Hi Everyone, Looking for info on the following persons: Drewry Hamilton married Cemila Jones Pichney Heffner married Maheda Travis Their children where Robert Hamilton and Minnie Heffner and where married 2-23-1893. All are believed to be from Catawba Co. Any help will be appreciated. Thanks to all. Kirk Cronland Lincolnton, NC

hi folks, I am looking for a needle in a haystack (aren't we all). Here is what I know - I hope that it will ring a bell with someone. My great grandfather was Sidney Jorlan JOHNSON. He was born14 April 1889 in Catawba County, North Carolina. He married Bessie Mathilda MOSTELLER and then died 13 October 1954 in Lincoln County. His parents are listed as Dave a nd jane JOHNSON. I have no dates for these folks. The family "story" is that Miss PRICE brought Sidney, as a baby, over to the Johnsons and said for them to take him or she was going to throw him in the river. I cannot prove this ever happened. However, If anyone knows of these families please drop me a note. i believe that their may also be some clues in the 1890 Catawba County Census, but I can't get to anywhere to view it. Anyhelp will be loved and adored, Stacey

In my HOOVER research, I have come across the following Noah Walter SEAGLE b c1837: Descendants of George Seagle 1 George SEAGLE b: 1801 in North Carolina .... +Malinda HOOVER b: 30 Aug 1809 in Lincoln Co., NC d: 17 Oct 1851 m: 25 May 1837 in Lincoln Co., NC Burial: Trinity Lutheran Church Cemetery, Vale, NC Father: Solomon Hoover Mother: Hannah Catherine Arndt .... 2 Noah Walter SEAGLE b: Abt. 1837 in NC (age 13 in 1850) .... 2 Myra Catherine SEAGLE b: 02 Sep 1841 in NC d: 21 Dec 1919 Burial: Trinity Lutheran Church Cemetery, Vale, NC ..........+Thomas Clark WILSON b: 01 Jun 1856 d: 26 Oct 1898 Burial: Trinity Lutheran Church Cemetery, Vale, NC .... 2 Tryena? SEAGLE b: Abt. 1844 in NC .... 2 William L. SEAGLE b: Abt. 1847 in NC There could be other children - these are from the 1850 Lincoln Co., NC census. I would appreciate any additions and corrections to the above. Donna J. Johnson Charlotte, Mecklenburg Co., North Carolina, USA my url: <http://www.geocities.com/heartland/hills/1174> ----- Original Message ----- From: "hlwar" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 31, 2000 10:59 PM Subject: [Catawba-West] SEAGLE > Hoping someone on this list might be researching > Noah SEAGLE b. c1834, NC > Listed on the 1850 & 1860 Catawba Co. , NC census. > Wife Ann, children: Andrew, Daniel, John C. & Noah. > (on the 1850 & 1860 census, that has been trans- > scribed, they are incorrectly listed as Speagle) > After Noah Seagle's death, the sons are found in Burke > Co., NC > I would greatly appreciate any help. > Linda J. Warren > Summerton, SC

While researching I came across this article in the "Lincoln County News", Friday, April 9, 1909. I found it interesting and may be of help to someone. Linda McCarthy Wakefield, MA "Mystery of the Old Grave Explained" " While breaking new ground last week on the place of Mr. R.L. Mullen formerly known as the Killian tract, the ploughman discovered a grave by reason of his mule breaking through the top of it. Hurried excavation discovered the remains of a human skeleton. The bones were all decayed except the larger bones of the arms, legs, one hip blade, a part of the skull and the lower jaw bone which was filled with teeth everyone of which was sound. When first exhumed these bones were apparently sound, but on being exposed to the air they became brittle and soon began cumbling up. About forty feet from the grave opening the mule broke into another one but it has not been dug out. These two graves, and a third one some forty rods away which is marked with a stone, were all in the natural growth woods of hickory and oak and are located on the top of a dry rolling hill. Mrs. Sarah Starnes of R.F.D. 4, was in town Wednesday and says that she knew of the grave, which is marked by stone and her father, Mr. David Benick, had often told her that it contained the body of Christopher Gross, who was one of the pioneers and original settlers of that country, and took out a grant for the tract of land on which the grave is located. This grave is marked with a stone, which at one time bore the name of Christopher Gross and the date of his death, but which is now illegible - Gross's grave is on a high bluff and the grave which was ploughed was located on a slope and about 200 yards from the Gross grave. The opened grave extends North and South instead of East and West as is customary. Mrs. Starnes father had often told her that there were negroes buried on this place but the exact location was not known. It is supposed that these bodies have been buried at least 100 years."

Pat - also look for Luckie, Luckey. -----Original Message----- From: Pat Caswell Cloninger <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Tuesday, February 01, 2000 8:46 AM Subject: [Catawba-West] Open Mind! >Larry, > If I were a gambling man, I would try to take your money. > > I only have your message as a basis for this theory but logic tells me that Sallie Leckie that you don't know is in reality, Sallie Lackie (Lackey). With her death in 1935 there should be a death certificate in Lincolnton. Man, that is modern and I believe vital statistics were being kept at that date. Often I am not sure of anything but my hunches seem to come true. > > I need to go to the court house in Lincolnton this week so I will see if I can find a death certificate for Sallie Leckie or Lacky or something close to that that has the correct date to match your records and I bet we will get a match. > > I know, you are working today and will not see this until night. Have a good day. Remember, your patients only expect your best, not miracles. > > Pat C. Cloninger > > >==== CATAWBA-WEST Mailing List ==== >781,000+ surnames =|= Archives =|= 16,100 discussion listss >Your gracious donations to RootsWeb makes this all possible. >RootsWeb Gen. Data Coop. Box 6798 Frazier Park, CA 93222 >

Larry, If I were a gambling man, I would try to take your money. I only have your message as a basis for this theory but logic tells me that Sallie Leckie that you don't know is in reality, Sallie Lackie (Lackey). With her death in 1935 there should be a death certificate in Lincolnton. Man, that is modern and I believe vital statistics were being kept at that date. Often I am not sure of anything but my hunches seem to come true. I need to go to the court house in Lincolnton this week so I will see if I can find a death certificate for Sallie Leckie or Lacky or something close to that that has the correct date to match your records and I bet we will get a match. I know, you are working today and will not see this until night. Have a good day. Remember, your patients only expect your best, not miracles. Pat C. Cloninger

Martha, I have been spending my early morning hours attempting to learn something more about Mark Smith's Book and about the early German Lutherans which were here in OLD LINCOLN COUNTY. I am sorry, but I have not found the name of Moses Bumgarner in print, whowever there are several references to the delegates from Lebanon Lutheran Church in Mark's Book. I have no doubt that he was present at several meetings which Mark and Robert included in the History of St. John's Luth. Ch. It is obvious that all references and notes could not be printed in their entirety. I shall refer to a few so you can do more research if you choose. On page 120 reference is made to CAROLINIAN HERALD which is located at the Abdel Ross Wentz Library, Gettysburg, PA. A Certtificate was prepared and signed by 71 Council Members from St. John's, Lebanon, White Haven, Philadelphia, Beaver Dam, School House Churches. Only the members of St. John's Church is listed. On pages 75 & 76 the names of 9 churches are listed showing membership of 760 in the churches served by David Henkle This information can be found at the OLD SALEM LIBRARY, Winston Salem, NC. Lebanon Lutheran Church was listed as having 40 members. In the Lutheran Church, the membership is listed usually as Confirmed or adult members. Child members, even though they have been baptized can not vote in the actions of the congregation. To become a voting member the person must be (about 12 years of age) Confirmed into adult membership. The rite of confirmation is what prepares a youthful member for receiving the sacrament and the responsibility of full church membership. Early on in my Parish Ministry I learned that it was best to have students who were all in the same grade in school rather than age. I would expect them to perform at a certain grade level. I must tell you that did not even work. After a session of instruction I had a man tiwce as big as I was come to the parsonage and threaten me every way possible without hitting me. I had embarrased his adopted son. His son was in the 6th grade and his Adopted Mother was a teacher of the third grade in school, and this child could not read. I was supposed to know that without ever being told. I would have been happy to have had private lessons had I known. The first question is, how did he get all the way into the 6th grade without being able to read? Sorry did not mean to wander. I have been spending lots of time trying to put things together between Lebanon Lutheran Church with its cemetery at the back of the Mt. View Baptist Church Cemetery, east of Little Mountain in Catawba County and the now existing St. Lukes (Ore Bank), at Punkin Center in eastern Lincoln County. I have not been able to find any information that outlines just when Lebanon totaly folded as a Lutheran Congregation and then continued as a Methodist Church which still exists today, very near the original location of the Lebanon Church at the Spring. I will be very happy to receive any comments wnyone might have concerning this immediate area of OLD LINCOLN COUNTY. Information about this area may be found in relation to the following historical places. Chronicle Post Office which was also at the Spring. A little later, Killians Store which was located at Killians Crossroads. (hwy 150 & 16). Rock Springs Campground (Methodist) located in Denver, NC (Denver of the East). Martha, please keep me posted of any new material you find about Moses Bumgarner and his Lutheran Church Membership. All comments will be welcome. Pat C. Cloninger Newton, NC

THE STARNES FAMILY FOUR GENERATION PROJECT http://www.trellis.net/steel/sta/unplaced.htm UNPLACED MEMBERS OF THE FREDERICK STARNES I FAMILY John Starnes. John Starnes (born ca 1770-1780, died December 16, 1859). He died in Lee Valley, Tennessee. He was a son of John Starnes who lived in Craig County, Virginia. ..... NOTE: This information from Sherill Underwood Williams, letter to Herman Starnes, August 5, 1967. Mr. Williams, As you note in the signoff below, you have been in the genealogy game over 25 years. At least 32, if the above quote from the STARNES 4-Generation Project web site is correct! Now I recognize that 32 years is a long time to remember a particular letter, but I am hoping that you do recall the one cited above. I am descended from the John STARNES cited there. But I have found conflicting stories about where he was born and came to TN from. Beside the claim attributed to you above, Herman Starnes's book "Of Them That Left A Name Behind: A History of the Starnes Family" also cites a claim that he from the Mecklenburgh NC Starnes line. Those of us who descend in his line are desperate to find some records to settle this conflict of possibilities. Can you search your memory or notes to help us? I know I may be like a bad penny that keeps showing up, having tried to reach you without success more than once before. My apologies if you don't want to pursue this with me, but I would appreciate any help you can give. Even a confirmation or denial of the citation from the web site would be helpful. With best wishes and thanks, Charles STARNES. Sherrill U Williams wrote: > > This information on the Callaway family is so full of error that it should > not be posted at all. .... the Callaway information is quite unreliable. > > Sherrill U. Williams > Genealogist (for over 25 years) of The Callaway Family Assoc., Inc. >

Hoping someone on this list might be researching Noah SEAGLE b. c1834, NC Listed on the 1850 & 1860 Catawba Co. , NC census. Wife Ann, children: Andrew, Daniel, John C. & Noah. (on the 1850 & 1860 census, that has been trans- scribed, they are incorrectly listed as Speagle) After Noah Seagle's death, the sons are found in Burke Co., NC I would greatly appreciate any help. Linda J. Warren Summerton, SC

Source: Confederate Soldiers of Cleveland & Rutherford Counties, North Carolina 1861-1865 Hannah Wolbrueck Texas BURNES (S.C., N.C.), MELLETT (N.C.), DAVIS (N.C.), JOLLEY (N.C.), MELTON (N.C.)

This is answers for the Deitz line on Catawba-West. Linda ---------- > From: George W Killian <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Catawba-West] Fw: Andrew Killian/Susannah Moody > Date: Monday, January 31, 2000 10:28 AM > > >From G W Killian [email protected] > I have had the name as Dietz and thought your Deitz was an error. I was > very surprised to find that I have carried this error for many years. My > data came from the J Yates Killian book. I went back to the original and > found it was indeed Deitz. I'm glad you asked this question and helped > me find this rather serious error. I have changed the 23 Dietz names in > my computer to Deitz. > I have Three Jacob Deitz names. To distinguish between them I will use > their RIN numbers (from my computer) I have Jacob Deitz 24120, Jacob > Deitz 4144, and Jacob Deitz 3406. > > Jacob Deitz 3406 had a large family of 12 children including Jacob Deitz > 24120. > Jacob 3406 married Sarah Killian who was a daughter of John Killian who > was the third child of Andreas. > Another child of Jacob 3406 was Israel and Israel had a son Jacob Deitz > 4144 > > > On Sun, 30 Jan 2000 16:26:23 -0500 "Linda Hoyle" <[email protected]> > writes: > > From: James and Barbara Schulik <[email protected]> > > To: Linda Hoyle <[email protected]> > > Subject: Re: [Catawba-West] Fw: Andrew Killian/Susannah Moody > > Date: Sunday, January 30, 2000 2:03 PM > > > > Just checking -- Is Andreas, son of John, maybe a brother to Sarah > Killian b. about 1773 (dtr of John) who m. Jacob Deitz 1792 Lincoln Co. > I am from Jacob's bro. Samuel and very interested in Lincoln/Catawba > Co. -- hope to get there this summer and visit cemeteries, etc. I have > that Sarah d. between 1840/1850 NC??? Also I have her mother as > Elizabeth but do not have a surname. Also, I have no siblings for > arah??? Could be interested in the reunion since I would surely meet > some Deitz descendants there. Too bad about your weather -- you guys > have really had it. Such a beautiful state though. > > Thanks, > > Barbara (Lynn) Schulik, St. Charles Co., MO > [Note from G W Killian: I have trouble with the relationships you give > above and can't determine a suitable answer. If you will be more > specific based on what I have given I might be able to help. By the way, > there are lots of Killians in MO not too far from you, in Perryville, MO. > Or at least there were 100 years ago. Many have moved away and many are > now through the female lines. My own father was born in PErryville in > 1891 and I have a lot of data on the Perryville, MO Killians. > > > ---------- > > > > .......James & Barbara, thank you for responding. John is the son > > of > > Andreas Killian. I am not a Killian historian, genealogist but I am > > proud > > to say we have quite a few very good ones that are on the Killian > > list. > > Please subscribe to [email protected] . I will cc this reply > > to the > > Killian list. Quite possibly you may get some answers. Seems like > > quite a > > few of us are snowbound, which makes for a wonderful chance to be on > > a > > genealogical list. > > > > We have a saying in North Carolina. "If you do not like the > > weather, wait > > a few days and it will change." North Carolina is truly a beautiful > > state. > > We have the mountains and the coasts with a lot of history in > > between. The > > sky is now much lighter maybe we will miss the freezing rain > > forecast for > > this afternnon and tonight. Good luck on your Deitz, Sarah, > > Elizabeth. > > Linda in Lincoln Co.---------- > > > > > > ==== KILLIAN Mailing List ==== > > Killian-L Rotating Tag-Line 2 of 3 > > Visit the Killian List's web pages at either: > > http://genealogy.org/~green/Killian.html > > http://millennium.fortunecity.com/greendale/1096/Killian.html > > > > ________________________________________________________________ > YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! > Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! > Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. > > > ==== KILLIAN Mailing List ==== > Killian-L Rotating Tag-Line 3 of 3 Posts to List cannot have html. > Here is how to turn off html in Email Programs: > http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/listowners/html-off.htm

Michael, I am posting this to Catawba West hoping that someone can give us the e-mail address for Mrs. Linn. I have her mailing address as: Jo White Linn P.O. Box 1948 Salisbury, NC 28145-1948 According to the 1980 Edition of "North Carolina Research Genealogy and Local History" she is listed as Mrs. Stahle Linn, Jr. President of the North Carolina Genealogical society. She is the author of 8 books and other papers, as of 1980. When the notice was first made abailable about the Arends material information was circulated that she had been injured and spent some time in the hospital. Many of us who ordered her book did wait for a while before they were received, but that was several months ago. I am indeed sorry you have not received your copy of the book. If this does not get you the information you need to foloow up on the delivery, let me know and if necessary I will see what more I can do. I know that I can get a message to her less expensively than a phone call from California. Will be glad to assist further if that is necessary. Keep an eye out for MOSER LUTHERAN JOURNALS OR DIARY's Pat C. Cloninger Newton, NC

Barbara, looks like Gene Killian may have what you are looking for. I do not know if you have subscribed to [email protected] so I picked this up and am forwarding it on to you and Catawba/West. Linda In Lincoln Co. ---------- > From: Gene Killian <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Catawba-West] Fw: Andrew Killian/Susannah Moody > Date: Sunday, January 30, 2000 8:04 PM > > To: Barbara Schulik > This should give you an answer to your question - siblings for Sarah > (Killian) Deitz. > Children of Ann Elizabeth (____) (Zimmerman) Killian, wife of John, the son > of Andreas Killian. Taken from the will of (Ann) Elizabeth Killian, 1802 > Lincoln County, NC, in order listed, with added information by me: > (first marriage) > Smith, Catherina (Zimmerman), wife of Daniel Smith. > Zimmerman, Michael Jr., son > (from 2nd marriage) > Killian, Jacob (Sr.) son and executor (1760-1830) > Yount, Marellis (Killian), dau, wife of Jacob Yount > Killian, John (Jr.), son (abt. 1764 - after 1830?) > Killian, Phillip, son > Suttlemire, Mary (Killian)(Fye/Fey), dau, wife of Martin Suttlemire > (Suttlemyre?) > Killian, Abraham, son (abt.1769-1823) > Deitz, Sarah (Killian), dau, wife of Jacob Deitz > > Gene > From: Gene Killian <[email protected]> > > (omitted here) > > From: James and Barbara Schulik <[email protected]> > > To: Linda Hoyle <[email protected]> > > Subject: Re: [Catawba-West] Fw: Andrew Killian/Susannah Moody > > Date: Sunday, January 30, 2000 2:03 PM > > > > Just checking -- Is Andreas, son of John, maybe a brother to Sarah > Killian > > b. about 1773 (dtr of John) who m. Jacob Deitz 1792 Lincoln Co. I am > from > > Jacob's bro. Samuel and very interested in Lincoln/Catawba Co. -- hope to > > get there this summer and visit cemeteries, etc. I have that Sarah d. > > between 1840/1850 NC??? Also I have her mother as Elizabeth but do not > > have a surname. Also, I have no siblings for Sarah??? Could be > (omitted here) > > > ==== KILLIAN Mailing List ==== > Killian-L Rotating Tag-Line 1 of 3 > To unsubscribe send email to [email protected] > In the message type: unsubscribe

Lowrances Mills, N. C. August 18, 1838 Dear friends and relations: I now embrace the present opportunity of writing a few lines to you to inform you that we are all on the land amongst the living and all in common health but my wife. She has been unwell a few days past, but is now on the mend. I will inform you that we have had a very severe drouth in this country, but it has not been a general one--some parts of the county and some of the adjoining counties has been tolerable seasonable, but our neighborhood has suffered very much and is still dry and no appearance of rain. Our Upland corn is very light--we had very good wheat crops--oats tolerable, but we look for very light corn crops, and I do not expect we shall be much mistaken in our calculations. I will inform you that I received your letter of the 23rd of June and was more than glad to hear from you all and that you was all well which is the greatest blessing we can enjoy on this earth. NY old friend, you wrote in your letter that you wanted to know whether I was of the old or new school--well sir, I will inform you that I belong to the old school and I will inform you that you belong to the new school. You say the government has changed--I say so too; you say you are not for pulling down one Institution and building up another--I say so too; you say the government was planned by a majority of good old Republicans--well sir, so says I; but sir, I assure you that them good old Republicans that you speak of never established any national bank nor would there ever have been such an Institution formed had the government always been ruled by such men as formed it--this you may well know if you will read the proceedings of the Convention that formed the Constitution. You will see that every state but two voted against the emission of paper money of any kind I will now state to you the opinions of some of them good republicans you was pleased to refer to--I have their opinions in print now before me. General Washington says, "I hope I shall never hear any more mention of paper money in the United States, he says, I do verily believe that the greatest of foes we have in the world could not devise a more effective plan of ruining the country". Thomas Jefferson was of the same opinion and says that his hostility to banking was strengthened by every year's reflection and experience. Benjamin Franklin was equally as much opposed to the banking system as any of them--he says the most effectual plan for cheating the laborious class of mankind and fertilizingthe speculators field by the sweat of the poor mans brow is the banking system. These are the opinions of them good old republicans that helped to form our system of government, but you say the government has changed--I agree with you in that it has changed it's original purity for a base plan of speculation by banking; you say your mind cannot change, you was always in favor of a national bank--well sir, all the Federalists in this country is of the same opinion and to prove the fact that they are Federalists, I will name some of them to you. There is Robert Burton, Lawson Henderson, Maxwell Wilson, Jacob Shuford, Isaac Lowrance, tanner, and Enos Sherrill. These you know was some of our bluest Federalists when you lived in this county, and they still are, so they are all great bank men. They now modestly assume the name of Whigs, but their principles is just what you might expect--that is no change at all in them. Now my old friend I must inform you that if you say you belong to the old school that of republican, that you are one time barking up the wrong tree. The school you belong to was formed in the year of 1816 when the United States bank was chartered by a majority of Federalists in Congress to aid the speculators. Well my old friend, I must quit this banking and come to a close as I wish to write a few lines to Uncle Archibald. I will therefore say to you that I have six bee hives that I think is good for 15 gallons of honey. If you will come over some of these even ings and bring your wife and children, the way that we will kill bees and eat honey, and talk politics, will be just no bodys busi ness but our own, and if you cannot come write us soon as possible and let me know if your faith is as strong as ever. I must now conclude by giving you my best respect and well wishes. I remain your affectionate friend until death Drury Hamilton Ninian Hamilton, Esq. Dear friends and relations: I write a few lines to you to let you know that your friends is all well at this time and nothing particular stirring among them. I received a paper that you sent me--I also read a few lines from you.in Uncle Ninian's letter by which I understood you wished to have a paper sent you from this county. I was very well pleased with the paper you sent me, but as I am taking two papers at this time it would not suit me to exchange, but I will have the paper you want sent on in a short time. You wrote to me that your mind had not changed as to politics, but you did not write what your opinion was. I wish you to write as soon as possible and let me know which faith you are in the old or new--that is whether you are on the same side with Uncle Ninian or not. I must now come to a close for the want of paper, therefore, I must conclude by giving my best love and good will--I remain-your affectionate friend till death. Drury Hamilton Archibald Hamilton

I wrote this for the Andreas Killian list but I feel that it is appropriate for Catawba-West. Surely, we have Killian kin on this list, also. Linda ---------- > From: Linda Hoyle <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Andrew Killian/Susannah Moody > Date: Sunday, January 30, 2000 1:14 AM > > I don't want to be the weather channel but we are receiving freezing rain > AGAIN in Lincoln Co. North Carolina. I always count my blessings by living > here in Lincoln Co. NC close to the long-ago farms and graves of my pioneer > ancestors. I wanted very much today to visit the cemetery at Salem > Lutheran/Reform Ch., Startown Rd. Lincoln Co., where so many of my Killian > ancestors are resting. The cemetery has been covered in snow and ice for > over a week and currently as I write we are receiving an additional layer > of sleet and freezing rain. So I had to settle for index cards that I had > filled out in that beautiful graveyard during a warmer time about a year > ago. I can read the inscriptions on the grave of Andrew Killian s/o Jacob > Killian (s/o John s/o Andreas) & Rebecca Cresamore. It reads born > November 6,1800 died Dec. 20, 1861....61 yr. 1 mo. 24 da.... to Andrew's > right lies his wife Susannah Moody Killian died October 8, 1852 age 50 yr. > 7 mo. 17 da..... THERE REMAINETH THEREFORE A REST TO THE PEOPLE OF GOD > (Susannah's tombstone is lying flat on the ground and broken in half with > the dates of birth unreadable) but fortunately we have the age so we can do > the math) we know the tombstone broke in half and had to be laid flat on > the grave a very long, long time ago.... to Andrew's left the tombstone of > Elizabeth second wife of Andrew born Nov. 6, 1814 died May 4, 1894....Age > 79 y 5 m 29 d BLESSED ARE THEY WHO DIE IN THE LORD. Thank you for sharing > this with me on a very cold and icy winter's night. > > MAKE PLANS NOW TO ATTEND THE THREE DAY ANDREAS KILLIAN REUNION THE SECOND > WEEKEND IN SEPTEMBER,2000. Let the list know you are coming. Linda in Lincoln Co.

Copies of Dr. Hickerson's books are in the Lenoir, NC library, the Hickory, NC library, and Chapel Hill, NC library. Dr. Felix Hickerson was a professor of mathmatics for many years at the University of North Carolina. He taught my father in 1917 there, and retired in Chapel HIll. The books have become quite valuable in rare book stores. Anne ----- Original Message ----- From: Derick S. Hartshorn <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2000 9:57 AM Subject: Re: Local History booklets > At 08:39 PM 1/26/2000 , you wrote: > >Hello, > > > >I have just discovered that there are two local histories that feature > >information about some of my family....one is called "Land of Wilkes" > >and talks about the Martins and Rev Samuel Powell Smith and the > >descendants of Benjamin Jones, etc. > > > >The other history booklet was referred to in "Land of Wilkes" as "Happy > >Valley" ....does anyone know where I might be able to find these books ? > > Happy Valley is in North-Central Caldwell county between the town of > Patterson and the Wilkes county line. The JONES and MARTIN families are > prominently mentioned in "Some Pioneers From Wilkes County, NC" by Mrs. > W.O. Absher. This book can be found in most libraries that have books on > this area. Paper-bound, it is a great reference on the pioneer families. > > --Derick > > > ==== CATAWBA-WEST Mailing List ==== > Your donations to RootsWeb makes CATAWBA-WEST possible. > RootsWeb Gen. Data Coop. Box 6798 Frazier Park, CA 93222 > http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html >

October 18, 1841 Dear Brother and Sister: I now take up my pen to write a few lines to you to inform you that we are all well except my wife. She is not able to be about any, only as she is helped. She has lost the use of her hips very much, and has not walked any by herself for six or seven weeks. It is something like the palsy, her appetite is tolerable good, but still she is getting weak. I will now inform you something of our times in our country. Money is scarce, but we have plenty to live on. our season has generally been very wet--wheat crops was only middling and what was made is generally very much injured with the weevil. Corn crops is good--our fall has been pleasant=-we have had but little frost yet. I will now say something about my family. I am lonesome to what I was when you left this country. My son, Ninian is in the Mississippi. Reuben is in South Carolina a working at the house carpenter trade. James was married on the 5th of August to Miss Levina Laws (Lawz)--he is still with me I will inform you that I received a letter from Wilson Collier yesterday, dated the 4th of September last. He is living in the Missouri, Madison County, near Fredericktown. He states the country is very healthy and everything plenty--and all are well. They have had twenty children, 11 boys and 9 girls--there is six dead, five boys-and one girl. I will inform you that William Bandy and family is well. Also Mr. Bandy informed me that two of David Wilfongs boys had left him and they do not know where they are now. Your step-mother is living with Wishington Miller and is well. I will inform you that I received your letter dated 26th of August, and was very glad to hear from you all, but sorry to hear of the affliction of your little son. You seemed to infer in your letter that you was afraid that politics was about to split us, but in this you are very much mistaken--my friendship to you remains unshaken. It was only neglect, but I will inform you that I did not vote for General Harrison or any of his colleagues, and I feel thankful to my Maker for it and the longer, the more so. I have nothing more to write at this time. I wish you to write to me as soon as convenient--give my best respects to brother Archibald and family and except for yourself the same--so I add no more at present, but remain your loving brother untill death. Reuben Hamilton

At 10:30 PM 1/28/2000 , you wrote: >Thanks, I'm sending off for PIONEERS OF WILKES CO. today. Now, do you know >where I could get a copy of the SLATON family history or the SISK family? No, but you can search and buy and sell on the RootsWeb Mall http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~classifieds/genbbs.cgi/ForSale --Derick

Some of my Hawkins people originally from Prince George and Lunenburg Co., VA, were in Old Tryon Co. for a short time -- just before the NC/SC state lines got moved around and Old Tryon disappeared. They ended up in Greenville, SC - however they never physically moved. <G> Line is Joshua Hawkins > William Eaton Hawkins > Joseph Carter Hawkins, etc. Many descendants of Joshua and son William Eaton are still in the Greenville/Spartanburg SC area - others went to Missouri. Might this be the family you're looking for? Rachel [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "jim hawkins" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2000 3:35 PM Subject: Hawkins Family > Searching information of the Hawkins Families in the surrounding N.C. counties Ceeveland , Gaston , Lincoln , Catawba and old Tryon Co. > Thank You > Jim Hawkins > > ______________________________

Lynn, You have forced me to broaden my education. Up to this time I have not done much with census records and military records. For some reason we did not have to search in that area. I suppose you could say my Mom and Dad were scavengers. They seemed to attempt to keep everything and often it was the junk of others. It seems my children have learned from me and they too keep the junk of others. Because of this I have a book which was discarded by the Meck. County Library where my No. 3 child (male) was employed. Rescued part of the library here. "North Carolina Research Genealogy and History" edited by Helen F. M. Leary and Maurice R. Stirewalt The North Carolina Genealogical Society Raleigh, North Carolina 1980 Chapter 35 on page 417 covers the census records of the United States. It should answer all your questions. On page 420 there is a map of NC showing all the 8 districts for the 1890 Census. Inside the front cover you will find 12 NC state maps covering the development of North Carolina and one map of early Tenn. If you read the entire book you will be smarter than any Geneaologist I have ever met. I even learned from the book why I am always asking for dates. You should be able to find this in a library or you may have your Library request it through Inter-Library Loan. I believe this may answer many questions which have been asked and also help many ask questions that can be answered. The more clues you give to Dick Tracy, the quicker he can find the criminal. Found a copy of the Catawba Soldier that is available. Let me know if you are interested. Pat C. Cloninger Newton, NC