At 03:11 PM 6/21/2000 , you wrote: >Catawba County, NC Query Forum >A new message, "White's in N.C.," was posted by Todd White on Wed, 21 Jun >2000 >Surname: White, Mouser Todd, The White family has been a difficult one to follow as there were half-a-dozen WHITEs within Cabarrus, Lincoln, Tryon, Rutherford; and later, large migrations to bounty land in the Mid-West. I am working on the family of (Capt.?) James White of Long Creek, present day, a little west of Bessemer City. I follow them back to Oxford Twp., Chester Co., PA (on the paternal side) and West Nottingham Twp. ("New Connought") Cecil Co., MD (on the maternal). A John White, who's will was proved 20 June 1775, made 23 May 1772, names sons James, Thomas and Isaac, among others. Thought to have been brothers by several authors of King's Mountain material, Thomas and Isaac arrived in 1779, after James had already bought land, seven years prior. After the War, Thomas took bounty land in Bond Co., Illinois and died there in 1824. Isaac followed his brother to Bond Co., and in 1821, died at the age of sixty-one years. James stayed behind as did most of his line, in Tryon County (est. 1768--he bought land here in 1772), later (1779) Lincoln, later (1846) Gaston Co., in the Long Creek area. This is the James that was a founder of Long Creek Presbyterian Church, in 1780. He is buried in the Long Creek Church cemetery next to his wife, Sarah Mary Givens, daughter of Robert and Lucy (Hartshorn) Givens. Her mother was born about 1720, probably near Norwich, Conn. She is also buried at the Long Creek Cemetery; died in 1815, at the probably age of 95. This marks one of the very early migrations, southward from New England). Lucy Hartshorn, from a long line of Mass.-Conn. Hartshorns was one of the very first female Hartshorns to live in the Deep South. Her son-in-law, James White, MAY have served at King's Mountain but there is no certainty that he is the same one. A second-generation Irishman, apparently this James was the first sheriff of Lincoln County (1779). My work continues and I am still trying to discern the John White "of Oxford Twp." in his will (proved June 1775) reads, in part: Provides for wife Margaret. To son Saml. 15 pounds. To daughter Janet Love 15 pounds. To son James 6 pounds. To son Edward 16 pounds. To son Thomas 16 pounds. To son Isaac 16 pounds. To daughters Sarah and Rebecca their beds and saddles. Remainder equally divided. Executors: John Ross and Thomas Love Wit: David Fleming, Thomas Armstrong, John Black There were other John Whites in Chester Co., just as there have been several James Whites in the same geographical area in North Carolina. I am still beyond documentation as to the James I seek. He is either not the James mentioned in the will, or the possibility that Thomas and Isaac (of King's Mountain fame) are necessarily the ones mentioned in the will. The White and Givens families (PA) and the Hartshorn family (MD) are documented to have intermarried. Sarah Mary (Givens) White had a brother, Jonathan Thomas, who was the Jonathan who appears on a deposed list of soldiers in Capt.Jacob Collins Company at the surrender of Charleston (12 May 1780), dated 14 Oct 1786. He also appears on a list of militia paroled by Lord Cornwallis. The list includes 534 men that were taken prisoner at the battle of Guilford Court House, 15 March 1781. He was the son of Lucy (Hartshorn) Givens, brother to Sarah Mary. Many folks are interested in this project and a mini-list was created. I think this family deserves a web page but other commitments don't leave me with much time. If you have any thoughts on this, or if a formal list could be established, relating to the WHITE families that migrated from PA/MD to NC. I think a lot more material could get out and maybe the "who's who" mystery can be solved. Please write me at Derick S. Hartshorn ([email protected]) >--- >NAME: Todd White >EMAIL: [email protected] >DATE: Jun 21 2000 >URL: http:// >QRYTEXT: JOABERT WHITE and Sarah "Sally" Mouser were married by a bond >dated Jan. 29, 1829 in Lincoln County. Some time later they moved to >Lumpkin Co. GA. Looking for any additional information on the White's in >the area of Catawba Co. North Carolina 1700's to mid 1800's.. > >This is an automatically-generated notice. > ><http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/NC/Catawba?admin>

I found a Catherine Yount who married a John Rissel, they had a daughter Susan Rissel who married a Mr. Miller, children: Mary Ann, Sarah Catherine, and John R. Miller, I am looking for a Sarah Catherine, Does anyone know who this Miller was??? I need you help very much on this one. Thanks

I have recieved numerous request from listers to post some of the wonderful responses I have received in regards to repairing and restoring grave stones. Please be patient.. I will get these posted to the list on Thursday. I hope this sort of thing spreads like wildfire! But I must caution you.. Please check into your local and state laws regarding Cemetery Restoration. Unfortunetly there are laws that prohibit us from restoring what time and vandilism has taken from us! If you disagree with the laws..please, start now writing your State Representive and Congress to have these changed. Get fellow family members, friends, neighbors, Genealogy Socities, Historical Socieities, and anybody else you can think of to bombard your govenment officals with letters. I am on that bandwagon now. If we do not start now, then the thought of what will happen in the future is not a pretty sight. Fortunetly the cemetery that I am concerned with at the moment does not fall into any kind of assistance from the local or state government or through any affiliation with a Church. PLEASE .. DO NOT LET THE CEMETERY RESTORATION LAWS STOP YOU FROM GOING FORWARD. WE MUST STAND TOGETHER TO BRING ON NEW CHANGES IN THE LAWS TO PRESERVE OUR HERITAGE. Vicki Texas BUFF: Burke, Catawba, Lincoln, Rutherford, NC QUILLIN (and various spellings) DelMarVa, Alabama, NC

Much thanks to the many that have responded to my original posting in regards to how to go about repairing broken headstones. The experience, knowledge, and willingness to share that this group of people has always amazes me. You people are primo in my book! I look forward to reading more information and getting a game plan under way! Keep 'em coming! Vicki Texas BUFF: Burke, Cleveland, Catawba, Lincolnton, Rutherford, NC QUILLIN (and various spellings): DelMarVa, Alabama, NC

I made a commitment to myself today, and now I need and kind of advice or help to try to see this thing through. While walking through a the cemetery today where we buried my dad a few weeks ago, it saddened me to see how many "old" grave markers were broken and laying in pieces on the ground. Some of these markers are dated back to the early 1800's. I know for a fact that there are no family members left to tend to some of these markers that are fastly ruining. I have spoken to a couple of funeral homes and all they want to do is sell me new markers! Ha! Something I in no way can even began to afford. Does anybody have any idea what I would use to put these markers back together? Or any suggestions on maybe building a frame to set them back up in? There is no problem going into this particular cemetery and doing this maintance work as far as permission from anybody. I have already checked on that. Some of the broken markers are of my ancestors. I also want to do some preventive measures to insure that this sort of breakage is not going to happen to some of the other old markers that are now beginning to lean. I have enlisted help from some other people to raise the markers and pour concrete under them to level them up. I just need suggestions on how to put some of the broken ones back together. Any ideas or suggestions is greatly appreciated. Vicki Buff Quillan Texas

Robert, Catawba Co Cemeteries Vol 3 page 132 Plateau United Methodist Church Cemetery Row 4 Infant Son of J L & L A Ritchie August 29, 1929 August 29, 1929 Directly above this entry RITCHIE John L. 1889-1963 Lucy S. 1888-1971 Footstone John Lawson Ritchie North Carolina Pvt Co M 120 Inf World War I PH Feb 3, 1889 March 14, 1963 Judie Fite King

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Attention all Miller researchers, Looking for the parents of Sarah Catherine Miller born in the mid 1800's. I know she had to have some somewhere but can't find them? Please if you can help I would appreciate it.

Robert - Sorry but this entry is not liable to be any help, I think the "L.A." Ritchie is the wife of John Lawson Ritchie. The stone reads Ritchie, John L. 1889-1963 and wife Lucy S. 1888-1971 Footstone: John Lawson Ritchie North Carolina pvt Co. M 120 Inf WWI PH Feb 2 1898 March 13, 1962 Another stone: Infant son of JL and LA Ritchie August 29, 1929 died Aug 29 1929. This "A" Could have been misread. >Could I impose on someone to look at Catawba Co. Cemeteries Vol. 3 page >132 for the information on L.A. Ritchie. I believe this is Leander A. >Ritchie/Richie but I have no dates for him. Any info would be >appreciated. Thanks, >Robert Alley > >--------------------------------

Could I impose on someone to look at Catawba Co. Cemeteries Vol. 3 page 132 for the information on L.A. Ritchie. I believe this is Leander A. Ritchie/Richie but I have no dates for him. Any info would be appreciated. Thanks, Robert Alley

My Great Uncle Sidney Leander Yount married Belle Fox, daughter of Rev. Albert J. Fox. He died in 1899 and was born in 1841. They had seven children: Clara ,Lucy, Zeb,Maude, Mrs. George F. Cochran, Floyd and Grace. This Sidney's parents were Franklin A. Yount and Jamima Cline Yount. So it does indeed sound like there were several Sidney Younts! Susan Carpenter

Hi Lynn, Agnes & List, The info. is said to come from a hardback marriage register. And the source just wrote and said that the parents of Sidney Yount who married Martha Little were Peter Moser and Violet Yount. That I mistook their names to be the witnesses. Sorry for my mistake and my lost of a great grandmother. Just have to keep looking. And there has to be another marriage for my Sidney Yount somewhere, if my Sidney Yount married Laura Bolich in 1888 and he had two children, one Vance in 1883 and Lockey L. 1886. Thanks for all the suggestions, Jean Jondreau

Jean, Is it possible that Sidney Yount married Martha Little in 1869 and she died before the 1870 census? Also, it may be interesting to see if anyone can find out who this Violet Yount is (witness to the Sidney Yount-Martha Little marriage). Maybe that would be a clue as to whether there are 2 Sidneys. It is interesting to note that a Little is witness to the Sidney Yount-Laura Bolich marriage. Lastly, did the information about the first marriage come from a marriage register? If so, it may be worthwhile seeing if an actual marriage license was obtained (many were by 1869); if so, it would probably list the parents. (I have some from my ancestors around that time and they do.) (May bo on microfilm at the Archives or Catawba Co. Register of Deeds.) By the way, some of this is posted on Ancestry.com's world tree, so someone else is researching this family too. Their email address is listed. Perhaps they have some primary source verification. Good luck! Lynn Wesson Raleigh, NC

The census records for 1860 do not show Sid Yount with a wife, he is still living with his mother Anna who appears to be widowed by this time. There is no evidence in any census that Sidney Yount was married to a Martha and living in Catawba County. The Sidney who was son of John and Anna continued to live with his mother until after the 1880 census was taken. The 1900 census shows Sidney and wife Laura who have been married 20 years, living with their 6 children, Vance, Lockey, Bessie, Flossy, Lester and Rosie. Which child of Sidney Yount is your ancestor, maybe we can find it going from that name. I think that perhaps Sidney who married Martha Little and Sidney who married Laura Bolich are two different people. These Catawba County marriage records were first published a long time ago, sorry you were not aware of that. Agnes Yount are you reading this and can you help? Agnes Cloninger >Hi List, > The below was sent to me by a very kind person who found this info. >in Raleigh on one of his trip. Sidney Yount is my Great Grandfather and this >Martha Little is my Great grandmother. NO ONE, knew who she was before this. >So now I have a new family to research. Anyone out there related to my Great >Grandmother Martha Little Yount? Please write me. > Thanks, > Jean Jondreau > Nashwauk, MN > >Marriage Records.. > Yount, Sidney married Little, Martha 31 Oct 1869 > Witnesses, Peter Moser-Violet Yount (N/K - Kissie Little) JC Clapp, Min > >Yount, Sidney A(49) married Bolch, Laura(21) 15 Jan 1888 >Parents, John - Anna Yount Joseph - Mahala Bolch, O.F Aberthany Min >witnesses: Q.M. Little, R.P. Lowarance, Jacob Wylckoff, Jr >

Recent information on Alexander Conner Gunn who shows in the 1830 Lincoln Co. NC census. Offered for the record. Info supplied by the "Clan Gunn Society of North America". ----------- Father: Alexander M. Gunn. bn. 1766, Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland. died 8 Aug. 1830 Cass Co., Ga. Mother: Bedy Oak Guyn. bn. 1770, NC. Died 7 Apr. 1845, Cass Co. Ga. Married 13 Sept. 1791, Rowan Co. NC. Children: 1. John McAlister (13 Aug. 1801, NC -- 31 Dec. 1862, NC. md. Mary Moose. 2. Alexander Conner (1804, NC -- d. NC or Ga. md. Marguerite Blackwood 29 Dec. Dec. 1827, Lincoln Co., NC.) 3. Mary Susan (1806, NC. d. unknown). 4. Jane Campbell bn. 11 May, 1811, Fayetteville, NC. - d. 1891, Pope Co. Ark. md. Joshua Allen Hearne, 1831, Lincoln Co. (Son of Moses Hearne (Herron).) 5. May Easter (1816, NC - ??) 6. Eliza bn. 16 Oct, 1823 NC -- 31 Mar 1907, Statesville, Iredell Co., NC. md. James Boone in 1840, Iredell Co. NC. --------- Mike Hearn (Decsend. of Moses Hearne (Herron) Lincoln Co. 1800 - 185?) Merritt Island, Fl.

Hi List, The below was sent to me by a very kind person who found this info. in Raleigh on one of his trip. Sidney Yount is my Great Grandfather and this Martha Little is my Great grandmother. NO ONE, knew who she was before this. So now I have a new family to research. Anyone out there related to my Great Grandmother Martha Little Yount? Please write me. Thanks, Jean Jondreau Nashwauk, MN Marriage Records.. Yount, Sidney married Little, Martha 31 Oct 1869 Witnesses, Peter Moser-Violet Yount (N/K - Kissie Little) JC Clapp, Min Yount, Sidney A(49) married Bolch, Laura(21) 15 Jan 1888 Parents, John - Anna Yount Joseph - Mahala Bolch, O.F Aberthany Min witnesses: Q.M. Little, R.P. Lowarance, Jacob Wylckoff, Jr

Seeking information on Philip Hovis family, neighbors of my Stroup and Queen ancestors, for possible connection. Reiley Kidd Seattle

Looking for the Shook family that was in or around Lincoln. Co in the late 1700's early 1800s. One of them could have married a Henry Dagenhart also. I am looking for a Sally Shook and who her family may have been as well, not necessary the same family of Shooks. Sally was probably born somewhere around 1770 or before. If you can help with information on the Shook/Dagenhart or the Sally Shook Family please contact me. Thanks.

I'm trying to reach a fellow Cloninger researcher, Betsy Abernathy, whom I've lost track of. Last address was in York, SC. Can anyone help?

I would very much appreciate it if someone who is familiar with the Burke Co., NC area could clarify the following. In the early Burke Co., NC land records, there are references to “Warrior Fork of uppermost creek of the three creeks” AND references to “Warrior Fork of Johns River”. According to current maps & gazetteers: “Warrior Fork (Catawba River) is formed in west central Burke County by the junction of Irish and Upper creeks and flows southeast into the Catawba River.” ....... Hence, this would appear to be the Warrior Fork "of uppermost creek of the three creeks". Johns River, lies east of this Warrior Fork and also flows southeast into the Catawba. There does not seem to be any connecting waterway. PUZZLE: Where would land described as on "Warrior Fork of Johns River" be located? Are there (were there) possibly TWO Warrior Forks??? Perhaps one in what is now Caldwell Co.??? My thanks ....... Kay