This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: dgbarnard Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.casner/22.27.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Teri I am descended from Frank Casner's sister, Mary Ivan Casner Shipp. Mary was the first daughter born to Lewis and Rebecca Clementine "Clemmie" Crabb Casner, born about 1890 probably in Texas. Lewis and Clemmie were the parents of 10 children. Lewis was the son of John Casner and Mary Freel Casner, who immigrated over the Oregon Trail in 1852. Mary died of either cholera or childbirth (possibly both) leaving John, Lewis and a newborn son, George. George was raised by his pateranl grandmother, but John kept Lewis with him and later moved from Washington Territory to California where he made a great deal of money in the gold strike. John and Lewis Casner bought a sheep herd with some of their money and moved them between the Panhandle of Texas and Arizona. They were also involved in several murders when their money was stolen. Lewis and Clemmie Casner were the first white couple married in the Panhandle of Texas on July 4, 1881 (I have a copy of their marriage license, w! ritten in longhand by the drugstore clerk that married them) I have much more, but also know the person who can help you more than me. Contact me and I'll give you her e-mail. Best of luck! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.