Okay listers, I won't keep the information on the two Casner brothers who were murdered in West TX a secret. William 'Bill' Casner and Daniel 'Dan' Casner are the who were murdered 1-20-1877 in Palo Duro Canyon, TX. They are two of the fourteen children of Henry Casner and Jincy Jane Fields Casner. The children were: (1) John Casner (b1822 MO) - from the West TX stories along with his son John Lewis Casner (b1851) (2) Frank Casner (b1823) (3) Benjamin Casner (b1824) (4) William 'Bill' Casner (b1825 IA dd1-20-1877 Palo Duro Canyon, TX) (5) Ebenezer Casner (b1827) (6) Jonas 'James' Carsner (b9-24-1827 MO) (7) David Casner/Caskey (b1832 MO) (8) Andrew Jackson 'A.J.' Carsner (b10-10-1836 IA) (9) Moses/Moses H. Casner (b1837 MO) (10) Daniel 'Dan' Casner (b1837 MO d1-20-1877 Palo Duro Canyon, TX) (11) Nancy Jane 'Jo' Casner/Carsner (b1-25-1839 Ray Co., MO) (12) James 'Jim' A. Carsner/Casner (b12-1839 MO) (13) Henry Casner (b1840 MO) (14) Riley Casner (b7-9-1843 IA) Most of the family migrated to OR in 1852 and spread from there. Several of the sons struck it rich in the gold/quartz mines in CA. There was a split (fight) among some of the sons circa 1870 in OR. Those that remained in the Pacific Northwest changed the spelling of hte name to Carsner; others retained the spelling Casner. Henry Casner (father to all those children) is a son of Jonas Casner/Kestner who died between 1821-1830 in MO. It is believed that Jonas is a cousin to Isaac Casner (d10-16-1848 TX). We (descendants of Jonas) are still working on verification of this. I would be glad to field questions (if I have the answers - if not I will say so). I would also be glad to communicate with any Casner/Carsner researchers of my line (Henry & Jincy).