Castle Garden operated from 8/1/1855 until 4/18/1890. The Barge Office took over from 4/19/1890 until 12/31/1891, and Ellis Island opened 1/1/1892 until the fire of 6/13/1897. Again the Barge Office opened from 6/14/1897 until EI was repaired and re-opened on 12/17/1900. EI then continued until 1924. ----- Original Message ----- From: <JKill0343@aol.com> To: <CASTLE-GARDEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 11:39 AM Subject: [CASTLE-GARDEN] Date of Closure > Does anyone know when Castle Garden closed? Did Ellis Island become the main > Immigration Center after the former closed? Or did they exist at the same > time? > > Sonja > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.380 / Virus Database: 213 - Release Date: 7/24/02
Does anyone know when Castle Garden closed? Did Ellis Island become the main Immigration Center after the former closed? Or did they exist at the same time? Sonja
Where/When Immigrants Arrived in New York Before August 1855 = wharfs of Manhattan August 1, 1855 - April 18, 1890 = Castle Garden April 19, 1890 - December 31, 1891 = Barge Office January 1, 1892 - June 13, 1897 = Ellis Island June 14, 1897 - December 16, 1900 = Barge Office December 17, 1900 - 1924 = Ellis Island Happy hunting. Sandra in Oregon ----- Original Message ----- From: <JKill0343@aol.com> To: <CASTLE-GARDEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 8:39 AM Subject: [CASTLE-GARDEN] Date of Closure Does anyone know when Castle Garden closed? Did Ellis Island become the main Immigration Center after the former closed? Or did they exist at the same time? Sonja
Ruth, I could read some of the information, but it was written with a thick pen with poor handwriting. You could locate your local Latter Day Saint library to locate the missing information. 1) Enumerated on 10 & 12 Jan 1920 by Joseph M. Dunbury, Ward of City 20th, 2nd District, Supervisor Dist #9,DIETRICH, John, Line 49, Crown Avenue, 1305 ? ? Head, own, F, Male, White, Age 72, Married, came to America 1882? Naturalized 18??, Blank, yes, yes, Germany, German, Parents from Germany speak German, occupation cabinet maker at a lumber company for a wage. Wife: Clare, blank, blank, female, white, age 59, married came to America 1882? Naturalized 18??, from Germany and parents from Germany, occupation: none Page 18B-line 51, Dietrich Patrick, Son, age 26, Single, blank, blank, blank, blank, yes, yes born in Pennsylvania, driver for milk dairy, wage Line 52, Dietrich, Elizabeth, daughter, age 18, single, blank, blank, blank, no, yes, yes, born in Pennsylvania, Operator for Telegraph Company for salary. Line 53, ENGELES (sp?), Elizabeth, granddaughter, age 2, single, born in Pennsylvania. 2) DIETRICH, John C., lived on Crown Avenue, numbers blurred-couldn't read, head, own, f, male, white, 38 years, married, blank, blank, blank, blank, yes, yes, born in New York, blank, Parents from Germany, speak German, occupation ?, Stker Mfg for wage. Wife: Anna, female, white, age 36, married, blank, blank, blank, bland, yes, yes, born Pennsylvania, blank, parents from Germany, speak German, yes, occupation: none Hope this helps a little, Carol >From: CASTLE-GARDEN-D-request@rootsweb.com >Reply-To: CASTLE-GARDEN-L@rootsweb.com >To: CASTLE-GARDEN-D@rootsweb.com >Subject: CASTLE-GARDEN-D Digest V02 #145 >Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 18:00:22 -0600 > ><< message2.txt >> ><< message4.txt >> _________________________________________________________________ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com
In a message dated 07/26/02 1:16:09 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Ruthfam@aol.com writes: Does anyone on the forum have the 1920 Census disk? They are listed as follows: John Dietrich Age: 72 Year: 1920 Birthplace: Deutschland Roll: T625_1581 Race: White Page: 18A State: Pennsylvania ED: 185 County: Lackawanna Image: 405 Township: Scranton >> Census enumerated Jan. 10-12, 1920 Living at 13?? (possibly 03 or 05) Crown Avenue- owns mortgage free John Dietrich, head, 72, emigrated (looks like) 1882, Na 189? (very hard to read) born Germany, parents born Germany, can't make out occupation but works for Lumber Co. Clare, wife, 59, emigrated 1882, Na 189? (might be 1891), born Germany, parents born in Germany Fredrick, son, 26, single, born Pennsylvania, occupation:driver for Milk Dairy Elizabeth, daughter, 18, single, born in Pennsylvania, occupation: Telegraph operator Elizabeth Engeles, granddaughter, 2, born in Pennsylvania Dietrich, John C Age: 38 Year: 1920 Birthplace: New York Roll: T625_1581 Race: White Page: 16B State: Pennsylvania ED: 185 County: Lackawanna Image: 402 Township: Scranton Census enumerated Jan. 10, 1920 Living at 1228 Crown Avenue, owns mortgage free John C. Dietrich, head, 38, born in New York, both parents born Germany, can't make out occupation but he works for a Stoker Manufacturer Anna, wife, 36, born in Pennsylvania, both parents born in Germany
Lorine, Many thanks for the Olive Tree Genealogy site! I finally found my grandfather's and uncle's census information, but I can't view the actual image because I don't have a subscription. Does anyone on the forum have the 1920 Census disk? They are listed as follows: Dietrich, John <A HREF="http://www.ancestry.com/ancestry/pagesecurity/imageview.asp?ti=0&dbid=6061&c=3&roll=T625_1581&rp=405&state=Pennsylvania&STAbrv=PA&county=Lackawanna&ED=185">View Image Online</A> Age: 72 Year: 1920 Birthplace: Deutschland Roll: T625_1581 Race: White Page: 18A State: Pennsylvania ED: 185 County: Lackawanna Image: 405 Township: Scranton Dietrich, John C <A HREF="http://www.ancestry.com/ancestry/pagesecurity/imageview.asp?ti=0&dbid=6061&c=3&roll=T625_1581&rp=402&state=Pennsylvania&STAbrv=PA&county=Lackawanna&ED=185">View Image Online</A> Age: 38 Year: 1920 Birthplace: New York Roll: T625_1581 Race: White Page: 16B State: Pennsylvania ED: 185 County: Lackawanna Image: 402 Township: Scranton Any help would be greatly appreciated. I've been searching many years for them. I knew they were in Scranton, but couldn't connect with a census. Ruth
looking for the following families who did come through ellis island and may have come through castle garden Robert Haindl 1898 Anna Baker. late 1800's Peter Riess 1889 Ernestine Liedke/Liedtke 1900-1903 thanks ¸.·´ .·´¨¨)) ((¸¸.·´ ..·´ Linda -:¦:- ((¸¸.·´* Researching Lemons, Cook, Dorris, Wray in TN; Swinton, Corrigan (Canada and Scotland); Wray, Keating, Couch in KY,TN, MO; Haindl,Baker, Riess, Liedtke/Liedke, Dopslaff, Wahl ( Germany, Prussia), Rotante, Falcone, Brocca/Bracca in Sicily
I am trying to find more information about my great-grandfather, Michael McGuire, whom we believe arrived in the USA from Ireland with his older brother, James McGuire, on May 29, 1863 on the ship, W. F. Storm (Manifesto 901930) Thank you! Cecilia
I am looking for my grgrandfather, Matthew C. Carswell, who arrived between 1864 and 1869. He shipped out of England as a ship's carpenter in order to make his way to this country. Is there any way to track the crews of the Immigrant ships? Norma L. Bandell (norban@earthlink. net)
I will be out of the office starting 07/19/2002 and will not return until 07/29/2002. I will respond to your message when I return.
> -----Original Message----- > From: LindaBch@aol.com [mailto:LindaBch@aol.com] > Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2002 4:28 PM > To: CASTLE-GARDEN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: {not a subscriber} irish lookups > > > do you know what yrs are covered or if names available on the > irish at this > site? thank you- a tansey descendant! linda at lindabch@aol.com >
In a message dated 7/18/2002 6:01:46 AM Pacific Daylight Time, otg@csolve.net writes: > you have ancestors from central and Eastern Europe you > may find that the Hamburg Passenger Lists Thanks to all who have offered suggestions on finding my Rudolph. He was about 18 at the time of his rather sudden departure from Danzig. His father was a prominent architect in Danzig and Rudolph was the eldest son. It was expected that he go into the military. Rudolph, on the other hand apparently liked to drink and frequently proclaimed "Down with the Kaiser!" His father put him on the first boat available. Family story is that it was a cattle boat. From other research, I get the idea that cattle was frequently shipped to Europe and the return trip took the emigrants from Europe at fares less than steerage. The years 1850-1851 are giving me trouble because either the records begin too late or at the bottom of the project list and may be picked up in the future. I'll just keep looking. John Kracha
On 17 Jul 2002 at 17:06, JKK358@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 7/16/2002 5:01:20 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > CASTLE-GARDEN-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > > > > The 2 Germans to America CDs I have cover 1850-1874 and > > 1875-1888. These > > > are matches in your requested time frame. > > > Sandra, I believe that you are the holder of the CDs. At your > convenience, would you please check for Rudolph Ernst Schultz > who came to North America about 1851. He may have come through > Canada. He was born in Danzig, Westpreussenn 17 March 1833 and I > found him in Durham, Ontario, Canada in the mid-1850s. > If you have ancestors from central and Eastern Europe you may find that the Hamburg Passenger Lists are your most important genealogical resource you can consult. If your ancestors emigrated through the city of Hamburg, Germany between 1850 and 1934 (excluding 1915-1919), you will be happy to know that approximately 1/3 of all emigration during this time period was via Hamburg. See http://www.genhelp.org/ and scroll down to the article on the Hamburg Passenger Lists or http://olivetreegenealogy.com/articles/hamburgpasslists.shtml (if this URL wraps to 2 lines, copy and paste both into your browser window, or go to http://olivetreegenealogy.com/articles/ and select IMMIGRATION then HAMBURG PASSENGER LISTS and http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/germanlists.shtml Have you tried these two sites? They both have search engines set up to search online free passenger lists. If one doesn't have what you want, the other might. http://www.searchforancestors.com/records/passenger.html and http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/search_ships.shtml This site has several search engines, one for each state where ships arrived. >From these two search engines you can search almost ALL online passenger lists to USA Lorine **Search Ships Passenger Lists to USA http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/search_ships.shtml **Search Ships Passenger Lists to Canada http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/search_shipscanada.shtml **Search Ships Passenger Lists to Australia/New Zealand http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/searchships_aus.shtml otg@csolve.net
Thank you so much for checking for me, Sandra. He is a problem; one census lists him as having arrived in 1878, his wife having arrived in 1800, and married in 1879. I don't know how they pulled that one off. Really do appreciate all that you have done. Thank you!
Hello John, Since Schultz is such a common name, I queried the Germans to America 1850-1874 disk by surname and year. Then I scrolled thru the hits for possible given name matches. Then I tagged on any potential Rudolph's. Sandra in Oregon Passenger's Name: ??? Schultz Gender: Male Last Residence: Germany Date of Arrival: Oct 12, 1850 Final Destination: United States Purpose for Travel: Staying in the USA Ship's Name: Rhein Captain's Name: M. Ehlers Manifest ID Number: 00006560 Port of Embarkation: Marseilles & Hamburg Port of Debarkation: New York Mode of Travel: Steerage Passenger's Name: R. Schultz Age: 20 Gender: Male Occupation: Joiner Last Residence: Germany Date of Arrival: Aug 16, 1854 Final Destination: United States Ship's Name: Hollander Port of Embarkation: Hamburg Port of Debarkation: New York Passenger's Name: Rud. Schultz Age: 20 Gender: Male Occupation: Farmer Last Residence: Germany Final Destination: United States Purpose for Travel: Staying in the USA Manifest ID Number: 00030106 Port of Embarkation: Marseilles Mode of Travel: Steerage Passenger's Name: Rud. Schultz Age: 29 Gender: Male Occupation: Tailor Last Residence: Germany Final Destination: United States Purpose for Travel: Staying in the USA Ship's Name: Thuringia Captain's Name: Meyer Manifest ID Number: 00033298 Mode of Travel: Steerage ----- Original Message ----- From: <JKK358@aol.com> To: <CASTLE-GARDEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 2:06 PM Subject: [CASTLE-GARDEN] Rudolph Ernst Schultz Sandra, I believe that you are the holder of the CDs. At your convenience, would you please check for Rudolph Ernst Schultz who came to North America about 1851. He may have come through Canada. He was born in Danzig, Westpreussenn 17 March 1833 and I found him in Durham, Ontario, Canada in the mid-1850s. John Kracha Member, Czechoslovak Genealogical Society Member, House of Czech and Slovak Republics, San Diego Member, German Research Association Member, Computer Genealogical Society of San Diego
Hello Joan, I ran through both of the Germans to America CDs and found no KINANs at all. There was only the original 1852 CANANs (C. and Sophia) on the first disk. Perhaps someone has a disk containing passenger information for Irish to America Immigrants. Sorry I couldn't be of help. Sandra in Oregon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joan Coogan" <jcoogan1@webtv.net> To: <CASTLE-GARDEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 2:03 PM Subject: [CASTLE-GARDEN] CANAN / Ireland to New York Hi Sandra, I'm imposing on you again for another lookup. Since I received the information about THOMAS CANAN from you, I have three new censuses and different dates (he gets younger as the years passed). The new immigration years are 1870, 1880, and 1882. You had previously searched your1850-1874 CD (he wasn't there) and Ancestry. I tried all the on-line searches and found one in 1846-1851passenger lists. Too early. I tried name variations, and one showed a THOMAS KINAN in the 1880's. Believe it or not, this is the name-pronunciation. You have helped me so much with your past lookup, I would appreciate any aid you can provide. Thank you.
In a message dated 7/16/2002 5:01:20 PM Pacific Daylight Time, CASTLE-GARDEN-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > The 2 Germans to America CDs I have cover 1850-1874 and 1875-1888. These > > are matches in your requested time frame. > Sandra, I believe that you are the holder of the CDs. At your convenience, would you please check for Rudolph Ernst Schultz who came to North America about 1851. He may have come through Canada. He was born in Danzig, Westpreussenn 17 March 1833 and I found him in Durham, Ontario, Canada in the mid-1850s. John Kracha Member, Czechoslovak Genealogical Society Member, House of Czech and Slovak Republics, San Diego Member, German Research Association Member, Computer Genealogical Society of San Diego
Hi Sandra, I'm imposing on you again for another lookup. Since I received the information about THOMAS CANAN from you, I have three new censuses and different dates (he gets younger as the years passed). The new immigration years are 1870, 1880, and 1882. You had previously searched your1850-1874 CD (he wasn't there) and Ancestry. I tried all the on-line searches and found one in 1846-1851 passenger lists. Too early. I tried name variations, and one showed a THOMAS KINAN in the 1880's. Believe it or not, this is the name-pronunciation. You have helped me so much with your past lookup, I would appreciate any aid you can provide. Thank you.
>From Germans to America 1875-1888 CD. This was the only Clara Dietrich listed. Passenger's Name: Clara Dietrich Age: 20 Gender: Female Occupation: None Last Residence: Germany Date of Arrival: Mar 5, 1887 Final Destination: USA Ship's Name: Aller Manifest ID Number: 39089 Port of Embarkation: Bremen NOTE: Traveling with... Anna Dietrich age 17 Ida Dietrich age 21 Wilhelmine Dietrich age 54 Also checked Dietrichs, Dietrick, Deitrich, Kies and Kiess. Found one Clara Kiess who was only 9 years old from Prussia. All of the J's, John's, Johan's and Johann's were either way off in age or were already traveling with a wife and/or children. Sorry I couldn't be of more help. Sandra in Oregon ----- Original Message ----- From: <Ruthfam@aol.com> To: <CASTLE-GARDEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:10 PM Subject: [CASTLE-GARDEN] Re: CASTLE-GARDEN-D Digest V02 #116 Sandra, If and when you have time, I'd appreciate a lookup of John Dietrich, born 1847 and Clara Kies Dietrich born December 25, 1860. They came over about 1879-1880, and were married aboard ship. I cannot find them anywhere, and I've been looking for 50 years. Ruth
In a message dated 6/21/2002 9:01:36 AM Central Daylight Time, CASTLE-GARDEN-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > The 2 Germans to America CDs I have cover 1850-1874 and 1875-1888. These > are matches in your requested time frame. > Sandra in Oregon > > Sandra, If and when you have time, I'd appreciate a lookup of John Dietrich, born 1847 and Clara Kies Dietrich born December 25, 1860. They came over about 1879-1880, and were married aboard ship. I cannot find them anywhere, and I've been looking for 50 years. Ruth