thank you, sandra, in oregon for the suggestions which I will look into next week for arrivals in NY to possibly find my Morel and Thebes. This is new territory for me. I do use the LDS disks of Germans to America at their FHC, I think these people did not consider themselves German. Records show they spoke French and considered themselves French and the wives half Spanish! sandyn in PA __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com