These are the only CANAN's on the 1850-1874 Germans to America CD: Passenger's Name: C. Canan Age: 39 Gender: Male Occupation: None Last Residence: Germany Date of Arrival: Jun 10, 1852 Final Destination: United States Purpose for Travel: Staying in the USA Ship's Name: Washington Captain's Name: Juergen Dan Manifest ID Number: 00006984 Port of Embarkation: Marseilles Mode of Travel: Steerage Passenger's Name: Sophia Canan Age: 38 Gender: Female Occupation: None Last Residence: Germany Date of Arrival: Jun 10, 1852 Final Destination: United States Purpose for Travel: Staying in the USA Ship's Name: Washington Captain's Name: Juergen Dan Manifest ID Number: 00006984 Port of Embarkation: Marseilles Mode of Travel: Steerage I also found these records on disk that the original transcriber seems to have found somewhat illegible: Sandra in Oregon Passenger's Name: Thomas Ca??? Age: 11 Gender: Male Occupation: Child Last Residence: Ireland Date of Arrival: Sep 5, 1865 Final Destination: United States Purpose for Travel: Staying in the USA Ship's Name: The Queen Captain's Name: Frederick Grogan Manifest ID Number: 00010532 Port of Embarkation: Genoa Mode of Travel: Steerage Passenger's Name: Maria Ca??? Age: 9 Gender: Female Occupation: Child Last Residence: Ireland Date of Arrival: Sep 5, 1865 Final Destination: United States Purpose for Travel: Staying in the USA Ship's Name: The Queen Captain's Name: Frederick Grogan Manifest ID Number: 00010532 Port of Embarkation: Genoa Mode of Travel: Steerage Passenger's Name: Eliza Ca??? Age: 7 Gender: Male Occupation: Child Last Residence: Ireland Date of Arrival: Sep 5, 1865 Final Destination: United States Purpose for Travel: Staying in the USA Ship's Name: The Queen Captain's Name: Frederick Grogan Manifest ID Number: 00010532 Port of Embarkation: Genoa Mode of Travel: Steerage ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joan Coogan" <jcoogan1@webtv.net> To: <CASTLE-GARDEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 08, 2002 7:57 PM Subject: [CASTLE-GARDEN] [CASTLE GARDEN] Canan: 1868 - Ireland to New York > The only information that I have about my great-grandfather, > Thomas Canan b. 3/16/1853, is that he arrived in New York from Ireland > in 1868. I am looking the ship and place of embarkment. Would > appreciate any help. > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Sandy, The Cimorelli site lets you search for ships by date. When I placed a query it gave 3 ships arriving in New York on Sep 1, 1890... La Bretagne, Marsala and Servia. You may want to check the site again. Sandra in Oregon These sites are also suited when you are searching for ships by date: http://istg.rootsweb.com/ http://istg.rootsweb.com/bremenproj/bremenproject.html http://www.theshipslist.com/index.html http://khuish.tripod.com/ships.htm For even deeper digging: http://home.att.net/~wee-monster/passengers.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandra Levine" <sjlevine47@yahoo.com> To: <CASTLE-GARDEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2002 11:53 AM Subject: [CASTLE-GARDEN] 1883,1890 from the list just displayed my Jean and Maria Morel with young Claudine arrived at the wharf in Manhatten in 1883. My Urban and Elvira Thebes arrived on 1 Sept 1890 at the barge office. Any suggstion where to find these arrivals? the 1 Sept 1890 is very specific, just don't know name of ship or that site with Magellan would be wonderful. I have date, not ship!! seems Castle Garden is not where I need to be according to the dates just provided! sandy sjlevine47@yahoo.comT

Source: Germans to America 1850-1874 CD. Good luck. Sandra in Oregon LAUBER's from Baden 1850-1856: Albert, male, age 19, arrived 9 Apr 1852 Catharine, female, age 27, arrived 8 Apr 1852 Charles, male, age 30, arrived 26 Jan 1855 Frederique, female, age 26, arrived 31 May 1852 Margaretha, female, age 26, arrived 28 Aug 1850 Maria, female, age 23, arrived 31 May (unknown year) Maria, female, age 24, arrived 5 Apr 1853 Xaver, male, age 18, arrived 31 May (unknown year) ......................... You may also find these of interest: Passenger's Name: Sylvestre Laube Age: 24 Gender: Male Occupation: Cultivator Last Residence: Switzerland Date of Arrival: Nov 30, 1852 Final Destination: United States Purpose for Travel: Staying in the USA Ship's Name: St Denis Captain's Name: Alonzo Folland Manifest ID Number: 00007068 Port of Embarkation: Havre Mode of Travel: Steerage Passenger's Name: Anselm Laube Age: 22 Gender: Male Occupation: Cultivator Last Residence: Switzerland Date of Arrival: Nov 30, 1852 Final Destination: United States Purpose for Travel: Staying in the USA Ship's Name: St Denis Captain's Name: Alonzo Folland Manifest ID Number: 00007068 Port of Embarkation: Havre Mode of Travel: Steerage ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles E Barnum" <cebarnum@juno.com> To: <CASTLE-GARDEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2002 12:08 PM Subject: [CASTLE-GARDEN] Sylvester Lauber or any other Laubers from Baden - 1850 - 1856? > Hi Sandra, > > Could you please check your Germans to America to see if Sylvester Lauber > or any other Laubers came to America from Baden from 1850 - 1856? I > understand Sylvester Lauber came over with two brothers and they got > separated when they got off the boat in New York. I cannot find anything > on the two brothers. Thank you for your help. > > LaVonne Barnum > cebarnum@Juno.com > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

from the list just displayed my Jean and Maria Morel with young Claudine arrived at the wharf in Manhatten in 1883. My Urban and Elvira Thebes arrived on 1 Sept 1890 at the barge office. Any suggstion where to find these arrivals? the 1 Sept 1890 is very specific, just don't know name of ship or that site with Magellan would be wonderful. I have date, not ship!! seems Castle Garden is not where I need to be according to the dates just provided! sandy sjlevine47@yahoo.comT __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com

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The only information that I have about my great-grandfather, Thomas Canan b. 3/16/1853, is that he arrived in New York from Ireland in 1868. I am looking the ship and place of embarkment. Would appreciate any help.

thank you, sandra, in oregon for the suggestions which I will look into next week for arrivals in NY to possibly find my Morel and Thebes. This is new territory for me. I do use the LDS disks of Germans to America at their FHC, I think these people did not consider themselves German. Records show they spoke French and considered themselves French and the wives half Spanish! sandyn in PA __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com

At 12:36 AM 6/9/02 +0000, Glenn Rebholz wrote: >What years did the doors of Castle Garden open ? Where did immigrants arrive in NY? ******************************************** Before August 1855 - wharfs of Manhattan August 1, 1855 - April 18, 1890 : Castle Garden April 19, 1890-Dec. 31, 1891: Barge Office January 1, 1892- June 13, 1897: Ellis Island June 14, 1897 - Dec 16, 1900: Barge Office December 17, 1900-1924: Ellis Island Groetjes from.......................Peter!!!!!! Docs4u Research. Genealogical research service for North Americans from the Netherlands, Belgium , Indonesia and England. From complete research to single documents. Very reasonable rates. Mailto:docs4u@canada.com or Mailto:petervanschaik@consulteert.com

I did not find any given name matches under REBHOLZ. These are the Rebholz from Baden from the Germans to America 1850-1874 CD: Francois, male, age 25, arrived May 17, 1852 Fred., male, age 5, arrived May 31, 1858 Jacob, male, age 11 months, arrived May 31, 1858 Jacob, male, age 30, arrived April 10, 1854 Josefa, female, age 31, arrived 1850-1874 (no exact date) Joseph, male, age 21, arrived December 17, 1858 Laurentin, male, age 25, arrived April 10, 1854 Marie, female, age 28, arrived May 31, 1858 Marie, female, age 3, arrived May 31, 1858 Thimoteus, male, age 19, arrived April 10, 1854 I also found (from Baden): Johann Rebholz-Beller, male, age 16, arrived Andre Rebholtz, male, age 6 months, arrived May 16, 1856 Crescentia Rebholtz, female, age 29, arrived May 16, 1856 Thomas Rebholtz, male, age 30, arrived May 16, 1856 There were many listings for FECHT, but no Justine. If you want full details on any of the above individuals I have listed, please let me know. ........................ This should answer the second part of your question. Some kind soul provided me with this info some time back. Sandra in Oregon Where immigrants arrived in New York: Before August 1855 = wharfs of Manhattan August 1, 1855 - April 18, 1890 = Castle Garden April 19, 1890 - December 31, 1891 = Barge Office January 1, 1892 - June 13, 1897 = Ellis Island June 14, 1897 - December 16, 1900 = Barge Office December 17, 1900 - 1924 = Ellis Island ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn Rebholz" <eaglehawk757@msn.com> To: <CASTLE-GARDEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 12:58 PM Subject: [CASTLE-GARDEN] Sylvan Rebholz early 1850's ?? My 2nd-great-grandfather, Sylvan REBHOLZ, was born 6Feb1822 Kreenheinstetten, Messkirch, Baden, Germany. He was married 17Jul1854, Newark, New Jersey. I don't know his year of immigration, but I would place it at 1850-54. His youngest child, John REBHOLZ, was born 26Apr1855 NJ/NYC. Sylvan was married to Justina FECHT, born 1831, Germany. When did Castle Garden come into existence, and is my ancestor found there ? Thanking you in advance, Glenn Rebholz

Some kind soul provided me with this info some time back. Sandra in Oregon Where immigrants arrived in New York: Before August 1855 = wharfs of Manhattan August 1, 1855 - April 18, 1890 = Castle Garden April 19, 1890 - December 31, 1891 = Barge Office January 1, 1892 - June 13, 1897 = Ellis Island June 14, 1897 - December 16, 1900 = Barge Office December 17, 1900 - 1924 = Ellis Island ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn Rebholz" <eaglehawk757@msn.com> To: <CASTLE-GARDEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 08, 2002 5:36 PM Subject: [CASTLE-GARDEN] doors opened ? What years did the doors of Castle Garden open ?

Can anyone help I am trying to find records for the ship my Grandfather and other dust relatives came on. Can someone find them. thanks Margaret _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com

My 2nd-great-grandfather, Sylvan REBHOLZ, was born 6Feb1822 Kreenheinstetten, Messkirch, Baden, Germany. He was married 17Jul1854, Newark, New Jersey. I don't know his year of immigration, but I would place it at 1850-54. His youngest child, John REBHOLZ, was born 26Apr1855 NJ/NYC. Sylvan was married to Justina FECHT, born 1831, Germany. When did Castle Garden come into existence, and is my ancestor found there ? Thanking you in advance, Glenn Rebholz _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

I purchased 2 Germans to America CDs thru the following web site: http://home.att.net/~wee-monster/index.html These other sites are what I use for researching ships lists (If you try the "cimorelli" one and choose Magellan, you will find an excellent site). http://home.pacbell.net/spmorse/ellis/ellis.html http://www.cimorelli.com/safe/shipmenu.htm http://distantcousin.com/Links/ships/ http://istg.rootsweb.com/ http://www.theshipslist.com/index.html Sandra in Oregon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandra Levine" <sjlevine47@yahoo.com> To: <CASTLE-GARDEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 11:22 AM Subject: [CASTLE-GARDEN] Morel > Thank you Sandra in Oregon for the list of German > Morels ariving in NY in 1883. Didn't find mine there. > Where does this information come from? I am new at > Castle Garden. My Jean Morel was origianlly was Alsace > Lorraine which went back and forth from French to > German hands, but he went to Barcelona and married > there and then came to America. I haven't found him in > Germans to America, either. He left France in 1870 to > avoid becoming German so I would say he considered > himself French. It's the same story for Urban Thebes > who married Jean's wife's sister and came 1 Sept 1890 > to NY . How can I access Castle Garden records? any > advice apprecitated. > sandy > sjlevine47@yahoo.com > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup > http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Thank you Sandra in Oregon for the list of German Morels ariving in NY in 1883. Didn't find mine there. Where does this information come from? I am new at Castle Garden. My Jean Morel was origianlly was Alsace Lorraine which went back and forth from French to German hands, but he went to Barcelona and married there and then came to America. I haven't found him in Germans to America, either. He left France in 1870 to avoid becoming German so I would say he considered himself French. It's the same story for Urban Thebes who married Jean's wife's sister and came 1 Sept 1890 to NY . How can I access Castle Garden records? any advice apprecitated. sandy sjlevine47@yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com

looking for a Johannes/John Lorig and wife Barbara DeTemple. he was born 1820 in Germany and she was born 1824. they came in 1846 I believe together she was 22 and he was 26. Can anyone find them. Margaret Koski-Dust,Oakland County,Michigan _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com

These are the 1883 MOREL arrivals from the Germans to America 1875 - 1888 CD. Sandra in Oregon Passenger's Name: Mr. ??? Morel Age: 18 Gender: Male Occupation: Farmer Last Residence: France Date of Arrival: 1 Mar 1883 Final Destination: USA Ship's Name: Canada Manifest ID Number: 80341 Port of Embarkation: Havre Passenger's Name: Mme. ??? Morel Age: 24 Gender: Female Occupation: Artist Last Residence: France Date of Arrival: 27 Aug 1883 Final Destination: Unknown Ship's Name: Normandie Manifest ID Number: 80410 Port of Embarkation: Havre Passenger's Name: Mr. Augte. Morel Age: 35 Gender: Male Occupation: Artist Last Residence: France Date of Arrival: 27 Aug 1883 Final Destination: Unknown Ship's Name: Normandie Manifest ID Number: 80410 Port of Embarkation: Havre Passenger's Name: Mr. C. Morel Age: 23 Gender: Male Occupation: Laborer Last Residence: France Date of Arrival: 28 Jun 1883 Final Destination: New York Purpose for Travel: Staying in USA but not a citizen Ship's Name: Canada Manifest ID Number 80384 Port of Embarkation: Havre Mode of Travel: Steerage Passenger's Name: Claude Julien Morel Age: 71 Gender: Male Occupation: None Last Residence: France Date of Arrival: 19 Sep 1883 Final Destination: St. Louis Ship's Name: France Manifest ID Number: 80418 Port of Embarkation: Havre Passenger's Name: F. Morel Age: 29 Gender: Male Occupation: Gentleman Last Residence: France Date of Arrival: 23 May 1883 Final Destination: New York Purpose for Travel: Staying in USA but not a citizen Ship's Name: France Manifest ID Number: 80359 Port of Embarkation: Havre Mode of Travel: Cabin Passenger's Name: Mr. H. Morel Age: 52 Gender: Male Occupation: Farmer Last Residence: Alsace-Lorraine Date of Arrival: 28 Jun 1883 Final Destination: New York Purpose for Travel: Staying in USA but not a citizen Ship's Name: Canada Manifest ID Number: 80384 Port of Embarkation: Havre Mode of Travel: Steerage Passenger's Name: Josef Morel Age: 25 Gender: Male Occupation: Brewer Last Residence: Bavaria Date of Arrival: 1 Mar 1883 Final Destination: Indiana Ship's Name: Weser Manifest ID Number: 15958 Port of Embarkation: Bremen Passenger's Name: Mr. L. Morel Age: 23 Gender: Male Occupation: Carpenter Last Residence: Alsace Lorraine Date of Arrival: 28 Jun 1883 Final Destination: New York Purpose for Travel: Staying in USA but not a citizen Ship's Name: Canada Manifest ID Number: 80384 Port of Embarkation: Havre Mode of Travel: Steerage Passenger's Name: Luae Morel Age: 27 Gender: Female Occupation: Cook Last Residence: France Date of Arrival: 2 Aug 1883 Final Destination: USA Ship's Name: Amerique Manifest ID Number: 80403 Port of Embarkation: Havre Passenger's Name: Marie Morel Age: 22 Gender: Female Occupation: Unknown Last Residence: Bavaria Date of Arrival: 1 Mar 1883 Final Destination: Indiana Ship's Name: Weser Manifest ID Number: 15958 Port of Embarkation: Bremen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandra Levine" <sjlevine47@yahoo.com> To: <CASTLE-GARDEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 6:25 PM Subject: [CASTLE-GARDEN] Morel Arriving 1883 in NY Jean and Maria (John and Mary) MOREL with young daughter Claudine. does anyone know a > boat they arrived on in 1883? Originated in Barcelona, > don't know path getting here. > > sjlevine47@yahoo.com > Sandy > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup > http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Arriving 1883 in NY Jean and Maria (John and Mary) MOREL with young daughter Claudine. does anyone know a boat they arrived on in 1883? Originated in Barcelona, don't know path getting here. sjlevine47@yahoo.com Sandy __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com

Arrival in NY Sept 1, 1890, Urban and Elivra Thebes-starting point Barcelona. Does someone have a record of their arrival in NY on a boat? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com

In a message dated 5/31/2002 5:01:20 PM Central Daylight Time, CASTLE-GARDEN-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > There are many, many names on the disks > that are filled in in with question marks because they were illegible to > the > transcriber (example: K???, C.). As you can see, this could have been > your > Clara. Hi Sandra, Does this mean there actually was an entry K???, C. ? Maybe I'm grasping at straws, but it is the first clue I've had. My grandfather was born February 1847, so he would have been 32 in 1879, not 31. Also I know his middle name did begin with C, but Ch sounds like Charles, and I never saw anything more than C. He had a son John C. Dietrich Jr. also. I wish there was a German port of embarkation given. I assume the CD you have is the Germans to America CD? I've been wanting to order that, and I guess I will now. Can I order the manifest page from NARA online? I will check out their page. Thanks again, Ruth

----- Original Message ----- From: <Ruthfam@aol.com> To: <CASTLE-GARDEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 10:04 PM Subject: [CASTLE-GARDEN] Re: CASTLE-GARDEN-D Digest V02 #102 There are many, many names on the disks that are filled in in with question marks because they were illegible to the transcriber (example: K???, C.). As you can see, this could have been your Clara. Hi Sandra, Does this mean there actually was an entry K???, C. ? Maybe I'm grasping at straws, but it is the first clue I've had. My grandfather was born February 1847, so he would have been 32 in 1879, not 31. Also I know his middle name > did begin with C, but Ch sounds like Charles, and I never saw anything more than C. He had a son John C. Dietrich Jr. also. I wish there was a German port of embarkation given. I assume the CD you have is the Germans to America CD? I've been wanting to order that, and I guess I will now. Can I order the manifest page from NARA online? I will check out their page. Thanks again, Ruth Hi Ruth, Sorry to get your hopes up. I was just trying to choose a good example for you. The disks are worth the $60 apiece... especially if you are researching several in that time frame. You might want to check out these web sites for your research also: http://www.nara.gov/research/ordering/ordrfrms.html (for requesting forms from NARA) http://home.att.net/~wee-monster/index.html http://home.pacbell.net/spmorse/ellis/ellis.html http://www.cimorelli.com/safe/shipmenu.htm http://distantcousin.com/Links/ships/ http://istg.rootsweb.com/ http://www.theshipslist.com/index.html http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/ (for researching passenger lists) Hope you find your people. Best of luck. Sandra in Oregon