No hits on Charles Martin or Kate Kuntz. The only Ligner on disk was the following: Passenger's Name: Anna Barbara Ligner Age: 30 Gender: Female Last Residence: Saxony Weimar Eisenach Date of Arrival: Jul 22, 1865 Final Destination: New York Purpose for Travel: Staying in the USA Ship's Name: Jenny Captain's Name: Gerd Hanighors Manifest ID Number: 00010492 Port of Embarkation: Bremen Mode of Travel: Steerage There are lots and lots of George Otts. These are in your time frame: Germany to US, age 22, no occupation, arr. 15 Aug 1850 Bavaria to New Orleans, age 29, Farmer, arr. 31 May 1852 Wurt. to N.Y., age 31, occupation unk., arr. 2 May 1851 Baden to N.Y., age 42, farmer, arr. 4 Aug ???? Feilbronn to Baltimore, age 45, shoe maker, arr. 14 Jun 1860 Bavaria to US, age 49, farmer, arr. 19 Oct 1854 Germany to US, age 53, farmer, arr. 23 Oct 1854 Bavaria to US, age 54, farmer, arr. 13 Nov 1854 France to US, age 6, child, arr. 14 Oct 1854 Linksheim to Lion, age 6, child, arr. 18 Nov, 1852 Savannah to US (citz.), age 41, gardengrower, arr. 19 Nov 1853 Germany to US, age 49, occupation unk., arr. 20 Sep 1850 France to US, age 7 mo., infant, arr. 11 Apr 1857 France to US, age 24, farmer, arr. ???? Germany to US, age 25, farmer, arr. 20 May 1854 Bavaria to US, age 42, farmer, arr. 17 Dec 1856 Bavaria to US, age 44, joiner, arr. 17 Aug 1852 France to US, age 9 mo., infant, arr. 2 Jan 1857 If any of the above are you Geo. Ott, let me know which and I will type the complete info on him. Sandra in Oregon ----- Original Message ----- From: <Porgie6@aol.com> To: <Kieffer@pioneer-net.com> Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 8:00 AM Subject: CD covering Germans to America Hi Sandra I read your response to a fellow member of MO-STLOUIS-METRO and I'm wondering if you would be willing to help me. All my family came from Germany and settled in St Louis. Unfortunately I'm now living in Syracuse New York and find it difficult to trace my ancestors from here. I have 4 ggrandparents I would like to find in your CD 1850-1874 If you could search for anyone of the following : Charles Martin 1854 @14yrs Mary Lingner1862@8yrs George Ott before1862 and Kate Kuntz 1871@ 30yrs Thank-you so much for any help you can give Marge