Ransom Tobias Pope-b.6 July 1861, Catawba County NC, d. 30 June 1922, Hickory, NC-s/o Daniel and Gemima Lafone Pope. Gemima Lafone d/o Daniel and Rachel Hefner Lafone-had a sister named Mahala Lafone-my wife's gg-g'mother Mahal married Daniel Sheppard July 27, 1882, and promptly disappeared from all records. Anyone with any info other than census records is asked to please contact me. i have been looking for several years to no avail. Charles Lail Catawba County

Ok - I've consumed my crow willingly.... please accept my apologies and I promise to look before I leap next time! Familysearch.com is an often overlooked resource and that is the first place I look when I try to help with the queries. That's not to say that I believe they always have accurate information, because I don't believe that at all. I have a policy of verifying whatever data I find online, but at least it sometimes get me pointed in a good direction. BTW - for any Starr researchers on this list, I'm trying to prove (or disprove) that Jacob Starr of Lincoln Co. is the same Jacob Starr of Guilford Co. I've found some very compelling evidence so far. If this can be proven, Jacob can be linked back at least 2 more more generations. If anyone is interested in my findings or has some input on the subject, please let me know. Anita On Fri, 14 May 2004 23:13:01 -0400 Derick Hartshorn <DerickH@charter.net> writes: > Not to appear as a know-it-all but Cleveland, Rowan County is where > the big > Freightliner truck plant is. As soon as you cross the Iredell county > line > on Hwy 70 east you are in Cleveland, Rowan Co. > Cleveland County is west of Gaston county. The county seat is > Shelby. > > --Derick > > > At 10:21 PM 5/14/2004, you wrote: > >Hello Susan, > > > >familysearch.com has a little info about Joel Hoyle and Nancy > Downs. > >Cleveland and Rowan are separate counties; Cleveland is not a city > within > >Rowan county, so this information is not correct, but it's a place > to > >start. Gaston and Cleveland are neighboring counties. You can find > all of > >this and more on both the Hoyle and Downs families at > familysearch.com. > > > >Hope this helps! > > > >Anita > >Gastonia, NC > > > >Joel Hoyle > > Birth: 1838 Cleveland, Rowan, North Carolina > > > > Spouse: NANCY W. DOWNS > > Marriage: 24 APR 1859 , Cleveland, North Carolina > >Parents: > > Father: Eli Hoyle > > Mother: Sarah Ramsay - About 1809 Of, Cleveland, Rowan, > North > >Carolina > > > >Eli Hoyle > > Birth: 1793 Of, , Gaston, North Carolina > > : Father: Peter Hoyle > > Mother: Susannah Hovis > > > >Nancy DOWNS > > Birth: 1831 > > Casar, Cleveland, N.c. > >Parents: > > Father: Robert DOWNS > > Mother: Phoebe(Philly) MC CURRY > >******************************************************* > >On Fri, 14 May 2004 21:40:56 -0400 "Richard Marks" > <marksr1@ftc-i.net> > >writes: > > > I am looking for any information about Joel Hoyle (b. 19 Nov. > 1839, > > > d. 29 Nov. 1874) who married Nancy Downs (b. 29 Aug. 1831, d. > 26 > > > Sept. 1914). They are buried at Pisgah Baptist Cemetery near > Casar > > > in Cleveland County. I think their family lived in the > Cleveland > > > County/Lincoln County area. Any information about them and > their > > > family would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. > > > > > > Susan Marks > > > researching Erwin, Franklin, Poteat, Lutz, Hoyle, Dameron, > Arrowood, > > > Watts in Cleveland, Gaston, Lincoln, Burke, Rowan, Avery, > Catawba > > > counties > > > > > > > > > ==== CATAWBA-WEST Mailing List ==== > > > ==== CATAWBA-WEST Mailing List ==== > > > Sharing info on the region West of the Catawba River, NC > > > For further info, see http://www.rootsweb.com/~nccatawb/ > > > Our thanks to RootsWeb for hosting this list and web page > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >==== CATAWBA-WEST Mailing List ==== > >==== CATAWBA-WEST Mailing List ==== > >Sharing info on the region West of the Catawba River, NC > >For further info, see http://www.rootsweb.com/~nccatawb/ > >Our thanks to RootsWeb for hosting this list and web page > > > >

> Dear List Family, > > hi, my name is Deborah and i am searching for my > > AUNT > CHRISTINE WILSON > > i was just told she lived in HICKORY, NORTH CAROLINA @1957 > and she has a daughter > KAREN > > i DON'T know her married last name or names :-( > > she was born CRYSTINE .R. HELTON, b; 1906-1908 > > she was the BIRTH daughter of >DAVID.L. HELTON and RUBY ESMERALDA ELEANOR WILSON , >in LIBERTY HILL, TENNESSEE > and was in the 1910 census for that area, > > BUT > > she was raised as; > > CHRISTINE WILSON, b; 1911 > by > her aunt and uncle after 1912 after her father died > > our aunt and uncle is/was; > ALFRED T WILSON sr, > and wife > MARY ANN HELTON WILSON > they lived on BAXTER AVE,KNOXVILLE TN, > > she has a older birth sister > BESSIE CATHERINE LOUISE HELTON PARTON, born 1905,my mommy > and a younger birth brother > ALFRED > > he/ my uncle ALFRED TAYLOR WILSON,Jr, b; 1911 was also raised by the aunt and uncle, > they raised the children as their own birth children, > they loved them dearly, as they had no children of their own, > and > i don't know if the children grew up knowing they were HELTON, or not, > > BUT > my uncle ALFRED died as WILSON in 1988 > ALFRED married EDDIE TRAWICK in Georgia, > and the couple moved and lived out their lives in Northern California, > > > CHRISTINE was a STENOGRAPHER for a FURNITURE COMPANY in KNOXVILLE > in 1930, > and > she graduated from KNOXVILLE HIGH SCHOOL, about 1927/1928 > > i know she had > BLOND HAIR, it is SHOULD have been VERY CURLY, > because my mommy (her sister) > and their brothers were, > > by now there should be grandchildren of CHRISTINE WILSON __________ > children of her daughter, KAREN __________ > > i don't know if my aunt CHRISTINE had any other children or not, > > i heard years ago,that at one time CHRISTINE WORKED FOR A BANK, > but i cannot verify that, > > dearhearts > IF YOU KNOW A LADY IN HER 50s or 60S, NAMED > KAREN > PLEASE JUST ASK IF HER MOTHERS NAME IS/WAS > CHRISTINE WILSON, > > i know no other way of finding my aunt and her family, and keeping my word to my mommy , > my mommy searched > for her FAMILY, her mother, her sister CHRISTINE,brother ALFRED, and half brothers HERBERT and HAROLD, > ALL of my life, > > when she and my daddy were murdered,in a home robbery and kidnapping in Louisville in 1974, > i made a promise to my mommy, and my heart, > that i would continue her search until ALL OF HER FAMILY, > MOTHER AND SIBLINGS WERE FOUND, > > well i have found all except CHRISTINE now, > > but now, my pathe grows short here > and so i turn to you for help, > > agape, > Deborah > > MS DEBORAH DORA LEE PARTON > 1621.W.OKLAHOMA AVE > ENID,OKLAHOMA 73703 > phone;580-242-4241 > i was born and raised in So California and moved to Ok 15 years ago, > > email; willows@enid.com > ~~~~~~~~~~*~~~~~~~~~~ > Our Family Website; > http://www.geocities.com/jaybessieparton > > maternal side;Tennessee > HELTON/ HILTON/ HYLTON-COLLINS-KITT-WILLIAMS-MAYES-MITCHELL-LANIER-PLAINE-ARWINE-CLEMENS-GAR LAND-HARDWICK-WITT/ WHITT/ WHYTT/ DeWITT-LIPTROT-ROGERS-DAUX/ DAWKES-MITCHELL-BURGESS-WILSON-BERRY-LOYD-CHAMBERS-LUCK-SMITH-FROST-ANDRESEN -GARLAND-GORDON-PAINTER-ROSSER-NEAVIL-SMITH-SATTERFIELD-LAMB-and many others > > paternal side; Kentucky > PARTON/ PARTIN-HELTON/ HYLTON/ HILTON-FOLEY-HUBBARD-LEIGH / LAY-TRIMBLE-TARTER-DORTER-BALTHSER-FLEMING-LOGAN-HAWKINS-ENGLAND-ENGLE-STRUM -BEYERLE-CAMPBELL-WOODS-MUNCY/ MUNCIE-WARREN-UTTERBACK/ OTTERBACK-COBB-FISHBACK-LOWE-MC/FARLAND-MOTT-SHERROD-SUTTON-JONES-STANFIELD/ STANFILL-THOMAS-PORTER-MAILAND-LAUDERDALE-RICHER/RECTOR-HITT/ WHITT/ WHYTT-GOLDEN-GREEN/GREENE-and many more > > Luke 8:10, Make your own Miracles > Our Cattery Website; > http://www.angelfire.com/ok3/agapewillows1/

Dear List Family, hi, my name is Deborah and i am searching for my AUNT CHRISTINE WILSON i was just told she lived in HICKORY, NORTH CAROLINA @1957 and she has a daughter KAREN i DON'T know her married last name or names :-( she was born CRYSTINE .R. HELTON, b; 1906-1908 she was the BIRTH daughter of DAVID.L. HELTON and RUBY ESMERALDA ELEANOR WILSON , in LIBERTY HILL TENNESSEE and was in the 1910 census for that area, BUT she was raised as; CHRISTINE WILSON, b; 1911 by her aunt and uncle after 1912 after her father died our aunt and uncle is/was; ALFRED T WILSON sr, and wife MARY ANN HELTON WILSON they lived on BAXTER AVE,KNOXVILLE TN, she has a older birth sister BESSIE CATHERINE LOUISE HELTON PARTON, born 1905,my mommy and a younger birth brother ALFRED he/ my uncle ALFRED TAYLOR WILSON,Jr, b; 1911 was also raised by the aunt and uncle, they raised the children as their own birth children, they loved them dearly, as they had no children of their own, and i don't know if the children grew up knowing they were HELTON, or not, BUT my uncle ALFRED died as WILSON in 1988 ALFRED married EDDIE TRAWICK in Georgia, and the couple moved and lived out their lives in Northern California, CHRISTINE was a STENOGRAPHER for a FURNITURE COMPANY in KNOXVILLE in 1930, and she graduated from KNOXVILLE HIGH SCHOOL, about 1927/1928 i know she had BLOND HAIR, it is SHOULD have been VERY CURLY, because my mommy (her sister) and their brothers were, by now there should be grandchildren of CHRISTINE WILSON __________ children of her daughter, KAREN __________ i don't know if my aunt CHRISTINE had any other children or not, i heard years ago,that at one time CHRISTINE WORKED FOR A BANK, but i cannot verify that, dearhearts IF YOU KNOW A LADY IN HER 50s or 60S, NAMED KAREN PLEASE JUST ASK IF HER MOTHERS NAME IS/WAS CHRISTINE WILSON, i know no other way of finding my aunt and her family, and keeping my word to my mommy , my mommy searched for her FAMILY, her mother, her sister CHRISTINE,brother ALFRED, and half brothers HERBERT and HAROLD, ALL of my life, when she and my daddy were murdered,in a home robbery and kidnapping in Louisville in 1974, i made a promise to my mommy, and my heart, that i would continue her search until ALL OF HER FAMILY, MOTHER AND SIBLINGS WERE FOUND, well i have found all except CHRISTINE now, but now, my pathe grows short here and so i turn to you for help, agape, Deborah MS DEBORAH DORA LEE PARTON 1621.W.OKLAHOMA AVE ENID,OKLAHOMA 73703 phone;580-242-4241 i was born and raised in So California and moved to Ok 15 years ago, email; willows@enid.com ~~~~~~~~~~*~~~~~~~~~~ Our Family Website; http://www.geocities.com/jaybessieparton maternal side;Tennessee HELTON/ HILTON/HYLTON-COLLINS-KITT-WILLIAMS-MAYES-MITCHELL-LANIER- PLAINE-ARWINE-CLEMENS-GARLAND-HARDWICK-WITT/ WHITT/ WHYTT/ DeWITT- LIPTROT-ROGERS-DAUX/DAWKES-MITCHELL-BURGESS-WILSON-BERRY-LOYD-CHAMBERS-LUCK- SMITH-FROST-ANDRESEN-GARLAND-GORDON-PAINTER- ROSSER-NEAVIL-SMITH-SATTERFIELD-LAMB-and many others paternal side; Kentucky PARTON/ PARTIN-HELTON/ HYLTON/ HILTON-FOLEY-HUBBARD-LEIGH / LAY-TRIMBLE-TARTER-DORTER-BALTHSER-FLEMING-LOGAN-HAWKINS- ENGLAND-ENGLE-STRUM-BEYERLE-CAMPBELL-WOODS-MUNCY/ MUNCIE- WARREN-UTTERBACK/OTTERBACK-COBB-FISHBACK-LOWE-MC/FARLAND- MOTT-SHERROD-SUTTON-JONES-STANFIELD/STANFILL-THOMAS-PORTER- MAILAND-LAUDERDALE-RICHER/RECTOR-HITT/ WHITT/WHYTT-GOLDEN- GREEN/GREENE-and many more Luke 8:10, Make your own Miracles Our Cattery Website; http://www.angelfire.com/ok3/agapewillows1/

I have been searching for years for help finding some connections with my family. My Gr. Gr. Gr. Grandfather was Jospeh Johnson born in 1802 died in 1868. Married a few time once to a Hudson (Ibby) and later to Nancy Swoffard. His children are: With Ibby: John Isabella married a Huffman Elizabeth Margret Emaline married Franklin Shufford Daniel With Nancy: Susan Joseph Alexander Johnson (My Gr Gr) Mary Frances Joseph is buried in Hudson Family Cemetery southwest of Bakers Mt (Camp Creek). Joseph Alexander ended up in Vale where my family still lives. Anyone recognize any names or has further informaton would be greatly appreciated!!! Kevin Johnson

Hi, J. A. Fry, age 47 of Catawba Co., NC s/o of Conrad and Nancy Fry m. 22 Dec 1884 in Caldwell County, NC M. Emma Cook, age 21, d/o (father unk.) and Mary Cook. At first I thought this might be John A. Fry, b. 1844 but after 1860 I know nothing more of him. Then looking at his older brother, Jacob Augustus Fry, born in 1836 (now the age 47 of J. A. Fry fits), I have begun to wonder about this fellow. He m. Louisa E. Sigmon in 1857 and had 4 kids that I know of and were divorced. Then he had a relationship with Mary Linnie J. Starr which resulted in 11 kids born 1867 thru 1899! Does anyone know which J. A. Fry is the one that went to Caldwell Co. and married M. Emma Cook and did the marriage last and were any children a result of this union? Ann Propst, Brevard, NC

Hi, Need clarification on parents of Jacob Haas, age 51, who m. Julia Smith, age 35 (d/o of Joseph and Jane L. Smith) on 12 May 1878 in Caldwell County, NC. Jacob's parents listed as Henry and Catherine Haas both deceased of Lincoln Co., NC. I need to know which Henry and Catherine were his parents-Henry and Catherine Plonk Haas or Henry and Catherine Rink Haas (of whatever spelling of surname). Also, Julia's parents originally of Burke County, NC who were also deceased. Were they Joseph M. Smith and Eliza Jane Stamey? Thanks for any assistance. Ann Propst, Brevard, NC

Sorry, Anne--this was a huge oopsie on my part as the eyes rolled down to the wrong Mull as I was going back and forth between drafting my e-mail and my database. I thank you for calling this to my attention as I did want to cite Peter "High Sheriff" Mull. What I did cite, in error, where the years for John (Johannes) Mull. And, I'm still looking for Francis Palmer! Ann Propst, Brevard, NC -----Original Message----- From: Anne McAllister [mailto:awmcallister@charter.net] Sent: Monday, April 26, 2004 11:25 AM To: Catawba-West-L@rootsweb.com Cc: annsid@citcom.net Subject: Fw: [CATAWBA-WEST] Francis Palmer I have been interested in this discussion, but I need to call your attention to an error. We all make them, but we need to be always vigilent. The Peter Moll/Mull, who signed the papers in Rowan County, was Peter Mull, Sr., the JP who moved to Burke County and became High Sheriff, the highest positions in the county, a county that contained very few German speaking citizens. Peter Mull, Sr. was born c1735 and died before 28 October 1805, when Letters of Administration for his estate were ordered in Burke County, NC. He could not have been born in 1744, for his oldest son, John Mull was born in 1760. Peter Mull, Jr. was not born until 1773. High Sheriff Peter Mull, or Peter Mull, Sr. was the official who signed all the papers, witnessed wills, and performed marriages as a JP. This Peter Mull was one of the great leaders of our county, and has not received sufficient notice for his life. Remember, he was our official on the Rowan County of Safety in the Revolution. I do not understand the dates given for Peter Mull, Sr. as 1744-1831. Anne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ann Propst" <annsid@citcom.net> To: <CATAWBA-WEST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2004 6:43 PM Subject: [CATAWBA-WEST] Francis Palmer > Hi- > > In the various estate papers of Nicholas Frey is found Conrod Burns' > petition in Rowan Co., NC re his wife Hannah Frey Burns (dau. of > Nicholas) and her extra marital escapades with Bostian Cline, Jr. of > Rowan Co., NC (into GA and back) dated 10 Oct 1774. On this document is > the signature as a witness, Francis Palmer who had to have been born way > before 1755. One of the other witnesses appears to be Peter Moll > (1744-1831). > > I already know of a William Palmer b. 1777, wife, Sarah Rankin of Rowan > Co., NC and children who ended up in Wilson Co., TN, but I don't know > who his parents were. > > To back of a little bit, I am descended from Parmenas Palmer and Mary > Ann Draper of Lunenburg Co., VA. Of their sons, William m. Ann Spears > and ended up in Union Co., SC as did son, John Thomas, Sr. (my direct > ancestor) who. m. Mary Brett who begat Rev. John Thomas Palmer, Jr. b. > 1766, who served in the American Revolution as a substitute for his > father. Another son, Joshua also went to Union Co., SC. And there were > others into Spartanburg, SC area. > > Parmenas Palmer's father was Robert Palmer and whose youngest son, > George (Parmenas' brother) died in Buncombe Co., NC in 1731. > > It appears that in this generation of sons of Robert Palmer that there > was a lot of running from southern VA into NC and SC and back and forth > across borders right before the Revolutionary War. HELP! Any insight > will be greatly appreciated to find out where Francis Palmer fits into > this bunch if he does at all. > > Ann Propst, Brevard, NC > > > > ==== CATAWBA-WEST Mailing List ==== > ==== CATAWBA-WEST Mailing List ==== > Sharing info on the region West of the Catawba River, NC > For further info, see http://www.rootsweb.com/~nccatawb/ > Our thanks to RootsWeb for hosting this list and web page > >

I have been interested in this discussion, but I need to call your attention to an error. We all make them, but we need to be always vigilent. The Peter Moll/Mull, who signed the papers in Rowan County, was Peter Mull, Sr., the JP who moved to Burke County and became High Sheriff, the highest positions in the county, a county that contained very few German speaking citizens. Peter Mull, Sr. was born c1735 and died before 28 October 1805, when Letters of Administration for his estate were ordered in Burke County, NC. He could not have been born in 1744, for his oldest son, John Mull was born in 1760. Peter Mull, Jr. was not born until 1773. High Sheriff Peter Mull, or Peter Mull, Sr. was the official who signed all the papers, witnessed wills, and performed marriages as a JP. This Peter Mull was one of the great leaders of our county, and has not received sufficient notice for his life. Remember, he was our official on the Rowan County of Safety in the Revolution. I do not understand the dates given for Peter Mull, Sr. as 1744-1831. Anne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ann Propst" <annsid@citcom.net> To: <CATAWBA-WEST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2004 6:43 PM Subject: [CATAWBA-WEST] Francis Palmer > Hi- > > In the various estate papers of Nicholas Frey is found Conrod Burns' > petition in Rowan Co., NC re his wife Hannah Frey Burns (dau. of > Nicholas) and her extra marital escapades with Bostian Cline, Jr. of > Rowan Co., NC (into GA and back) dated 10 Oct 1774. On this document is > the signature as a witness, Francis Palmer who had to have been born way > before 1755. One of the other witnesses appears to be Peter Moll > (1744-1831). > > I already know of a William Palmer b. 1777, wife, Sarah Rankin of Rowan > Co., NC and children who ended up in Wilson Co., TN, but I don't know > who his parents were. > > To back of a little bit, I am descended from Parmenas Palmer and Mary > Ann Draper of Lunenburg Co., VA. Of their sons, William m. Ann Spears > and ended up in Union Co., SC as did son, John Thomas, Sr. (my direct > ancestor) who. m. Mary Brett who begat Rev. John Thomas Palmer, Jr. b. > 1766, who served in the American Revolution as a substitute for his > father. Another son, Joshua also went to Union Co., SC. And there were > others into Spartanburg, SC area. > > Parmenas Palmer's father was Robert Palmer and whose youngest son, > George (Parmenas' brother) died in Buncombe Co., NC in 1731. > > It appears that in this generation of sons of Robert Palmer that there > was a lot of running from southern VA into NC and SC and back and forth > across borders right before the Revolutionary War. HELP! Any insight > will be greatly appreciated to find out where Francis Palmer fits into > this bunch if he does at all. > > Ann Propst, Brevard, NC > > > > ==== CATAWBA-WEST Mailing List ==== > ==== CATAWBA-WEST Mailing List ==== > Sharing info on the region West of the Catawba River, NC > For further info, see http://www.rootsweb.com/~nccatawb/ > Our thanks to RootsWeb for hosting this list and web page > >

I sent to Catawba-West this list of militia officers sent to me by Grace Turner. Do take a look for Catawba men under Rowan County. George Wilfong, is spelled Wilsong, Barringer, Whitener Sherrill etc. appear here. anne

Hi- In the various estate papers of Nicholas Frey is found Conrod Burns' petition in Rowan Co., NC re his wife Hannah Frey Burns (dau. of Nicholas) and her extra marital escapades with Bostian Cline, Jr. of Rowan Co., NC (into GA and back) dated 10 Oct 1774. On this document is the signature as a witness, Francis Palmer who had to have been born way before 1755. One of the other witnesses appears to be Peter Moll (1744-1831). I already know of a William Palmer b. 1777, wife, Sarah Rankin of Rowan Co., NC and children who ended up in Wilson Co., TN, but I don't know who his parents were. To back of a little bit, I am descended from Parmenas Palmer and Mary Ann Draper of Lunenburg Co., VA. Of their sons, William m. Ann Spears and ended up in Union Co., SC as did son, John Thomas, Sr. (my direct ancestor) who. m. Mary Brett who begat Rev. John Thomas Palmer, Jr. b. 1766, who served in the American Revolution as a substitute for his father. Another son, Joshua also went to Union Co., SC. And there were others into Spartanburg, SC area. Parmenas Palmer's father was Robert Palmer and whose youngest son, George (Parmenas' brother) died in Buncombe Co., NC in 1731. It appears that in this generation of sons of Robert Palmer that there was a lot of running from southern VA into NC and SC and back and forth across borders right before the Revolutionary War. HELP! Any insight will be greatly appreciated to find out where Francis Palmer fits into this bunch if he does at all. Ann Propst, Brevard, NC

Folks, I have completed the latest revision of the Burke County Surname List. http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncburke/surname-reg.htm It also has a link to the Catawba County Surname List. http://www.rootsweb.com/~nccatawb/surnames.htm I have included a third column for notes which are also hot links. Please feel free to request a listing on either page. --Derick

My great grandfather's death certificate has an error.   Is there anything that can be done. William Lawrence Bolick born and raised in Catawba County moved to Arkansas and remarried there. At his death, his wife who was 29 years younger than he, gave the information for the certificate.   His father is listed as Jackarius Bolick and his mother as Mary Emiline Mouser.  This is wrong.  His father was Jaconias Bolick and his mother was Rhoda Emiline Bowman.   Mary Mouser was his grandmother. It is understandable how this could happen. From what others have said he seldom mentioned his family and children in NC and his second wife may have been doing the best she could.   The certificate is from 1945. I'd appreciate any thoughts the group might have on this. Sincerely, Cynthia Bolick Gilbert

Dear Ann, Some additioinal information on Annie Yoder: Daniels Church Cemetery: John Reep, Feb 20, 1818 - Aug 12, 1881 Annie E. Reep, Aug 7, 1823 - Oct 10, 1914 1900 Gaston County Census, Cherryville Twp: Annie is living with son-n-law, Charlie Wise and wife Alice. Alice was born May 1866, and had three children, all living, Mallie (dau) born Feb 1897, Ethel (dau), born May 1899, and infant (son), born May 1900. Annie was listed as being born Aug 1823 and having two children, one dead. 1910 Lincoln County Census. Howards Creek Twp: Annie is still living with Charles F. Wise, but Alice has died, and Charles has remarried Annie ---- four years previously. Annie has two children, both living. Those in the household are Charles F. Wise, 34, married, 2nd, 4 years, Annie, married 1st, 4 years, Mallie M., 13, Ethel L., 10, Fred C. 10, Floy I. (dau), 8, Walter F., 2, and Vida F., 11/12. Zion Methodist Church Cemetery, Lincoln County: Alice P. Wise, wife of C. F. Wise, May 4, 1866 - Aug 3, 1903. (Alice probably died in childbirth since her last child is listed as "8 years old" in 1910.) Best Regards, Ray Yount On Wed, 21 Apr 2004 18:23:35 -0500 Ann Propst <annsid@citcom.net> writes: > Hi- > > Ran across a "curious" entry in Catawba Cousins, Vol. 1, No. 1, p > 13, > Zion Lutheran Church Birth and Baptismal Records-"Johannes Yoder and > his > wife Polly a daughter Anna Eliza Clarica born 7 August 1823". > > I always thought that "Anna Eliza born 7 Aug 1823 was the d/o of > Johannes Yoder II and his wife, Sarah "Sallie" Whitener. The above > one > would assume that it was Johannes Yoder, Sr., 1764-1835 (father of > Johannes, Jr.) and his wife, Mary Barbara Reep, 1763-1842, making > her a > mother at age 50 which is not impossible. > > Is this an error in the Zion Church records? Any insight would be > appreciated. Thanks. > > Ann Propst, Brevard, NC > > > > ==== CATAWBA-WEST Mailing List ==== > ==== CATAWBA-WEST Mailing List ==== > Sharing info on the region West of the Catawba River, NC > For further info, see http://www.rootsweb.com/~nccatawb/ > Our thanks to RootsWeb for hosting this list and web page > > > ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!

Dear Ann, I believe Anna Eliza Clarica was the daughter of John Yoder, Jr. and Sally Whitener. There are many mistakes in the Zion baptismal transcripts published in "Catawba Cousins", undoubtedly due to the difficulty in reading the German script. I can see how it would be possible to misread Sally as Polly. For example, my great great grandfather, Levi Franklin Yount, was transcribed as Luther Franklin. In one other instance, George Whisenhunt appears as George Whitener. According to Fred R. Yoder's "History of the Yoder Family in North Carolina, John Yoder, Jr. had a daughter Anna who married John Reep. Her birth date is not listed, but 7 Aug 1823 fits in nicely with her next older and next younger siblings, Daniel M. Yoder born 10 Apr 1822, and Levi Yoder born 29 Nov 1825. There is no daughter Anna listed for John Yoder, Sr. Best Regards, Ray Yount On Wed, 21 Apr 2004 18:23:35 -0500 Ann Propst <annsid@citcom.net> writes: > Hi- > > Ran across a "curious" entry in Catawba Cousins, Vol. 1, No. 1, p > 13, > Zion Lutheran Church Birth and Baptismal Records-"Johannes Yoder and > his > wife Polly a daughter Anna Eliza Clarica born 7 August 1823". > > I always thought that "Anna Eliza born 7 Aug 1823 was the d/o of > Johannes Yoder II and his wife, Sarah "Sallie" Whitener. The above > one > would assume that it was Johannes Yoder, Sr., 1764-1835 (father of > Johannes, Jr.) and his wife, Mary Barbara Reep, 1763-1842, making > her a > mother at age 50 which is not impossible. > > Is this an error in the Zion Church records? Any insight would be > appreciated. Thanks. > > Ann Propst, Brevard, NC > > > > ==== CATAWBA-WEST Mailing List ==== > ==== CATAWBA-WEST Mailing List ==== > Sharing info on the region West of the Catawba River, NC > For further info, see http://www.rootsweb.com/~nccatawb/ > Our thanks to RootsWeb for hosting this list and web page > > > ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!

Hi, again-disconnected by local ISP while sending; hope you don't receive duplicates. Ann Hi, Need clarification of birth and baptismal dates for these two sons of Solomon Deitz and Elizabeth Deitz- Per "Catawba Cousins", Vol. 1, No. 1, pp 15-16 (plus other sources) dates are as follows: Christian Frederick Deitz born 10 January 1827; baptized 31 March 1827 (m. Lucinda Caroline Reitzel) Jonas Conrad Deitz born 25 April 1827; baptized 6 May 1827 (no further data) There were two Solomon Deitz/Dietz in Lincoln Co., NC that I'm aware of-there might be others- Solomon Dietz, Sr. 5 Oct 1762-1822 with at least two wives: (1) Anna Barbara Krimmer; (2) Elizabeth Huffman And, their son, Solomon Deitz, Jr. 1793-1871 who m. Elizabeth Deitz. Is it possible that the first or second Solomon Deitz "adopted" one of the above children? Thanks for any insight. Ann Propst, Brevard, NC

Hi- Ran across a "curious" entry in Catawba Cousins, Vol. 1, No. 1, p 13, Zion Lutheran Church Birth and Baptismal Records-"Johannes Yoder and his wife Polly a daughter Anna Eliza Clarica born 7 August 1823". I always thought that "Anna Eliza born 7 Aug 1823 was the d/o of Johannes Yoder II and his wife, Sarah "Sallie" Whitener. The above one would assume that it was Johannes Yoder, Sr., 1764-1835 (father of Johannes, Jr.) and his wife, Mary Barbara Reep, 1763-1842, making her a mother at age 50 which is not impossible. Is this an error in the Zion Church records? Any insight would be appreciated. Thanks. Ann Propst, Brevard, NC

Agnes-- Looking further, I found that (listed with Frances Ann Moose Huitt/Hewitt in 1900) Myrtle Estelle Huitt/Hewitt m. Ray M. Hunsucker 1895-1930 & buried in Conover City Cemetery; and Mary Jane "Molly" Huitt/Hewitt m. a Pinkney Pope. Where I ran across this I can't remember as it's been so long ago. Whether any of this is correct is debatable. I thought it was interesting that two different Lewis or Louis Huitts/Hewitts had daughters with almost same given names. Hopefully, someone over in Catawba Co. can peruse that tombstone in St. James Lutheran Church Cemetery and recheck that date of 1890 or 1899. Ann Agnes-- I have a Myrtle Hewitt b. 28 Jul 1893-13 May 1983 who m. a Morris, and Mamie b. April 1898, d/o Lewis Jerome Hewitt and Cora B. Yount. Perhaps these two young ladies were visiting Frances Ann Moose Hewitt? Ann Propst, Brevard, NC -----Original Message----- From: Agnes [mailto:agnesec@cableone.net] Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 9:23 PM To: CATAWBA-WEST-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [CATAWBA-WEST] Re: Setzer/Hewitt marriage In the church book of St. James Lutheran, Newton, Catawba Co., NC there is a record of the marriage of Lewis M. Hewitt/Huitt and Frances Ann Moose with the date of 30 Jan 1887. In the Catawba County Cemetery books there is a record of the deaths of these two people. The tombstone reading for Lewis says he died 25 Nov, 1890 which puzzles me because when I find Frances Ann Moose Hewitt/Huitt a widow with three children, Georgia b July 1891, which would be ok but there are also Myrtle b July 1895 and Mary b Nov 1896. I wonder if the gravestone reading is in error, and should perhaps read 1899? Does anyone have more information about this couple? Does anyone know what caused Lewis Hewitt/Huit's death? Thanks Agnes Cloninger ==== CATAWBA-WEST Mailing List ==== ==== CATAWBA-WEST Mailing List ==== Sharing info on the region West of the Catawba River, NC For further info, see http://www.rootsweb.com/~nccatawb/ Our thanks to RootsWeb for hosting this list and web page

Agnes-- I have a Myrtle Hewitt b. 28 Jul 1893-13 May 1983 who m. a Morris, and Mamie b. April 1898, d/o Lewis Jerome Hewitt and Cora B. Yount. Perhaps these two young ladies were visiting Frances Ann Moose Hewitt? Ann Propst, Brevard, NC -----Original Message----- From: Agnes [mailto:agnesec@cableone.net] Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 9:23 PM To: CATAWBA-WEST-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [CATAWBA-WEST] Re: Setzer/Hewitt marriage In the church book of St. James Lutheran, Newton, Catawba Co., NC there is a record of the marriage of Lewis M. Hewitt/Huitt and Frances Ann Moose with the date of 30 Jan 1887. In the Catawba County Cemetery books there is a record of the deaths of these two people. The tombstone reading for Lewis says he died 25 Nov, 1890 which puzzles me because when I find Frances Ann Moose Hewitt/Huitt a widow with three children, Georgia b July 1891, which would be ok but there are also Myrtle b July 1895 and Mary b Nov 1896. I wonder if the gravestone reading is in error, and should perhaps read 1899? Does anyone have more information about this couple? Does anyone know what caused Lewis Hewitt/Huit's death? Thanks Agnes Cloninger ==== CATAWBA-WEST Mailing List ==== ==== CATAWBA-WEST Mailing List ==== Sharing info on the region West of the Catawba River, NC For further info, see http://www.rootsweb.com/~nccatawb/ Our thanks to RootsWeb for hosting this list and web page

In the church book of St. James Lutheran, Newton, Catawba Co., NC there is a record of the marriage of Lewis M. Hewitt/Huitt and Frances Ann Moose with the date of 30 Jan 1887. In the Catawba County Cemetery books there is a record of the deaths of these two people. The tombstone reading for Lewis says he died 25 Nov, 1890 which puzzles me because when I find Frances Ann Moose Hewitt/Huitt a widow with three children, Georgia b July 1891, which would be ok but there are also Myrtle b July 1895 and Mary b Nov 1896. I wonder if the gravestone reading is in error, and should perhaps read 1899? Does anyone have more information about this couple? Does anyone know what caused Lewis Hewitt/Huit's death? Thanks Agnes Cloninger