Hello once again Glenn, I picked your particular Mary Becker for several reasons. Her age was reasonable to be married to Otto and to be Michael's sister. Michael's port of embarkation listed Hamburg, as did this Mary's. Your other Mary options were: 1) age 3 in 1888 2) age 40 in 1888 3) 21 in 1886 and married from Switzerland 4) embarked from Bremen as 17 yr old servant in 1886 5) wife aged 26 from Liverpool in 1882 Anyway, that's why I furnished you with the one I did. Sandra in Oregon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn Rebholz" <eaglehawk757@msn.com> To: <Kieffer@pioneer-net.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 7:03 PM Subject: assuredness of this Mary BECKER With two Castle Garden requests, you may have zeroed in for me on two people that would go on to become paternal great-grandparents. OTTO ESCHE: Arrived 3Apr1878 aboard HOLSATIA. Last residence: Saxony, Weimar, Eisenach. Age 25, occupation -- merchant. MICHAEL BECKER also aboard. There were two BECKER's aboard the POLARIA, MARY and ANNA. Ship arrived 15May1882. MARY could be OTTO's soon-to-be wife What thought processes did to say: "Best possible for your Mary". What are the odds that it can be another person ? Thanking you in advance Glenn Rebholz Charlottesville, VA