At 05:11 PM 3/7/2004, vrudasill@earthlink.net wrote: >This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > >FINAL CALL FOR Cleveland County HERITAGE BOOK ORDERS > > >The Cleveland County Heritage Book Committee has announced a final call >for book orders at pre-publication prices. Until April 30, 2004, the >committee will accept orders at $52.50 including tax. After April 30, >2004, the cost of the book will increase to $62.50 including tax. Order >now to save $10.00. If you want your book mailed directly to your home, >rather than picking it up from a designated place, you should include an >additional $7.00 for postage and handling. > >It has been learned that many county residents plan to purchase their >Heritage book when it comes out. However, the book committee wishes to >encourage all residents to order the book in advance. Not only will this >save you money, it will insure that everyone that wants a book will get >one. (Often the books sell-out immediately after publication!) > >The Cleveland County Heritage Book, Volume II will be a storehouse of >family heirloom pictures and nostalgic reading for everybody with interest >in our county. > >Order forms are still available at Broad River Genealogical Archives, >Cleveland County Memorial Library, Cleveland County Register of Deeds and >other various businesses. Or visit the Book Committee's website: >http://home.earthlink.net/~srapa/index.htm > >If you have questions, call Nancy Hughes at 704-481-0228 or Ned Cash at >704-484-9396. If you wish to order your book, mail your check or money >order to County Heritage Book at PO Box 263; Shelby, NC 28151-0263. > > > >==== NCBURKE Mailing List ==== >NCBURKE-L [Co., NC] Mailing List - Sharing information on Historic Burke >Co., NC >For further info, see http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncburke/ >Our thanks to RootsWeb.com for hosting this list and web page

Thanks to all who responded to this. I'm researching Jacob Starr (1755? - 1833) from Lincoln Co. I don't know what area he lived in. (I could probably figure it out from the deeds, but I'm not very familiar with the landscape in Lincoln Co.) I recently received information that he may be connected to Guilford County Starrs and their records were in the Brick Reformed Church there, so I thought perhaps I would find church records for Jacob in Lincoln. The census records for Jacob indicate that he had more than the 3 children listed in his will, sons John, Jacob, and Phillip and his wife was still living in the 1830 census, but I don't have his wife's name. The following is from another Starr researcher in Indiana - I have not proven Jacob's parents yet, but I suspect Johannes & Elizabeth (Yoakum) Starr, last found in New Hanover, PA. John Jacob Starr of Guilford Co, NC, and Casper Starr of Rowan & Surry Cos, NC, are proven brothers. Jacob Starr of Lincoln Co, NC, is much younger, and I feel he is a nephew of the other two. I am presently collecting material to write a book on our German Starrs. I wrote one in 1982 on the descendants of John Jacob Starr. This new book will include the descendants of John Jacob Starr, Casper Starr and an older brother, Johannes (John) Starr. On the Frys you have dug out of Lincoln Co, NC, - they are sons of Johann Nicholas Fry JR, who died 11 Jan 1784 in Lincoln County. Johann Nicholas Fry SR was on the 1738 ships passenger list of the Queen Elizabeth with Johannes Starr SR, that I mentioned earlier. Of the other Indiana Starrs you have found living around Philip Starr and his sons, many are descended of the Abraham Starr there. Abraham is a son of Jacob Starr of Bourbon Co, KY. Abraham followed Philip Starr to Lawrence Co, IN, and one report says he lived with Philip for a short time. The relationship has yet to be determined. Any assistance will be gratefully appreciated! Anita On Thu, 04 Mar 2004 15:24:20 -0700 Agnes <agnesec@cableone.net> writes: > Yes, there were such churches - mostly called "Reformed" but not > always, do > you have a name of some folks or a place in the county, many of us > have > records we can check for you. Germans tended to cluster or to go to > whatever > church was handy, like everyone else did. > Agnes C. > > > On 4/3/04 3:00 PM, "CATAWBA-WEST-D-request@rootsweb.com" > <CATAWBA-WEST-D-request@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > From: ladyfriendly@juno.com > > Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2004 22:24:08 -0500 > > To: CATAWBA-WEST-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: [CATAWBA-WEST] German church records > > > > Does anyone know if there were German churches and if there are > any early > > church records for Lincoln and/or Catawba counties? > > > > Thanks! > > Anita > > > > > ==== CATAWBA-WEST Mailing List ==== > ==== CATAWBA-WEST Mailing List ==== > Sharing info on the region West of the Catawba River, NC > For further info, see http://www.rootsweb.com/~nccatawb/ > Our thanks to RootsWeb for hosting this list and web page > > >

Anita, There is a "Diary of Johann Gottfried Arends, 1740-1807", transcribed by Jo White Linn. Arends was a pioneer Lutheran pastor in the Catawba Valley. The diary contains lots of early church records, and is indexed. You can order it from Jo White Linn, P. O. Box 1948, Salisbury, NC 28145-1948. When I bought my copy several years ago, the price was $25.00. Nancy

Yes, there were such churches - mostly called "Reformed" but not always, do you have a name of some folks or a place in the county, many of us have records we can check for you. Germans tended to cluster or to go to whatever church was handy, like everyone else did. Agnes C. On 4/3/04 3:00 PM, "CATAWBA-WEST-D-request@rootsweb.com" <CATAWBA-WEST-D-request@rootsweb.com> wrote: > From: ladyfriendly@juno.com > Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2004 22:24:08 -0500 > To: CATAWBA-WEST-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [CATAWBA-WEST] German church records > > Does anyone know if there were German churches and if there are any early > church records for Lincoln and/or Catawba counties? > > Thanks! > Anita >

On 4/3/04 3:00 PM, "CATAWBA-WEST-D-request@rootsweb.com" <CATAWBA-WEST-D-request@rootsweb.com> wrote: >

Does anyone know if there were German churches and if there are any early church records for Lincoln and/or Catawba counties? Thanks! Anita

If you are not familiar with the many wonderful titles the NC Archives has for sale, please visit their BOOK SALE page: http://www.ah.dcr.state.nc.us/sections/hp/sales/default.htm Please scan the prospectus very carefully. There are some very valuable books you can add to your library, very inexpensively. Among these, I strongly recommend: Guide to Private Manuscript Collections in the North Carolina State Archives describes private papers, microfilmed private papers, and account books received in the State Archives through June 1, 1979. Included are 1,640 collections of private papers; 186 collections of microfilmed private papers, diaries, and account books; and 480 original account books. The useful guide contains a name, place, and subject index. The Formation of the North Carolina Counties, 1663-1943 By David L. Corbitt ISBN 0-86526-032-X $15.00 NOW $7.50 There are many, many more worth picking up for a couple bucks each. --Derick

Dear folks, Is there a Lincoln County Heritage Book planned? I have a person who wants to contribute an article. Please let me know if it is still possible to include an article. Thanks, Robert Carpenter

The last I have is: Thomas Marino 3516 Brookfield Rd Hoover, AL 35226 PaseurBook@aol.com The book is $50.00 + $6.00 shipping. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Cloninger" <patcazc@abts.net> To: <CATAWBA-WEST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2004 7:22 AM Subject: [CATAWBA-WEST] Need e mail address for: > > I need the e-mail address for Thomas J. Marino, Author of "Pasour, Paysour, > Payseur, Paseur, Together... at Last" > > There is someone whom I believe can be helped by contacting Tom. > > Thanks in advance. > > Pat C. Cloninger > > "At Newton, NC in the snow." > > > ==== CATAWBA-WEST Mailing List ==== > ==== CATAWBA-WEST Mailing List ==== > Sharing info on the region West of the Catawba River, NC > For further info, see http://www.rootsweb.com/~nccatawb/ > Our thanks to RootsWeb for hosting this list and web page > >

I need the e-mail address for Thomas J. Marino, Author of "Pasour, Paysour, Payseur, Paseur, Together... at Last" There is someone whom I believe can be helped by contacting Tom. Thanks in advance. Pat C. Cloninger "At Newton, NC in the snow."

My ancestor, Nicholas PARCHMAN/PARCHMENT/PERCHMENT, was in Col Washington's militia around Winchester, VA in 1758. I have no other records for him before 1773 in PA. Family tradition says he was German, but some legends say Scots-Irish. I have been looking for his origins for 28 years. There is one record for an Edward Parchman receiving a Tennessee land grant for service in the North Carolina Continental Line. However, I have found NO other record for this person, and wonder if he is a fictitious person made up as part of the land fraud perpetrateed by powerful and wealthy NC politicians and businessmen (Blount, Davidson, Robertson, etc). I am looking for any records for a Parchman in North Carolina. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Gerry Parchman

In addition, I have dusted off the original St. John's page at the time of the fire: http://www.rootsweb.com/~nccatawb/stjohn.htm The book is mentioned at the bottom of the page. Until I hear otherwise, I assume that Pat Cloninger will continue to spearhead the book effort. A new page has been erected at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~nccatawb/stjohnbook.htm It should be noted that St. John's has its own web page. http://www.stjohnsconover.com/bic/intro.htm --Derick a friend of Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: <WyleneL@aol.com> To: <CATAWBA-WEST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 23, 2004 8:27 AM Subject: [CATAWBA-WEST] Re: CATAWBA-WEST-D Digest V04 #19 > I am interested in more information about the publication of Mark Smith book > mentioned below. > > Wylene Alston > (WyleneL@aol.com) > > In a message dated 2/23/2004 6:02:23 AM Central Standard Time, > CATAWBA-WEST-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > > > This Church is intending to reprint the work of Mark Smith within this > > year. I would suggest that you send a Letter to St. John's > > requesting a copy and that you be notified when the book is available. If > > there is sufficient interest they would me moved to publish quickly quickly. > > I Highly recommend this publication if you are interestd in the early > > families who moved into this area between 1750 and 1800

I am interested in more information about the publication of Mark Smith book mentioned below. Wylene Alston (WyleneL@aol.com) In a message dated 2/23/2004 6:02:23 AM Central Standard Time, CATAWBA-WEST-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > This Church is intending to reprint the work of Mark Smith within this > year. I would suggest that you send a Letter to St. John's > requesting a copy and that you be notified when the book is available. If > there is sufficient interest they would me moved to publish quickly quickly. > I Highly recommend this publication if you are interestd in the early > families who moved into this area between 1750 and 1800

On 23/2/04 5:01 AM, "CATAWBA-WEST-D-request@rootsweb.com" Charles Lail wrote: George Pope-b. ca 1805 d. 25 May 1880-s/o Henry Pope m. Fannie Deal b. ca 1808 . Who was Fannie's Father? William and Susannah Icerd Deal? If so, who was the parents of Peter Deal who m Elizabeth Traffenstatt, d/o of Christian Treffenstatt Sr.? Hello Charles --- I don't have any record of this Fanny having married at all, but that may be because I have not looked for it, however, this is the Elizabeth Teffenstadt who married Peter Deal. Fanny seems to have been out of favor with her father, or he had already settled something on her that was considered sufficient. Again, I have not carried my research beyond this point. All I can tell you about Peter is that he was probably the son of one of the Williams, but no one has yet come up with any viable source for that information. William seems to be the parent of William b about 1740 (married Suzanne Ikard), Jacob b about 1743 (m Margaret), George b about 1744, John b about 1746 (m Mary). and Peter born about 1750. These siblings of Peter are speculation, and not my original research. I would like to offer the thought that if this is the same Fanny, and she was born in 1808, then she was plenty old enough to have been married in 1828. I have this will: January Sessions 1828, Lincoln Co, NC: I Peter Deal being of sound and perfect health do this the 9th day of July in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and twenty seven make this my last will and testament in the following words, that is to say, 1st all my property shall remain in the sole possession of my wife Elizabeth Deal so long as she may live to dispose of as need may be to support upon, 2nd, my son Simon Deal shall winter one cow and have all her increase 3rd, I bequeath that after the death of my wife Elizabeth all the property shall be equally distributed among my heirs except Fanny Deal who shall have for her part five shillings. 4th Should the Legatees disagree in the division of the property each one may choose a man for that purpose which decision shall be final. In witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand and (seal) the day and year above written. Peter Deal (his mark) Witnesses Peter Hoke and Martin Ikerd. My note to myself: There must have been other heirs, need to search for the estate records. Agnes Cloninger

familysearch.com has the following info on Peter Deal and Fannie Deal. Hope this helps a little... Peter DEAL (AFN: 1FG2-VCD) Sex: M ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------- Event(s): Birth: Abt 1767 , , Pa Death: 1828 , Lincoln, Nc ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------- Parents: Father: Wilhelm DIEHL (AFN: 1FG2-KMH) Mother: <Unknown> (AFN: 1FG2-KNP) ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------- Marriage(s): Spouse: Elizabeth TRAVELSTADT (AFN: 1FG2-VDL) Marriage: Abt 1780 , Lincoln, Nc Submitter(s): GRACE LAWRENCE 1508 SPRINGHILL TERRACE DOTHAN AL Submission: AF95-108663 USA 36303 MR & MRS DAVID ALLEN ARNDT PO BOX 819 2629 C-1 US 70 EAST VALDESE NC Submission: AF95-109945 USA 28690 ***************************** Fannie Deal Female ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------- Event(s): Birth: 1781 , Lincoln, North Carolina ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------- Parents: Father: William Deal Mother: Susannah Icard **************************** Fanny Deal Female ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------- Event(s): Birth: About 1793 , Lincoln, North Carolina Christening: Death: 1842 Parents: Father: Jacob Deal Mother: Margaret Ikert On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 19:36:16 -0500 "Charles Lail" <crlail41@charter.net> writes: > George Pope-b. ca 1805 d. 25 May 1880-s/o Henry Pope m. Fannie Deal > b. ca 1808 . Who was Fannie's Father? William and Susannah Icerd > Deal? If so, who was the parents of Peter Deal who m Elizabeth > Traffenstatt, d/o of Christian Treffenstatt Sr.? > > Still searching > Charles Lail > Catawba County NC > > > ==== CATAWBA-WEST Mailing List ==== > > > >

George Pope-b. ca 1805 d. 25 May 1880-s/o Henry Pope m. Fannie Deal b. ca 1808 . Who was Fannie's Father? William and Susannah Icerd Deal? If so, who was the parents of Peter Deal who m Elizabeth Traffenstatt, d/o of Christian Treffenstatt Sr.? Still searching Charles Lail Catawba County NC

To Judy Brittain and all other interested parties: St. John's Llutheran Church-LCMS 2126 St. John's Church Road Conover, NC 28613 This Church is intending to reprint the work of Mark Smith within this year. I would suggest that you send a Letter to St. John's requesting a copy and that you be notified when the book is available. If there is sufficient interest they would me moved to publish quickly quickly. I Highly recommend this publication if you are interestd in the early families who moved into this area between 1750 and 1800. I am attempting to put together a publication covering all the early German Reformed and Lutheran Congregations that were in this area in those early years. I would be happy to have just a simple message from anyone who would be interested such information as I might compile concerning these Congregations. I have learned about Old Salem Llutheran Church in present Catawba County that even has graves of slaves in the Cemetery. There are many field stones with no names. If you know of the location of early cemeteries with or without names in the original Old Lincoln County I would welcome your information. This would help to direct me as to where I might find the locations of these early churches. Pat C. Cloninger Newton, North Carolina -----Original Message----- From: Harold & Judy Brittain [mailto:hjbrit@earthlink.net] Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2004 2:27 AM To: patcazc@abts.net Subject: Book on History of St. John's Lutheran Church Can you still order a book on the History of St. John's Lutheran Church and what is the price and who do I order from. Judy Brittain

A quick google search yielded the following references for Marcus L. Pope. Of course you may have already seen them. The first one has him in the 1910 census. Some of his descendants buried in Cherryville, Gaston Co....might look there for him. http://www.bonanzajellydog.com/gene/ps04/ps04_240.html http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cummingsofscgen/JLPape5.html - I can't resist doing these quick little searches... :-) Anita On Wed, 18 Feb 2004 15:57:24 -0500 "Derick Hartshorn" <derickh@charter.net> writes: > I have recently worked on the the family of Marcus Pope (~1835 - > after 1880) > and have been unable to find his place of burial. Can anyone help. > See: http://www.rootsweb.com/~nccatawb/family/MarcusPope-3d.pdf > > --Derick > > > > ==== CATAWBA-WEST Mailing List ==== > ==== CATAWBA-WEST Mailing List ==== > Sharing info on the region West of the Catawba River, NC > For further info, see http://www.rootsweb.com/~nccatawb/ > Our thanks to RootsWeb for hosting this list and web page > > >

I have recently worked on the the family of Marcus Pope (~1835 - after 1880) and have been unable to find his place of burial. Can anyone help. See: http://www.rootsweb.com/~nccatawb/family/MarcusPope-3d.pdf --Derick

An interesting Setzer marriage took me a long time to prove. George Naugle, born c1765 in PA or MD, and died in 1824 in Lincoln County, NC. I believe he was buried at Old St. Paul's or on his own land. George Naugle/Noggle/Nail/etc. married Catherine Setzer, born NC c1775 and died after 1850, while living in Chickasaw County, MS, with her daughter,Sarah (Naugle) Huffman. Catherine (Setzer) Naugle was the d/of Jacob Setzer, II, and Maria Elisabeth Hildebrand, and the granddaughter of Jacob Setzer I and Mary Boovey. Jacob Setzer II served in the Revolutionary War from Franklin County, Ga and moved back there in 1816. One of Catherine's brothers, Christopher Setzer, moved there in the 1820's. (Speculation): Catherine may have gone with her brother to join her parents. Question: Polly Naugle, the d/of George Naugle and Catherine (Setzer) Naugle, married a Setzer. Who? I have ordered the Setzer book, but it hasn't come yet. Anne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Derick Hartshorn" <derickh@charter.net> To: <CATAWBA-WEST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2004 10:08 AM Subject: [CATAWBA-WEST] Re: [NCLINCOLN] Re: Treffelstet/Setzer > In response to several queries, I have put the following together: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nccatawb/family/JacobSetzerJr-2d.pdf > > This is a 2-generation report on Jacob Setzer, Jr. (son of Jacob Jr. and > Mary Magdalene Bovey/Poovey) and Mariah Elizabeth Hildebrand. She may be > the sister of John (1755-1857). That's just a personal observation. > > Much of the credit goes to Wayne Lee Setzer and Lorena Eaker and many others > whom I have documented. > > --Derick > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <SetzerAncestry@aol.com> > To: <NCLINCOL-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 10:00 AM > Subject: [NCLINCOLN] Re: Treffelstet/Setzer > > > > My information shows that Jacob Setzer's mother was Mariah Elizabeth > > Hildebrand. There are a number of Setzers and Hildebrands on the Cherokee > Nation > > Rolls. I have that Jacob and Mariah had 9 children. > > Carol > > > > ----------------------------- > > Date: 4 Feb 2004 09:56:04 -0700 > > From: agnesec@cableone.net > > To: NCLINCOL-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: [NCLINCOLN] Re: Christian Treffenstatt, or Treffenstat or > Treffelstet > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/iVB.2ACI/2303.1 > > > > Message Board Post: > > > > ... I would be interested in knowing about Mary's descendants. There seems > to > > be some confusion about who they really are. She married Jacob Setzer son > of > > Jacob and Marie Elizabeth - do you have Marie Elizabeth's surname?... > > . > > > > > > ==== NCLINCOL Mailing List ==== > > ==== LINCOLN Co., NC Mailing List ==== > > Sharing information on Historic Lincoln Co., NC > > For further info, see www.rootsweb.com/~nclincol/nclincoln.htm > > Our thanks to RootsWeb for hosting this list and web page > > > > > > > > ==== CATAWBA-WEST Mailing List ==== > ==== CATAWBA-WEST Mailing List ==== > Sharing info on the region West of the Catawba River, NC > For further info, see http://www.rootsweb.com/~nccatawb/ > Our thanks to RootsWeb for hosting this list and web page > >