Can someone help Alta M. Durden? I am not familiar with the book by Neal Caskey "Reynolds of Indian Creek". Linda B. Hoyle From: AltaMDurden@aol.com To: lbarkley@charter.net Cc: Wmosley61@wmconnect.com Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2003 10:00 PM Subject: Reynolds of Indian Creek Dear Linda: Please help me find a copy of a book published by Neal Caskey. It is entitled, "Reynolds of Indian Creek", but is not in either the Gaston or Lincoln County Libraries. I have spoken with Mr. Graham at the Lincoln County Library about this (in the not too distant past) and he could not locate a copy for me. I know it exists because I had one at one time (but do not have it now). Mr. Caskey died not too long ago and it seems his widow does not have any copies of the book that are for sale. Do you suppose anyone that you know who is associated with getting the second volume of the Lincoln County Heritage book together could find a copy for us? Or if his publishing company might still have a copy to sell? I don't know the name of his publishing company (which I understand is no longer in business now that Mr. Caskey is dead). That may or may not be correct. Maybe someone in the local genealogical society might help find one. Please forward this request to the Lincoln! County webpage and someone on there might have a copy they'd be willing to sell. Thank you. Alta Mitchem Durden

Alta M. Durden wrote: > Dear Linda: > > Please help me find a copy of a book published by Neal Caskey. > It is entitled, "Reynolds of Indian Creek"... Alta, and others: Maybe you have already seen this web site, which lists a number of books available through Neal Caskey. I haven't pursued the links there to see if they are still active, but there might be some links that will help you find a copy of the book. http://lincolnpress.tripod.com/ Mac Hayes

Z.A. Moss (Motz) is the marriage bondsman for the 24 July 1856 Lincoln Co. marriage of John Linebarger and Nancy Hobbs. Z.A. Moss was married to Virginia B. Slade with 25 May 1852 Lincoln Co. marriage bond. Is the name Moss or Motz? Can anyone tell me if he is related to Sion/Zion Moss who appears in the 1850 Census of Gaston County, with wife Dovie and children Andrew, Violet, Ritta, Dicy, Pinkney L., James, and Polly A. His son Andrew Moss married Margaret Jenkins, dau. of Harrison Jenkins & Sarah Kiser, and sister to my gr-gr-grandmother, Catherine Jenkins Spencer. Our Kin, p. 512, gives children of Andrew and Margaret Moss: Sarah Moss mar. Joseph Smith, and Mary A. Moss mar. William Hammitt. Thank you for any help you can offer. Agnes Yount ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!

Mike, I trust you won't mind if I share your post with the lists. ALL families in and around the six counties forming the "West of the Catawba" are cordially invited to post their reunion plans on the Calendar page: http://resources.rootsweb.com/~calendar/cgi-bin/calendar.cgi?calname=Catawba_Valley_Happenings Please feel free to post any reunion or event happening. If the announcement involves planning, I'll be pleased to add it to the W-ot-C page: http://www.rootsweb.com/~nccatawb/catwest.htm#announce There is already a MOSER list. For more details, and how to subscribe, see: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/m/moser.html Here are the tools y'all, PLEASE use 'em !!! --Derick ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael S Moser To: Derick Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2003 12:01 PM Subject: Reunion Announcement Good morning Derick! I have a small request to ask of you. Ernie Stewart, ernie@tracksintime.com, is attempting to generate enough interest to plan a MOSER family reunion in Catawba County in 2004. He has created a bulletin board, http://b4.boards2go.com/boards/board.cgi?user=ernstewart , for posting messages and sharing ideas. Is it possible to place an announcement and link on the West of the Catawba website? Also, is an announcement of this sort suitable for posting on the Rootsweb mailing lists? If so, I would like to put something out there to subscribers. Just trying my best to get the word out to everyone including those who aren't from the Catawba area. Thanks so much for your help, Michael Moser from California

Interesting information you have sent. I have Daniel Hallman b January, 19, 1803 and died January 13, 1891. One of his wives Mary Lorentz (???) b October 5, 1801 and died November 18,1842. He married her February 5, 1824. His second wife was Sally and I have no further information on her. I have a Mary Lorentz who's father was Andrew H. Lorentz b about 1763 and died March 31, 1812 he married Elizabeth Ramsour b around 1787 and died around 1833 or later. 1788 - Andrew Loretz came west of the Catawba after arriving in Pennsylvania from Switzerland where he was a member of the German Reformed Church. 1789 - Pastor Loretz was ordained and began serving the German Reformed Congregations in the area. These were the Congregations that met in the Union Meeting Houses throughout the area. 1812 - March 31, Rev. Andrew Loretz died at the age of 59 and was buried at Daniels Church four miles north-west of Lincolnton with members of his family. Andrew H. Lorentz's father was Andrew Von Lorentz but little other information. He had Andrew H and a Daughter Mary Von Lorentz. Most of my information was picked up as collaterial information from my Ramsour, Whitner, Roney/Rhoney, Summerow, Hallman, etc., files in searching for my wife's family Rhoney. Just thought I would get your input on these names, but you have indicated you thought the spelling was different. Most of these families came out of Pennsylvania after emmigrating from Europe. They then travelled down to North Carolina and settled in the Lincolnton area of North Carolina. ray taylor tnemelcy@wk.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jan Williams" <jxwilliams@earthlink.net> To: <CATAWBA-WEST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 06, 2003 5:35 PM Subject: [CATAWBA-WEST] Re: CATAWBA-WEST-D Digest V03 #83 > > > I'm descended from Daniel Hallman (b 1803) and have other info about him > that is partially different from what appeared here and in other places. > This is what I've found: > > His first wife was Mary Lontz, a daughter of George and Susannah Lontz. > (The marriage bond may look like Mary's name was Loretz but if you compare > it with real Loretz documents from that time, you can see the difference. > Also, the estate settlement for George includes info naming Daniel and Mary > Hallman among his heirs. Third, their daughter Mary Catherine's death > certificate gives her mother's maiden name as "Luntz.") > > His second wife was Sarah Keener. The estate settlement for Michael Keener > mentions Daniel and Sarah Hallman several times. > > His will does list his children who lived to adulthood. Laban is not > included so I would be interested in documentation connecting him to this > Daniel. (His will indicates that he was married only twice--I know this > wouldn't rule out Laban from another earlier relationship.) There was no > Vilecta as far as I can tell -- this was a misunderstanding of the > "Southern" pronunciation of Phylector. He had at least two other children > from his second marriage who died young. > > I have additional info about his children if you're interested. > > Jan > > > ==== CATAWBA-WEST Mailing List ==== > ==== CATAWBA-WEST Mailing List ==== > Sharing info on the region West of the Catawba River, NC > For further info, see http://www.rootsweb.com/~nccatawb/ > Our thanks to RootsWeb for hosting this list and web page >

> I'm descended from Daniel Hallman (b 1803) and have other info about him that is partially different from what appeared here and in other places. This is what I've found: His first wife was Mary Lontz, a daughter of George and Susannah Lontz. (The marriage bond may look like Mary's name was Loretz but if you compare it with real Loretz documents from that time, you can see the difference. Also, the estate settlement for George includes info naming Daniel and Mary Hallman among his heirs. Third, their daughter Mary Catherine's death certificate gives her mother's maiden name as "Luntz.") His second wife was Sarah Keener. The estate settlement for Michael Keener mentions Daniel and Sarah Hallman several times. His will does list his children who lived to adulthood. Laban is not included so I would be interested in documentation connecting him to this Daniel. (His will indicates that he was married only twice--I know this wouldn't rule out Laban from another earlier relationship.) There was no Vilecta as far as I can tell -- this was a misunderstanding of the "Southern" pronunciation of Phylector. He had at least two other children from his second marriage who died young. I have additional info about his children if you're interested. Jan

Island Ford road, according to the old RA Yoder map (1886) ran from Lincoln County to the Catawba River. The portion if Island Ford road, near Maiden is probably the current US 321). St. Matthews church is about 1/2 mile into Lincoln. On your Daniel Hallmans, you state: "One was born c1796, and probably died before 1880." That would be the Hallman who married 1. Daniel HALLMAN. Daniel HALLMAN and Sally CLINE were married in 1818. Sally CLINE (daughter of Jacob CLINE and Catherine Elizabeth WILFONG) was born in Lincoln County, North Carolina. They had the following children: 2 i. Noah HALLMAN. +3 ii. Laban HALLMAN. 4 iii. Vardrie HALLMAN died in Civil war. 5 iv. Elkanah HALLMAN died in Civil war. +6 v. Ephraim HALLMAN. 7 vi. Calvin HALLMAN. 8 vii. Hosae HALLMAN died in South Carolina. 9 viii. Lizzie HALLMAN. The other Daniel Hallman: 1. Daniel HALLMAN was born on 19 Jan 1803. He died on 13 Jan 1891. He was buried in St. Matthew's United Methodist Church, Lincoln Co., NC. Will dated June 1888 and probated 20 Jan 1891, lists children by wife and also states to include illegitimate child of daughter Vilecta. [WB 4-450.] Daniel HALLMAN (son of Henry Hallman, Jr. and Rachel Warlick) and Mary LORETZ were married on 5 Feb 1824. Mary LORETZ was born on 5 Oct 1801. She died on 18 Nov 1842. Daniel HALLMAN and Mary LORETZ had the following children: +2 i. Laban HALLMAN (born on 20 Sep 1823). +3 ii. Elenora HALLMAN (born in 1824). +4 iii. Elmira HALLMAN (born about 1828). +5 iv. Andrew HALLMAN. +6 v. Abel HALLMAN (born on 10 Feb 1832). +7 vi. Fylector HALLMAN (born on 24 Jun 1834). +8 vii. Michael HALLMAN. +9 viii. Mary Catharine HALLMAN (born about 1838). +10 ix. Martha Emeline HALLMAN (born about 1842). Daniel HALLMAN and Sarah "Sally" (_unk_) were married. They had the following children: +11 i. Margaret HALLMAN (born on 6 Jun 1847). +12 ii. Frances HALLMAN (born in 1849). St. Matthews lists Daniel and wife: Mary, Consort of Daniel Hallman 1801 Illegible Daniel Hallman 19 January 1803 13 January 1891 87y 11m 24d Good luck, --Derick ---- Original Message ----- From: "Nancy Cason" <nancason@comcast.net> To: "Derick Hartshorn" <derickh@charter.net> Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2003 1:48 PM Subject: Re: [CATAWBA-WEST] Land description > Thanks, Derick. That would fit in with other information I have. Couple of > questions: Is St. Matthew's church in Maiden? Also, what (modern) road do > you think this might be? Was the "Island Ford" over the Catawba River, or > over one of the creeks, such as Clarks Creek? This location was mentioned > in a will, and no metes and bounds were given. Another deed specifies land > at the confluence of Clarks Creek and Lockharts Creek. (I have metes and > bounds for it.) Any ideas where this is? I think it is in the same area > as the parcel on the Island ford road -could even be the same parcel. I > have a modern map (1993) for Lincoln Co., but not for Catawba Co. Guess I > need to get one of my cousins to send me one. I have ordered the 1886 Yoder > Map from the Catawba Co. Historical Association. > > What I am trying to untangle is this: There were two Daniel Hallmans of > almost the same age. One was born c1796, and probably died before 1880. > The other one was b. 1803 and died 1891. (He's buried at St. Matthews) One > was the son of Henry Hallman Jr., and the other one was the son of Anthony > Hallman. I am a descendant of Anthony Hallman through his son Jacob. Just > trying to figure out which of the Daniels belonged in this family group. I > believe the Daniel buried at St. Matthews is the son of Henry Jr. and owned > the property on the Island Ford road. However, to make matters worse, > Anthony's land was in the same area and HIS son Daniel inherited a portion > of it. And Wiley Hallman, Henry Jr.'s son and brother to one of the > Daniels, had property adjoining Anthony's! I have DeedMapper and just > beginning to enter the deeds I have. Wish me luck! > Thanks so much for your help. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Derick Hartshorn" <derickh@charter.net> > To: "Nancy Cason" <nancason@comcast.net> > Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2003 11:47 AM > Subject: Re: [CATAWBA-WEST] Land description > > > > Sounds to me like it is just over the Lincoln County line, S. of Maiden. > > > > --Derick > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Nancy Cason" <nancason@comcast.net> > > To: <CATAWBA-WEST-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2003 12:11 PM > > Subject: [CATAWBA-WEST] Land description > > > > > > > Hello all: > > > I have a will which gives the following land description: "my home > > > place...lies on the Island ford road at the six mile post, just before > > > Matthews's church." Can anyone pinpoint this location on a modern map > for > > > me? I do not live in the area, so need a little help knowing where this > > is. > > > A cousin once took me to St. Matthew's church on a cemetery research > > outing, > > > but I don't remember where we were! Thanks a million. > > > Nancy Cason, Texas > > > > > > > > > ==== CATAWBA-WEST Mailing List ==== > > > ==== CATAWBA-WEST Mailing List ==== > > > Sharing info on the region West of the Catawba River, NC > > > For further info, see http://www.rootsweb.com/~nccatawb/ > > > Our thanks to RootsWeb for hosting this list and web page > > > > > > > > > > > >

Hello all: I have a will which gives the following land description: "my home place...lies on the Island ford road at the six mile post, just before Matthews's church." Can anyone pinpoint this location on a modern map for me? I do not live in the area, so need a little help knowing where this is. A cousin once took me to St. Matthew's church on a cemetery research outing, but I don't remember where we were! Thanks a million. Nancy Cason, Texas

Here's what I show in my files: First Generation 1. John MCGEE was born on 3 Feb 1789 in Mecklenburg County, NC. The 1850 Catawba Co. NC census lists John McGee's birth place as Mecklenburg Co., North Carolina . The Wendell Miller History gives place of birth as "Tennessee" as does the 1880 Catawba Co., NC census of his son, Daniel. Mecklenburg is the most likely spot thouge some records quote the Ciscero Cline "Cline Genealogy" claiming that John came from Guilford Co., about 1835. This can not be proven. He appeared in the census in 1850 in Catawba County, North Carolina. and is listed as: 32/32 John McGee, (61), Farmer, real prop., $250, b. Mecklenburg, with Fanny (57), b. Catawba; Malinda (17); Noah (11). He appeared in the census in 1860 in Catawba Co. (Newton Twp.), North Carolina. and was living with his daughter, Mary Herman, wife of Henry Herman and their family. He is listed as age 71 at the time. He appeared in the census in 1870 in Catawba Co. (Newton Twp.), North Carolina. and was still living in the household of Henry Herman in 1870, the last census in which he would appear. He died on 5 Mar 1878 in Catawba County, North Carolina. He was buried in Old St. Paul's Lutheran Church Cemetery, Newton, NC. Surname spelled "Megee" on gravestone. Other references have provided the variation of "Magee," with "McGee" being the generally accepted spelling. The stone is in remarkable shape and is close to the Conover-Startown highway, at Old St. Paul's. John is mentioned in the will of Christopher Decker (signed 8 Apr 1807) as the "grandson whom I have raised". His son, Michael, was married to Christina Deal. What the exact relationship is can not be determined from existing records. He married Peggy [2] Deal daughter of Jacob and Margaret [3] Deal and lived on land which is now known as North Newton. He was a blacksmith and gunsmith by trade and was said to be able to make a rifle from scratch. John Megee, together with Mathias Setzer and Jacob Deel, sold to Catawba county, for the token sum of $1.00, portions of their lands for the construction of a court house and jail. (Catawba Co. Deedbook 1:53-55) He had three sons and six daughters: Jacob, Daniel, Noah, Polly, Margaret, Mary, Rhoda, Linnie, and Rosanna. He was not very prosperous and due to poor management, had laid up nothing for his old age. He became a widower and shortly afterward he made his home with his son-in-law, Henry Herman, who had married his daughter, Mary. He had a blacksmith shop and worked on guns until he became too feeble to work. John spent his last years in the home of his daughter and son-in-law, Peter Herman. He could hardly walk, but would go about in the neighborhood, walking in short steps He finally became bedfast and died at the age of 91 years, l month and 2 days. John MCGEE and Elizabeth "Peggy" DEAL were married about 1811. James T. Miller ("Descendants of Wendel Miller", 1930) says he was married to "Fannie" Deal. This may be attributed to a flawed account given by Mrs. Glenn Oliver of Howard, Kansas. The same source, above, says Fannie was the daughter of Jennie Deal. This claim has no basis in fact. Elizabeth "Peggy" DEAL (daughter of Jacob [Diehl] I DEAL and Margaret ROSMAN) was born about 1783. She was born about 1791. She died before 1860. Some accounts give her name as Fannie (Mrs. Glenn [Rebecca] Oliver of Howard, Kansas). Her lineage account is frought with problems, however. "The DEAL-STAFFORD Genealogy" (Rom C. Deal, 1939) claims Peggy, who married John McGee, was the dau. of immigrant, Wilhelm Diehl, husband of Susanna Icard. Due to time frames, this is very difficult to substantiate. Wilhelm (William) Diehl was more likely the son of Wilhelm Diehl, the immigrant who married an unknown wife (said by some to be Sarah Cosbie). This William is claimed by Clara Shook (Mrs. Jack Shook of Taylorsville, NC) to have had only one child, a daughter, Christina, who married Michael Decker. Michael's father, Christopher Decker, in his will dated 8 Apr 1807, mentions John McGee, as "my grandson whom I have raised". A deed (Lincoln Co., April 1812 session) from George Diehl (husb. of Mary Bowman) to John McGee refers to the land as "belonging to the heirs of his (George's) Father, Jacob Deal, Dec'd". It is likely that John McGee and his wife, who no doubt was a Deal, daughter of Jacob, were living on the homeplace, which is the obvious reason the heirs sold property to him and could also explain why the transactions were spread over a period of years (Lincoln Co Book 29, p. 691, 28 Oct 1820; Book 33, p. 182, 6 Feb 1828; Book 36, p. 620, 12 Jan 1836). John MCGEE and Elizabeth "Peggy" DEAL had the following children: +2 i. Polly MCGEE (born on 10 Jan 1812). +3 ii. Margaret "Peggy" MCGEE (born on 27 Nov 1815). +4 iii. Daniel D. MCGEE (born about Nov 1825). +5 iv. Mary "Polly" MCGEE (born on 27 Nov 1813). +6 v. Jacob MCGEE (born on 1 Apr 1818). +7 vi. Rhoda A. MCGEE (born about 1816). +8 vii. Rosanah MCGEE (born about 1827). +9 viii. Malinda "Linnie" MCGEE (born about 1833). +10 ix. Noah Henry MCGEE (born on 12 Jul 1838). ----- Original Message ----- From: "Agnes" <agnesec@cableone.net> To: <CATAWBA-WEST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 03, 2003 3:07 PM Subject: [CATAWBA-WEST] Re: McGee Deal > Does anyone have any information about the family of Christopher Decker who > wrote this in his will dated April 1807: > "John McGee the grandson whom I have raised" > or anything about this relationship between Christopher Decker and John > McGee. > There was a Christiana Deal who married Michael Decker in 1798 - is there > any connection between Michael and Christopher or between Christiana the > Fanny aka Peggy Deal who married John McGee. This Fanny/Peggy was the > daughter of Jacob Deal and his wife Margaret, but they do not appear to have > had a daughter Christiana. > There were only a jillion Deal families by various spellings in the area at > the time, sorting them out will give a person a headache. > > Thank you, > Agnes Cloninger > > > ==== CATAWBA-WEST Mailing List ==== > ==== CATAWBA-WEST Mailing List ==== > Sharing info on the region West of the Catawba River, NC > For further info, see http://www.rootsweb.com/~nccatawb/ > Our thanks to RootsWeb for hosting this list and web page > >

Does anyone have any information about the family of Christopher Decker who wrote this in his will dated April 1807: "John McGee the grandson whom I have raised" or anything about this relationship between Christopher Decker and John McGee. There was a Christiana Deal who married Michael Decker in 1798 - is there any connection between Michael and Christopher or between Christiana the Fanny aka Peggy Deal who married John McGee. This Fanny/Peggy was the daughter of Jacob Deal and his wife Margaret, but they do not appear to have had a daughter Christiana. There were only a jillion Deal families by various spellings in the area at the time, sorting them out will give a person a headache. Thank you, Agnes Cloninger

Emma K. Sigmon b. 5-31-1863 daughter of Elijah Sigmon and Linnie McGee Sigmon. Only known spouse was John Heavner of Lincolnton NC. they lived around Vale NC. Emma and John had two daughters Hattie Lee Heavner who married Clarence Lynn and Etta Jane Heavner who married Crouse Baxter. Emma also had four children between 1880 and 1886 by ? Johnson. These children were Jakie Johnson Perry Clingman Johnson Katherine Ann Johnson and Ellie Mae Johnson. Does anyone have any information on Emma Sigmon? Thanks to all Wanda

Dear Friends - I will be unsubscribing from the various lists I belong to for the next few weeks due to making a move from California to Kentucky. This will be temporary and I will be rejoining the lists - but I want to thank the many of you who have given so much of your time to help others and myself. I will miss the many e-mails each day that have been so filled with good advice and help and look forward to getting back online soon. Nancy Giles

----- Original Message ----- From: "Derick Hartshorn" <derickh@charter.net> To: <CATAWBA-WEST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2003 4:14 PM Subject: Re: [CATAWBA-WEST] CATAWBA-WEST] Absalom Brown help needed > > I made a mistake when typing Absalom Brown's birth date, it should have > been > > 1792. Any and all help appreciated. > > Shirley > > Hi Shirley, > > Here's all I can provide. > > Salem Lutheran And Reformed Church Cemetery: > Absalom Brown - 1 April 1792-11 Oct 1875, 83y 6m 10d > > Appears in 1840 census of Lincoln County. Absolum and family appear in the > Upper Regiment Militia Division [present Catawba County] > > > Brown, Absalom; Killian, Elizabeth; Christopher ------; 25 (?) Oct > 1814; ------ Cline [probably Michael Cline] > [Curtis Bynum, Marriage Bonds of Tryon & Lincoln Counties, North Carolina , > pg. 23; 1929 (reprinted, 1962, Catawba Co. Hist. Assn.) > > > > > > ==== CATAWBA-WEST Mailing List ==== > ==== CATAWBA-WEST Mailing List ==== > Sharing info on the region West of the Catawba River, NC > For further info, see http://www.rootsweb.com/~nccatawb/ > Our thanks to RootsWeb for hosting this list and web page > >

> I made a mistake when typing Absalom Brown's birth date, it should have been > 1792. Any and all help appreciated. > Shirley Hi Shirley, Here's all I can provide. Salem Lutheran And Reformed Church Cemetery: Absalom Brown - 1 April 1792-11 Oct 1875, 83y 6m 10d Appears in 1840 census of Lincoln County. Absolum and family appear in the Upper Regiment Militia Division [present Catawba County] Brown, Absalom; Killian, Elizabeth; Christopher ------; 25 (?) Oct 1814; ------ Cline [probably Michael Cline] [Curtis Bynum, Marriage Bonds of Tryon & Lincoln Counties, North Carolina , pg. 23; 1929 (reprinted, 1962, Catawba Co. Hist. Assn.)

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I posed this question: <From the 1850 census of Catawba Co., NC, family 899: John BOLCH 63, Christina 62, Christina 31, Sarah 31, William 9. Is this John the son of Sebastian? Are Christina and Sarah twins or is one a daughter-in-law?> I think I have an answer: Absolom BOLCH was the son of John BOLCH. Absolom died about 1842. He was married to a Sarah. They had a son William. Sarah and William are living with John in the 1850 census. So now I have to change the question: Was Sarah a MILLER before their marriage? In the Fall term 1843 Ephraim MILLER was appointed guardian of William (with David MILLER as security). In Oct 1850 (Catawba Court) Daniel MILLER became the guardian. I have seen Absolom listed as a son of Adam BOLCH, Jr. (b1755). That is an error. He was a son of John and (I think) grandson of Sebastian. The Lincoln Co. estate settlement papers for Absolom BOLICK 1842 names his widow --it looked like "Saloh" but was very unreadable ( I did not get a copy). David MILLER was named administrator. These folks came to the estate sale: Hiram BOLICK, Casper BOLICK, John BOLICK, David BOLCH, Sebastian BOLCH, Andrew BOLCH, Ambrose MILLER, William TURNER Any comments? Thanks for reading these and for comparing these to your data. I apologize for these tedious questions, but I want to sort out the children of Adam BOLCH, Jr. (b1755) Ida Deal

Ida In Catawba County NC Will book 1 abstracts by Elizabeth Bray Sherrill this appears Will of Adam Bolch dated 15 April 1845: Of sound memory. To son Hiram Bolch, the plantation. To all his children, an equal share of monies arisen out of the sale of all personal estate not disposed of at his death. Executors: Sons, Hiram and Joseph Bolch. Witnesses: Henry Cline and Noah "x" Yount. Adam signed his will with an "O" This could be the Joseph below. Notations in the Catawba County Court of Pleas and Quarter Sessions June Session 1845 read Deed from Joseph Wilson and William Sigman to Joseph Bolch and wife was acknowledged Quit Claim for Wm. Sigman and Joseph Bolick and wife Joseph Wilson was acknowledged Deed from Joseph Bolck and wife to Joseph Wilson was acknowledged Deed of quit claim from Joseph Wilson and Joseph Bolick and his wife to William Sigman was acknowledged. William Sigman could be related to Sally Sigman, wife of Joseph Bolich but I don't know about the Wilsons. AgnesC From: Idadeal@aol.com Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 19:13:45 EDT To: CATAWBA-WEST-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [CATAWBA-WEST] Joseph BOLICK 1850 census Catawba Co., NC Whose son is this Joseph? From 1850 census of Catawba Co., NC. Family 671: Joseph BOLICK 42 farmer, Sally (Sigmon?) 44, Melinda 20, Joseph 17, Ann 15, Amelia 11, Julions 13, Elkana 6. For their marriage in 1830, Jacob LONGCRIER posted the surety. Do you have this family in your database? thanks Ida Deal

Regardless of off-topic or not, I recommend USO: www.uso.org --Derick S. Hartshorn list owner, Catawba-West ----- Original Message ----- From: <CMore60515@aol.com> To: <CATAWBA-WEST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 4:51 PM Subject: [CATAWBA-WEST] those Marines just back from Iraq > Can you tell me ~~as soon as the addresses and so forth are worked > out~~~~where to send money to help those families out? It seems to me they've been > through too much, just getting home from a War they didn't want to be in, in the > 1st place, and then to lose their homes. Man, that's a bit much and its not > bad enough to have to deal with all their post traumatic problems, getting > settled again with living like a human being again, Thanksgiving and Christmas > coming, and now this. > > Want to help out. Thanks > > CGM

Hi Jan, friends, I'm from Conover and I had an aquaintanceship with Neal. He had a diner/luncheonette in Vale. His death came as a real shock to me--and to the Western North Carolina genealogical community. Among researchers in this area, I would have to say that Neal lived his heritage as much as he loved it. He contributed to local genealogical knowledge with his research and his genealogical books and CDs. He earned every cent that he received, lest anyone cast aspersions on paid-genealogical folk. I believe that there is a Neal, Jr. who has assumed the responsiblity of his father's genealogical research. I hope he continues to pursue his father's goal: the documenting of the County of Catawba, Lincoln, Rutherford, Cleveland, and others. Prior to his his very untimely death, his web page showed: http://www.geneasearch.com/pubs/pubs.cgi?north+carolina To order by e-mail ostrich@bellsouth.net By phone 704-276-1004 By snail mail: Neal Caskey 726 Bert Yarboro Rd. Vale, NC 28168 ostrich@bellsouth.net I truly hope that Neal's estate will continue to make his work available to researchers, either as a donation to the public domain or as a commercial enterprise. The time-consuming work involved in compiling this work was monumental. You are certainly not imposing on me. I have a great interest in Rutherford, Lincoln, Cleveland and Tryon counties. I have many friends in this area--very good people. Many of them have made major contributions to Western North Carolina historical and genealogical preservation. Neal is among them. I will post this to the appropriate lists and folks with whom I am aquainted. Some might be able to help answer this question--without being intrusive. If anyone can help Jan, please do. No need to send to the list. Best, --Derick ----- Original Message ----- From: Jan Williams To: derickh@charter.net Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 6:27 PM Subject: Question Hi Derick, I'm a native of Kings Mountain now living in Ohio and find the Catawba West list very helpful and informative but I decided to e-mail you directly because of the sensitivity of my question. I would like to obtain a couple books/CDs compiled by the late Neal Caskey. His widow contacted me and indicated that she would sell the books but then did not reply to my request for price and order info - given the situation, I don't feel right about pressing the matter. Do you know if his books are being sold by a genealogical society or if there is any way I can obtain them? Hope I'm not imposing on you and thank you for any assistance you can provide. Best regards, Jan

Can you tell me ~~as soon as the addresses and so forth are worked out~~~~where to send money to help those families out? It seems to me they've been through too much, just getting home from a War they didn't want to be in, in the 1st place, and then to lose their homes. Man, that's a bit much and its not bad enough to have to deal with all their post traumatic problems, getting settled again with living like a human being again, Thanksgiving and Christmas coming, and now this. Want to help out. Thanks CGM