Hi Wendy, This is the information for the Stephan I referred to in our earlier communiqué... Passenger's Name: Stephen Gardella Age: 7 Gender: Male Occupation: Child Last Residence: Germany Date of Arrival: Apr 29, 1872 Final Destination: United States Ship's Name: Atlantic Port of Embarkation: Liverpool & Queenstown Port of Debarkation: New York Traveling With: Angela, 4-year old female child Bart., 40-year old male farmer Luigi, 9-year old "female" child Mary Ann (no age shown), listed as a stepdaughter Theresa, 30-year old, wife of Bart. As you can see, this Stephen was traveling with his entire family. I don't think a 7-year old would be emigrating unaccompanied by a family member or guardian. I queried the disk in order to answer your question(s) as accurately as possible. The majority of the individuals listed their final destination as "United States". I found 6 that listed their final destination as "CA"... of these, 3 departed from the port of Havre and 3 departed from the port of Cardenas. People could book passage on any ship that would accept them. Any port anywhere were possible embarkation and debarkation points. Many ships concentrated on shuttling immigrants... others tucked a few on board for the extra profit. I have seen ship manifests with only one passenger or one family. I sent this explanation to the list previously: I think a majority of the arrivals on my disks occurred in New York (probably because of the time frame involved). Just about anywhere there was a port, there was a passenger disembarking: Connecticut, Maine, Massachusetts, Maryland, Texas, Louisiana (many people went to New Orleans and then continued up the Mississippi River, disembarking at any port along the way, such as St. Louis, Missouri). Other states/cities where they landed were Pennsylvania, Virginia, New Hampshire, Rhode Island, Vermont, North Carolina, South Carolina, San Francisco, Los Angeles, etc. A lot of people immigrated through Canada and entered the United States from there. As for New York... WHERE immigrants landed depended on WHEN they arrived: Before August 1855 = Wharfs of Manhattan August 1, 1855 thru April 18, 1890 = Castle Garden April 19, 1890 thru December 31, 1891 = Barge Office January 1, 1892 thru June 13, 1897 = Ellis Island (this structure burned and many records were lost in the fire, including records of people who had arrived thru the Barge Office). June 14, 1897 thru December 16, 1900 = Barge Office December 17, 1900 thru 1924 = Ellis Island I suppose a member of Stephan's family could have worked their passage fares as a member of the ship's crew. I know this doesn't solve your problem. These are my observations. Sandra in Oregon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wendy Deakins" <wendy@sunset.net> To: <CASTLE-GARDEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2002 7:19 PM Subject: RE: [CASTLE-GARDEN] GARDELLA Dear Sandra.....I have been thinking about this and I have a question. Would > Stephan (age 7 if he was in Genoa ) have boarded a ship from Germany to come to the US? and If so ...if he was coming to California would he have gone to Castle Garden first? Was he traveling with others? I am sorry to bother you with this...but I was just curious....Thank you...Wendy

Dear Sandra...Your help is most gratefully appreciated....including the explanation of how and where and why. I have been looking for Andrew and Katherine and Stephan for so long....I contacted the National Archives and they said that the records for the period of time that they might have traveled (around 1859) and they said the Port of New York is not indexed so they won't search unless you have Port of Entry, Name of Vessel, approximate date of arrival and full name of passenger. They will do a search using the Port of Embarkation but again they require an exact date of arrival and again all of the above. Thank you again, Wendy -----Original Message----- From: Sandra Kieffer [mailto:kieffer@tymewyse.com] Sent: Monday, September 23, 2002 6:25 AM To: CASTLE-GARDEN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [CASTLE-GARDEN] Re: GARDELLA Hi Wendy, This is the information for the Stephan I referred to in our earlier communiqué... Passenger's Name: Stephen Gardella Age: 7 Gender: Male Occupation: Child Last Residence: Germany Date of Arrival: Apr 29, 1872 Final Destination: United States Ship's Name: Atlantic Port of Embarkation: Liverpool & Queenstown Port of Debarkation: New York Traveling With: Angela, 4-year old female child Bart., 40-year old male farmer Luigi, 9-year old "female" child Mary Ann (no age shown), listed as a stepdaughter Theresa, 30-year old, wife of Bart. As you can see, this Stephen was traveling with his entire family. I don't think a 7-year old would be emigrating unaccompanied by a family member or guardian. I queried the disk in order to answer your question(s) as accurately as possible. The majority of the individuals listed their final destination as "United States". I found 6 that listed their final destination as "CA"... of these, 3 departed from the port of Havre and 3 departed from the port of Cardenas. People could book passage on any ship that would accept them. Any port anywhere were possible embarkation and debarkation points. Many ships concentrated on shuttling immigrants... others tucked a few on board for the extra profit. I have seen ship manifests with only one passenger or one family. I sent this explanation to the list previously: I think a majority of the arrivals on my disks occurred in New York (probably because of the time frame involved). Just about anywhere there was a port, there was a passenger disembarking: Connecticut, Maine, Massachusetts, Maryland, Texas, Louisiana (many people went to New Orleans and then continued up the Mississippi River, disembarking at any port along the way, such as St. Louis, Missouri). Other states/cities where they landed were Pennsylvania, Virginia, New Hampshire, Rhode Island, Vermont, North Carolina, South Carolina, San Francisco, Los Angeles, etc. A lot of people immigrated through Canada and entered the United States from there. As for New York... WHERE immigrants landed depended on WHEN they arrived: Before August 1855 = Wharfs of Manhattan August 1, 1855 thru April 18, 1890 = Castle Garden April 19, 1890 thru December 31, 1891 = Barge Office January 1, 1892 thru June 13, 1897 = Ellis Island (this structure burned and many records were lost in the fire, including records of people who had arrived thru the Barge Office). June 14, 1897 thru December 16, 1900 = Barge Office December 17, 1900 thru 1924 = Ellis Island I suppose a member of Stephan's family could have worked their passage fares as a member of the ship's crew. I know this doesn't solve your problem. These are my observations. Sandra in Oregon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wendy Deakins" <wendy@sunset.net> To: <CASTLE-GARDEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2002 7:19 PM Subject: RE: [CASTLE-GARDEN] GARDELLA Dear Sandra.....I have been thinking about this and I have a question. Would > Stephan (age 7 if he was in Genoa ) have boarded a ship from Germany to come to the US? and If so ...if he was coming to California would he have gone to Castle Garden first? Was he traveling with others? I am sorry to bother you with this...but I was just curious....Thank you...Wendy ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237