Interestingly, he also matches 10 out of 12 markers with the ancient Jordayne de Cave line. If that line decides to expand to 37 markers, we may see if John 1745 is from that family. Of course we still need many people to find male Cave cousins to test. Hugh has over twenty Caves tested, only one is from the US. He is only 14 of these results so far, and the Virginia Cave matches 8-9 of these! Michael Walker ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

I would like this information also - the procedure for getting the test? Details? Cost? Clara Cave - of James - born VA about 1801?, died OH 1876 Thanks, Michael. What is the procedure for getting the test? Details? Cost? Jim Cave of Robert of VA died 1755 ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2007 12:30 PM Subject: [CAVE] Many More Matches for Virginia and English Caves >A couple of weeks ago I reported to this list some results from the on >going > Cave dna project headed up by Hugh Cave of the Cave Family History Society > in England. > > A descendant of John Cave born ca 1745 who married Sarah Wilson Brown > matched up with a certain VALENTINE Cave born ca. 1585 in Northampton, > England. It > is interesting that a grandson of Benjamin Cave the Burgess had the > highly > unusual name VALENTINE as a first name as well. > > The John Cave descendant has John of 1745 as his earliest known ancestor, > although other researchers say he is the great grandson of John Cave the > Carpenter who died ca 1720 in Stafford and is ancestor to a number of > people on > this list. > > Well, John Cave 1745 and Valentine Cave 1585 matched their dna markers 37 > out of 37. This suggests a very close match, as markers mutate over > time. > > I chatted with Hugh some more and had my suspicions confirmed...Hugh was > reporting only this exact match. It turns out that John Cave 1745 matches > at > least seven other Caves in England, with different lines. On the twelve > marker > test, which is far fewer markers but still can be somewhat useful, he is > one > of eight exact matches 12 for 12. > > Interestingly, he also matches 10 out of 12 markers with the ancient > Jordayne de Cave line. If that line decides to expand to 37 markers, we > may see if > John 1745 is from that family. > > Of course we still need many people to find male Cave cousins to test. > Hugh > has over twenty Caves tested, only one is from the US. He is only 14 of > these results so far, and the Virginia Cave matches 8-9 of these! > > > Michael Walker > > > > ************************************** See what's free at > http://www.aol.com. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

http://books.google.com ------------------------------------------------------- Fasti Ecclesiae Anglicanae: Or a Calendar of the Principal Ecclesiastical Dignitaries in England York Precentors - Nicholas de CAVE, admitted 16th March 1364 Durham Prebendaries - John CAVE was collated 17th April 1686 and installed 15th May following. He died in Oct. 1690 Windsor Canons - William CAVE, S.T.P., was appointed by patent 12th Nov. and installed 21st Nov. 1685; void by the death of John Rosewell. CAVE died 4th Aug. 1713. -------------------------------------------------------- Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Commoners of Great Britain and Ireland Babington, of Rothley Temple Humfrey Babington, esq.of Rothley Temple, who m. Margaret, daughter of Francis CAVE, L.L.D. of Bagrave, in Leicestershire, and had by her, who was buried at Rothley, 20th September, 1629, five sons, and two daughters. ---------------------------------------------------------- Denham Parish Registers, 1539-1850 - Marriages 1608 Oct. 22 - John CAVE and Elizabeth Machell ---------------------------------------------------------- Memorials of a Warwickshire Parish - In 1653 the Lovell trust had granted a fifty years' lease of the Banbury house and toft to one Matthew CAVE, brasier. ---------------------------------------------------------- A genealogical and heraldic history of the extinct and dormant baronetcies of England Mary CAVE, daughter of Sir Thomas CAVE, bart. of Stamford, in the county of Northampton, married Orlando Bridgeman esq. of Ridley in the county of Chester, who was created a baronet by King Charles II 12 Nov 1673. Elizabeth Lovett, m. first to Anthony CAVE, esq of Chichley, Bucks; secondly John Newdegate, esq of Harefield, M.P. for Middlesex in 1571; and thirdly Richard Weston - one of the Queen's Maiesties Justices. His will dated 4 July 1572 stipulates his wife to retain all goods, plate, lands and jewels as belonged to her late husbands, Anthony CAVE and John Newdigate.) ----------------------------------------------------------- Transactions of the Royal Historical Society Church of Waltham Katherine CAVE, daughter of the Right Worshipful Mr. CAVE, of Bargrave, county Leicester, married Christopher Chaney, gentleman, 28th May 1601 ----------------------------------------------------------- Nottingham Parish Registers Marriages at Balderton Elizabeth CAVE and Richard Samson - 1 Oct 1581 Marriages at Cotham, 1587 to 1812 Mr. Cissill CAVE and Mrs. Elizabeth Markham - 4 Jan 1601 Marriages at St. Nicholas's Elizabeth CAVE and Samuel Flint - 19 Sep 1714 Thomas CAVE and Martha Lassils, 9 Jan 1738 Elizabeth CAVE and Samuel Truman - 17 Oct 1808 Ann Maria CAVE Newball and Thomas Kenney - 29 May 1809 ------------------------------------------------ Genealogical Gleanings in England Anne Joyliffe relict and executrix of George Joyliffe late Doctor of Phisick, 25 May 1660, proved 29 November 1660.....to Francis CAVE, nephew to my said husband, forty pounds, and to Alice CAVE, his sister, ten pounds.... --------------------------------------------------------- College of St. John the Evangelist - University of Cambridge Admissions - 1653: William CAVE, of Pickwell, Leic., son of John CAVE, gent; school Oakham for 3 years; admitted sizar for his tutor and surety Mr. Holden, 11 May Notes: William CAVE was Canon of Windsor and domestic chaplain to Charles II. Vicar of St. Mary's, Islington for eighteen years. Born 30 December 1637 and died 4 August 1713. There is a tablet to his memory on the northern pillar near the pulpit in St. Mary's Islington. Elizabeth CAVE, daughter of William CAVE, married Robert Gery, Vicar of St. Mary's Islington --------------------------------------------------------- History of the Church of the Holy Sepulchre, Northampton 1500 - Will of Thomas Knight - I bequeth to Alica CAVE lately my servant a gown of musterdevilos. (a mixed grey woollen cloth, which continued in use in England, up to the end of Elizabeth's reign.... sometimes spelt Mustard-Villars.) 1722 - Francis (5 yr), Thomas (3 yr) and Anne (1 mo) children of Thomas CAVE (a Quaker) and of Anne his wife were Baptized July ye 27th. >From the legible stones in Holy Sepulchre's Churchyard. The following names are on the same stone CAVE, Charlotte - age 53 - d. 1875 CAVE, William - age 38 - d. 1859 CAVE, Mary Ann - 7 mo. - 1860 CAVE, Daniel Mark - age 13 - 1864 --------------------------------------------------------- The Yorkshire Archaeological Journal Yorkshire Deeds John de CAVE of South Dalton, witness to deed in 1295. Paver's Marriage Licenses Sarah CAVE, of Guiseley m. Sanuel Bateson at Guiseley. Elizabeth CAVE, of Otley and George Waddington, of Arthington No dates given. Possible late 1500s and 1600s as shown by other marriages that included dates. Inquisitions January 13, 9 James I (1611-2) Inquisition taken at Wighton (Market Weighton) before Peter Watson, esq., escheator, by the oath of...... William CAVE......

http://books.google.com A History Epidemics in England City of London, 1568 1. First a 'tre from the Mayor of London to every alderman of each warde to charge their Deputys counstables and officers to make search of all houses infected within each parish. 2. To cause all infected houses to bee shutt up and noe person to come forth in twenty dayes after the infection. 3. That some honest discreete person be appoynted to attend each such infected house to provide them all of the necessaries at the cost of the M' of the house if he be able. 4. For the poorer houses infected that the Alderman or his deputy doe cause to make collection for the supply of all necessaries to be charged upon the weathyer sorte of the same warde or parish. 5. That such as shall refusue to pay what they are assest shall be comitted to warde untill they pay it. 6. That all bedding and cloathes and other thinges apt to take infection which were about infected persons bee burnt to such order taken that infection may not be increased by them. 7. Lastly that a bill with "Lord have mercy on us" in great 'tres been sett over the dore of euery infected house and that the counstables and Beadles have a care to see that the same be not taken downe. These orders were sett downe by the Mayior of London in the yere 1568, whereupon queene Elizabeth writeth a letter to Sr William Cycill then secretary and Sr Ambrous CAVE, chauncellor of the Duchy to take the like order or any other that they should thinke fitt in the citie of Westminster. City of Westminster, 1568 Orders sett down by Sr William Cycill, Secretary, as High Steward of Westminster and Sr. Ambrous CAVE, chauncellor of the Dutchy to the Bayleiffes, Hedburroughs, Counstables and other officers of the sayde Citty. 1. That they should follow the good examle of the orders devised and observed by the Mayior and Aldermen of London, and further that all haue any houses slops or loggings that hath any infection in them by the space of twenty dayes before the making of these orders shall shutt up all their doares and windoares towards the streetes and common passages for forth dayes next and not suffer after the tyme of the sicknes any person to goe forth nor any uninfected to come in upon payne that euery offender shall sitt seven dayes in the stocks and after that be committed to the common Goale there to remayne forty dayes from the first day of his being in the stocks. Additional orders in 1581 2. That the officers aforesayde with the curate of euery parish and church wardens doe make such collection of the rest of the parishioners as shall be necessary for the sustenance of such as been poore infected and shutt up. 3. To discharge all inmates out of all houses that there be noe more persons in one house then be of one family except they be lodgers for a small time. 4. To cause the sreetes lanes and passages and all the shewers sinkes (?) and gutters thereof dayly to be made sweete and cleane.

I guess we should post to ancestry.com, genealogy.com, etc. In a message dated 6/9/2007 5:22:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Sure hope some of the CAVE men of this line can be found. If we dont hear soon I will try to contact someone who may not be reading the list since its summertime. There surely is at least one or two with the surname still out there. That was a large family if I am recalling the data base. Sue Ellen Cave Ash list coordinator ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Sure hope some of the CAVE men of this line can be found. If we dont hear soon I will try to contact someone who may not be reading the list since its summertime. There surely is at least one or two with the surname still out there. That was a large family if I am recalling the data base. Sue Ellen Cave Ash list coordinator

http://books.google.com London Tavern - Salutation Tavern was in Newgate Street, as we learn from the following poetical invitatation to a social feast held there on June 19, 1735-6, issued by the two stewards, Edward CAVE and William Bowyer:- "Saturday, Jan. 17, 1735-6. "Sir, "You're desir'd on Monday next to meet At Salutation Tavern, Newgate Street, Supper will be on table just at eight, One of St. John's (Bowyer) t'other of St. John's Gate (Cave)." ------------------------------------------------------ Worthies of Leicestershire and Nothumberland - William CAVE, son of John CAVE, writer and preacher, author of "Historia Linteraria;" born at Pickwell 1637; died 1713. Bran. CAVE - sheriff - Anno 6 of reign of Phil. and Mar. Brian CAVE - sheriff - Anno 11 of reign of Eliz. Reg. Brian CAVE - sheriff - Ingersby - Anno 9 of reign of Jac. Rex Johan. CAVE - sheriff - Pickwell - Anno 17 of reign of Jac. Rex Alex. CAVE - sheriff - Bagrave - Anno 18 of reign of Jac. Rex - Roger CAVE - sheriff - Stanford - Anno 17 of reign of Eliz Reg. ------------------------------------------------------ Parish Registers of St. Michael, Cornhill, London Oct 25 1654 - Phillip CAVE and Sarah Martin were marrd by . Aldm. Titchborne June 15 1656 - Christened: Thomas, son of Phillip CAVE & Sarah his wife: . born 5 June Jan 11 1659 - Christened: Susannah, dau of Phillip CAVE & Sarah his wife: . born 24 Dec Nov 6 1660 - Burial: Sarah, wife of Phillip CAVE ------------------------------------------------------ The Clerical Guide...........of the Church of England with the Names of Their Present Possessors, Patrons, &c. - 1827 CAVE, T. Parish: Elstow V. - Population: 548 - County: Beds - Diocese: Lincn - Archdeaconry: Beds - Value in the King's Book 7-9-0 - Patron: S. Whitbread, Esq. CAVE, W.A.C.B., Parish: Flixton C. - population: 1604 - County: Lanca - Diocese: Chest - Archdeaconry: Chest. - Instituted: 1823 - Patron: Preby of Flixton in Lich. Cath. ------------------------------------------------------- Nottinghamshire Parish Registers - Marriages Francis CAVE & Agnes Carn - 27 Apr 1577 - Sutton Bonington Elizabeth CAVE & William Holte - 11 Nov 1582 - Widmerpool William CAVE of Leicester & Elizabeth Hunt of Nottingham - . 4 July 1722 - Beeston Elizabeth CAVE & Richard Greensmith - 20 Nov 1758 - Greasley Francis CAVE & Elizabeth Godfrey - 22 May 1763 - Gedling Francis CAVE, of CArlton & Anne Shelton of Stoke - 24 Dec 1764 - . Gedling Alice CAVE & George Savidge - 11 Nov 1790 - Gedling Hannah CAVE & Thomas Greenfield - 30 Nov 1790 - Gedling Robert CAVE & Elizabeth Piggin - 17 Feb 1794 - Bulwell Mary CAVE & Samuel Hemsley - 18 May 1795 - Gedling Thomas CAVE, of Gedling & Ellizabeth Taylor of Burton Joyce - . 30 Jan 1798 - Gelding Job CAVE & Ann Henson - 3 -?- 1814 - Bunny ------------------------------------------------------- Parochial Chapel of Didsbury 1844 - Thomas Brown CAVE, Esq. - owining 19 acres ------------------------------------------------------ Cheshire Notes and Queries - Sat. March 12, 1887 Lecture delivered by Rev. E. J. Bell, M.A., rector of Alderley on Ancient Church Architecture... Ancient Silchester...."The Rev. Gentleman, who was received with applause, said that in the summer before last he paid a visit to the county of Hampshire, to an old friend of his, the Rev. Robert CAVE, well known among persons acquainted with art as a collector of and writer on gems.." Holy Trinity, Baptisms 1608? October - Sara da: to Adam CAVE, yeoman. Godfather Mr. Wm: Allen; Sara Wall and ? Madocks Godmothers ------------------------------------------------------ Records of the Parish of Whitkirk "...Meantime, the Templars' estates had been placed by Edward in the charge of "custodes" or guardians. In 1311 Temple Newsam was in the hands of one Adam de Hoperton, who, on the 1st of December of that year, transferred it to the care to two new officials, Sir Alexander de CAVE and Robert Amcotes..." Wedding - Feb. 2, 1661 - Elizabeth CAVE and Anthony Gibbons ------------------------------------------------------

http://books.google.com Records of the Borough of Leicester ------------------------------------------------- Chamberlains' Accounts - Gyfts of wyne and other Thynges 1551-2 - Gyftes of wyne...to Sir Ambrose CAVE 1552-3 - Gyftes of Wyne...to Mr. CAVE when we went to speke with hym for . our besenes at Wheston 1559-60 - 12 pennyworth of cakes, 8 pennyworthe of pears, when . Sir Ambres CAVE, Chaunceller of the Duche, was at the Newarke 1562-3 - Gyftes of Wyne to Mr. CAVE at the possessyon takying of the hall 1563-4 - to Mr. CAVE at the seassying of the subsydye 1563-4 - (Clared wyne which was geven to a strange precher!) 1565-6 - (more wine) to Sir Ambros CAVE at the castell 1566-7 - Gyftes of wyne - to Mr. Bryan CAVE at the Newark 2 Jan - . to Dr. CAVE 18 Jan when he sate in commission for the subsedie 1566-7 - to Mr. CAVES sonn for wrytinge a draught of an indenture for . the collector - 1s. 1587-8 - Mr. Thos CAVE 1591-2 - wyne and owsters sent to Mr. Thomas CAVE to Horspole graunge, 5s ------------------------------------------------- Sep 29, 1583 - Muster of Horsemen: A lettre sent to Mr. Mayor under the hands of Bryan CAVE the high sherif and of Mr. Skipwythe, charginge the towne there...in the Counsells name with ii demylaunces and iiii lighthorsemen: whereupon (Oct 1) the Mayor caused certen of his brethern to meete him att the hall....whoes conclusion was to send to the Recorder there lettre towchinge the answeringe thereof. Tranlation: the Council charge the town with two demilances and four light horsemen, to be raised from the wealthiest of the town or corporation, to be ready at a day's warning. If refused, the neglect must be answered to the Council Oct. 7. ------------------------------------------------- Nov 20, 1584 - The Queen of Scots' posthorses >From the Mayor to Sir F. CAVE Whereas vpon Sondaye last in the sermond tyme of morninge prayer I received your letter with a commision for certen horssses to be sent to you on the next morninge for your brother Mr. Bryan CAVE and others travellinge on the Queenes Majesties affayres towardes Wingfeild.... ------------------------------------------------- 1590-1 - Michaelmas Term - Commission Appointed - Thos. CAVE ------------------------------------------------- June 20, 1592 - Letters on Town Business R. Parkins to the Mayor, from Bunny. Mr. Thomas CAVE (Sheriff) sent his book (on musters) for perusal that was to pass between the town and him. There are provisoes he mislikes. ------------------------------------------------- July 29, 1592 - Letter from Sheriff Tho. CAVE to the Mayor re: contribution of town foot-soldiers ------------------------------------------------- Nov. 28, 1593 - Records of the Plague The Mayor to Sir Thos. Skeffington and William CAVE....The number of dead is 107, and all the visited houses except 3 are kept in meat, drink, fire, candle, water, soap and provided with keepers. ------------------------------------------------- 1594-5 ? Item of Mr. Thomas CAVE, Esquier, for a messuage or tenemente with thappurtenaunces in Houngerton, which he holdithe in fee farme, per annun - xxx s. Item of the said Mr. CAVE for the milnes called Sytheston milnes and a howsse with thappurtenaunces in Sytheston aforesaid, which he holdithe in fee farme The above could be: Rentes for landes wee holde of Her Maiestie in fee farme, ------------------------------------------------- March 20, 1599 - Freedom from Toll Letter affirming that the towne of Leicester of the duchie of Lancncaster remain a free towne for merchants and others that woulde resorte for traffique to buye or sell there. Among the letter-signers......Will. CAVE, Liston CAVE and Tho. CAVE April 21, 1599 - Admission to Market Letter to Mayor from Tho. CAVE requesting an individual be permitted to market his wares. October 1599 - Petitions Letter to his honor to appoint some other in his steede for the better service of her Maiestie... suggests Thomas CAVE and Henrye CAVE among others

So now that we know one Virginia Cave has tested and that he has a high resolution exact match with the Northampton Cave family... What is the ancestry of this John Cave? I've looked on the Internet (which of course often has conflicting information). It gives John Cave's birthplace as Orange County, Virginia, his wife as Sarah Wilson Brown, and moving to Barnwell County, South Carolina. His children included a Benjamin Cave and a David Cave. I see sources that either say his father was unknown, OR that his father was another John Cave, his grandfather David cave, and his great grandfather the John Cave who married an Anderson and then Elizabeth Travers, and whose will was probated Stafford in 1721. Can anyone shed light on this? And also, I know Jim Cave of this list descends from Robert Cave supposed son of the above John Cave who died 1721. Does anyone know of any living surnamed Caves directly descended from Benjamin the Burgess, or the above John, or in fact any other Cave line? Michael Wingfield Walker ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Now that there has been an exact, 37/37 dna marker match between John Cave of Virginia b. ca 1745, and Valentine Cave b. ca 1581 in Northampton, England, I just remembered that Col. Benjamin Cave the Burgess had a grandson named Valentine Johnson. This could be a coincidence, but the male first name Valentine is quite unusual. Things that make you go "hmmmmm"......... Michael ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Beth_Rhoades Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.cave/703.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: the picture was given to my husbands grandfather when he was in the Navy. I found Roy's cousin via the phone book and I'm sending him the picture. The back of the picture states he lived in Missouri. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

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This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: amycave_1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.cave/166.212.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: hello, thank you very much. so far you are the only person who has connected the name to Ireland. I have heard from people in my direct line that our family is scattered all over Texas so the possibility is there. I know there are many Caves in Rotan, TX so maybe you should take a look. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.