Hi Judi, You certainly have a difficult surname on your hands. I checked both Germans to America CDs (covering 1850 thru 1888). I also checked The Wuerttemberg Emigration Index CD. Finally, I typed the surname into Ancestry.com and got a single hit: CALIFORNIA DEATHS 1940-97 Surname: Crane Given Name: Ida Middle Name: Sex: Female Birth Date: 10 Dec 1905 Death Date: 5 Nov 1984 Birth Place: California Death Place: Los Angeles Social Security #: 572285707 Mother's Maiden Name: Freyiuth Father's Surname: Treeweiler Don't know if this helps, but best of luck in your quest. Sandra in Oregon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judith Van Why" <VanWhys@webtv.net> To: <CASTLE-GARDEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2002 2:23 PM Subject: Re: [CASTLE-GARDEN] GERDEL I am desparately trying to find Treeweiler relatives who came to US late1800's I know it's a shot in the dark. My GMother Elizabeth and GGF Fritz. and maybe GGM Augusta. Judi