Charles-- Lorena Shell Eaker's book, German-Speaking People West of the Catawba River..." p 333; Anne Williams McAllister's book, "Through Four Generations...Heinrich Weidner....", Vo. 1, p. 807 has data on Johannes Hanss Heinrich [Papst] Pope b. 1697 in Biedershausen, Rheinland-Pfalz, Germany....; then at <http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cunningsofscgen/JLPape.html> as of 19 Feb 2004 goes back further on this family. Ann K. Propst Brevard, NC -----Original Message----- From: Charles Lail [mailto:crlail41@charter.net] Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2005 10:38 AM To: CATAWBA-WEST-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [CATAWBA-WEST] Popes Alonzo Hollister Pope-b. 5 Jul 1885 Wilkes County NC-D. 19 Jan 1953-Buried Grace Chapel UMC, Caldwell County NC. s/o Margaret Pope b. ca 1866 and Thomas Pennell (Illeg.?) Margaret d/o John Pope-b. ca 1836-and Susan/Susannah Barnes Pope-b. 8/12/1835-d. 2/3/1916 John s/o Theobald Devault Pope and wife Catherine-T. D. Pope s/o Heinrich Pope/Pabst/Bobst who supplied the land for St. John's Luth Ch, Catawba County. Now if I can prove all this-Some of it I can't. This line of course from the Pabst/Bobst/Pope Line from Germany. Can anyone help verify the above? Some of it is educated speculation using census records, cemetery records, and common sense, all of which at times can be wrong. Does anyone have any corroborating evidence to the above? Thanks a bunch to everyone for your help in the past. Charles Lail Catawba County NC