Hi- A long time back and I can't remember which RootsWeb list the query was made regarding the surname DEALSNYDER. In "Catawba Cousins," Vol. 10, No. 2, Sep 1995, p. 14 is the entry of Henry Miles Dielensnider, son of ?, born 6 Dec 1825 per Births & Baptisms, St. Peter's Lutheran Church Records. On p. 15 listed is Susanah Deal, d/o Simon Deal, born 11 May 1829 and baptized in the same year; also is Silas Deal, s/o William Deal, born 12 Jan 1830 and baptized the same year. On p. 18 is the entry of Jacob Deal, s/o Simon Deal, b. 9 Jun 1832; baptized 29 Jul 1832. Ann Propst, Brevard, NC

[Ann > Need verification of the parents of Catharine > Lail/Lael/Lagle/Lagel the mother of Sylvanus > Lail/Lael born 23 Feb 1852 in Montgomery, AL; > baptized on 14 Aug 1853 at St. Peter's Lutheran > Church, Catawba County,> NC. > Was she the d/o of Henry and Margaret of Mecklenburg > Co. b. c. 1835 who m. Milus Pope in 1866 in Catawba > Co., NC? > Another possibility might be Catherine Augustine > Lail b. 15 Jul 1838 (d/o of Elias Lail and Louisa > York) who m. in 1870 Morganton, Burke Co., > NC David Settlemire. Was this Catharine Lail > possibly a widow of a male Lail? Please steer me > in the right direction, thank you. Ann, Sylvanus is out of wedlock. Catherine is the dau of Henry Lagle b. 1784 or 1790 and Margaret Hedrick, chr. Feb 29,1834. Since we don't have a father I am guessing there is no bastardy bond. The Alabama thing is new. Where did you hear about this ? Also I believe Sylvanus was chr. Feb 28,1852 at St. Peters. That kind of clashes with a birth 5 days earlier in Alabama. Don Lail __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online by April 15th http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html

Derick, and Ann Propst: Thank you so much for all the info you sent on this family and especially your sources, some of which I have from my research through the years. Linda B. Hoyle (NC), Margie Duke (CA), Rella Reid (NC), Kim Gordon (GA) and Caren Detgen (FL) are all WHITE cousins who have been doing the same research and have swapped our info. Thanks to all of them. I have the Catawba Heritage book and Fanny Cline (who is related to everyone in Catawba and surrounding areas) is mentioned once in the Abernathay/Abernathey family section as being married to Henderson Pinkney White. She, of course, is related to all of them. A note to Ann Propst - Fanny and Henderson White are related to over 100 Propsts in my Family Tree. We could be "Cousins". I feel that Henderson White had to be from the areas of either Rutherford, Burke or Lincoln since he married Fanny from Lincoln and moved to Caldwell where his children were born and died. . In the 1860 Caldwell Co. census there is a William White living close by with family but I have not been able to find anything on him and feel he could be related to Henderson. Hope others who read these queries will come up with some leads. Norma Mahaney

Derrick, Norma- Here's what little I have and notice name reads Pinkney Henderson White as that's the way I found it is several sources, I will correct his name immediately in the form that you both have- Descendants of Pinkney Henderson White Generation No. 1 1. PINKNEY HENDERSON1 WHITE was born Bef. 1820, and died 24 June 1862 in the Civil War in Hickory, Catawba County, NC & buried in Caldwell County overlooking Lake Hickory in an unmarked grave1. He married FANNY CLINE Bef. 1857, daughter of JOHN CLINE and ELIZABETH HUFFMAN. She was born 6 Jul 1824 in Hickory Tavern (Log Hut), Lincoln County, NC2,3,4,5, and died 1 Nov 1914 in Catawba County, NC & buried in Old Houck's Chapel Cemetery--now Fairview Cemetery6,7,8,9. More About PINKNEY WHITE and FANNY CLINE: Marriage: Bef. 1857 Children of PINKNEY WHITE and FANNY CLINE are: i. KATHERINE2 WHITE, b. Abt. 185710. 2. ii. GEORGE W. WHITE, b. 10 Jun 1859, NC; d. 28 Jun 1947, Catawba County, NC & buried in Old Houck's Chapel or Fairview Cemetery. iii. PINKNEY WHITE, b. Bef. 1863. iv. GAMEWELL WHITE, b. Bef. 1863. v. DAVID WHITE, b. Bef. 1863. Generation No. 2 2. GEORGE W.2 WHITE (PINKNEY HENDERSON1) was born 10 Jun 1859 in NC11,12,13, and died 28 Jun 1947 in Catawba County, NC & buried in Old Houck's Chapel or Fairview Cemetery14. He married ADA A. HILDEBRAND 25 Apr 1897 in Catawba County, NC by S. E. Killian, J.P.15, daughter of PINKNEY HILDEBRAND and SARAH SHUFORD. She was born 10 Jul 1875 in NC16,17,18,19, and died 28 Feb 1927 in Catawba County, NC & buried in Old Houck's Chapel or Fairview Cemetery20. More About GEORGE WHITE and ADA HILDEBRAND: Marriage: 25 Apr 1897, Catawba County, NC by S. E. Killian, J.P.21 Children of GEORGE WHITE and ADA HILDEBRAND are: 3. i. EDITH AUGUSTA3 WHITE, b. 9 Apr 1898, NC; d. 1 Nov 1964, Catawba County, NC & buried in Fairview Cemetery. ii. GEORGE MONROE WHITE, b. 7 Feb 1900, NC22,23; d. 14 Dec 1967, Catawba County, NC & buried in Old Houck's Chapel/now Fairview Cemetery24. iii. INFANT DAU. OF GEORGE & ADA WHITE, b. 7 Feb 1900, NC25. Generation No. 3 3. EDITH AUGUSTA3 WHITE (GEORGE W.2, PINKNEY HENDERSON1) was born 9 Apr 1898 in NC25,26, and died 1 Nov 1964 in Catawba County, NC & buried in Fairview Cemetery26. She married FRED AUSTIN DEATON Bef. 1923. He was born 3 Nov 189126, and died 20 May 1975 in Catawba County, NC & buried in Fairview Cemetery26. More About FRED DEATON and EDITH WHITE: Marriage: Bef. 1923 Children of EDITH WHITE and FRED DEATON are: i. INFANT SON OF FRED & EDITH4 DEATON, b. Abt. 19 May 1923, Catawba County, NC27; d. 19 May 1923, Catawba County, NC & buried in Old Houck's Chapel/Fairview Cemetery, Hickory, NC27. ii. JAMES EDWARD DEATON, b. 21 Apr 1924, Catawba County, NC28; d. 13 Sep 1982, Catawba County, NC & buried in Fairview Cemetery28. Endnotes 1. Hoyle, Linda Barkley, Lincolnton, Lincoln County, NC; e-mail addr: lbarkley@charter.net, "Electronic," 7/17/00. 2. Cline, Cicero & Ballard, John McDowell, "Klein Family or Cline History, and Biography Records About the Descendants of Pioneer Sebastian Klein" (1915/, Vol. 1, p 65. 3. "1900 Catawba County, NC Census," Vol. 2, Millennium Ed., extracted & compiled by Jan L. Richardson, P.O. Box 43029-PMB 56, Las Vegas, NV 89116, 1999, p 323. 4. Hoyle, Linda Barkley, Lincolnton, Lincoln County, NC; e-mail addr: lbarkley@charter.net, "Electronic," 7/17/00. 5. "Catawba County Cemeteries," Vol. 4, The Catawba County Genealogical Society, P.O. Box 2406, Hickory, NC 28603, 1988, p 26. 6. Cline, Cicero & Ballard, John McDowell, "Klein Family or Cline History, and Biography Records About the Descendants of Pioneer Sebastian Klein" (1915/, Vol. 1, p 65. 7. Hoyle, Linda Barkley, Lincolnton, Lincoln County, NC; e-mail addr: lbarkley@charter.net, "Electronic," 7/17/00. 8. "Abstracts of Catawba County, N.C. Death Records, 1915" abstracted by Rebecca S. Hunder & James W. Miller, Jr. (Catawba County Genealogical Society), p 24. 9. "Catawba County Cemeteries," Vol. 4, The Catawba County Genealogical Society, P.O. Box 2406, Hickory, NC 28603, 1988, p 26. 10. "Catawba County, NC Marriages 1842-1900," Vol. K-Z, The Catawba County Genealogical Society, P.O. Box 2604, Hickory, NC 28603, p 294. 11. "Catawba County, NC Marriages 1842-1900," Vol. K-Z, The Catawba County Genealogical Society, P.O. Box 2604, Hickory, NC 28603, p 443. 12. "Catawba County Cemeteries," Vol. 4, The Catawba County Genealogical Society, P.O. Box 2406, Hickory, NC 28603, 1988, p 27. 13. "1900 Catawba County, NC Census," Vol. 2, Millennium Ed., extracted & compiled by Jan L. Richardson, P.O. Box 43029-PMB 56, Las Vegas, NV 89116, 1999, p 323. 14. "Catawba County Cemeteries," Vol. 4, The Catawba County Genealogical Society, P.O. Box 2406, Hickory, NC 28603, 1988, p 27. 15. "Catawba County, NC Marriages 1842-1900," Vol. K-Z, The Catawba County Genealogical Society, P.O. Box 2604, Hickory, NC 28603, p 443, Parents shown as Henderson and Fannie White; P. M. and Sallie Hildebrand. Witnesses were C. E. white, G. S. White and Z. H. Pierce. 16. "Catawba County, NC Marriages 1842-1900," Vol. K-Z, The Catawba County Genealogical Society, P.O. Box 2604, Hickory, NC 28603, p 443. 17. "Catawba County Cemeteries," Vol. 4, The Catawba County Genealogical Society, P.O. Box 2406, Hickory, NC 28603, 1988, p 27. 18. 1880 Census, Catawba County, NC," The Catawba County Genealogical Society, P.O. Box 2406, Hickory, NC 28603, 1993, p 279. 19. "1900 Catawba County, NC Census," Vol. 2, Millennium Ed., extracted & compiled by Jan L. Richardson, P.O. Box 43029-PMB 56, Las Vegas, NV 89116, 1999, p 323. 20. "Catawba County Cemeteries," Vol. 4, The Catawba County Genealogical Society, P.O. Box 2406, Hickory, NC 28603, 1988, p 27. 21. "Catawba County, NC Marriages 1842-1900," Vol. K-Z, The Catawba County Genealogical Society, P.O. Box 2604, Hickory, NC 28603, p 443, Parents shown as Henderson and Fannie White; P. M. and Sallie Hildebrand. Witnesses were C. E. White, G. S. White and Z. H. Pierce. 22. "Catawba County Cemeteries," Vol. 4, The Catawba County Genealogical Society, P.O. Box 2406, Hickory, NC 28603, 1988, p 27. 23. "1900 Catawba County, NC Census," Vol. 2, Millennium Ed., extracted & compiled by Jan L. Richardson, P.O. Box 43029-PMB 56, Las Vegas, NV 89116, 1999, p 323. 24. "Catawba County Cemeteries," Vol. 4, The Catawba County Genealogical Society, P.O. Box 2406, Hickory, NC 28603, 1988, p 27. 25. "1900 Catawba County, NC Census," Vol. 2, Millennium Ed., extracted & compiled by Jan L. Richardson, P.O. Box 43029-PMB 56, Las Vegas, NV 89116, 1999, p 323. 26. "Catawba County Cemeteries," Vol. 4, The Catawba County Genealogical Society, P.O. Box 2406, Hickory, NC 28603, 1988, p 41. 27. "Catawba County Cemeteries," Vol. 4, The Catawba County Genealogical Society, P.O. Box 2406, Hickory, NC 28603, 1988, p 26. 28. "Catawba County Cemeteries," Vol. 4, The Catawba County Genealogical Society, P.O. Box 2406, Hickory, NC 28603, 1988, p 41. Ann Propst, Brevard, NC -----Original Message----- From: Derick Hartshorn [mailto:DerickH@charter.net] Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2004 11:02 AM To: CATAWBA-WEST-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [CATAWBA-WEST] Re: Henderson Pinkney White/Fanny Cline Dear Norma, I have checked this family and discover that you have about as much information on the line of HP White as anyone. Ancestry showed that your Clines are from Catawba County. I have the entire Cline line (I was on the Cline Reunion Committee 2000-2002) and Fannie-4 is dau. of John Jr.-3, John Sr.-2, Sebastian-1. Not very often does my database cover Caldwell county families unless they moved there from Catawba. You and Kim Dunlap Gordon define the family as follows: She quotes you. 1. :Henderson Pinkney (H.P.) WHITE was born about 1820. He died of Chronic Pancreatic Condition on 24 Jun 1862 in Hickory, Catawba, North Carolina. Henderson and Fannie lived in, and helped run, the old Hickory Tavern. :Fannie CLINE (daughter of John CLINE and Elizabeth "Betsy" HUFFMAN) was born on 6 Jul 1824 in Lincoln (Catawba) County, North Carolina. She died in Hickory, Catawba, North Carolina. Henderson Pinkney (H.P.) WHITE and Fannie CLINE had the following children: +2 i. :Andrew Gamewell WHITE (born on 24 Oct 1851). 3 ii. :William Pinkney WHITE. 4 iii. :Philip David (David) WHITE. +5 iv. :George Washington WHITE (born about 1862). 6 v. :Katherine WHITE. I would copy the rest of what you have but I'm pressed for time. I can tell you one thing: Your White family is probably not the one that came from Chester Co., PA. That family settled in present Long Creek, Gaston Co. (formerly Tryon) and by-passed the Catawba Valley entirely. If I can identify anyone in my searches, I'll write back. Others may wish to help. --Derick At 04:40 PM 4/10/2004, you wrote: This is my first time posting to this WHITE group and I am hoping this gets through to interested and maybe helpful researchers/kin. 23 years ago my mom's cousin sent her a handwritten paper with a list of relatives with spouses and dates born and some living at the time, in NC. His research was libraries, cemeteries and talking to relatives. Since then, because old cousin and my Mom have long been gone, I took over the research and for 23 years I have been looking for any information on my gr. gr. grandfather, >HENDERSON PINKNEY WHITE b. abt 1820 in NC. Henderson Pinkney went by H.P. in the 1850 NC census, Henderson in the 1860 Caldwell Co., NC census, Henderson P. when he enlisted in the NC army in 1862 and on his wife's cem. stone is marked "Fanny Cline b. 1820 wife of P. H. White." There is an empty spot next to Fanny in the Old Houk Cem. - now called Fairfield (I believe) outside of Hickory, NC on Rte 321. CHILDREN OF HENDERSON AND FANNY CLINE WHITE Andrew Gamewell (aka Gamewell) b. 1851 + Sarah Emmaline Poovey William Pinkney (aka Pinkney) B. 1853 + Harriet Adeline Link Philip David (aka David) b. 1855 + Mary J. Yount Lydia Elizabeth b. 1857 + (1) Alfred Tucker & (2) William D. Martin George Washington b. 1859 + Ada Hildebran Possibly a Katherine b. abt. 1863. (Henderson d. July, 1852 and this female might have been born after his death. I have dates of the spouses of the above children as well as their children and spouses. What I desperately need is Henderson Whites parents, his siblings and where they were born and died. I have loads of info on WHITE, POOVEY, LINK, YOUNT, CLINE, BEIBER, HOOVER, KILLIAN, ABERNATHEY, BOST, ECKERT, WHITENER and willing to share. > >Norma Mahaney ==== CATAWBA-WEST Mailing List ====

Derrick, Norma- Here's what little I have and notice name reads Pinkney Henderson White as that's the way I found it is several sources, I will correct his name immediately in the form that you both have- Descendants of Pinkney Henderson White Generation No. 1 1. PINKNEY HENDERSON1 WHITE was born Bef. 1820, and died 24 June 1862 in the Civil War in Hickory, Catawba County, NC & buried in Caldwell County overlooking Lake Hickory in an unmarked grave1. He married FANNY CLINE Bef. 1857, daughter of JOHN CLINE and ELIZABETH HUFFMAN. She was born 6 Jul 1824 in Hickory Tavern (Log Hut), Lincoln County, NC2,3,4,5, and died 1 Nov 1914 in Catawba County, NC & buried in Old Houck's Chapel Cemetery--now Fairview Cemetery6,7,8,9. More About PINKNEY WHITE and FANNY CLINE: Marriage: Bef. 1857 Children of PINKNEY WHITE and FANNY CLINE are: i. KATHERINE2 WHITE, b. Abt. 185710. 2. ii. GEORGE W. WHITE, b. 10 Jun 1859, NC; d. 28 Jun 1947, Catawba County, NC & buried in Old Houck's Chapel or Fairview Cemetery. iii. PINKNEY WHITE, b. Bef. 1863. iv. GAMEWELL WHITE, b. Bef. 1863. v. DAVID WHITE, b. Bef. 1863. Generation No. 2 2. GEORGE W.2 WHITE (PINKNEY HENDERSON1) was born 10 Jun 1859 in NC11,12,13, and died 28 Jun 1947 in Catawba County, NC & buried in Old Houck's Chapel or Fairview Cemetery14. He married ADA A. HILDEBRAND 25 Apr 1897 in Catawba County, NC by S. E. Killian, J.P.15, daughter of PINKNEY HILDEBRAND and SARAH SHUFORD. She was born 10 Jul 1875 in NC16,17,18,19, and died 28 Feb 1927 in Catawba County, NC & buried in Old Houck's Chapel or Fairview Cemetery20. More About GEORGE WHITE and ADA HILDEBRAND: Marriage: 25 Apr 1897, Catawba County, NC by S. E. Killian, J.P.21 Children of GEORGE WHITE and ADA HILDEBRAND are: 3. i. EDITH AUGUSTA3 WHITE, b. 9 Apr 1898, NC; d. 1 Nov 1964, Catawba County, NC & buried in Fairview Cemetery. ii. GEORGE MONROE WHITE, b. 7 Feb 1900, NC22,23; d. 14 Dec 1967, Catawba County, NC & buried in Old Houck's Chapel/now Fairview Cemetery24. iii. INFANT DAU. OF GEORGE & ADA WHITE, b. 7 Feb 1900, NC25. Generation No. 3 3. EDITH AUGUSTA3 WHITE (GEORGE W.2, PINKNEY HENDERSON1) was born 9 Apr 1898 in NC25,26, and died 1 Nov 1964 in Catawba County, NC & buried in Fairview Cemetery26. She married FRED AUSTIN DEATON Bef. 1923. He was born 3 Nov 189126, and died 20 May 1975 in Catawba County, NC & buried in Fairview Cemetery26. More About FRED DEATON and EDITH WHITE: Marriage: Bef. 1923 Children of EDITH WHITE and FRED DEATON are: i. INFANT SON OF FRED & EDITH4 DEATON, b. Abt. 19 May 1923, Catawba County, NC27; d. 19 May 1923, Catawba County, NC & buried in Old Houck's Chapel/Fairview Cemetery, Hickory, NC27. ii. JAMES EDWARD DEATON, b. 21 Apr 1924, Catawba County, NC28; d. 13 Sep 1982, Catawba County, NC & buried in Fairview Cemetery28. Endnotes 1. Hoyle, Linda Barkley, Lincolnton, Lincoln County, NC; e-mail addr: lbarkley@charter.net, "Electronic," 7/17/00. 2. Cline, Cicero & Ballard, John McDowell, "Klein Family or Cline History, and Biography Records About the Descendants of Pioneer Sebastian Klein" (1915/, Vol. 1, p 65. 3. "1900 Catawba County, NC Census," Vol. 2, Millennium Ed., extracted & compiled by Jan L. Richardson, P.O. Box 43029-PMB 56, Las Vegas, NV 89116, 1999, p 323. 4. Hoyle, Linda Barkley, Lincolnton, Lincoln County, NC; e-mail addr: lbarkley@charter.net, "Electronic," 7/17/00. 5. "Catawba County Cemeteries," Vol. 4, The Catawba County Genealogical Society, P.O. Box 2406, Hickory, NC 28603, 1988, p 26. 6. Cline, Cicero & Ballard, John McDowell, "Klein Family or Cline History, and Biography Records About the Descendants of Pioneer Sebastian Klein" (1915/, Vol. 1, p 65. 7. Hoyle, Linda Barkley, Lincolnton, Lincoln County, NC; e-mail addr: lbarkley@charter.net, "Electronic," 7/17/00. 8. "Abstracts of Catawba County, N.C. Death Records, 1915" abstracted by Rebecca S. Hunder & James W. Miller, Jr. (Catawba County Genealogical Society), p 24. 9. "Catawba County Cemeteries," Vol. 4, The Catawba County Genealogical Society, P.O. Box 2406, Hickory, NC 28603, 1988, p 26. 10. "Catawba County, NC Marriages 1842-1900," Vol. K-Z, The Catawba County Genealogical Society, P.O. Box 2604, Hickory, NC 28603, p 294. 11. "Catawba County, NC Marriages 1842-1900," Vol. K-Z, The Catawba County Genealogical Society, P.O. Box 2604, Hickory, NC 28603, p 443. 12. "Catawba County Cemeteries," Vol. 4, The Catawba County Genealogical Society, P.O. Box 2406, Hickory, NC 28603, 1988, p 27. 13. "1900 Catawba County, NC Census," Vol. 2, Millennium Ed., extracted & compiled by Jan L. Richardson, P.O. Box 43029-PMB 56, Las Vegas, NV 89116, 1999, p 323. 14. "Catawba County Cemeteries," Vol. 4, The Catawba County Genealogical Society, P.O. Box 2406, Hickory, NC 28603, 1988, p 27. 15. "Catawba County, NC Marriages 1842-1900," Vol. K-Z, The Catawba County Genealogical Society, P.O. Box 2604, Hickory, NC 28603, p 443, Parents shown as Henderson and Fannie White; P. M. and Sallie Hildebrand. Witnesses were C. E. white, G. S. White and Z. H. Pierce. 16. "Catawba County, NC Marriages 1842-1900," Vol. K-Z, The Catawba County Genealogical Society, P.O. Box 2604, Hickory, NC 28603, p 443. 17. "Catawba County Cemeteries," Vol. 4, The Catawba County Genealogical Society, P.O. Box 2406, Hickory, NC 28603, 1988, p 27. 18. 1880 Census, Catawba County, NC," The Catawba County Genealogical Society, P.O. Box 2406, Hickory, NC 28603, 1993, p 279. 19. "1900 Catawba County, NC Census," Vol. 2, Millennium Ed., extracted & compiled by Jan L. Richardson, P.O. Box 43029-PMB 56, Las Vegas, NV 89116, 1999, p 323. 20. "Catawba County Cemeteries," Vol. 4, The Catawba County Genealogical Society, P.O. Box 2406, Hickory, NC 28603, 1988, p 27. 21. "Catawba County, NC Marriages 1842-1900," Vol. K-Z, The Catawba County Genealogical Society, P.O. Box 2604, Hickory, NC 28603, p 443, Parents shown as Henderson and Fannie White; P. M. and Sallie Hildebrand. Witnesses were C. E. White, G. S. White and Z. H. Pierce. 22. "Catawba County Cemeteries," Vol. 4, The Catawba County Genealogical Society, P.O. Box 2406, Hickory, NC 28603, 1988, p 27. 23. "1900 Catawba County, NC Census," Vol. 2, Millennium Ed., extracted & compiled by Jan L. Richardson, P.O. Box 43029-PMB 56, Las Vegas, NV 89116, 1999, p 323. 24. "Catawba County Cemeteries," Vol. 4, The Catawba County Genealogical Society, P.O. Box 2406, Hickory, NC 28603, 1988, p 27. 25. "1900 Catawba County, NC Census," Vol. 2, Millennium Ed., extracted & compiled by Jan L. Richardson, P.O. Box 43029-PMB 56, Las Vegas, NV 89116, 1999, p 323. 26. "Catawba County Cemeteries," Vol. 4, The Catawba County Genealogical Society, P.O. Box 2406, Hickory, NC 28603, 1988, p 41. 27. "Catawba County Cemeteries," Vol. 4, The Catawba County Genealogical Society, P.O. Box 2406, Hickory, NC 28603, 1988, p 26. 28. "Catawba County Cemeteries," Vol. 4, The Catawba County Genealogical Society, P.O. Box 2406, Hickory, NC 28603, 1988, p 41. Ann Propst, Brevard, NC -----Original Message----- From: Derick Hartshorn [mailto:DerickH@charter.net] Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2004 11:02 AM To: CATAWBA-WEST-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [CATAWBA-WEST] Re: Henderson Pinkney White/Fanny Cline Dear Norma, I have checked this family and discover that you have about as much information on the line of HP White as anyone. Ancestry showed that your Clines are from Catawba County. I have the entire Cline line (I was on the Cline Reunion Committee 2000-2002) and Fannie-4 is dau. of John Jr.-3, John Sr.-2, Sebastian-1. Not very often does my database cover Caldwell county families unless they moved there from Catawba. You and Kim Dunlap Gordon define the family as follows: She quotes you. 1. :Henderson Pinkney (H.P.) WHITE was born about 1820. He died of Chronic Pancreatic Condition on 24 Jun 1862 in Hickory, Catawba, North Carolina. Henderson and Fannie lived in, and helped run, the old Hickory Tavern. :Fannie CLINE (daughter of John CLINE and Elizabeth "Betsy" HUFFMAN) was born on 6 Jul 1824 in Lincoln (Catawba) County, North Carolina. She died in Hickory, Catawba, North Carolina. Henderson Pinkney (H.P.) WHITE and Fannie CLINE had the following children: +2 i. :Andrew Gamewell WHITE (born on 24 Oct 1851). 3 ii. :William Pinkney WHITE. 4 iii. :Philip David (David) WHITE. +5 iv. :George Washington WHITE (born about 1862). 6 v. :Katherine WHITE. I would copy the rest of what you have but I'm pressed for time. I can tell you one thing: Your White family is probably not the one that came from Chester Co., PA. That family settled in present Long Creek, Gaston Co. (formerly Tryon) and by-passed the Catawba Valley entirely. If I can identify anyone in my searches, I'll write back. Others may wish to help. --Derick At 04:40 PM 4/10/2004, you wrote: This is my first time posting to this WHITE group and I am hoping this gets through to interested and maybe helpful researchers/kin. 23 years ago my mom's cousin sent her a handwritten paper with a list of relatives with spouses and dates born and some living at the time, in NC. His research was libraries, cemeteries and talking to relatives. Since then, because old cousin and my Mom have long been gone, I took over the research and for 23 years I have been looking for any information on my gr. gr. grandfather, >HENDERSON PINKNEY WHITE b. abt 1820 in NC. Henderson Pinkney went by H.P. in the 1850 NC census, Henderson in the 1860 Caldwell Co., NC census, Henderson P. when he enlisted in the NC army in 1862 and on his wife's cem. stone is marked "Fanny Cline b. 1820 wife of P. H. White." There is an empty spot next to Fanny in the Old Houk Cem. - now called Fairfield (I believe) outside of Hickory, NC on Rte 321. CHILDREN OF HENDERSON AND FANNY CLINE WHITE Andrew Gamewell (aka Gamewell) b. 1851 + Sarah Emmaline Poovey William Pinkney (aka Pinkney) B. 1853 + Harriet Adeline Link Philip David (aka David) b. 1855 + Mary J. Yount Lydia Elizabeth b. 1857 + (1) Alfred Tucker & (2) William D. Martin George Washington b. 1859 + Ada Hildebran Possibly a Katherine b. abt. 1863. (Henderson d. July, 1852 and this female might have been born after his death. I have dates of the spouses of the above children as well as their children and spouses. What I desperately need is Henderson Whites parents, his siblings and where they were born and died. I have loads of info on WHITE, POOVEY, LINK, YOUNT, CLINE, BEIBER, HOOVER, KILLIAN, ABERNATHEY, BOST, ECKERT, WHITENER and willing to share. > >Norma Mahaney ==== CATAWBA-WEST Mailing List ====

Hi Everyone, Seen this on my Military Brief Newsletter. I may be the last to find this out but incase I wasn't I wanted all to know about it. Sorry if you get it in more then one rootsweb list :) Have fun. Jean Buried Veterans Records Now On Web VA has made it easier and faster for the public to get answers about family history, old war buddies or famous war heroes. The agency put on the Web 3.2 million records for veterans buried at 120 national cemeteries since the Civil War. The VA's Nationwide Gravesite Locator, at http://www.cem.va.gov, also has records for some state veterans cemeteries and burials in Arlington National Cemetery since 1999. Joe Nosari, VA's deputy chief information officer for Memorial Affairs, said the records used to be on paper and microfilm. Private companies have put some of the information online and charged for it, but the VA information is free, he said. Naporlee, of Spokane, Wash., also learned her grandfather served with the Army's 161 DB unit, enlisting June 24, 1918. He was honorably discharged December 17, 1918. The VA's gravesite navigator includes names, dates of birth and death, military service dates, service branch and rank if known, cemetery information and grave location in the cemetery. The VA will withhold some information, such as next of kin, for privacy purposes. The site will be updated daily. Annually, about 80,000 veterans are buried at national cemeteries. The VA also hopes to add records for veterans whose families requested grave markers from the VA. Those markers may go to private cemeteries or cemeteries overseas.

ear Norma, I have checked this family and discover that you have about as much information on the line of HP White as anyone. Ancestry showed that your Clines are from Catawba County. I have the entire Cline line (I was on the Cline Reunion Committee 2000-2002) and Fannie-4 is dau. of John Jr.-3, John Sr.-2, Sebastian-1. Not very often does my database cover Caldwell county families unless they moved there from Catawba. You and Kim Dunlap Gordon define the family as follows: She quotes you. 1. :Henderson Pinkney (H.P.) WHITE was born about 1820. He died of Chronic Pancreatic Condition on 24 Jun 1862 in Hickory, Catawba, North Carolina. Henderson and Fannie lived in, and helped run, the old Hickory Tavern. :Fannie CLINE (daughter of John CLINE and Elizabeth "Betsy" HUFFMAN) was born on 6 Jul 1824 in Lincoln (Catawba) County, North Carolina. She died in Hickory, Catawba, North Carolina. Henderson Pinkney (H.P.) WHITE and Fannie CLINE had the following children: +2 i. :Andrew Gamewell WHITE (born on 24 Oct 1851). 3 ii. :William Pinkney WHITE. 4 iii. :Philip David (David) WHITE. +5 iv. :George Washington WHITE (born about 1862). 6 v. :Katherine WHITE. I would copy the rest of what you have but I'm pressed for time. I can tell you one thing: Your White family is probably not the one that came from Chester Co., PA. That family settled in present Long Creek, Gaston Co. (formerly Tryon) and by-passed the Catawba Valley entirely. If I can identify anyone in my searches, I'll write back. Others may wish to help. --Derick At 04:40 PM 4/10/2004, you wrote: >This is my first time posting to this WHITE group and I am hoping this gets >through to interested and maybe helpful researchers/kin. > >23 years ago my mom's cousin sent her a handwritten paper with a list of >relatives with spouses and dates born and some living at the time, in >NC. His >research was libraries, cemeteries and talking to relatives. Since then, >because >old cousin and my Mom have long been gone, I took over the research and for >23 years I have been looking for any information on my gr. gr. grandfather, >HENDERSON PINKNEY WHITE b. abt 1820 in NC. > >Henderson Pinkney went by H.P. in the 1850 NC census, Henderson in the 1860 >Caldwell Co., NC census, Henderson P. when he enlisted in the NC army in 1862 >and on his wife's cem. stone is marked "Fanny Cline b. 1820 wife of P. H. >White." There is an empty spot next to Fanny in the Old Houk Cem. - now >called >Fairfield (I believe) outside of Hickory, NC on Rte 321. > >CHILDREN OF HENDERSON AND FANNY CLINE WHITE >Andrew Gamewell (aka Gamewell) b. 1851 + Sarah Emmaline Poovey >William Pinkney (aka Pinkney) B. 1853 + Harriet Adeline Link >Philip David (aka David) b. 1855 + Mary J. Yount >Lydia Elizabeth b. 1857 + (1) Alfred Tucker & (2) William D. Martin >George Washington b. 1859 + Ada Hildebran >Possibly a Katherine b. abt. 1863. (Henderson d. July, 1852 and this female >might have been born after his death. > >I have dates of the spouses of the above children as well as their children >and spouses. >What I desperately need is Henderson Whites parents, his siblings and where >they were born and died. > >I have loads of info on WHITE, POOVEY, LINK, YOUNT, CLINE, BEIBER, HOOVER, >kILLIAN, ABERNATHEY, BOST, ECKERT, WHITENER and willing to share. > >Norma Mahaney

Hi, Need verification of the parents of Catharine Lail/Lael/Lagle/Lagel the mother of Sylvanus Lail/Lael born 23 Feb 1852 in Montgomery, AL; baptized on 14 Aug 1853 at St. Peter's Lutheran Church, Catawba County, NC. Was she the d/o of Henry and Margaret of Mecklenburg Co. b. c. 1835 who m. Milus Pope in 1866 in Catawba Co., NC? Another possibility might be Catherine Augustine Lail b. 15 Jul 1838 (d/o of Elias Lail and Louisa York) who m. in 1870 Morganton, Burke Co., NC David Settlemire. Was this Catharine Lail possibly a widow of a male Lail? Please steer me in the right direction, thank you. Ann Propst, Brevard, NC

Dear Fellow researchers: I'm still searching for grandmothers who married in the Lincoln Co. area 1760s to 1815. I feel that I have turned over every leaf, twig and stone, but still their maiden (and some baptismal) names elude me. If you should have probate records of your family that contain any documents on any of the following, please let me know. It might be the clue I'm looking for. I've begun "putting my house in order' and making an effort to organize all of my unpublished 57 year collection of materials and tie up even more loose ends (but that may never happen). I'm making an effort to preserve these records so that they will be available to the public in the future. If you can help me find these grandmothers, I would be ever so grateful! CREUTZ/KRITES/GRITES/CRITZ/CRITES and any other spelling of this name? Those who signed in German signed CREUTZ both in NC and MO Davault (often written as David) Critz shows up in Lincoln Co. NC with wife Sophia and purchased land on Killian's Creek 1763 and sells all of his land in Lincoln Co 1800-1802 and is in MO with his family on the 1803 census of the Louisiana Purchase. He wills to his six living children; The eldest son Peter whose wife was Mary on all records in MO documents but many claim he is the husband of the missing Margaret Fulbright named in William Fulbright's will.; Abraham who went to MO ca 1810 with several children and had more in MO, most of which went into Pope Co., AR; David: but have been unable to find this man any where but could be the one mentioned still at home in MO Land Claims of 1803. No indication found that he ever married or had a family. Barbara wife of Daniel Bollinger, Margaret wife of Peter Ground, Catherine widow of Jacob Slinkard, all left NC and in MO by 1803 He appears to have had a son John who is deceased by 1805 who also had one child in MO Peter Creutz (he signed his name in German) who appears to have been either a newlywed or married soon after coming to NC. (Appears to be brother of Davault Critz ) He sold his land in NC 1815 and the entire clan went to MO with him, or at least those still in NC. He too had several children, but left not one document with a spouse's name or a list of children. The latter having been determined by a process of elimination. However something peculiar going on in this family. Grandchildren's names appear with the following given names: several Conrads, William Henderson, James Anderson, Jacob Henderson, James Henderson Crites, etc all carried on down. No indication on how these names wandered in unless after some grandfather way back when! Peter Critz, Jr. appears to have a large family in NC & MO (and may be the one who fathered William Goodson who later changed his name to William Critz (remained in NC and married 1821 to Barbara Dellinger). Daniel b. before 1774 m. Barbara Kinder (LCM), no date but sometime in early 1790s. His widow was "Maria" and this may be a second wife rather than "Maria Barbara" Kinder. A quit claim deed in MO provides a fulll list of his children. Jacob (my line) b. ca 1770 m. mid to late 1790s in NC and went to MO ca 1810 He was widowed before 1819 and married Catherine Settlemire ca 1819 in MO, widow of Adam. He later is thought to be the one who m. 1825 in Madison Co., MO to Katherine Dellinger, widow of Phillip. A complete list of his children was made when son Peter died without issue 1833 Other sons could be Ephriam, Phillip, Peter, Jr., Henry and John Critz who m. 19 Mar 1799 Catharina Lorance, LCMB Some daughters of this family on LCMB Elizabeth Crites m. 20 Nov 1804 Peter Kinder who died in Mo 1813 Fanny Crites m.14 April 1813 Turner Duncan and was in MO 1830-40 census Catharine CRATZ m. 16 Aug 1810 Samuel Limming (Not sure this was a Crites or of the Valentine CRATZ family. Even the tiniest hit will be appreciated. Thanks Lorena

Hi, all- My husband's aunt, Anna Geneva Propst Hass Setzer went to our Heavenly Father this morning, 7 April 2004, in Hickory, Catawba County, NC. "Aunt Geneva" was born 28 November 1918 in Catawba County, NC, the d/o Carroll Milton Propst and Lizzie Eugenia Killian. She m. (1) Dewey Kerney Hass in 1940; m. (2) Donald Frank Setzer in 1964 who survives her. In addition, family who survive are her son, Stephen Hass, his children and grandchildren, step-children, Diane Setzer Waters, Ricky D. Setzer, D. Wayne Setzer and their children; also, are her brothers, Adrian, Sr., Melvin, Paul, and Norman Propst. "Aunt Geneva" was one of the most wonderful loving, giving woman we were blessed to know and love. She will be deeply missed. Ann and Sid Propst, Brevard, NC

> I hope this is your idea of what genealogy is ! It says it well ! > > Hi all, > How perfectly the following expresses my feelings (and yours?) about > collecting the stories of our families who have gone on before us. > > William Glendinning > Northern Ireland > The Story Tellers.... > > We are the chosen. My feelings are that in each family there is one who seems > called to find the ancestors. To put flesh on their bones and make them live > again, to tell the family story and to feel that somehow they know and > approve. > > To me, doing genealogy is not a cold gathering of facts but, instead, > breathing life into all who have gone before. We are the story tellers of the tribe; > all tribes have one. We have been called as if it were in our genes. Those who > have gone before cry out to us: Tell our story, and so we do. > > In finding them, we somehow find ourselves. How many graves have I stood > before now and cried? I have lost count. How many times have I told the ancestors > you have a wonderful family and you would be proud of us? How many times have > I walked up to a grave and felt somehow there was love there for me? I cannot > say. > > It goes beyond just documenting facts. It goes to who am I and why do I do > the things I do? It goes to seeing a cemetery about to be lost forever to weeds > and indifference and saying I cannot let this happen. The bones here are bones > of my bone and flesh of my flesh. It goes to doing something about it. It > goes to pride in what our ancestors were able to accomplish and how they > contributed to what we are today. It goes to respecting their hardships and losses, > and never giving in or giving up. Their resoluteness to go on and build a life > for their family. > It goes to deep pride that they fought to make and keep us a Nation. It goes > to a deep and immense understanidng that they were doing it for us. That we > might be born who we are and that we might remember them, and so we do. > > With love and caring and scribing each fact of their existence, because we > are them and they are us. So, as a scribe I am called, I tell the story of my > family. It is up to that one called in the next generation to answer the call > and take their place in the long line of family storytellers. > > That is why I do my family genealogy, and that is what calls those yound ang > old to step up and put flesh on the bones. Author Unknown > > > > > > Outgoing mail from this location is verified virus-free: > McAfee ViruScan 2004 (8.0), Data file: 4.0.4346, dated 3/31/2004 > > > ==== GRANNYS-NA-PANTRY Mailing List ==== > Welcome to GRANNYS-NA-PANTRY-L, a place where all colors of the Rainbow are welcomed. A safe place without discrimanshion:You may wont to check with Ancestry.com/ or www.rootsweb.com/ for more research. Thank you for subscribing to our list! > >

I am trying to find a photo of Orpha Elizabeth (Lizzie) Shook,b. 10 Sep 1856-d. 14 Jun 1945-d/o David and Matilda Elizabeth Kanipe Shook-m. 5 Sep 1876 William J. Dellinger b. 27 Mar 1856 d. 18 Mar 1839, all in Catawba County. I have a picture of William J.. He is the son of George Monroe Dellinger of Catawba County. Any help towards this goal is greatly appreciated. Charles Lail Catawba County

Dear Hoke Cousins, This is a clarification to the previous post calling for papers for the Hoke book. >Plese understand this is not a reprint of the original; it is a volume of >updates, corrections, and additional new material. Parts of the original >book will not be reprinted in this text; however, they will be connected >to this text through references to what has been left out or where we are >adding new material. The first chapter of the book about the immigrant >is, indeed, being done in its entire format with all new material added in >the appropriate places. > >I simply DO WISH to clarify that this Vol II is NOT a TOTAL REPRINT with >updates. > > > Jean A. Berlekamp or Miriam K. Fankhauser > > 6812 No. C. R. 15 @ > > Green Springs, OH 44836 mirianda@friendlynet.com > > Furthermore, I can answer any of your questions by phone at (419) 992-4534. > > We hope to reach as many of you as possible and are, therefore, using > snail > > mail as well as interact access. > > Jean A. Berlekamp

Plese understand this is not a reprint of the original; it is a volume of updates, corrections, and additional new material. Parts of the original book will not be reprinted in this text; however, they will be connected to this text through references to what has been left out or where we are adding new material. The first chapter of the book about the immigrant is, indeed, being done in its entire format with all new material added in the appropriate places. I simply DO WISH to clarify that this Vol II is NOT a TOTAL REPRINT with updates. ----- Original Message ----- From: Derick Hartshorn Sent: 3/27/2004 1:25:33 PM To: NCBurke-L@rootsweb.com;NCLincol-L@rootsweb.com;Catawba-West-L@rootsweb.com Cc: mirianda@friendlynet.com Subject: NEW HOKE BOOK-call for papers > > The book which has been the best (and only) reference on the HOKE family is > to be reprinted. > Solicitation for material has been made by the author. If you have anything > relating to the HOKE family please read on. > > --Derick S. Hartshorn > > ------------------------------------------------- > > > Dear Cousin Hoke, > > The time has come for which I am sure many of you have impatiently long > awaited. It has been 23 years since the genealogy of the Johann Jacob Hoke > family I... Hoke, bequeath was printed. I hope that all of you who either > have purchased or have had access to a copy of the original have enjoyed > your journey through our history. Finally, we have decided to publish > Volume II with corrections, updated materials, and additions to the > original volume. > > Hope L (Hoke) McConnell, who was instrumental in helping to collect > material for the original book, is now deceased, as are many of the others > who helped us. Therefore, I must depend on any and all of you who care to > contribute material to help me with this volume. Some of you are my close > relatives, some I have met in person, and some I have only spoken to by > phone, while others of you have been only readers of my work. However, I > implore all of you to help make this work as complete a record as is > humanly possible. > > As you may now know, many corrections and additions can be made, and much > new material can be added to this Hoke family history. Perhaps you have > discovered errors; have more pictures, stories, or additions; can add all > new family lines; or even place some of the fragmented families from Part > lI in the original text into their rightful families in Part I. We really > do want to make this volume as accurate and as complete as possible, even > though we know a genealogy is obsolete by the time it is printed because > change comes every second of time---this is the history of a family. > > I do not plan any further work on this family after this coming volume, but > I will continue to collect your material if you wish to send it. However, I > leave any subsequent publication in the capable hands of a future generation. > > We are looking at a one-year time schedule. Therefore, we need you to > return your contributions to us by May 30, 2004, since most &the text is to > be prepared this summer. Please direct your mailing to one of the following > addresses: > Jean A. Berlekamp or Miriam K. Fanldaauser > 6812 No. C. R. 15 @ > Green Springs, OH 44836 mirianda@friendlynet.com > Furthermore, I can answer any of your questions by phone at (419) 992-4534. > We hope to reach as many of you as possible and are, therefore, using snail > mail as well as interact access. > > The format and style of this volume will follow much the same design of the > original book; the text will be completely indexed and will contain all > material that is sent by you to be published. However, if you send color > pictures, they will be rendered in black and white in the text because of > the exorbitant price for color pictures in publication. Please double check > and proof-read every name, date, and page of your submission. I will take > your work in any form you care to send it, but we can only reproduce what > you send. We cannot be responsible for incomplete information nor can we > guess at information that is not clearly presented. We will return all > pictures sent to us either with your book order or by special mailing after > the book is published. > > I look forward to hearing from each and every one of you. However, if you > personally do not care to help with the information concerning your family, > please ask someone else who might wish to do so. I really do not want to > omit any family who wishes to be a part of this history. > > We are selling the supplement by pre-publication orders only, and only one > printing will be run. The cost will be determined by how much material is > presented. At the present time we are able to estimate a book of 500-800 > pages, hard bound will run between $50 and $70. We do hope that you > understand it is very difficult to predict how much material might be sent > to us in the next few months; therefore, it is also hard to predict a final > price. > > Please give this letter your immediate attention. Furthermore, fill out the > attached order form and enclose it and your down payment to reserve your > copies of the book with the information you are submitting for your family. > No refunds will be given once the orders have been placed. Only in some > extenuating circumstance where we are unable to complete our end of the > contract to deliver a book will we refund preorder payments. We will notify > you of the balance due, not to exceed $30 as soon as we have a final price > so that you can make arrangements to send the balance due. This balance > will need to be sent before we can mail the completed volume to you. > > We are sincerely grateful for your contributions and your support in this > major endeavor. > > Gratefully, your Hoke cousin, > > Jean A. Berlekamp > > >

The book which has been the best (and only) reference on the HOKE family is to be reprinted. Solicitation for material has been made by the author. If you have anything relating to the HOKE family please read on. --Derick S. Hartshorn ------------------------------------------------- Dear Cousin Hoke, The time has come for which I am sure many of you have impatiently long awaited. It has been 23 years since the genealogy of the Johann Jacob Hoke family I... Hoke, bequeath was printed. I hope that all of you who either have purchased or have had access to a copy of the original have enjoyed your journey through our history. Finally, we have decided to publish Volume II with corrections, updated materials, and additions to the original volume. Hope L (Hoke) McConnell, who was instrumental in helping to collect material for the original book, is now deceased, as are many of the others who helped us. Therefore, I must depend on any and all of you who care to contribute material to help me with this volume. Some of you are my close relatives, some I have met in person, and some I have only spoken to by phone, while others of you have been only readers of my work. However, I implore all of you to help make this work as complete a record as is humanly possible. As you may now know, many corrections and additions can be made, and much new material can be added to this Hoke family history. Perhaps you have discovered errors; have more pictures, stories, or additions; can add all new family lines; or even place some of the fragmented families from Part lI in the original text into their rightful families in Part I. We really do want to make this volume as accurate and as complete as possible, even though we know a genealogy is obsolete by the time it is printed because change comes every second of time---this is the history of a family. I do not plan any further work on this family after this coming volume, but I will continue to collect your material if you wish to send it. However, I leave any subsequent publication in the capable hands of a future generation. We are looking at a one-year time schedule. Therefore, we need you to return your contributions to us by May 30, 2004, since most &the text is to be prepared this summer. Please direct your mailing to one of the following addresses: Jean A. Berlekamp or Miriam K. Fanldaauser 6812 No. C. R. 15 @ Green Springs, OH 44836 mirianda@friendlynet.com Furthermore, I can answer any of your questions by phone at (419) 992-4534. We hope to reach as many of you as possible and are, therefore, using snail mail as well as interact access. The format and style of this volume will follow much the same design of the original book; the text will be completely indexed and will contain all material that is sent by you to be published. However, if you send color pictures, they will be rendered in black and white in the text because of the exorbitant price for color pictures in publication. Please double check and proof-read every name, date, and page of your submission. I will take your work in any form you care to send it, but we can only reproduce what you send. We cannot be responsible for incomplete information nor can we guess at information that is not clearly presented. We will return all pictures sent to us either with your book order or by special mailing after the book is published. I look forward to hearing from each and every one of you. However, if you personally do not care to help with the information concerning your family, please ask someone else who might wish to do so. I really do not want to omit any family who wishes to be a part of this history. We are selling the supplement by pre-publication orders only, and only one printing will be run. The cost will be determined by how much material is presented. At the present time we are able to estimate a book of 500-800 pages, hard bound will run between $50 and $70. We do hope that you understand it is very difficult to predict how much material might be sent to us in the next few months; therefore, it is also hard to predict a final price. Please give this letter your immediate attention. Furthermore, fill out the attached order form and enclose it and your down payment to reserve your copies of the book with the information you are submitting for your family. No refunds will be given once the orders have been placed. Only in some extenuating circumstance where we are unable to complete our end of the contract to deliver a book will we refund preorder payments. We will notify you of the balance due, not to exceed $30 as soon as we have a final price so that you can make arrangements to send the balance due. This balance will need to be sent before we can mail the completed volume to you. We are sincerely grateful for your contributions and your support in this major endeavor. Gratefully, your Hoke cousin, Jean A. Berlekamp

I have a copy of an estate sale for one of my direct lines. There were three brothers. The second and third brother were listed as 'Admn', which I know is administrator. But the oldest brother, had 'B.S." penned after his name on the estate sale papers. He purchased several things and these initials were behind his name on every entry. Does anyone know exactly what this stood for? Thanks to all Sherry

I have been researching my Hefners in the Catawba area and have found many separate Hefner lines. My sister who also does research has volunteered to do a DNA on our line. It will take a while, and of course it is not worth anything at all unless one has other DNA's to compare with. So, I was wondering if any other Hefners have or plan to have DNA testing. It has to be the kind that is done only on male members of a HEFNER LINE. We have several male Hefner cousins and she has already obtained the sample, and I think it has already been sent in. I am not sure how long it will take. So is anyone interested? Wylene Alston

Charles-- Look on page 137 of 1880 Catawba Co. Census--He's listed in household of his brother John Calvin Shook & wife, Susan Catherine Lowrance Shook, kids, Carey, Janey, Solen, Bertha. Franklin's dau. Alice, m. in 1893 Thomas Luther Bumgarner; son, Jefferson L. m. in 1893 Emmeline Huffman; dau. Leila m. in 1885 Wm. M. Talbert or Tolbert; son, Jonas m. 1899 Alice M. Hedrick. All these marriages listed in Catawba Co. Marriages 1842-1900. Franklin's wife, Leah, must have died after 1870 as I can't find her after that. Ann Propst, Brevard, NC -----Original Message----- From: Charles Lail [mailto:crlail41@charter.net] Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2004 6:42 PM To: CATAWBA-WEST-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [CATAWBA-WEST] Franklin Shook/Leah Moser Franklin Shook b. ca 1840 Catawba County, s/o David and Matilda Elizabeth Kanipe Shook m. Leah J. Moser 19 Apr 1864 in Catawba County. I cannot find Franklin in the census books aftern 1860, nor can I find either in the cemetery listings of Catawba County.Can anyone offer any information on this couple? Where was Leah J. Moser from? Where are they buried? Did Leah have a sister named Rhoda who married John Shook? Was her father a J. P. ? Any clues at all would be appreciated. Thanks to Rootsweb for supplying space for this forum. Charles Lail Catawba County ==== CATAWBA-WEST Mailing List ==== ==== CATAWBA-WEST Mailing List ==== Sharing info on the region West of the Catawba River, NC For further info, see http://www.rootsweb.com/~nccatawb/ Our thanks to RootsWeb for hosting this list and web page

Franklin Shook b. ca 1840 Catawba County, s/o David and Matilda Elizabeth Kanipe Shook m. Leah J. Moser 19 Apr 1864 in Catawba County. I cannot find Franklin in the census books aftern 1860, nor can I find either in the cemetery listings of Catawba County.Can anyone offer any information on this couple? Where was Leah J. Moser from? Where are they buried? Did Leah have a sister named Rhoda who married John Shook? Was her father a J. P. ? Any clues at all would be appreciated. Thanks to Rootsweb for supplying space for this forum. Charles Lail Catawba County

>From: "Lynn E.Wesson" <Lynn@fastcode.com> >To: NCLINCOL-L@rootsweb.com > > >This obituary appeared in the High Point Enterprise on 2/27/04. Mrs Yount >was from Catawba Co. originally and taught in Lincoln Co. at one time. {She >was my second grade teacher in High Point, NC, in 1960!} >Lynn Wesson >Chapel Hill, NC > >Helen Yount >FAYETTEVILLE - Helen Foard Yount, the youngest child of Dr. Fred T. Foard, >died Feb. 23, 2004, from acute dementia in Fayetteville, following a long >period of poor health. >She had been in the care of Village Green Rehabilitation Center in >Fayetteville for more than six years. >A native of Catawba County, she was born in 1918, a child of Dr. Fred T. >Foard and Mattie Hoover Foard. Dr. Foard, after whom Fred T Foard High >School was named, was 63 when Helen was born. A North Carolina educator for >more than 45 she taught at Banoak Elementary in Vale, Grace Chapel >Elementary in Granite Falls, Thornton Elementary in Newton, Montlieu >Elementary in High Point, and completed her career at Murray School at Ft. >Bragg. She also was an elementary supervisor in Randolph County. >She taught in the CCC Camps during the 1930s. She was an active part of the >teacher-training program of Appalachian State University and served on the >summer faculty of A.S.U. during the 1960s. She earned a Bachelor of Arts >degree from Lenoir Rhyne College in 1938, graduating at age 19. In addition, >she held an Ed. M. from the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill. >A consummate educator, she was active with numerous teacher advocacy groups >on the local, state and national level. In addition to her parents, she was >preceded in death by a brother, Thomas Foard; half sisters, Mrs. George M. >Chapman, Mrs. Hiram S. Balch, and Mrs. George Penton; half brothers, Dr. >Fred T. Foard Jr. and Dr. Frank O. Foard; and Dr. C.K. Lynn and Mrs. Attley >Rhoney, who were raised as members of the Foard household. >Surviving are one son, Bobby Lon Yount and his wife, Elizabeth, of San Jose, >Calif. >A graveside service will be held at 2 p.m. Monday in Sardis Lutheran Church >Cemetery, 6103 N.C. 10 West, Hickory, with the Rev. Robert Howard >officiating. >Memorial gifts may be made to Sardis Lutheran Church at the address shown >above. >Sossoman Funeral Home, Morganton is assisting the family with arrangements. >(Obituary published in High Point Enterprise, High Point, North Carolina, >2/27/2004). > > > >==== NCLINCOL Mailing List ==== >==== LINCOLN Co., NC Mailing List ==== >Sharing information on Historic Lincoln Co., NC >For further info, see www.rootsweb.com/~nclincol/nclincoln.htm >Our thanks to RootsWeb for hosting this list and web page