It's been quiet here - thought I'd stir up a little ancestral dust... I'm trying to track down more about the John Smith who married Mrs. Elizabeth Fry. I think she is Elizabeth Starr who married Philip Fry. I found the info below posted by Derek on rootsweb and a post-it-note on a John Smith pedigree other than Derek's. I'm still trying to figure out which Philip Fry married Elizabeth Starr. Does anyone have the estate papers for John Smith? (I can go get them if not) Marriage bond - Mrs.Elizabeth Fry and John Smith. (Is this the same John Smith as below?) The bond date was 2 July 1816, witness William Ervin; Ligt Williams (I don't know what Ligt means) The post it note in quotes: "I have traced My GGgrandfather to this family. My GGgrandfathers name is Marcus Lafayette Smith. I found Him in court records as illigitimate child of John Smith. He is also mentioned in the estate records of John Smith Sr with John & other members of this family. Hope to hear from you." posted by esh@mstar2.net (email address no good now) Is it possible that this Elizabeth Smith, bound to Jacob Starr was an illegitimate child born to Elizabeth Starr and John Smith, Sr. prior to her marriage to Philip Fry in 1808? Court of Pleas & Quarter Sessions Lincoln County, North Carolina Pg 53: July 1810 -- Ordered that Elizabeth Smith about four years & six months old be bound unto Jacob Starr who is to give her one year schooling & $20.00 worth of suitable property when of age. Rootsweb - posted by Derek Hartshorn ID: I74 Given Name: John Surname: SMITH Birth: ABT 10 APR 1770 in Lincoln (Catawba) Co., North Carolina Death: 23 NOV 1847 in Catawba County, North Carolina Burial: St. John's Lutheran Ch. Cem., N. of Conover, NC Father: George Adam SMITH (SCHMIDT) b: ABT 1730 in prob. Pennsylvania Mother: Catarina Marriage 1 Catherine MAUSER b: ABT 1780 Married: ABT 1795 Children George ? SMITH b: ABT 1800 Elizabeth SMITH b: 1795 - married Elias Smyre Birth: 25 FEB 1796 in Lincoln Co., NC Death: 6 SEP 1843 Burial: Old Hass Cemetery, Catawba, NC Marriage 1 Elias Smyre b: 1 NOV 1791 in Lincoln Co., NC Married: 1 MAR 1815 in Lincoln Co., NC Mary Magdaline SMITH b: 1798 Catherine SMITH b: ABT 1800 in Lincoln (Catawba) Co., North Carolina David SMITH b: 21 JUN 1803 in Catawba County, North Carolina John SMITH b: 1809 Frederick A SMITH b: 3 JAN 1813 Lena SMITH b: ABT 1815 Annie SMITH b: 1818