I checked both German to America CDs. I found one very long shot and a family that arrived later with a child name Engelbert. Checked all alternate spellings and came up empty. Wishing you better luck in your search. Sandra in Oregon Passenger's Name: E. J. Schwartz Age: 34 Gender: Male Occupation: Farmer Last Residence: U??? Date of Arrival: Jun 24, 1853 Final Destination: United States Purpose for Travel: Staying in the USA Ship's Name: Prince Albert Captain's Name: U. Jachtmann Manifest ID Number: 00007486 Port of Embarkation: Marseilles Mode of Travel: Steerage Passenger's Name: Engelbert Schwartz Age: 11 months Gender: Male Occupation: Infant Last Residence: Prussia Date of Arrival: Jun 22, 1881 Final Destination: USA Ship's Name: Frisia Manifest ID Number: 60550 Port of Embarkation: Hamburg & Havre Passenger's Name: Friedr. Schwartz Age: 36 Gender: Male Occupation: Cartwright Last Residence: Prussia Date of Arrival: Jun 22, 1881 Final Destination: USA Ship's Name: Frisia Manifest ID Number: 60550 Port of Embarkation: Hamburg & Havre Passenger's Name: Frieerke Schwartz Age: 5 Gender: Female Occupation: Child Last Residence: Prussia Date of Arrival: Jun 22, 1881 Final Destination: USA Ship's Name: Frisia Manifest ID Number: 60550 Port of Embarkation: Hamburg & Havre Passenger's Name: Fritz Schwartz Age: 10 Gender: Male Occupation: Child Last Residence: Prussia Date of Arrival: Jun 22, 1881 Final Destination: USA Ship's Name: Frisia Manifest ID Number: 60550 Port of Embarkation: Hamburg & Havre Passenger's Name: Friedr. Schwartz Age: 40 Gender: Female Occupation: Wife Last Residence: Prussia Date of Arrival: Jun 22, 1881 Final Destination: USA Ship's Name: Frisia Manifest ID Number: 60550 Port of Embarkation: Hamburg & Havre ----- Original Message ----- From: "philnan" <philnan@htc.net> To: <MO-STLOUIS-METRO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 17, 2002 2:56 PM Subject: [StL-Metro] St.L - Metro Lookup - Germans to America 1850 -1874 Dear List Would anyone be willing to do a lookup on Germans to America 1850 - 1874? I am searching information on Englebert Schwartz - born 12 Mar 1829 in Bruchsal, Baden, Germany, died 11 Feb 1904 in St. Louis. We believe he came from Germany to America around 1852. Other possible spellings: Engleberd Schwarz Schwarze Thank you in advance for any help. Nancee Schwartz philnan@htc.net