Hi Carl in Long Island NY, Better too many than too few... besides, it might help someone else's search too. As for your passport question... I would assume that until a person changed citizenship (or maybe their passport expired) they would continue to use the one they were originally issued. Good luck. Sandra in Oregon ...................................................... >From Germans to America 1875-1888 CD: (note spelling variants) Passenger's Name: Christine Mattmueller Age: 21 Gender: Female Occupation: Farmer Last Residence: Germany Date of Arrival: May 24, 1880 Final Destination: USA Ship's Name: Schiedam Manifest ID Number: 35677 Port of Embarkation: Rotterdam Passenger's Name: Gottl. Mattmueller Age: 27 Gender: Male Occupation: Laborer Last Residence: Germany Date of Arrival: May 7, 1883 Final Destination: New York Purpose for Travel: Staying in USA but not a citizen Ship's Name: Nuernberg Manifest ID Number: 37308 Port of Embarkation: Bremen & Southampton Mode of Travel: Steerage Passenger's Name: Sophie Mattmueller Age: 31 Gender: Female Occupation: None Last Residence: Germany Date of Arrival: Apr 5, 1880 Final Destination: USA Ship's Name: Mosel Manifest ID Number: 35626 Port of Embarkation: Bremen Passenger's Name: A. Mattmuller Age: 18 Gender: Female Occupation: None Last Residence: Germany Date of Arrival: Nov 5, 1885 Final Destination: Chicago Ship's Name: Westernland Manifest ID Number: 38417 Port of Embarkation: Antwerp Passenger's Name: K. Mattmuller Age: 25 Gender: Male Occupation: Farmer Last Residence: Malterdingen in Germany Date of Arrival: Jan 16, 1885 Final Destination: New York Ship's Name: Westmoreland Manifest ID Number: 38029 Port of Embarkation: Antwerp Passenger's Name: Mash. Mattmuller Age: 22 Gender: Male Occupation: Laborer Last Residence: Germany Date of Arrival: Sep 2, 1882 Final Destination: USA Ship's Name: Jan Breydel Manifest ID Number: 36850 Port of Embarkation: Antwerp Passenger's Name: Jacob Matmueller Age: 61 Gender: Male Occupation: Laborer Last Residence: Prussia Date of Arrival: Sep 23, 1879 Final Destination: USA Purpose for Travel: Staying in USA but not a citizen Ship's Name: Westphalia Captain's Name: Schwenssen Manifest ID Number: 35408 Port of Embarkation: Hamburg & Havre Mode of Travel: Steerage Traveling With: Barbara Matmueller, 55-year old wife Rosine Matmueller, 20-year old daughter Friedrich Matmueller, a 4-year old child .................................................. >From Germans to America 1850-1874 CD: (this was unexpected) Passenger's Name: Jacob Mattmueller Age: 28 Gender: Male Occupation: Farmer Last Residence: France Date of Arrival: Mar 16, 1852 Final Destination: MO Purpose for Travel: Staying in the USA Ship's Name: Manchester Captain's Name: H. Taylor Manifest ID Number: 00018094 Port of Embarkation: Havre Mode of Travel: Steerage Traveling With: Salome Mattmueller, 25-year old female Other Mattmueller listings: Carl, 21 yrs, male, Germany to USA, 21 Jun 1873 Christine, 30 yrs, female, Germany to USA, 21 Jun 1873 Georg, 22 yrs, male, Germany to USA, 13 May 1869 J., 39 yrs, female, US citizen Jacob, 15 yrs, male, Germany to USA, 8 Mar 1867 Jacob, 24 yrs, male, Baden to USA, 11 Feb 1857 Marie, 26 yrs, female, Baden to USA, 20 Apr 1853 Marie, 55 yrs, female, Germany to USA, 21 Jun 1873 Wilh., 21 yrs, male, Baden to USA, 26 Feb (no year) Passenger's Name: Cathr. Mattmuhler Age: 27 Gender: Female Occupation: Spinster Last Residence: Germany Date of Arrival: Mar 14, 1870 Final Destination: United States Ship's Name: Nebraska Port of Embarkation: Liverpool & Queenstown Port of Debarkation: New York Passenger's Name: John Mattmuller Age: 21 Gender: Male Last Residence: Germany Date of Arrival: May 7, 1855 Final Destination: United States Ship's Name: Admiral Port of Embarkation: Havre Port of Debarkation: New York Passenger's Name: Matthias Mattmuller Age: 28 Gender: Male Occupation: Farmer Last Residence: Baden Date of Arrival: Sep 13, 1858 Final Destination: United States Purpose for Travel: Staying in the USA Ship's Name: Othello Captain's Name: J. K. Greenrugh Manifest ID Number: 00009289 Port of Embarkation: Gibraltar Mode of Travel: Steerage .................................................. ----- Original Message ----- From: <TheFFs@aol.com> To: <kieffer@pioneer-net.com> Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2002 5:25 PM Subject: Mattmueller/Castle Garden Hi Sandra in Oregon, If I may, can I impose upon you one more time, and the last. My last relative is Sophia Mattmueller who arrived in America before 1880, probably not earlier than 1870 she traveled with her sister Anna Maria. They were born 1861 & 1862 and I do not know if they came alone or with their parents Jacob Mattmueller and his wife Solomea. As always your help is appreciated. Thank you for the web sites that you sent along with the Passport info. One moe passport question, if the person wasn't naturalized or a citizen would they need a passport to leave America? Regards, Carl in Long Island NY