Hi Dan and List, Sidney Yount is my Great Grandfather, son of John and Anna Pope - Yount. My guess is Sid Yount and Sidney are the same people. I also would like to know why he would sign a Bastardy Bond for an unmarried women? Does this make him the father? As far as I know they are not his sisters. I don't know what connection to the Gant's Sidney was. So who ever can answer your questions I hope can answer mine to. Thanks, Jean Jondreau

Does anyone have information on the following bastardy bonds? 3/1878 Sarra Gant - bondsmen, Sidney Yount, C. F. Connor 3/1879 Lousa Gant - bondsman, Sid Yount, Franklin Campbell Who are the Gant's and Yount's parents? Thank you. Dan Miller

Linda Hoyle, Would you please contact me by email? Thanks, Robert Carpenter

Are there any pictures around of Douthit's Mill or Douthit's Ferry that anyone knows of ? malinda "N. Caskey" wrote: > I just received an old mill photo I think was taken at Laboratory or Southside mill. Possibly around 1920-1930 (just a guess) It contains the names of Whitesides,Carl Cooper,Chick Rhyne,Bill Rhyne,Dick Anthony,Alonzo Rhyne,Craig Ellis,Slim Rhyne,John Kale,Sid Kale,Ed Stamey,Louise Cooper,Cathleen Stamey,Lillie Hoss,Myrtle Arney,Carhleen Kale. If anyone is interested let me know and you can have a copy. > Neal > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > -------------------------- eGroups Sponsor -------------------------~-~> > charlotte.com - win a $5,000 kitchen remodel - enter here > http://click.egroups.com/1/5798/10/_/668323/_/967496682/ > ---------------------------------------------------------------------_-> > > Community email addresses: > Post message: [email protected] > Subscribe: [email protected] > Unsubscribe: [email protected] > List owner: [email protected] > > Shortcut URL to this page: > http://www.onelist.com/community/NCROOTS > A Kinder more Userfriendly Genealogy Comunity

Help, I need information! In 1899 my Mother was baptised by Pastor Arndt who was pastor of Bethel Lutheran Church at Iron Station, NC. I have not been able to find information stating the exact location of such a congregationl. I would appreciate any help that you can offer in locating the exact place where this Church or Congregation met. My Mother attended a Stroup School House which was located on Hovis Family Land just south of the Seaboard Railroad just about one mile south-east of Iron Station, NC. For those who are familiar with the area, this was very near the location of what was a Chicken processing plant in the 1950's and 1960's. When I first looked at my Mothers Baptism Certificate, I was thinking that the Pastor was from Bethel Church near Pasour's Mountain. I had never known that there was a Congregation named Bethel in Iron Station. The reason I think this congregation met at this particular school House is the fact that this was the school house that my Mother walked to for her eitht years of education. I also found a reference in History that perosns of the Baptist Faith were holding services at the Stroup School House. The location was not given. In my early years it seemed that we always went to Mt. Zion Baptist Church, east of Alexis every year for their HOME COMING Service. Now that I have become familiar with History, this must have been done to keep in touch with members of the Phillip Hovis family, expecially the children of his second wife, Delaney "Laney" Stroup. If you have information which shows that this idea is all wrong, Plese let me know. Help confirm my guess or tell me I am wrong. Have a great Day. Pat C. Cloninger Newton, NC.

Reiley, I tried to send a not earlier before I went to Balls Creek CampGround for Lunch with the Setzer-Lineberger Family. There was a computer problem and I did not get the message sent to you. Phillip Hovis married 3 wives. 1. Sarah Carpenter Bond Date: 26 Aug. 1830. Children: Bennet Monroe b. 1831 2. Delaney Stroup Bond date: 6 Jul 1833 Children: Moses, Frances Martha, Laban, Margaret C., Ephraim, Myra. Reiley, sorry I could not get back to you earlier. I will be glad to send you all I have of this family. Tell me what you would like. Pat C. Cloninger Newton, NC 3. Mary. M. Lineberger Married: 29 Feb. 1860 Bond date: 27 Feb. 1860. Children: Mary Blanche Hovis, (This was my grand-mother. The Mother of my Mother. She married Jacob Caswell Plonk. Reiley Kidd wrote: > Who were the parents of Philip Hovis, b. abt. 1806 in NC, who married Delaney Stroup in Lincoln Co., and whose children included Munro, Moses, Martha, Laban, Frances, Philip, and Ephraim? > > Reiley Kidd > Seattle > > ==== CATAWBA-WEST Mailing List ==== > ==== CATAWBA-WEST Mailing List ==== > Sharing info on the region West of the Catawba River, NC > For further info, see http://www.rootsweb.com/~nccatawb/ > Our thanks to RootsWeb for hosting this list and web page

Moses Caleb Hovis married Elizabeth Rhyne on 27 Feb 1823. they had 6 children ,one of which was a Soloman.Not the one you were looking for. John Hovis and Sara Catherine Rhyne had a son, Soloman Hovis born abt 1810,who married Ann Carpenter. Soloman died in N.C. John and Catherine had a son Jacob Hovis,who married Susan Rudisill and had son (1)Soloman Hovis who married Ann Summey and had: Frances,Margaret,Abel,Rose,Selena,John and Emeline. (2)Eli Hovis who married NANCY STROUP ( and others)All of Jacob Hovis`s children except John P. moved toBuckhorn Mo. Original Message ----- From: Reiley Kidd <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2000 8:31 PM Subject: [CATAWBA-WEST] Solomon and Susannah Hovis, Gaston/Lincoln Co., NC > Who was the father of Solomon Hovis, b. abt. 1823 in NC, found on the 1850 federal census in Gaston Co., NC with wife Ann, and children Francis (4M) and G.P. (1M)? > He's next door to Susannah Hovis, apparently a widow, age 60, who may be his mother. > > I'm questioning a relationship between the Hovis family and my Eli Stroup, b. about 1801. > > Thanks, > Reiley Kidd > Seattle > > > > ==== CATAWBA-WEST Mailing List ==== > ==== CATAWBA-WEST Mailing List ==== > Sharing info on the region West of the Catawba River, NC > For further info, see http://www.rootsweb.com/~nccatawb/ > Our thanks to RootsWeb for hosting this list and web page > >

Phillip Hovis was son of (John Hovis ,born about 1768, died Dec 1834),whose father was George B Hovis and mother was Elizabeth Hoyle. Phillip Hovis was son of (Sara Catherine Rhyne born abt. 1760,died before 1830. Her parents were Jacob Rhyne and Elizabeth Glattfelder) All this is on the net: See Hartmans database at >HARTMANS INDEX (includes all RHYNE Descendants of Jacob& Elizabeth Glattfelder) plus All Glattfelder Descendants. & many other related families. >http://midatlantic.rootsweb.com/database/persons.htm< Try these also http://midatlantic.rootsweb.com/familyhart/glatfeld.html< The Glatfelder Story by Hartman. > http://midatlantic.rootsweb.com/database/d0027/g0000023.htm#I93954<direct to JACOB RHYNE Sr. > http://midatlantic.rootsweb.com/familyhart/rheinfaq.html<introduction to the Rhyne Story by Hartman. >http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/GlattfelderBios?read =14< Biography of BARTHEL REINAU by Howard Rhyne >http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/GlattfelderBios?read =19< Biography of MARTIN REINAU (Sr.) by Howard Rhyne >http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/GlattfelderBios?read =30< Biography of MARTIN REINAU (Jr.) by Howard Rhyne >http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/GlattfelderBios?read =24< Biography of JACOB REINAU( aka Jacob Rhein in York Pa)( aka Jacob Rhyne 1st. in N.C.) By Howard Rhyne ----- Original Message ----- From: Reiley Kidd <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2000 8:42 PM Subject: [CATAWBA-WEST] Philip Hovis of Lincoln Co., NC > Who were the parents of Philip Hovis, b. abt. 1806 in NC, who married Delaney Stroup in Lincoln Co., and whose children included Munro, Moses, Martha, Laban, Frances, Philip, and Ephraim? > > Reiley Kidd > Seattle > > > > ==== CATAWBA-WEST Mailing List ==== > ==== CATAWBA-WEST Mailing List ==== > Sharing info on the region West of the Catawba River, NC > For further info, see http://www.rootsweb.com/~nccatawb/ > Our thanks to RootsWeb for hosting this list and web page > >

Who were the parents of Philip Hovis, b. abt. 1806 in NC, who married Delaney Stroup in Lincoln Co., and whose children included Munro, Moses, Martha, Laban, Frances, Philip, and Ephraim? Reiley Kidd Seattle

Who was the father of Solomon Hovis, b. abt. 1823 in NC, found on the 1850 federal census in Gaston Co., NC with wife Ann, and children Francis (4M) and G.P. (1M)? He's next door to Susannah Hovis, apparently a widow, age 60, who may be his mother. I'm questioning a relationship between the Hovis family and my Eli Stroup, b. about 1801. Thanks, Reiley Kidd Seattle

Hello Don, Would you give us that question again, I am not able to understand you. When you say detail do you mean you want to know about the cemetaries or do you need all of the extracts for the Lail entries. I did not know that they were in the Gen Soc publication, I have them in the form of 8 seperate books that were published over a long period of time and are still available for purchase from them - Contact Catawba County Gen Society, P. O. Box 2406, Hickory, NC 18603. They cost $15.00 each plus $2.00 postage. If you buy them all at once that postage cost may be different. If you write to them for info please send a stamped self addressed envelope if you expect a reply. (Most Societies are no long answering queries that do not include such an envelope) As far as a CD is concerned, great idea - perhaps you should do that..... but if you do or if anyone does please don't forget all of us who use a MAC and so need to be able to make use of it also. Where are the St. John's records and have they been microfilmed? Making copies from a microfilm is not difficult and if the LDS have filmed those records as they have so many others, they should be available at any Family History Center. AEC >------------------------------ >From: "J. D. Lail" <[email protected]> >Howdy Folks. I have two questions. > >1) I have a need for the Catawba Gen/Hist magazine/s that had > all of the cemetary info in them. I am aware of the on line > index. What I need is the detail. If this is not available > on CD I am suggesting that it might be worthwhile for someone > to look into it. There are literaly 100's of Lail's, Laels, @ > Lagles, and sundry other varaiants to deal with and I am not > going to ask someone to get this info as favor. If someone > has another idea I am all ears. > >2) My research is being being roadblocked to a great degree by > the lack of a translation for the St. Johns Lutheran pastorate > records. In my case there is no other way* to establish what we > need to establish without it. Is this a problem for anyone else ? > Is there anything we can do about it ? > >Thanks >Don Lail > >*nothing has turned up since we started looking in 1976 > >--------------------------------

Hi again...I just found it at http://mapping.usgs.gov/www/gnis/gnisform.html using the name Cold Water Creek using "stream" as the feature type http://mapping.usgs.gov:8888/gnis/owa/gnisprod?f_name=Cold+Water+Creek&variant=N&f_state=NC&f_cnty=&f_type=stream&pop1=&pop2=&elev1=&elev2=&cell=&tab=y It produced 2 hits (different counties).....enjoy, malinda nancy erb wrote: > I have also been interested in how to find small creeks mentioned in the older deeds and warrants. In my researching of this subject, I came across > 'Retracing the trails of Your Ancestors Using Deed Records' by William Dollarhide. There is a section in this paper on the need to get a USGS (7.5 series) > Topographic map of the area that shows watercourses. It was suggested to call the United States Geological Survey map information/order line at > 1-888-ASKUSGS. They will send you a brochure of maps that are available for order. I've gotten this far myself, but have not yet ordered the topographic > map. Maybe this will help you. For the web-site with the Dollarhide article go to http://www.ultranet.com/~deeds/deeds.htm > > Good Luck, > Nancy Orr Erb, Michigan > Researching Alexander Orr (b 1750) Tryon/Rutherford Co NC > > ==== CATAWBA-WEST Mailing List ====

You can also go to the USGS website at : http://mapping.usgs.gov/www/gnis/gnisform.html Type in feature name etc in the boxes and away you go...they've got maps that you can download . You can also zoom in and out and print a series. They also give you the choice of going to Tiger topozone maps. I found my ancestral VA swamps in there Enjoy...malinda nancy erb wrote: > I have also been interested in how to find small creeks mentioned in the older deeds and warrants. In my researching of this subject, I came across > 'Retracing the trails of Your Ancestors Using Deed Records' by William Dollarhide. There is a section in this paper on the need to get a USGS (7.5 series) > Topographic map of the area that shows watercourses. It was suggested to call the United States Geological Survey map information/order line at > 1-888-ASKUSGS. They will send you a brochure of maps that are available for order. I've gotten this far myself, but have not yet ordered the topographic > map. Maybe this will help you. For the web-site with the Dollarhide article go to http://www.ultranet.com/~deeds/deeds.htm > > Good Luck, > Nancy Orr Erb, Michigan > Researching Alexander Orr (b 1750) Tryon/Rutherford Co NC > > ==== CATAWBA-WEST Mailing List ====

William S. Powell, "The North Carolina Gazetteer," (UNC Press: 1968) Coldass Creek rises in nw Caldwell County and flows east into Johns River. Both this and Pinchgut Creek were named by two men hunting in the area . . . Sometimes shown as Cold Water Creek on modern maps. [The two men are not named.]

I have also been interested in how to find small creeks mentioned in the older deeds and warrants. In my researching of this subject, I came across 'Retracing the trails of Your Ancestors Using Deed Records' by William Dollarhide. There is a section in this paper on the need to get a USGS (7.5 series) Topographic map of the area that shows watercourses. It was suggested to call the United States Geological Survey map information/order line at 1-888-ASKUSGS. They will send you a brochure of maps that are available for order. I've gotten this far myself, but have not yet ordered the topographic map. Maybe this will help you. For the web-site with the Dollarhide article go to http://www.ultranet.com/~deeds/deeds.htm Good Luck, Nancy Orr Erb, Michigan Researching Alexander Orr (b 1750) Tryon/Rutherford Co NC

"The North Carolina Gazetteer" by William S. Powell states "Coldass Creek rises in nw Caldwell County and flows e into Johns River. Both this and Pinchgut Creek were named by two men hunting in the area. They followed a stream until it came to a fork. There they separated, each following one of the forks, and agreed to meet later and name each stream according to their feelings toward it. One man carried the food and the other the sleeping equipment. They became lost, but finally met the next day when they gave the two names to the creeks. Sometimes shown as Cold Water Creek on modern maps." The same book lists thirteen Bear Branches but none of them is in Caldwell County. Jim Campbell

At 06:41 PM 08/22/2000 -0400, Vicki asked: >Does anybody have any idea if there is a web site or how I would go about >finding out what historical markers there are in Burke, Cleveland, Catawba, >Lincoln, and Rutherford counites? The NC Archives has a website which talks about the historical markers. There's also a link on this page to more information about ordering a pamphlet listing all the markers. http://www.ah.dcr.state.nc.us/sections/do/r/ Hope this helps.... Peace, Part of the Tree, Greg

Vickie, I went to www.infoseek.com In the search engine I put in North Carolina, Burke County, Historical Markers It brought up many sites....some had nothing to do with it...some did....That is how I find most of what I am searching for. Winnette ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2000 6:41 PM Subject: [NCLINCOLN] Historical Markers Does anybody have any idea if there is a web site or how I would go about finding out what historical markers there are in Burke, Cleveland, Catawba, Lincoln, and Rutherford counites? Thanks in advance. Vicki Buff Quillin BUFF, SWOFFORD, HOYLE, WORTMAN, WORKMAN, SAIN ==== NCLINCOL Mailing List ==== ==== LINCOLN Co., NC Mailing List ==== Sharing information on Historic Lincoln Co., NC For further info, see www.rootsweb.com/~nclincol/nclincoln.htm Our thanks to RootsWeb for hosting this list and web page

Does anybody have any idea if there is a web site or how I would go about finding out what historical markers there are in Burke, Cleveland, Catawba, Lincoln, and Rutherford counites? Thanks in advance. Vicki Buff Quillin BUFF, SWOFFORD, HOYLE, WORTMAN, WORKMAN, SAIN

Can you believe I spent about 1 and half hours trying to find out about your creeks in Burke Co NC......I found all sort of things but not those particular creeks......I was intrigued. Now I am impressed to know how many ways the word creek is used. Winnette These two sites were informative. Just not what you wanted.... http://www.wnctrout.com/burke.htm http://www.springville.com/fcp/project1.htm