This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/HY.2ADE/1652.1 Message Board Post: I did a quick check of a few Tulare records and the only thing I found at this time was the marriage of Carrie Van Mott to Charles P. Thorn, May 17, 1905. Found in book J, page 297 A copy of their marriage certificate may give the name of her parents and/or the names of the witnesses. Her father may have been one of the witnesses. I'm sorry I couldn't be more helpful.