This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: SISK, PITORFF, TURPIN, HARDIE, PFLAGING, STONE Classification: Obituary Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/ZW.2ADI/2161.1 Message Board Post: Funeral Notice from the Modesto Bee, Wed. Sept 28, 1949, p10. SISK - In Modesto, September 28th. Minnie Pitorff Sisk: widow of the late William M (?) Sisk; aunt of Vernon Turpin and Mrs. Billie Hardie of Modesto, Adelbert Pflaging (?) of Ceres; Mrs. Florence Stone of Oakdale and Warren E. Turpin of Sacramento. A native of Sonora, Calif., aged 73 years. Friends are invited to attend the funeral services Friday afternoon at 1:30 o'clock at the Shannon Chapel, Sixteenth and I Streets, with Rev. C. Warren Van Camp officiating. Entombment, private. Odd Fellows Mausoleum. Transcribed by Judy Ewbank (?) indicates poor copy. Unable to read accurately.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: PARSONS, BURD, MCNEELY, COLE, COLLINS Classification: Obituary Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ZW.2ADI/2158.2 Message Board Post: The following is from the CA Death Index - PARSONS OLLIE ADELL 10/07/1912 BURD MCNEELY OK STANISLAUS 3/14/1982 (Ceres) Obituary previously sent 6/12/2002

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ZW.2ADI/2158.1 Message Board Post: Obituary from the Modesto Bee, March 16, 1982 ADELL PARSONS - A service sill be held at 10 a.m. Wednesday at the Franklin & Parsons Chapel for Adell Parson, 69, who died Sunday in a local hospital after a long illness. A native of Oklahoma, Mrs. Parsons was a homemaker and a Modesto resident since 1930. She is survived by a son, Tommy Cole of Oklahoma; a daughter, Colleen Parsons of Modesto; a brother and two sisters, including Arvillia Collins of Modesto; five grandchildren and one great-grandchild. Burial will be in the Ceres Cemetery. Transcribed by Judy Ewbank.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Dement, Sanders Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ZW.2ADI/2166.1.1 Message Board Post: Hi Judy: This is all the information I have on her. She Married a Elvin Sanders in ILL. She lived with him in IL, OR, and finally Calif. As far as I know she lived with him in Turlock as he died there in 1933. This has been a mystery. I believe she is the daughter of Capt William Fendley Dement. However the Dement Family Assoc doe not think so. I need additional information on her in order to settle this dispute. I hope you can help me. I found Elvin Sanders on the 1900 Orange California Census and 1900 Illinois census both read the same. Elvin Sanders b. Ill b. Feb 1861, age 39 Marr 14 yrs. b. Ill. Father b. Oh. mother b. Ill Wife: Mary, b. Sept 1870 age 29 b. MO. Father, Oh. Mother b. Ill Son. Herbert b. Feb 1887, age 15, b. in Oregon Son. Norman? b. Feb 1887 age 15 b. Oregon son. Lester? b. Sept 1892, age 7, b. Oregon Son. L. E. b. Sept 1897 age 2 b. California

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ZW.2ADI/2166.1 Message Board Post: Kirk -Your subject line expresses my need also. A quick look at the Ca Death Index does not show a Mary Sanders, fathers name Dement. The more information you can provide, the more clues the searcher has to use to help you. If known, where was she born, estimated time period, any other family names known. There were 147 Mary Sanders in the CADI, but need more clues. Thanks. Judy

Greetings: Some of you may recall that Assemblymember Anthony Pescetti authored proposed legislation (AB 1779; 2000 and AB 1368; 2001) that would have created the California Historic Cemetery Commission to work toward identifying our state's early cemeteries and reviewing the problems that plague them. Thanks to Governor Gray Davis, we didn't get our historic cemetery commission because the Governor vetoed the bill even though it passed both the state senate and assembly nearly unanimously. Had the governor not vetoed the bill, perhaps our state would be able to put together a pivotal program as Oregon has done (see at http://www.shpo.state.or.us/news.php?id=371 or below). It is incomprehensible to me as a Californian, that our great state could be outdone by Oregon, a state of great natural resources but not necessarily of the financial wealth California has generally enjoyed. If you still believe the State of California has an obligation to help protect, preserve and conserve our state's historic cemeteries, I would invite you all to send that message to Gray Davis. mailto:governor@governor.ca.gov . Ask him: How is it Oregon can afford to attend to the needs of its' historic cemeteries while California ignores them at every step? Why did you really vetoe AB 1779 in 2000? (It's a receiving mailbox, but maybe if enough of us send him the message, the next time this matter comes up, it will be enacted.) You might wish to copy your own state representatives to let them know how you feel. If you live in a county where they are allowing your historic cemeteries to be bulldozed or neglected off the face of this earth, you might want to check the new California Saving Graves website at http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ca/state/ . I am the El Dorado County Coordinator for California Saving Graves and have posted some background on California's laws, one of which VESTED TITLE TO THE PUBLIC CEMETERIES IN THE PEOPLE and, through the people, the board of supervisors of the counties are the authority for their management and control. If no one is minding the store when it comes to your county's historic cemeteries, you might wish to review some of the law. The El Dorado County site is linked to the California Saving Graves site or you may see it direct at http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ca/county/eldorado/ . Every cemetery lost in this state may represent a break in information of family histories yet to be discovered. Every cemetery lost in this state represents yet another stitch dropping out of the moral fabric of our society. We need to get together now and work together to stop the decay, neglect, desecration and obliteration of our state's historic burying grounds. Sincerely, Sue Silver El Dorado County, CA (The press release below is found on the Oregon State Historic Preservation Office website. It is a state cemetery association created by the Oregon state legislature. This is similar to what we could have had, had Gray Davis not vetoed Mr. Pescetti's bill in 2000.) Survey of historic cemeteries launched Survey attached to this release April 25th, 2002 Contact Name: Mirra Meyer, 503-378-4168, ext. 335 Contact Email: Mirra.Meyer@state.or.us #02-29 For immediate release: The Oregon Pioneer Cemetery Commission launched its spring survey of historic cemeteries today, continuing efforts to build a registry and acquire up-to-date information on the condition of historic burial sites throughout the state. Commission Coordinator Mirra Meyer said the survey will provide "essential information" needed to develop a cemetery preservation grants program. "We're asking individual volunteers, school groups and service and special interest organizations to help us gather information on the conditions of historic cemeteries and gravesites of people who died before February 14, 1909," said Meyer. "We're hoping they will fill out the questionnaires as they prepare cemeteries for Memorial Day observances and make annual visits to family plots." June 10 is the deadline for returning questionnaires that will provide data for this year's inventory. She stressed, however, that the commission welcomes survey information at any time. Survey forms can be downloaded (Acrobat required) or acquired by e-mailing Meyer at mirra.meyer@state.or.us. The questionnaires also can be acquired through regular mail by writing to Meyer at SHPO, 1115 Commercial Street NE, Suite 2, Salem, OR 97301-1012.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Dement, Sanders Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ZW.2ADI/2166 Message Board Post: Hi everyone. I really need information on a Mary Dement Sanders. She was Married to a Elvin Sanders my Great Grandpa. Time frame is from 1879 to 1933. Anyone have information on her please contact me ASAP. Any information is appreciated.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/ZW.2ADI/2154.3.1 Message Board Post: JUDY, Thank's again. When I was a teenager I dated Bobby's Brother, J.C. Overby. We went on double dates with Bobby And his sister JUANICE. We would set up all night along with my parent's playing Dominos, Putting Puzzles together, playing checkers or just talking. Of course that was in the 50's, thing's have changed so very much since then. Thanks again, Billie Spier Smith

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/ZW.2ADI/2154.2.2 Message Board Post: JUDY, Thanks again for your time. It means a lot to me for the information. They came from the same area In Oklahoma that my Parent's came from, they came to California just a few years after my family did. Thanks again. Billie Spier Smith

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/ZW.2ADI/2154.1.1 Message Board Post: Thanks Judy, I was glad to receive the information as the OVERBY'S were and are close friends of my family's. We just haven't been In touch for a while. Thanks again. Billie Spier Smith

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: OVERBY, KARRATTI, TURNER, BERDUE, BRENNAN, AIRINGTON, CORONADO, GARCIA Classification: Obituary Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ZW.2ADI/2154.3 Message Board Post: Obituary from the Modesto Bee, Tuesday, Aug 1, 1989, p B3 BOBBY L. OVERBY, 53, of Hayward, died Sunday in Ceres. SERVICES: Funeral 10 a.m. Wednesday at Lodi Funeral Home Chapel. Burial at Cherokee Memorial Park, Lodi. Visitation noon to 8 p.m. today at the chapel. BACKGROUND: Native of Chickasha, Okla. Lived in Oakdale many years before moving to Hayward in 1958. Supervisor with Likit Window Company, San Leandro. Member Teamster's Union. Attended school in Oakdale. Served in U. S. Navy. SURVIVORS: Two children, Crystal Karratti of Newark and Tracey Overby of Newark. One brother, Walter Overby of Turlock. Six sisters, Lucy Turner of LaGrange, Norma Berdue of Acampo, Maybell Brennan of Oakdale, Lois Airington, LaDonna Coronado and Juanice Garcia, all of Modesto. One grandchild. Mother, Grace Overby of Modesto. Transcribed as written by Judy Ewbank

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: OVERBY, DEXTER Classification: Obituary Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ZW.2ADI/2154.2.1 Message Board Post: The correct spelling in the above obituary should be: GRACE DEXTER OVERBY Sorry for the inaccuracy.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: OVERBY, AIRINGTON, GARCIA, CORONADO, BRENNAN, BURDUE, TURNER Classification: Obituary Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ZW.2ADI/2154.2 Message Board Post: Obituary from the Modesto Bee, Tues., Jan. 28, 1992, p B3 GRACE DEXER OVERBY, 90, of Modesto, died Sunday in La Grange. SERVICES: Funeral 12:30 p.m. Wednesday at Salas Brothers Funeral Chapel. Burial at Cherokee Memorial Park, Lodi. Visitation, 5 p.m. to 8 p.m. today at the chapel. BACKGROUND: Native of Cherokee County, Okla. Lived in Modesto since 1961. Homemaker. SURVIVORS: Seven children, Lois Airington, Juanice Garcia and Donnie Coronado, all of Modesto, Maybelle Brennan of Oakdale, Norma Burdue of Galt, Water Overby of Turlock and Lucy Turner of La Grange. One brother. Two sisters. Twenty-three grandchildren, 34 great-grandchildren and nine great-great-grandchildren. Transcribed by Judy Ewbank.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: OVERBY, ARINGTON, CARPENTER, BRENNAN, BURDUE, GARCIA, CORONADO, TURNER Classification: Obituary Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ZW.2ADI/2154.1 Message Board Post: Obituary from the Modesto Bee, March 05, 1978, B2 JAMES C. OVERBY Services will be conducted at 10 a.m. Tuesday in Salas Brothers Chapel for James Claud Overby, 78, who died Friday in a local hospital after an extended illness. Burial will be in Cherokee Memorial Park, Lodi. An Oklahoma native, he was a Modesto resident for 26 years and was a retired Maintenance man at Gallo Winery. He leaves his widow, Grace of Modesto; seven daughters, Lois Arington and Virginia Carpenter, both of Hayward, Maybelle Brennan of San Lorenzo, Norma Burdue of Galt and Juanice Garcia, Donnie Coronado and Lucy Turner; all of Modesto; two sons, Bobby of Hayward and Walter of Modesto; one brother and three sisters, 24 grandchildren and 13 great-grandchildren. Transcribed by Judy Ewbank

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: BARBOUR Classification: Obituary Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ZW.2ADI/2162.1 Message Board Post: Obituary from the Modesto Bee, Sat. Oct 13, 1945, p3 RESIDENT OF PATTERSON DIES HERE AT 74 Joseph Taylor Barbour, 74, Patterson resident for 32 years, died Thursday in a Modesto hospital following a short illness. A native of Missouri, he had been engaged in the dray business at Patterson. He is survived by one son, Reo Barbour of Bellflower. Services will be held at 2 p.m. Monday at the Evans Funeral Chapel, Patterson, with Rev. Chrles Bickford officiating. Interment will be at the Del Puerto Cemetery there. Transcribed by Judy Ewbank

Dear Californians and everybody else out there interested in the future of genealogy, I just went to www.rootsweb.com and was shocked to see that the California legislature is trying to pass a law that will severely limit access to birth and death records in California. I know that I wish they would give us more access and not less. It is tough enough just going on birth certificates, marriage certificates,death certificates and census records, but now they want to take that away from us too. It wasn't long ago that the federal government raised social security records from what I recall being $3 to $27. That was a major blow to family history enthusiasts. This could be even worse. It will be bad enough if this law passes in California, but then the slippery slope effect might take place where other states follow California's lead and limit access to public records as well. I know that I would be very disappointed if that were the case. I read recently that genealogy is by far the number one hobby in the U.S. I know that I sure love it, but I never knew it was that popular. Please go to www.rootsweb.com and see more about this genealogical atrocity, and please write to the governor and Senators Speier and Bowen about Senate Bill 1614. Let's stop this here and now! Russ Lentz P.S. I will post information on this bill below. California Birth and Death Records Senate Bill 1614 The California Senate is now considering legislation that would reduce the information available in the birth and death record indexes rendering them significantly less useful and/or limit the use and access by genealogical researchers and family historians. That which to date has been available as a matter of law, would be unavailable as a matter of law, except by restricted access through a limited index in California County Clerk's offices. While we understand concerns raised about privacy and identity, we hope that those involved in determining the future accessibility of these records will balance their great and proven family history public value against privacy and identity concerns. MyFamily.com considers these records to be primary to the pursuit of discovering an individual's heritage and history; in fact, central to the human need that answers the yearning deep inside each of us to know who we are and from where we came. If you are concerned about this loss, and the fact that the legislation if passed might mean other states would follow suit, you can contact the relevant Senators and Senate Committees by sending an e-mail regarding your thoughts. This bill will go to the floor of the Senate for a vote very soon so do not delay in contacting your senator…… · State Governor: governor@governor.ca.gov · Senator Speier: senator.speier@sen.ca.gov · Senator Bowen: senator.bowen@sen.ca.gov · All of the above Details on the status of the legislation can be found at: http://info.sen.ca.gov/cgi-bin/pagequery?type=sen_bilinfo&site=sen& title=Bill+Information Just type SB1614 in the space for "Bill number." National Genealogical Society (NGS) and the Federation of Genealogical Societies (FGS) speak out on this issue. P.S. II I am looking for my long lost relatives that were last known to live in the San Francisco area, we believe: Mary Neumann (married name Cowan or something spelled like that). She had a son, but they left Pennsylvania around the time of World War II, and my grandmother cannot remember the name of the son. Her brother Herman (nicknames: Louie and Hermie) Neumann also moved to California as well as her brother Frederick (Freddie) Neumann. We think Mary was born about 1914 and her brother Herman in about 1912 and her brother Freddie in about 1908. Mary's husband was a mailman back in Pittsburgh, but I think he died before she left for CA. I could be wrong though. Mary's parents were August (nickname: Albert) Neumann and Katherine M. (nickname: Kitty) White. My grandmother is just dying to know what ever happened to her cousins.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Holland,Utley,Ham,Banfield Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ZW.2ADI/2165 Message Board Post: I need an obit on my grandmother Margarette Belle Coop who died September 06, 1966 in ,Stanislaus Ca,maiden name was Ham and married previously to a Holland. Also need Charles Coop who died May 1983 last residence was Ceres,,Stanislaus Ca. Any information on these would be greatly appreciated. I can be contacted at niteshadow@vci.net

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Howard, Sovern, Smith Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ZW.2ADI/1291.1 Message Board Post: I am the G, G Granddaughter of Arvilla Howard, Dora Howard Sovern's sister. I am trying to find info about Arvilla and her father Royal Varney Howard. I tried Janet Bivins e-mail address, but it was kicked back. Please help. Thanks, Laura C.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: REYNOLDS - BROWNING Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/ZW.2ADI/73.318 Message Board Post: In reply to MacMcCoy, original message posted in 1998: RANSOM REYNOLDS moved to Phoenix area, Arizona abt. 1887. He lived there the rest of his life, until 1934. He had several children: Lewis, William, Carrie V. and James. The father of Ransom and his brothers Enoch, William, and so forth, was Irvin Reynolds who lived in Martinsburg, Pike, IL, and was born in Kentucky. Their mother was Nancy Ann Browning whose family also came from Kentucky. Irvin's father was Henry Reynolds. Nancy's father was Jacob Browning. Are you still looking for them ? Do you know whether Ransom Reynolds went to Stanislaus CA before he moved to Arizona?

For anyone interested, here is the most recent Senate Analyses of the effect of SB 1614's statement of intent to protect the confidentiality of birth and death records. http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/pub/bill/sen/sb_1601-1650/sb_1614_cfa_20020605_100043_sen_floor.html Sue Silver