Hi again Helene, Use the link below to go to the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) page for ordering forms. You will want to order NATF Form 81. The site is very user-friendly. You just email your request and fill out the form when it arrives (with the info I gave you). Make sure to list the names of all the individuals you are looking for. What you usually get back is the first page of the ship manifest and whatever page(s) the people you want are listed on. If you want the "entire" ship manifest, you must state so, but it could get spendy. Sandra in Oregon http://www.nara.gov/research/ordering/ordrfrms.html PS: I think you will find this an excellent site. After clicking on the following link, choose "Magellan - The Ship Navigator". I think you'll really like this. http://www.cimorelli.com/safe/shipmenu.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "MikenHelene" <carsonmh@volfirst.net> To: <Kieffer@pioneer-net.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 7:29 PM Thank you so much for this information. Can you I ask you one more thing?? How would I go about getting this passanger arrival record, I would want the page because I would want to see who else traveled with them. the ages seem to match up pretty well. Thank you again!! Helene