Hi, Curtis-- You are nudging a "brick wall" of mine. I have a John Nivens or Nivins b. in SC who m. Ellen or Helen Propst b. after 1883 and they had 4 kids. This Propst daughter's parents were Robert Reuben Propst and Leatha Wilson who m. 18 Jan 1883 in Catawba Co., NC and had at least 11 children. Any help on this Propst family will be greatly appreciated. Ann Propst, Brevard, NC -----Original Message----- From: CMcda51153@aol.com [mailto:CMcda51153@aol.com] Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2003 8:11 PM To: CATAWBA-WEST-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [CATAWBA-WEST] McDaniel Seeking info on James McDaniel born 1852 in Cleveland County, SC. Married about 1867 or so Sarah Jane Nivens, born 1850 in Tennessee. James wound up in York County, SC where he died at age 35 on July 27, 1887. Any help appreciated. Curtis E. McDaniel