http://www.rootsweb.com/~iaharris/bio1915/1915bio12.htm 1915 Harrison County Iowa Biographies JAMES G. CAVE - What a wonderful training school the farm is. Even a cursory review of the biographies of the men who have exerted the widest and most beneficent influence upon the destinies of this nation convinces the student of such forms of research that a great majority of these men have secured their basic training in youthful days spent close to the soil, taking from beneficent nature, right at her fountain sources, the lessons most useful in the creation of a character fitted for the best constructive work in the business of the world. This fact has been demonstrated so uniformly as to be accepted without cavil and it almost has come to be regarded as a truism that the "boys from the farm" are the men who later are called on to exercise the controlling and decisive voice in the conduct of affairs in the cities and towns of the nation. There are several notable examples of this sort to be found in Harrison county, not the least conspicuous of which is found in the career of the gentleman whose name forms the caption of this interesting biographical sketch. James G. CAVE, who occupies the important and responsible position of cashier of the Persia Savings Bank of Persia, Harrison county, Iowa, was born on a farm in Union township, this county, January 6, 1874, the son of James C. and Jane (CLARK) CAVE, being the second in order of birth of the five children born to this union. Mr. CAVE's father was a native of England, where he was born in the year 1847. Believing better opportunities offered themselves to the energy and initiative of mankind in America, the senior CAVE left England in 1870 and came to this country, locating in Harrison county, Iowa. He engaged in farming in both Union and Washington townships and remained on the farm the remainder of his life, his death occurring in April, 1914. His widow, who also was born in England, is now living in Persia, Iowa. To James C. and Jane (CLARK) CAVE five children were born, in order of birth as follows: Infant (deceased); James G., of whom this biographical sketch treats in further detail below; Beatrice, wife of W. A. SMITH, who resides in Yoder, Colorado; Augustus F., a prosperous and progressive farmer of Washington township, Harrison county, Iowa; Victoria, wife of Peter LARSON, who resides at Council Bluffs, Iowa. James G. CAVE was reared on the paternal acres in Washington township, Harrison county, and received in his early youth such education as the district schools of the township afforded. The course of instruction here followed, he later supplemented with a course in the Woodbine Normal School, following which he took a course at Highland Park School, preparatory to entering the ranks of the public school teaching force. Thus equipped, Mr. CAVE, in 1894, began teaching, his first work in this line being performed in the district schools of Boyer township. For nine years he continued as a teacher, his important duties in that direction being ever performed with thoroughness and attention to the basic educational needs of the youth who thus came under his charge. In this relation Mr. CAVE established many friendships with his pupils in this county, who, in earnest recognition of the service rendered by him in the school room, maintain toward him a feeling of enduring regard and sincere esteem. Upon leaving the schoolmaster's desk, Mr. CAVE entered the bank of Persia and in 1904 was made assistant cashier of that institution. In 1910 the Persia Savings Bank was organized and Mr. CAVE was made cashier, he being the director and one of the chief stockholders. In addition to his activities in the bank, Mr. CAVE gives much attention to his large farming interests. He owns a highly-cultivated farm of five hundred acres in Washington and Union townships, besides an attractive modern home in Persia. In 1912 Mr. CAVE was united in marriage with Grace PATTERSON, who was born in 1889, daughter of A. C. PATTERSON, a well-known and prosperous retired farmer of Harrison county, who now resides in Magnolia. One child, a daughter, Grace Verdene, has come to bless this union and Mr. and Mrs. CAVE are supremely happy in the delightful home they have established in Persia. In the social activities of the town they take their proper part and no couple in this part of the state is any more popular, and deservedly so, than they. In the business affairs of Persia, Mr. CAVE ever is found taking his proper part in promoting the best interests of the community and he is very properly recognized as one of the most forceful and aggressive units in the upbuilding of this section of Iowa. He is a member of the Masonic order, his affiliation being with the lodge of Persia, in whose affairs he takes an active interest. Though deeply interested in civic affairs, Mr. CAVE, politically, is not a partisan of the extreme type, believing that the voter of an independent mind often is able to wield a larger and more beneficent influence upon the public weal, in which belief he is yearly being supported more and more by many of the most thoughtful elements of the life of the nation. Source: 1915 Harrison County Iowa History, pp. 491, 492, 493. Family Researcher: NA

www.rootsweb.com/~wiwausha/obits005.html Waushara County Obituaries Waushara Argus of 15 Jan, 1984. PLAINFIELD RAYMOND J. Caves, 82, Plainfield, died Tuesday at McAllen Methodist Hospital, McAllen, Texas. He was born March 17, 1902, in Adams County, the son of Allie and Bertha Caves. He married Iva Mae Wood, March 29, 1930, in Plainfield. (Note from Jo: Iva was the daugher of Jesse and Dollie Lou (Ellsworth) Wood.) Mr. Caves was a lifelong resident of the Plainfield area and was a farmer. He was the assessor for the the town of Plainfield for several years, a member of the Waushar Electric Company Board of Directors and a steward in the Plainfield Grange. Surviving are his widow; one son, Raymond R. "Bud" Caves, Plainfield; one sister, Ruby Waterman, Bancroft; and five grandchildren; and two great-grandchildren. Services will be at 1:30 p.m. Saturday at the United Methodist Church, the Rev. Lester Ott officiating. Burial will be in the spring in the Plainfield Village Cemetery. Friends may call from 6:30 to 9 p.m. today at Gasperic Funeral Home. A memorial has been established. Contributed by Jo Orvik ------------- EDITH CAVES - 1984 HANCOCK Edith Caves, 89, Hancock, died Tuesday in Wild Rose Manor. She was born Aug. 15, 1895, in Ashland, the daughter of George and Sophia Kelley Waterman. She married Reginald Caves Aug. 26, 1919, in Hancock. He died Oct. 10, 1964. Mrs. Caves graduated from the Teachers Normal School, Milwaukee, and taught at New London and Hancock until she married. She was a member of United Church of Christ, Hancock, and a life member of the Hancock Eastern Star. Surviving are two sons, Earl, Route 2, Plainfield, and George Eugene, Apache Junction, Ariz.; one sister, Clara Hall, Wild Rose Manor; nine grandchildren and 12 great-grandchildren. Services will be at 1:30 p.m. Friday in the United Church of Christ, with the Rev. Devon Allen officiating. Burial will be in the Hancock Cemetery. Friends may call after 4 p.m. Thursday at Hamilton-Ayars Funeral Home, Hancock, and at the church from noon Friday until the time of services. An Eastern Star service will be at 8 p.m. Thursday at the funeral home. Contributed by Jo Orvik --------------- WILD ROSE- No date noted. Contributed by Jo Orvik. Ross Caves, 86, Wild Rose, died Friday morning in Wild Rose Community Memorial Hospital. He was born Sept. 18, 1896, in Hancock, the son of Albert and Nellie Ross Caves. He married Grace Morgan, June 26, 1919, in Grand Marsh. She died Jujne 11, 1976. Mr. Caves was a member of United Methodist Church, Wild Rose, and the Eastern Star and Masons. He former owned and operated the Caves Trucking Co. In Wild Rose. Surviving are one daughter, Mrs. Robert (Merna Bell) Jones, Wild Rose; one sister Lynda Ostrum, Wautoma; 13 grandchildren and 15 great-grandchildren. Services will be Monday at 11a.m. in United Methodist Church, Wild Rose, the Rev. John Thompson officiating. Burial will be Oak Hill Cemetery, Wild Rose. Friends may call at Holly Funeral Home, Wild Rose, today from 6-8 p.m., with a Masonic service at 8. ===================================== ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/ok/grady/obits/caveswl.txt WAYMON L. CAVES 24-Mar-1992 Graveside services were held Saturday, 28-Mar-1992 at 2 p.m. in the Fairview Cemetery at Tuttle for Waymon L. Caves, 78, of Schertz, Texas, who died 24-Mar-1992. Burial was under the direction of Eisenhour Funeral Home of Blanchard, Ok. Mr. Caves served in the United States Army during World War II and worked for the Civil Service at Randolph Air Force Base in Texas for a number of years. Survivors include one daughter, one son, and a host of brothers and sisters. USGENWEB NOTICE: In keeping with our policy of providing free information on the Internet, data may be used by non-commercial entities, as long as this message remains on all copied material. These electronic pages may NOT be reproduced in any format for profit or for presentation by other persons or organizations. ================================ http://obits.conleynet.com/citizen/2001/May/17/03.htm. KENNETH L. CAVES MAYVILLE - Kenneth L. Caves, 77, of 365 1/2 Park St., Mayville, died on Wednesday, May 16, 2001, at Hospice Home of Hope, Fond du Lac. A Mass of Christian burial will be held on Friday, May 18, at 2 p.m., at St. Mary's Catholic Church, Mayville. The Rev. Charles Wester will officiate. Burial will be in Westfield Cemetery. Mr. Caves was born on Feb. 11, 1924, in Westfield, the son of Cela and Mary (Ogle) Caves. He was married on Jan. 15, 1947, to Dorothy Vogel in Westfield. Mr. Caves was a 1942 graduate of Westfield High School. He farmed in the Westfield area, ran a service station in Westfield, worked in construction in the Madison area, owned and operated the Mayville Liquor Store and was employed at MEC, retiring in 1979. He was a member of St. Mary's Catholic Church, Mayville. Survivors include one son, David Caves, Westfield; one daughter, Marsha (Ron) Henkel, Mayville; one daughter- in-law, Romaine Connor, Eden; special friend, Gracie Tarr, Mayville; five grandchildren; nieces, nephews, relatives and friends. He was preceded in death by his parents; one brother, Keith Caves; one niece, Marlene Gartland, and one son, Bob Caves. Friends may call on Friday, May 18, from noon until the time of service at St. Mary's Catholic Church, Mayville. A special thank you is extended to Hospice Home of Hope volunteers and staff. The Koepsell Funeral Home, Mayville, is serving the family. ================================ www.rootsweb.com/~nspictou/wexfordhattons.html THE HATTONS OF WEXFORD and IRELAND MR. CAVES of Naas James Hatton (b.c.1704 Wicklow) After studying under Mr Caves of Naas, he entered Trinity College Dublin 2 June 1723 at age 19, as a pensioner. ===================================== http://www.beamint.com/ger/caves/. ERIN CAVES Curriculum vitae Erin Caves, born in Stockton, California, graduated from the Oberlin College Conservatory of Music with a Bachelor of Music degree. He then went on to earn a Master of Music and an Artist Diploma from the Yale University School of Music..... ========================== www.joecaves.com/about_joe_caves.html JOSEPH CAVES and ASSOCIATES Joseph Caves is an attorney and registered lobbyist in California specializing in environmental and natural resources law. Prior to founding Joseph Caves and Associates in 1993, Mr. Caves worked for the California Legislature for 13 years as a legislative assistant, committee consultant, and legislative staff director. Mr. Caves is a founding member of the California Environmental Dialogue, a collaborative made up of representatives of major business and environmental organizations, and serves as Director of the Environ- mental Policy Network, a nonprofit project of the Tides Center. Mr. Caves is a graduate of the University of California of Santa Barbara and of Hastings College of the Law. He is a member of the Environmental Law Section of the California State Bar Association. ================================= >

www.wichita.edu/insidewsu/@9-21-2000/Obits.htm INSIDE WSU Vol. 17, No. 3 September 21, 2000 Issue ABNER LEON CAVE, 64, of Wichita died Aug. 29. Mr. Cave had worked for the Physical Plant since 1990. Survivors include siblings William of Wichita, Norvall of Englewood, Colo., Velma Weiss of Everett, Wash., and Ruby Lindeberg of Parsons, Kan. A memorial has been established with the WSU Foundation. Inside WSU is published by the Office of University Communications for Wichita State University faculty, staff and friends ====================================== ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/tx/potter/obits/1999/11sep99.txt TERRY LYNN CAVE Terry Lynn Cave, 54, formerly of Amarillo, died Monday, Sept. 6, 1999. Graveside services will be at 10 a.m. Monday in Memorial Park Cemetery with the Rev. Bill Gehm of Grace Community Church officiating. Cremation was by Riverside Crematory in Boise, Idaho. Mr. Cave was born in Dalhart and raised in Amarillo. He attended West Texas State University and Utah State University and was a veteran of the Marine Corps. For the past 12 years, he had lived in the Pacific Northwest. Survivors include three sons, Ted of Amarillo and Troy and Temple, both of Dallas; a daughter, Michelle Moreno of Dallas; a brother, David of Amarillo; three sisters, Bette Cave Ramsey of Amarillo and Patricia Carter and Drue Lewis, both of Conroe; and nine grandchildren. The family suggests, in lieu of flowers, memorials be to Terry L. Cave Scholarship Fund in care of Amarillo National Bank, P.O. Box 1, Bell Street Branch, Amarillo, TX 79105. ------ ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/tx/potter/obits/2000/13sep00.txt CLYDE V. CAVE HEREFORD - Clyde V. Cave, 97, died Tuesday, Sept. 12, 2000. Graveside services will be at 10 a.m. today in West Park Cemetery with Michael Carr officiating. Arrangements are by Gililland-Watson Funeral Home. Mr. Cave was born in Crandall. He served in the Army during World War II. He moved to Deaf Smith County in 1953 from Plainview. He owned a variety store. He was a member of First United Methodist Church and the American Legion. He married Eula Lee Gilbreath in 1942 at Happy. She died Sept. 4. Survivors include special friends, Norman and Sheri Kerr of Hereford. The family suggests memorials be to Hereford Meals on Wheels Program. ------ USGENWEB NOTICE: In keeping with our policy of providing free information on the Internet, data may be used by non-commercial entities, as long as this message remains on all copied material. These electronic pages may NOT be reproduced in any format for profit or for presentation by other persons or organizations. ========================================= www.dailyindependent.com/archives/may_01/obits/obits05112001.html The Daily Independent On-Line Ashland, Kentucky 5-11-2001 Greenup WALTER CAVE 1923-2001 Walter E. Cave, 77, of Flatwoods, died Thursday in Our Lady of Bellefonte Hospital. Mr. Cave was born Aug. 24, 1923, in Streator, Ill., a son of the late Ervin and Mary Mae White Cave. He was owner of Walts Mobile Home Transit in Flatwoods, a World War II Army veteran and a member of Veterans of Foreign Wars Post 1168 of Greenup, American Legion Post 325 of Flatwoods and Eagles Aerie 2329 of Ashland. Surviving are his wife, Bonnie Caudill Cave; two daughters, Mary Diane Steward of Lincoln Park, Mich., and Tammy Renee Rose of Richmond; and five grandchildren. The funeral will be held at 11 a.m. Tuesday at Carman Funeral Home in Flatwoods by Terry Browning. Burial will be in Bellefonte Memorial Gardens. Friends may call from 6 to 9 p.m. Monday at the funeral home. =====================================

Spam and Flaming: Spam is normally caught by the filters at Rootsweb main center, and they seldom make the lists or board. But personal postings do slip through sometimes. I am sorry we cannot catch all of them unless I have a restricted list where every message is sent to me before posting. I have not felt a need for that action as we have had a very friendly list so far. To all list members Rootsweb has strict rules about Flaming on the list and boards. Please in the future: If someone posts a message that has offended you or someone else on the list, please do not reply on the list. Know that I will be taking care of the problem. I know it is hard when you have been offended, but for the sake of the list, please just delete it. If you feel it is something I need to see, please forward the message to me, as sometimes they slip through and I dont see them. You can be assured I will take care of it behind the scene and privately. Our list is not for name calling or hurtful messages and it will not be tolerated on the list. Now lets all get back to the great messages we are getting from our members. Sue Ellen Cave Ash Cave list and board manager

web.uvic.ca/history-robinson/contexts/vdc_feb28_1866.html The Daily Chronicle, (Victoria) Feb 28, 1866 "From Salt Spring Island and Cowichan" From Rev. JCB Cave of Comox, who arrived last evening from Salt Spring Is. via Cowichan and Saanich, we learn that he visited all the settlements on salt Spring Island and took a census of the population, from which it appears that there are 17 couples, 22 single men, and 42 children on the Island. without including those at Burgoyne Bay (which place he was unable to reach) where there are about 15 souls, making the entire population 152. Mr Cave conducted the moring service on Saturday last, at one of the settlements, and there was a good attendance of children at Sunday school. A school house has been erected and completed with the exception of the flooring. They have 42 children and want a teacher. After the moring servive the male portion of the popuolation conducted our informant over Tait mountain to Begg's settlement, where the service was held in the afternoon. Mr Cave departed from SSI on Monday morning, arriving at Maple Bay about 11 o'clock on the same day...[goes to Cowichan, Maple Bay] Mr Cave regards Salt Spring Island as one of the most promising settlements he has ever visited. ========

Hello For over three years now I have compiled a family database for the Rogers/Rodgers and Cave(s) because I have the time, the interest and well, my mom's maiden name is Caves, a descendant of a Cave. All of our various research work, placed into one large family file is the way to go. It worked well for the Rogers/Rodgers, and found many problem areas that researchers can now compare works in one file. I'd be glad to combine all of your research into one file, but that is up to you. I only offer because I have the time and enjoy looking at all the various branches of the family. Maybe somebody else would like to do it, either way, it is a very good idea. Thomas William Rogers http://www.expage.com/ancestorial

Dear "friday" Gosh I didn't mean to start a family spat. What would our David/John/Mary Cave forebearers think of us now? Honestly, I believe there's been a misunderstanding. I am in no way trying to criticize or, as you say, "critique" anyone. All that I (among others) suggest is that we have a place on the Internet to pool primary sources on Cave ancestry. From these primary sources genealogies are constructed, along with secondary evidence such as old family trees, letters, etc. There are many confusing and contradictory Cave genealogies on the Internet. Historical accuracy is becoming the standard even in amateur genealogy. If there is a place with primary referenced sources, then we won't all have to do the same work over and over again to verify or disprove the possible links. Why reinvent the wheel? As far as the arrogant/obtuse/intolerant/obsessive-compulsive comments, well all I can say is you are welcome to your views. Personally I think there is already too much misdirected anger and conflict in the world. So if you insist on further name calling and self deprecating sarcasm please e-mail me privately lest we bore the other folks. Michael Walker In a message dated 4/1/2002 10:30:50 AM Eastern Standard Time, friday@argohouston.com writes: > Mike, > > You want a perfect world! > > I'm just happy with getting information and I do the > work myself to verify it ... I am not so obsessive > or compulsive to want a full academic recitation > according to MLA standards ... > > Please remember MANY of the individuals who are > doing family tree research are older, new to > computers, new to research, and are not academic > scholars... > > Instead of critiquing, why don't you set-up you own > perfect world website! > > I personally feel your comments were obtuse and > arrogant, but that's the independent Southerner in > me talking ... so, I'll be kind and just suggest you > be a little more tolerant of us ignorant folks who > don't meet your standards or precise/exact wording... > >

Lots of interesting Cave family history here...... www.dorsetooser.fsnet.co.uk/ Dorset Ooser mask and the CAVEs of Holt Farm. Photos ~ The grave of Doctor Edward Cave ....in Lansdown Cemetery, Bath. The graves of several Cave families in ...Saint Osmund’s churchyard, Melbury Osmond. The grave of Thomas Cave in ...Wye churchyard, Kent.

www.usgennet.org/usa/in/county/orange/svobits29.htm#cavetj Orange County Obituaries (Indiana) CAVE, THOMAS J. Springs Valley Herald (November 21, 1940) Death Notice Thomas J. Cave, 96, last surviving Civil War veteran in Orange County passed away quietly Monday night at eleven o'clock at his home on College Street. "Uncle Tom" had been in failing health for several months and gravely ill several days before death ended his long life. Mr. Cave was the last surviving member of the Basil B. Decker Post here. He enlisted with the 18th Indiana Infantry and saw active service in several important battles in the Civil War. He was widely known in Orange and surrounding counties and enjoyed a great circle of friends and acquaintances who mourn his passing. Death brought to a close the long life of this man who had become as familiar here as the material landmarks of the town. His friendship and interesting stories of the Civil War era will long be remembered. His demise brings to a close the connecting link between this generation and that of the 1860s. Funeral services were held at the home Wednesday afternoon at 2:00 o'clock. Interment will be made in the Ames Chapel cemetery, with W. V. Ritter & Son in charge. He is survived by a son, W. W. Cave and two daughters, Mrs. Belle Wells and Mrs. Clark Hill, all of French Lick. --------------------- Springs Valley Herald (November 28, 1940) Obtuary THOMAS J. CAVE Cave, son of John and Sarah Kearby Cave, was born in Dubois County, Indiana, September 11, 1844. John Cave was born in Spartanburg County, South Carolina. Thomas Jefferson Cave, the father of John, came to Indiana in 1816 and entered land in Dubois County, along what was then known as the Buffalo Trail and which is now known as State Road 56. A few miles from where his father located John Cave and Sarah Kearby founded a home in 1830. Into this home Thomas as born and lived as a boy in a family of seven children, he being the youngest. His opportunities for an education were limited and the first schools which he attended were subscription schools and of short duration. On the farm he learned some valuable lessons in the school of experience, amid the primitive surroundings of the pioneer life of that day. At the age of thirteen he was bereft of his father and from that time, he was thrown largely upon his own resources. Some years later his mother was married to Matthew Kirkland. In this home were seven stepbrothers and sisters, among them was Mary Christina, who later became his wife. At the age of sixteen, he answered the call of President Abraham Lincoln to defend his country's flag and enlisted in the 18th Indiana Infantry where he served more than four years, until the dis- banding of the Union Army. During the first three years of the war he was under the command of General U. S. Grant of the Western Division of the Army. He survived many conflicts in Missouri, Arkansas, Tennessee, Mississippi, Louisiana and other states which included Champion Hills, Black River and many others, culminating in the siege of Vicksburg which ended July 4, 1863. After this his regiment saw active service in Georgia and the southeastern states and was later trans- ferred to the Eastern Division of the Army under the command of General Phil Sheridan. This campaign was also noted for many severe conflicts. He was in the battle of Cedar Creek, Virginia, when Sheridan made his famous ride from "Winchester Twenty Miles Away" and turned the fleeing Union forces back to a victorious ending. In this battle his oldest brother, William W. Cave, was wounded from which he died later in a hospital in Baltimore, Maryland. He sustained another severe loss in this struggle, a member of his company and boyhood friend, was reported missing and was never heard from after that battle. After he was mustered out of service at Darien, Georgia, he arrived home in September, 1865, a few days before reaching his twenty-first birthday. Soon after his return from the army he became engaged in farming. On February 17, 1867 he was married to Mary C. Kirkland. This marriage was severed by the death of his companion, after a life of almost 71 years together, on Christmas Day, 1937. To this union four children were born, one son and three daughters, three of whom survive him. Stella went to her crowning in 1915. He moved to Orange County in February, 1873 to land that is now a part of the Country Club Golf Course. He retired in 1913 and moved to French Lick where he resided until his passing, with a continuous life in this community for almost three score and ten years. For many years in connection with his farming interest, he was engaged in various other enterprises, which included saw milling, grist mill, also the practice of law. He was the oldest member of the Orange County Bar. He became well known as an auctioneer which line he followed for many years. On account of his varied activities, he formed a wide acquaintance and perhaps in his active life knew as many people as any one of his day within his county and those adjoining. The lack of educational opportunities in early life did not deprive him of acquiring knowledge. He was an inveterate reader and became well informed on current topics and all matters of general civic interest. He possessed an engaging personality and easily made acquaintances. He had a natural bent toward politics and was notable among those of his acquaintance as unwavering in his convictions. He was positive and unyielding in what he believed to be right. This attitude was accentuated, no doubt in large measure, to his Civil War experience and the years of Reconstruction, which followed. In his religious beliefs, he was likewise positive and uncompromising. In his early life he united with the United Brethren Church at Hillham, Indiana and several years ago his membership was transferred to the French Lick Methodist Church where he was faithful in support and in attendance until his hearing became impaired. His varied experiences in life made him an interesting and entertaining conversationalist, and his reminiscences were many and quite vivid. His life extended from the days when men and women wore homespun into a new day of rapidly changing scenes and events. Through it all he never lost interest in life about him and in the world, this interest, remaining with him until just a few days before his going. A number of years ago, he became the sole survivor of the local Basil B. Decker Post of the Grand Army of the Republic and later he became the lone survivor of his regiment of the Civil War. His death takes from Orange County its last soldier of that great struggle. He lived a long and active life and fell asleep November 18, 1940 with a span of life covering 96 years, two months and seven days. The three surviving children are W. W. Cave, Mrs. Belle Wells and Mrs. Isis Hill, all of French Lick, also seven grandchildren and three great grandchildren. Besides these, a large number of other relatives with an almost unnumbered list of friends and acquaintances, all of whom will miss him greatly. Submitted by Tom Agan.

Cave, C. J. P. (Charles John Philip), b.1871. Clouds & weather phenomena : for artists and other lovers of nature / by C. J. P. Cave. Cambridge [Eng.] : University Press, 1926. -------------- Cave, C. J. P. (Charles John Philip), b.1871. Medieval carvings in Exeter Cathedral. With a note on the art of the Exeter carvers, by Nikolaus Pevsner. London, Penguin Books [1953] -------------- Cave, C. J. P. (Charles John Philip), b. 1871. Roof bosses in medieval churches; an aspect of Gothic sculpture. Illus. with telephotos. Cambridge [Eng.] University Press, 1948. ---------------- Cave, C. J. P. (Charles John Philip), b. 1871. The structure of the atmosphere in clear weather; a study of soundings with pilot balloons, by C.J.P. Cave ... Cambridge, The University press, 1912. =====================================

http://homepages.poptel.org.uk/markburton/felvis.html >From the Morning Star, Wed. 9 Jan 2002 Obituary: FRANK CAVE National Union of Mineworkers' vice-president ========================================= Google: enter "Mark Cave" Lawstar Mark Cave (MarkCave@Lawstar.com), the Chief Executive Officer of Lawstar, was educated at Stowe School and Nottingham University in England. Mr Cave's business career started at Lloyd's Insurance market in the City of London, with Sedgewick Offshore Resources. He entered investment banking in 1982 and became a senior trader in the London Eurobond markets. Mr Cave left the markets in 1988 to travel the world, and came to California in 1990, where he founded a company that became the largest State Bar Certified legal referral service in California. Mr Cave's experience with referral services inspired him to look for a product that more adequately served the consumer's legal needs. In early 1997 Mr Cave became an investor in LAWSTAR, and joined the company as Chief Operating Officer. Shortly thereafter he was promoted to President of LAWSTAR. ======================================== www.folklegacy.com/about.htm FOLK-LEGACY RECORDS, INC. ...I first came upon the Green Man in C. J. P. CAVE's Roof Bosses in Mediaeval Churches (Cambridge, 1948). Photographic studies made by Mr. Cave revealed carvings on the beams of parish churches and cathedrals that had never been observed or, at least, had not been commented on previously. The carvings, usually located in obscure, shadowed places, too high to be viewed without the aid of field glasses, depicted "a face with leaves sprouting from the corners of its mouth, its eyelids, eyebrows and ears the face of the Green Man," as John Speirs described the discovery in his Medieval English Poetry, the Non- Chaucerian Tradition (London, 1957)........ =========================================== Google: enter "Cave" West Dyne B&B West Dyne B&B We drove on to our next B&B, West Deyne. It turned out to be one of the more memorable places we stayed. Our hostess, Mrs. Joan Cave brought us tea and biscuits after she seated us in a lovely glassed-in porch or solarium looking out into her garden and across the beautiful English countryside. We could see patches of yellow flowers - the fields of rapeseed which is grown for its oil. Jimbo, her old yellow cat, joined us for tea. Apparently the solarium one of his favorite sleeping spots. Mrs. Cave showed us a little private sitting room with fireplace and TV (Picture of (which we never turned on) the CAVES) just inside the solarium, breakfast room beside it. A little turn of back stairs led up to our bedroom and the bathroom was down the hall. It was like having our own apartment. She was such a "mom," always checking on us to see if there was something she could do to make our stay more comfortable. Although she is probably 80 plus years of age, she keeps busy by helping older people. She cooks and cleans for at least three people, and one of them (age 94) she calls on three times a day. This is in addition to keeping the B&B running and taking care of her husband and garden. Mr. Cave paints, and the walls are lined with his work, which is actually quite good. He has also written two books, based in the area where they live - known by the way, as the Cotswolds. Their home is just on the edge of Stow-on-the-Wold. ========================================== www.uk-history.co.uk/danlam.htm The Peterborough Pub Archive ......Soon after Lambert's death there became a ready market for Lambert memorabilia. His custom built coach was auctioned off and his clothes were sold to a Mr CAVE of Boston who displayed them in his home town. Lambert's clothes were returned to Stamford in 1842 when the landlord of the Ram Jam Inn, James Dixon purchased them with the intention of displaying them....... ========================================== www.martello-towers.co.uk/55.htm English Heritage Buildings at Risk Tower 55 Status: Still standing, derelict Location: Norman's Bay Grid Reference: TQ 682053 The tower was put up for auction as well as Tower 57 in August 1908, but was withdrawn after failing to reach its reserve price, bidding reaching £500. The tower was said to be elaborately fitted after its use in the wireless experiments. However, the tower had become a summer residence by 1910, a balcony added to the seaward side, and extra doors and windows knocked through. Used by a Mr. CAVE, his son was in the Royal Navy during the Second World War and served with Commander Hilary Mead, who compiled the first historical survey of the surviving Martello Towers of England in 1948. ============================================

www.valleylife.net/sentinel/000608/obits.html Warren Sentinel June 8, 2000 Obituaries and Church Briefs DONALD WILLIE CAVE Donald Willie Cave, 80, of Front Royal died Saturday, June 3, 2000, at Royal Haven Rest Home. A graveside service was conducted June 6 in Washington Masonic Cemetery,Washington, Va. with the Rev. John Burke officiating. Mr. Cave was born Feb. 4, 1920 in Page County to the late Mamie L. Jenkins and Casper L. Cave. He was the husband of the late Edith Mae WoodwardCave. Mr. Cave is survived by one son, Donald "Pete" Cave of Washington, Va.; three step-sons, Aubrey F. Foster of Towson, Md. and William F. Foster and Jimmy D. Foster, both of Flint Hill, Va.; three daughters, Juanita A. Alther of Rixeyville, Va., Brenda D. Duncan of Richmond, Va., and Wilma L. Darnell of Jeffersontown; and two step-daughters, Arbelius Stringfellow of Culpeper, Va. and Marie Martin of Belair, Md.; seven grandchildren; three great-grandchildren. ========================================== www.reporternews.com/2001/obits/0112.html Abilene Reporter-News Thursday, January 11, 2001 BARRON DAVIS CAVE WINTERS - Barron Davis Cave, 76, of San Angelo, died Thursday, Jan. 11, 2001, at his home. Graveside services will be 2 p.m. Saturday in the Hylton Cemetery with Chaplain Paul Terry officiating, directed by Winters Funeral Home. Mr. Cave was a U.S. Navy veteran of WWII. He married Samie Lee Cunniff in Big Spring. He worked in real estate for a number of years. Survivors are his wife, Samie Cave of San Angelo; two sons, Gary Cave of Hill Top Lakes, and Kelly Cave of San Angelo; a daughter, Karen Pilgrim of Clyde; a sister, Johnnie Faye Stokes of San Antonio; six grandchildren; and two great-grandchildren. ================================ www.socbears.com/sunshine.htm 6/10/01 JIM CAVE Camille Cave Vinson's father, Jim Cave, passed away June 10, at the Veteran's Hospital in Dallas. He was 78 years old. Mr. Cave owned and operated the Cave-Smith Funeral Home in South Oak Cliff for over 35 years. He retired in 1985. He is survived by his wife, Marjorie; son, Jim Gordon Cave (SOC '60); daughter Sharon Rebecca "Becky" Cave (SOC '61); and Marjorie "Camille" Cave Vinson (SOC '63). There will be a "Visitation for Family and Friends" on Tuesday, June 12 from 6-8:00 p.m. at the Ben F. Brown Memorial Funeral Home, 707 N. McArthur Blvd., Irving. Graveside services will be Wednesday, June 13 at 2:00 p.m. at the Grove Hill Cemetary, R.L. Thornton Frwy. (I-30) and Samuel Blvd. ==================================

www.salon.com/tech/feature/2001/11/19/bush_oil/index.html By DAMIEN CAVE Nov. 19, 2001 The United States of oil... No administration has ever been more in bed with the energy industry -- but does that mean Big Oil is calling Bush's shots? First of two parts. ======================================= rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/obits/text/scobits/2001/jul/cavej.txt (see website for family/history) OBIT: JAMES MURICE CAVE b. SC SOURCE: The Post and Courier, July 21, 2001 SUBMITTED BY: The Post and Courier ======================================= www.rootsweb.com/~tngibson/miscdocs/journal-US-house.htm Journal of the House of Representatives of the United States, 1789-1873 MONDAY, April 2, 1832. CAVE Johnson extension of the mail route - May 10, 1836 ======================================= gainesvillesun.com/OBITUARIES/articles/2001-12-11obits.shtml The Gainsville Sun Tuesday, December 11, 2001 OBITUARIES ROBERT CLAY CAVE MELROSE - Robert Clay Cave died Sunday at North Florida Regional Medical Center. He was 74. A native of Laureville, Ohio, he moved to Melrose 15 years ago from Chillicothe, Ohio. Mr. Cave was a retired U.S. Air Force chief master sergeant and a retired department manager for the Veterans Affairs Medical Center. He began his service in the Army in 1945 and completed his military service in the Air Force in 1975. He was a veteran of World War II, the Korean War and the Vietnam War. He was a Protestant. Survivors include his wife, Louise Riley Cave of Melrose; a daughter, Vicki Mann of Richmond, Va.; two grandchildren and a great-grandchild. Arrangements by Moring Funeral Home. ==========================================

Derry Journal.com Tuesday, April 2, 2002 Bloody Sunday Inquiry Cameraman attacked because of BBC sticker September 14, 2001 A LOCAL cameraman who was tasked to cover the NICRA march on Bloody Sunday told the Inquiry how he was attacked when he tried to film two injured men because of a BBC sticker on the side of his camera. CYRIL CAVE, who was working with BBC journalist John Bierman on Bloody Sunday told how he went into a house in William Street along with his sound recordist Jim Deeney where they had been told two injured men were being treated. "Once we got inside people noticed the BBC sticker on the side of my camera and someone shouted 'get the f***ing BBC out of here!'. "There was a lot of hostility towards anything British at that particular moment and some of the people in the hallway of the house started to attack us. "The front of my camera was damaged in the fracas and the tungsten light filter attached to the lens fell off. I reached down to pick it up and was kicked and punched, " Mr. Cave said, adding that he left the house as soon as he could. Mr. Cave made his way to the corner of Harvey Street and Chamberlain Street where he saw Father Daly approach in front of a group of men carrying the body of Jackie Duddy. After filming the scene, Mr. Cave made his way to the rubble barricade where he saw two officers, one of whom was Captain Michael Jackson. "They asked us 'Where are you going?', I replied 'We're going through your lines'. One of them said 'Be careful'." Mr. Cave told the Inquiry that the soldier who warned him to be careful was Captain Jackson, who is now a General in the army. He said that himself and John Bierman then attempted to interview Father Daly, but were interrupted by gunfire which appeared to come from the City Walls. Gunshot The tribunal was then shown Mr. Cave's footage in which a voice could clearly be heard to shout "Take cover they are shooting from the Walls" as gunshots are heard. The BBC crew then made their way to Barrier 14 in William Street where they interviewed General Ford. "The soldiers let us through the barrier to talk to Ford. He told us that two people had been killed. Bierman replied that he had already seen seven people who had been killed. "Ford seemed shocked," Mr. Cave said.

Hello Ok, for three years or more I have been in a nearly desperate search of my great grandmother's gravesite and praying for a photograph for my mom, now 83, who would very much like to know about the grandmother she never met. Today, I was given an excerpt from a unknown book, that had been given to a Ernest Eakins in 1990 by a Delores Fay Greeg Harboldt Evans of Melbourne Florida. Tommorrow, I may learn more about the book. But tonight, I want to tell you this new information. Jennie E. Swisher, born abt 1856, who married Merritt Henry Cave on October 16, 1877, may actually be, "get this" Virginia Ellen Swisher. Virginia Ellen Swisher married Merritt Henry Cave, and died on November 27, 1920. But she was known as "Jeannie". All the legal documents I have found had Jenny or Jennie on them, so this turned me for a flip at first. However, in the material is that this Jeannie was in the Zeigfield Follies in 1920. She managed some apartments, made beautiful paper flowers and loved to dance and have fun. She had sparkley devilish eyes. Was blinded by glaucoma and died of cancer. Her second husband's name was Joseph Cooper. (Remember, I found her daughter listing her mom's name as Jennie Cooper on her marriage license in 1908?). They had one daughter, Katie Ellen Edmundson-Bauer-Chrisman-Eggelstone born 5/17/1899 in Seymour Missouri. (Where the heck is Seymour Missouri? If that is where Jennie's daughter was born, they maybe that is where she is buried?; since I can't find her after three years of looking) Now, for those of you who have been aggressively helping me; Do you think that is a big enough curve ball in genealogy research? Well, if that isn't enough for ya!!!!! Maybe this is. On several documents, as previously stated, I have found this Jeannie Swisher as being born in Virginia, Missouri, Clayton Illinois, and now.... guess what, this information states she is born in.... County Cork Ireland... But her parents, Absolom S. Swisher and Sarah E. Spicer resided in Adams County Illinois near Kellerville, where they are now buried on the family farm in a Cemetery known as the Amen Cemetery. That said, as I am pulling my hair out of my head.... here. Oh, well, if nothing else, if she really was in the Zeigfield Follies in 1920, maybe there is in fact a photo of here somewhere out there afterall. Thomas W. Rogers, born May 9, 1954 311 N. Main Street P. O. Box 85 Deer Creek, Illinois 61733 Notes: Information from excerpts of a unknown book, unknown author, given to Ernest Eakins in 1990 by Delores Faye Gregg Harboldt Evans, 2809 Vassar Street, Melbourne, Florida. 32901 Tele: 407-676-4293 for the genealogy of Virginia Swisher. (Phone no longer valid in February 2002). Notes: This Reel below of the Ziegfield Follies is Jeannie Swisher who married Merritt Henry Cave on October 16, 1877 in Brown County, Illinois. Reel # 183 THEATER OF THE AIR: Fanny by Gaslight, Death Takes a Holiday, Cannibal, Dominant Sex, Scarlet Pimpernel, Blanche Fury, Against the Wind, Jeannie Thomas William Rogers called and made inquiries in February of 2002, in an attempt to locate a copy of this Radio Show, however, such was not available. Metro Golden Memories, 1-800-538-6675. John & Marg Sebert, ------------------------------------------------------- Kingwood College Library American Cultural History - The Twentieth Century 1910 -1919 Facts about this decade...... ... The Ziegfeld girls earned $75 / week........ ... Average salary $750 / year.... Subj: Re: Radio Manuscripts Date: 3/2/02 3:04:43 PM Central Standard Time From: lgroebe@genericradio.com To: Travelback4u@aol.com Sent from the Internet (Details) on 3/1/02 4:06 PM, Travelback4u@aol.com at Travelback4u@aol.com wrote: > Hello > > I am trying to locate a copy of a manuscript, and possible information on > a Ziegfield Follies Girl, that was in a Ziegfield Follies Radio Show in 1920. > I've been told no actual recordings of such exist anymore, but I am > interested in a manuscript and possible photo record of her. > > Here is what I know: > > 1920 Reel # 183 THEATER OF THE AIR: > Fanny by Gaslight, Death Takes a Holiday, Cannibal, Dominant Sex, Scarlet > Pimpernel, Blanche Fury, Against the Wind, Jeannie > > I'm not sure if the Reel #183 is an original number or a number placed on > this by the list of Ziegfield Follies I got it from. > > This Jeannie is my great grandmother. Mom mom, now 83, never met her, as > she died the same year this was on the air in 1920. Nobody in the family has > ever found a photo of her and I have been looking for a photo to give my mom. > It would also be interesting to give her a copy of the manuscript of the > Radio Show. You indeed have a mystery here -- one I can't solve. But perhaps I can provide a few clues. Let's start with "Reel 183." This appears to be a reel-to-reel tape recording that is part of a 100-tape collection donated to Washington State University by radio show collectors Paul and Grace Pitzer. There's a page on the collection at http://www.wsulibs.wsu.edu/mmr/pitzer.htm Mr. Pitzer may have a home page at http://members.home.net/pcpitzer ...but I can't access it at the moment, so I can't be sure. (He also appears to have this email address: pcpitzer@home.com.) The reel itself would appear to be 8 episodes from a radio series called "Theater of the Air." I believe this was probably a syndicated radio show (as opposed to a network show) sold to individual stations and provided originally as big 16" transcription discs. What "Theater of the Air" is almost certainly *not* is a radio show made in 1920. It may be ABOUT 1920, but it isn't FROM that year, as radio drama (or recordings of same) didn't exist yet! More than likely this was a series produced in the 1940s sometime. (There were several famous shows that had "Theater of the Air" as part of their names, but these titles aren't on any of the logs from those shows, so apparently this is a relatively obscure syndicated production.) So you should be able to get a recording of the radio drama from WSU. The script is likely lost to history, unless somehow the recording mentions up the writer's name (somewhat unlikely) and that could be traced. So now *I'm* still mystified -- what was the "1920" date you referenced if not the date of the radio show? Is this the date of the Ziegfeld show that "Jeannie" was in? There was a nice coffee-table book on Ziegfeld published a few years ago -- "The Ziegfeld Touch" written by some descendants and published by Harry Abrams co. I'm looking at a friend's copy as I write. It lists his major productions year by year. In 1920 there was a "Ziegfeld Follies", a "Ziegfeld Midnight Frolic" , and a "Nine O'Clock Frolic" among others. Pretty good stars in some of them - W.C. Fields, Fanny Brice, etc. I found no "Jeannie" in the book, but I do see some cast pictures, and your great-grandmother may well be in them. It may well be worth looking for this book at the library or on Amazon. I hope this was of some use to you - let me know how things go! --Larry Groebe Generic Radio Workshop Notes and research Written By Thomas William Rogers born 5/9/1954 in Peoria Co Illinois

freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/ ~randolphroots/Randolph/Willard_P_Cave.html WILLARD P. CAVE Willard P. Cave, a leading member of the Randolph County bar and one of the well known attorneys of this section of the state is a native of Missouri and a decedent of pioneers. Mr. Cave was born at Mexico, Mo., and is a son of Frank and Catherine (Galbreath) Cave. Frank Cave was born at Columbia, Mo., and was the son of William and Mary Cave, pioneer settlers of Boone County, Mo. William Cave was a son of Richard Cave who with a brother, William Cave, came from Virginia and settled in Boone County at a very early date.They platted the original town ot Smithland, which is now the city of Columbia, Mo. Frank Cave was reared in Boone County, attending the University of Missouri and was a graduate of that institution. When the Civil War broke out, he resided at Natchitoches Parish, La., where he enlisted in the Confederate Army and served throughout the war. He died in Audrain County, Mo., in 1880, and his wife died in 1863 and her remains are buried at Caddo, Parish, La. Willard P. Cave was educated in the public schools and in the University of Missouri, as were also his father and son. Thus three generations of the Cave family are graduates of that institution. Willard P. Cave began the practice of law in 1883 and since that time has been successfully engaged in the practice in the various state and federal courts and has established a reputation of being one of the able, conscientious and fearless lawyers of this section of Missouri. Mr. Cave was first married to Octavia Ficklin, a daughter of Prof. Joseph and Penelope (Terrill) Ficklin, ve died in 1892 at Moberly, Mo. and her remains are buried at Columbia, Mo. To Willard P. and Octavia (Ficklin) Cave were born two children as follows: Catherine, married Malcolm McClellan of Jacksonville, Fla., and Helen married Homer Teachenor of Shelbina, Mo. Mr. Cave was married the second time in 1894 to Miss Fannie Lango and to this union has been born one son, Harold, who is a graduate of the University of Missouri and now taking a postgraduate course at Yale. Harold Cave served in the World War, first entering the service as a member of an ambulance unit and reached France considerably in advance of the regular American Expeditionary Forces. There were about 28 members of his unit and after reaching Paris, they took a vote to decide what they would do and 25 of the number, including Harold Cave, voted to volunteer to serve with the French Army which they did. They served in the sector between Soissons and Rheims for the term of their enlistment. Later Mr. Cave enlisted in the United States navy where he was serving when the armistice was signed. He has received a letter of thanks and a medal in appreciation of his services from the French government. Willard P. Cave has been identified with the welfare and development of Moberly and Randolph County for nearly 40 years and during that period has contributed much of his time and talent to the betterment and upbuilding of this city and county. He has served four terms as mayor of Moberly and his administrations were successful epochs in the history Moberly and marked for their progressiveness

http://www.geocities.com/~jcrosswell/Obits/obitsH.html Daily-News Record Harrisonburg, Rockingham County (VA) HALLIE M. SHIFFLETT 1998 The funeral for Hallie Mae Cave Shifflett, 74, 110 Charles St., Harrisonburg, will be held at 3 p.m. Wednesday at the Lindsey Harrisonburg Funeral Home. The Rev. John Sherfey will conduct the service. Burial will follow at Rest Haven Memorial Gardens. Mrs. Shifflett died Sunday, Feb. 22, 1998, at Rockingham Memorial Hospital in Harrisonburg. She was born March 8, 1923, in Page County, and was a daughter of the late Walter Cave and Hazel Cave Meadows. She attended school in Page County and lived in the Harrisonburg area most of her life. She was an Avon representative for 25 years before retiring in 1978. In 1970, she married Kenneth R. Shifflett, who survives. Also surviving are one son, Paul R. (Dick) Price, Timberville; one stepson, James Shifflett, Keezletown; two stepdaughters, Deborah Shifflett, McGaheysville, and Linda Shifflett, Harrisonburg; one sister, Maizie Douglas, Harrisonburg; five half brothers, Herbert Cave, Arthur Cave, Leonard Cave; Wilford Cave and Dewey Cave; five half sisters, Eunice Weaver, Helen Kelly, Lois Hurt, Della Donovan and Doris Campbell, all of Madison and Culpeper Counties.; two grandchildren; two great-grandchildren; six step-grandchildren and two step-great-grandchildren. The family will receive friends from 7 to 8 this evening at the funeral home. Memorial contributions may be made to the Harrisonburg Rescue Squad.

www.canadyfamily.com/History/Children_links/Florence_Canady_Cave.htm Walter Cave had come to Savannah from Barnwell, South Carolina, and worked at a factory. He boarded at the house owned by Florence and respected her work ethic, ingenuity and integrity. He later became out of work when the factory closed but not wanting to move he asked Florence if he could work there for his room and board. She put him to work cleaning, laundering and helping to maintain the boarding house. He found out then what a hard worker she really was. The relationship developed into more than just mutual respect between co-workers and they became husband and wife in 1899. They eventually purchased another boarding house at West Broad Street and Congress Lane and were very successful in that business. Walter later worked for many years in the "hacking" business. He drove a horse-drawn surrey which taxied customers from the Union Station on West Broad Street. He and Florence purchased a new and larger house at 646 West 35th Street. Walter Cave died of a heart attack in his backyard on November 12, 1929. He was of entertaining his grandson, Herman, Jr., and feeding the chickens when he suddenly slumped over. Florence lived another three and a half years before her death on March 22, 1933 at the age of 67. She is buried with her husband and two sons in Hillcrest Cemetery in Savannah, Georgia. Walter Simeon Cave (June 1, 1873-Nov. 12, 1929) m. 1899 Florence Lavenia Canady (July 14, 1866-March 22, 1933 ) Children: Herman Leroy Cave b. 08/30/1900 d. 08/15/1976. m. Bernice Sheppard. Their child Herman Leroy Cave, Jr. b. 1928 Edgar Wilbur Cave b. 04/09/1905 d. 12/11/1981 never married Thanks to Bertie Barbour and Hoyt Canady for the information contained herein.

Wow. Cave's Cove has certainly done a great job organizing some of the early Cave information. I know how much work that is. I would just offer a couple of preliminary suggestions to consider by the group; of course they don't necessarily have to be adopted, and of course they are not all inclusive. I'm sure there are many other good suggestions, the beauty of our collaboration over the Internet. 1) A simple thing...the font might be changed to allow more Cave references to a page. In addition, it might be helpful to pick out a color like blue to actually differentiate the actual name Cave, (i.e. John Cave ) from the given primary source. 2) The sources. This gets a little tricky. I think we should rely on primary sources when available, or at least explain secondary sources. In other words, we shouldn't include a lineage book, a Pilgrim book, a family history book, etc., where these books don't give their primary sources. We also shouldn't use say "Cavaliers and Pioneers" the popular listing of Virginia land patents, but rather list the actual Virginia land patent book, and then possibly say reprinted in...., as a way to access the record. It might also be helpful to put source information in a different font. Marriage bonds, deed, parish records, Bible records, will and estate records, lawsuits, and other written records are of course primary and should be referenced whenever possible, then noted where they are printed or reprinted in. A secondary source would be something like Milner Echol's "History of the Echols Family," wherein Milner states that his great grandfather John Echols married his great grandmother Mary Cave (and goes on to describe her as a tall redheaded woman). This is made more persuasive (and should be noted as such), by primary records (that Milner in 1850 would not have known about) such as John Echols taking out land with a John Cave, records showing John Echols's wife's name was Mary, and perhaps other undiscovered records. A reminder on the importation records. Just because someone patented land for the importation of an individual, or there is a record in England that someone was supposed to be sent to the colonies, does not actually mean that person came here and settled. A lot of people didn't actually make the trip, died on board, came and went back on the ship, or even were fraudulently claimed. That doesn't mean the importation records aren't important, just not to assume a John Cave was actually living in Virginia in 1635 say (although he could have been). Now it does appear a David Cave was imported, was here because he signed a petition, etc. He seems to have been of an age to have been the ancestor of most of the Virginians, and/or is he somehow related to John (brother of one, son of John of 1635?) I still like the idea previously posted of going chronologically up to the Revolution, though I'm certainly not wedded to it. Michael

Forwarding to the list in case someone knows anything about her. Be sure to reply to Pgettysb@aol.com as she is not a member of this list. Thanks Sue Ellen ----- Original Message ----- From: Pgettysb@aol.com To: CAVE-admin@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 9:34 PM Subject: (no subject) I am sorry to bother you. I am trying to find out information about an Amelia Cave. She died tragically years ago. She had a brother Bernard and a nephew called James. I just wanted to find out where in Maine she was buried.