-----Original Message----- From: Ann Propst <annsid@citcom.net> Question-where was Mary Jane's and James Monroe's son, Blumy W. Miller in 1880? Is he the Blorney W. Miller, age 5, listed on page 80 in 1880 ... Are the spellings of Blumy and Blorney from transcriptions of the Censuses? From my work on the 1860 Webster Co, MO, census I would say it its often impossible to distinguish between lower-case "um" and "orn" - depending on the penmanship of the copier in those days. Mac Hayes Rosamond, CA