Hello List: I'm trying to stir up interest among any Casner researchers/descendants. By my count, there are at least four-maybe five- people lurking out in cyber space and quitely viewing this list. Generally, I post information to the list but am taking a different approach trying to open the lines of communication. As one person put it, my Casner line is 'the hell raising bunch' that terrorized the TX panhandle in the late 1870s. Would you believe they didn't go to jail for killing nine people in revenge for the murder of their two brothers in 1876. The two moved to another part of TX and became respectable citizens. But low and behold, in 1899 they were involved in a shooting on the range over the placement of a fence. One person died as a result of the shooting. They were both tried and convicted for their part in the killing. However, they appealed. The appeal was remanded back to the courts where they were tried (in effect they won their appeals). To my kowledge they were never tried again. But alas! They had to sell all their range land and livestock to pay the attornies who defended them. At that point they just rode off into the sunset - never to be heard of again (at least not yet). I spend my summers trying to determine what became of them. Perhaps there are Casner descendants out there who just don't want to claim relatoinship to my bunch. However, it is all part of history and heritage. Trust me, living descendants of this line are really a great bunch of people. Liz Freeman In OK! PS: Of the family of 12 brothers and one sister (to the two mentioned above), there are some other 'very interesting' characters also.

My Casner's are PA -AL- TX-CA The most interesting bit of recent info I have found on my two brothers Jacob and Isaac (b PA 1790's) was bills of sale for Jacobs' slaves in Williamson County TX in the 1860s. Thanks Elizabeth for your roll call request!

At 04:00 AM 7/2/2002, you wrote: >Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2002 22:54:29 -0500 >From: "Elizabeth Freeman" <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] > >Where are the Casner/Carsner researchers/descendants. I have an extensive >family with descendants in MO, CA, WA, OR, NM, AZ, and elsewhere. I see >very little come across this list. Would like to hear from anyone >researching these names. > >Perhaps we can help one another. Mine are PA, CT, NJ, OH and CA, not too much overlap with your states, but possible. --- Bruce A. Casner: [email protected], [email protected] http://www.alumni.caltech.edu/~casner PGP IDs: RSA 0xA84C57D1 Diffie-Hellman/DSS 0xC3ED4E5E

Where are the Casner/Carsner researchers/descendants. I have an extensive family with descendants in MO, CA, WA, OR, NM, AZ, and elsewhere. I see very little come across this list. Would like to hear from anyone researching these names. Perhaps we can help one another.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Willetts Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/xBI.2ACIB/93.1 Message Board Post: I have a new E-Mail. [email protected] Thanks! Marsha Clark

I recently came across information where a Sarah M. Casner (b.2-15-1851) in Richland Township, Washington Co., AR married Orrin Lemuel Chapman on 11-14-1869 in Greenwood, KS. Sarah died 3-25-1886 in Bethany, Harrison Co., MO. They had three children (Rubin, Minnie, Thomas). I am inclined to think that the above Sara M. Casner is one fo the daughters of William John S. Casner (b1817) and Elizabeth Sherrod (b4-26-1819) as they are on the census in Washington Co., AR in 1850. Elizabeth and her children are shown on the 1860 Washington Co., AR census. William dies in 11-1860. Does anyone have confirmation that these two Sara Casner people are one and the same. Would like to hear from you.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: CASNER, DETWILER Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/xBI.2ACIB/95 Message Board Post: Lore9nzo Casner married Mary Elizabeth Detwiler in Des Moines on August 10, 1892. In November, 1906 they were living in Bristow, Iowa. Would appreciate any information on this family as to children, occupation etc. Don Detwiler

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Lookup Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/xBI.2ACIB/31.58 Message Board Post: my great grand parents were from new jersery shore Pa. Thier names were John La Vern Casner and Dorthoy Jeanne Wolfe Casner. My grandfather played football and taught school in New Shore Pa.

I just recently obtained photos of a monument in Calavares Co., CA concerning William and Daniel Carsner who 'struck it rich' in the Sandy Gulch area of Calavares County, CA circa 1849. They are later murdered in 1877 in Palo Duro Canyon, TX. They were two of 13 brothers, all of whom mined in various areas of CA and all of whom 'struck it rich'. However, I have been unsuccessful in locating some of the brothers. The brothers were: (1) John L. Casner (b.1822 d circa1901 TX/NM) - still searching for exact date/place of death (2) Frank Casner (b1823 d1897 Kern Co., CA) (3) Benjamin Casner (b1824) - still searching for death date/place (4) William 'Bill' Carsner/Casner (b1825 d1877 TX) (5) Ebenezer/Eben Casner (b1827) - still searching for death date/place (6) Jonas 'James' Carsner (b9-24-1827 d12-12-1864 OR) (7) David Casner/Caskey/Casnee (b1832) - still searching for death date/place, thought to have died in CA (8) Andrew Jackson Carsner (b10-10-1836 d.3-1890 OR) (9) Daniel 'Dan' Carsner/Casner (b1837 d1877 TX) (10) Moses H. Casner (b1837 d10-19-1912 AZ) (11) James 'Jim' A. Carsner/Casner (b12-1839) - probably died after 1890 in OR, WA, CA (12) Henry Casner (b1840) - still searching for death date/place, possibly in OR, WA, CA (13) Riley Casner (b7-9-1843 d11-27-1909 AZ) I suspect some of the brothers left families somewhere in CA. Would like to communicate with anyone who might have connections or information on any of the above.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/xBI.2ACIB/94.1.1 Message Board Post: Sorry no information. Rebecca CASNER is the first CASNER in my tree. I have a marriage of CASNER/HALE in Hagerstown, Md. but can't prove its in my line. There is a book "The Kershner Families Of Maryland" by Mary Kershner MAXWELL. It seems CASNER and KERSHNER may be the same. Good Luck Leroy Imler

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Casner, Hughes, Willetts, Partington, Thickett Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/xBI.2ACIB/94.1 Message Board Post: Do you have any info on Rebecca Casner ? I am looking for Casner family that resided in the Beaver Co. area in the late 1800s and early 1900s. I naad info on George W. Casner b. apx. 1849 P.A. and his wife Martha. They have 2 sons;George b. ? and Charles F. Casner b. apx. 1881 P.A. his wife is Edna J. Casner. I don't know exactly where this family originated from in P.A. They are connected to the Hughes family in that area at that time also. Any info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: HALE/CASNER Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/xBI.2ACIB/94 Message Board Post: Looking for Rebecca CASNER married to William HALE. Son William HALE born 1834, died 1913 Taylor Twp. Blair Co. Pa.

I have come across the burial of a person by the name of Casner that is buried in Saline County, MO. Name: Iannies Citty CASNER Born: 4-11-1880 Died: 2-24-1940 Buried: Slater City Cemetery Saline County, MO Can anyone connect this person to a particular CASNER family. If so, would like to hear from you.

I came across a death record for Orville Latore CARSNER (sometimes spelled CASNER) who was born 8-14-1904 IA and died 4-21-1958 in Ventura Co., CA. The maiden name of his motehr was Hansen. Does anyone know who the parents of Orville Latore Carsner might have been? My Casner family at one time was in IA and spread to CA and other areas of the west - it is a very extensive family and I'm still trying to put the pieces together.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Casner Hughes Willetts Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/xBI.2ACIB/93 Message Board Post: Looking for info on George W Casner b. apx. 1849 P.A.He is in the Beaver Falls, P.A. history as a trustee and a officer of the First Christian Church. He is also listed as living in Beaver Falls, P.A. in the 1880 census with his wife A. Martha Casner. They have a son George b. ? & a son Charles F. Casner b. apx. 1882 P.A. George W.(Father) & Charles were living in the Beaver County, P.A. area in the 1920 census. Charles wife was Edna J. Casner; same age as Charles. I believe this family is related to my great great Grandmother as her body was taken to C.F.Casner's home in Beaver Falls, P.A. when she died in 1931. Her name was Olive Loretta Hughes and her Fathers name was Charles Casner Hughes. I think his Mothers maiden name is Casner and that's how he got that middle name. I am looking for any info I can find on them. Thanks !!!!!

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/xBI.2ACIB/92 Message Board Post: My brother-in-law's grgrandfather was also Adolpus, through Minnie E. We are also kind of sketchy but digging to find more info. My sister and brother-in-law are not on internet so I will have to get you in touch with them through mail.You can email me and I will get back to you. This is exciting! Waitting to hear from you, Jean

Joyces and Dale: Which Casner families are you researching. My Casner line was in IA at one time in the 1830s-1852 - still searching for two who may have remained there. Wonder if we are connected? > > Hi, Dale! I had a major problem with my e-mail and earthlink for awhile. Fortunately, my son came home for Christmas and got it straightened out before he went back to school. Sorry for any inconvenience this may have caused you. I look forward to hearing from you! Thanks! (e-mail address is correct > > > ==== CASNER Mailing List ==== > This CASNER list is currently available for adoption! > Interested in becoming the list manager? Go here: > http://resources.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listrequest.pl > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/xBI.2ACIB/80.2.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Hi, Dale! I had a major problem with my e-mail and earthlink for awhile. Fortunately, my son came home for Christmas and got it straightened out before he went back to school. Sorry for any inconvenience this may have caused you. I look forward to hearing from you! Thanks! (e-mail address is correct - [email protected])

Several of us with Casner ancestors would like to add to our knowledge regarding Adam Casner of Pendleton Co., VA. We've pooled our research findings and prepared the attached summary of primary information and sources for Adam. We invite any other researchers to contribute findings so that we may gain a better understanding of Adam's life history. Please summarize information from any additional sources and send it to Bob Saunders [email protected] . In addition to gathering additional information about Adam, we're trying to answer two questions: (1) Were Adam Casner and Vandal Benjamin Casner (b. 1771, VA; m. Elizabeth Hill; d. 1845, OH) brothers? (2) Was Benjamin Casner (b. ca. 1802, VA; m. Margaret Coffman; d. ?) a son of Adam? ------------------------------------- Primary sources of Information for Adam Casner (1) of Pendleton Co., VA. Compiled by Bob Saunders with information provided by Bill Kesner and Shirley Wilcox. 17 April 2002 [Information in brackets added by Saunders. FHL = Family History Library, LDS Church; # = microfilm number.] ***Deed warrant, Pendleton Co., VA, 16 Sep. 1783- Adam Casner from Commonwealth of VA, 57 acres between the South Branch and South Fork. Land bounded on one side by land of Philip Fuls [father-in-law?]. Land patented in 1799. ***History of Pendleton Co., WV (O. F. Morton, 1910, Franklin, VA). p. 400, Muster Roll of Pendleton Militia, Capt. J. Hopkins Co., 6 Sep., 1794 - Adam Kessner, Wendall Kessner [must have been over 16 years of age, making his birth prior to 1778; could be Vandal Benjamin Casner, b. 1771; possibly a brother of Adam]. ***Personal Property Tax Lists, Pendleton Co., VA, 1789-1796 (FHL #1870195) - Adam Casner, 1 white 16+, no slaves, 2 to 4 horses. ***Personal Property Tax List, Pendleton Co., VA, 1797 (FHL #1870195) - Adam Kersner Senr, 1 white 16+, no slaves, 3 horses. ***Personal Property Tax Lists, Pendleton Co., VA, 1798-1799 (FHL #1870195) - Adam Carsner, 1 white 16+, no slaves, 3 to 4 horses. ***Personal Property Tax List, Pendleton Co., VA, 1800 (FHL #1870195) - Adam Kersner, Benjamin Kersner [Vandal Benjamin Casner ?], and John Kersner [father of Adam and Vandal ?] ***Personal Property Tax Lists, Pendleton Co., VA, 1801-1810 (FHL #1870195) - Adam Kersner/Casner/Cassner on all available tax lists. ***U. S. Census, 1810, Pendleton Co., VA p. 1106 Adam Kesner, 45+...... [b. prior to 1765]......[Adam b. 176_] female, 26-45.............. [b. 1765-1784]..........[Hannah, b. 176_] male, 10-16................. [b. 1794-1800]..........[George, b. 1789/90 or Paul b. 1791] female, 10-16.............. [b. 1794-1800]..........[Mary Ann Catherine b. 1793] male, 10-16................. [b. 1794-1800]..........[Philip b. 1795] male, 0-10................... [b. 1800-1810]..........[tentative - Benjamin b. ca. 1802] male, 0-10................... [b. 1800-1810]..........[Daniel b. 1804/5] male, 0-10................... [b. 1800-1810]..........[Samuel b. 1805] male, 0-10................... [b. 1800-1810]..........[Solomon, b. 1810] ***Personal Property Tax Lists, Pendleton Co., VA, 1811-1820 (FHL #1870195 and #1870196) - Adam Cassner/Casner on all tax lists. ***Surveys, Pendleton Co., VA, July 1816-July 1817 (typed abstracts, p. 31; FHL #646975) - Adam Casner, 90 acres. ***Deed, Pendleton Co., VA, 23 Dec. 1817 (Vol. 7, pp. 84 and 85; FHL #808,713) - "In consideration of services done to him and his wife and his future maintenance during his natural life..." John Casner grants to Adam Casner "....146 acres on the mountain between the South Branch and South Fork." The first tract contains __ acres, which is part of the land granted to Jacob Goodman by patent and conveyed to John Casner by deed 5 July 1790. The second tract contains 28 acres granted by patent to John Casner. Wit.: Henry Mallow [written in German], John G. Miller and George Mallow. Signature of John Csteririn? [looks like it is written in German]. Proved 4 April 1818 by John G. Miller, Henry Mallow and George Mallow. Comment: This is the deed that implies a father-son relationship. ***Extracts Relating to the Mallow Family and The Mallow German Reformed Church, Pendleton Co., WV (FHL #6050209). Catharine Kessner b. 23 Dec. 1817, bapt. 1 March 1818, sponsors Adam Kessner and wife John Kessner - Maria b. 16 June 1819, bapt. 29 Apr. 1820, sponsor Adam Kessner ***U. S. Census, 1820, Pendleton Co., VA Adam Kesner, 45+ [b. prior to 1775].........[Adam b. 176_] female [Kersner], 45+ [b. 1765-1784]........[Hannah b. 176_] male [Kesner], 18-26 [b. 1794-1802].........[Philip b. 1795] male [Kesner], 18-26 [b. 1794-1802].........[?, b. ?] male [Kesner], 18-26 [b. 1794-1802].........[?, b. ?] male [Kesner], 16-18 [b. 1802-1804].........[tentative - Benjamin b. ca. 1802] male [Kesner], 10-16 [b. 1804-1810].........[Daniel, b. 1804/5 or Samuel b. 1805] male [Kesner], 0-10 [b. 1810-1820]...........[Solomon, b. 1810] female [Kesner], 0-10 [b. 1810-1820]........[?, b. ?] ***Personal Property Tax Lists, Pendleton Co., VA, 1821-1830 (FHL #1870196) - Adam Casner on all tax lists. ***U. S. Census, 1830, Pendleton Co., VA p. 043, Franklin Tsp. Adam Casner, age 60-70 [b. 1760-1770].........[Adam b. 176_] female [Casner], age 60-70 [b. 1760-1770].....[Hannah b. 176_] male [Casner], age 20-30 [b. 1800-1810]........[?, b. ?] male [Casner], age 20-30 [b. 1800-1810]........[Solomon b. ca. 1810; m. 30 Sep. 1830] female [Casner], age 20-30 [b. 1800-1810].....[?, b. ?] ***Personal Property Tax Lists, Pendleton Co., VA, 1831-1836 (FHL #1870196) - Adam Casner on all tax lists. Comment: 1836 is the last year Adam is listed in the tax records. It coincides with the date of his will and his probable year of death ***Deed, Pendleton Co., VA, 3 March 1830 (Vol. 10, p. 150; FHL #08818,704) - Adam Casner and Hannah his wife to George Casner and Lavina his wife for $448. Parcel of land lying on south Fork Mountain and adjoining Adam's lands on the northeast. It being part of an old tract Adam got from his father containing 54 acres. [No witnesses.] Adam and Hannah signed by mark. Hannah was examined apart. ***Deed, Pendleton Co., VA, 24 Oct. 1834 (Vol. 11, pp. 157 and 158; FHL #08818,705 ) - Adam Casner and Hannah his wife to George Casner for $100 sell 42 acres on a branch between Mill Creek and the South fork being part of a tract of 90 acres granted to said Adm Casner by patent 31 Dec. 1821. Adam and Hannah signed by mark. Hannah was examined apart. ***Deed, Pendleton Co., VA, 24 Oct. 1834 (Vol. 11, pp. 187 and 188; FHL #08818,705) - Adam Casner and Hannah his wife to Samuel Casner and Philip Casner 48 acres lying on a branch between the South Fork and Mill Creek, being part of 90 acres granted to Adam Casner, 31 Dec. 1821. Adam and Hannah signed by mark. Hannah was examined apart. ***Deed, Pendleton Co., VA, 24 Oct. 1834 (Vol. 11, pp. 188 and 189; FHL # 08818,705) - Adam Casner and his wife Hannah to Philip Casner. 28 acres on a branch between the South Fork and Mill Creek. ***Last Will and Testament of Adam Casner, Pendleton Co., VA, 15 April 1836 (typewritten copy). *my beloved wife [not named] - choice of one horse, one cow, and one of the beds, and her saddle and bridle, and fifty dollars for her maintenance. *after my decease, my personal property to be sold. *daughter Barbary - five dollars out of my estate and no more. *son George - twenty dollars out of my estate and no more. *son Wendle [poss. Benjamin Kesner b. ca. 1802] - twenty dollars out of my estate and no more. *daughter Elizabeth - twenty dollars out of my estate and no more and this to be paid first. *son Daniel - one hundred dollars for my maintenance and for him and my son Solomon to have my lands in full proprietorship free for five years after my decease and then it is to be sold at public sale. *son Adam his heirs - one dollar out of my estate and no more. *balance of my estate to be equally divided amongst the balance of my heirs. *John G. Miller - executor. *Wit.: Henry Mallow and Leonard Mallow. *Proved 3 August 1836. ***Deed, Pendleton Co., VA, 19 April 1841 (Vol. 13, pp. 179-181; FHL #818,706) - For $1.00 paid by Daniel Casner, the persons named below grant to Daniel Casner 184 acres on the branch between South Fork and South Mill Creek adjoining and between the lands of George Mallow and George Casner, it being land granted to Adam Casner by patent 25 Aug. 1835. John Casner Eve Casner Paul Casner Margaret Casner Mary [Casner] Miller John G. Miller Philip Casner Mary Casner Samuel Casner Catharine Casner Solomon Casner Christena Casner Except for Paul Casner and John G. Miller, all signed by mark. The women were all examined apart. There were no witnesses.

Okay listers, I won't keep the information on the two Casner brothers who were murdered in West TX a secret. William 'Bill' Casner and Daniel 'Dan' Casner are the who were murdered 1-20-1877 in Palo Duro Canyon, TX. They are two of the fourteen children of Henry Casner and Jincy Jane Fields Casner. The children were: (1) John Casner (b1822 MO) - from the West TX stories along with his son John Lewis Casner (b1851) (2) Frank Casner (b1823) (3) Benjamin Casner (b1824) (4) William 'Bill' Casner (b1825 IA dd1-20-1877 Palo Duro Canyon, TX) (5) Ebenezer Casner (b1827) (6) Jonas 'James' Carsner (b9-24-1827 MO) (7) David Casner/Caskey (b1832 MO) (8) Andrew Jackson 'A.J.' Carsner (b10-10-1836 IA) (9) Moses/Moses H. Casner (b1837 MO) (10) Daniel 'Dan' Casner (b1837 MO d1-20-1877 Palo Duro Canyon, TX) (11) Nancy Jane 'Jo' Casner/Carsner (b1-25-1839 Ray Co., MO) (12) James 'Jim' A. Carsner/Casner (b12-1839 MO) (13) Henry Casner (b1840 MO) (14) Riley Casner (b7-9-1843 IA) Most of the family migrated to OR in 1852 and spread from there. Several of the sons struck it rich in the gold/quartz mines in CA. There was a split (fight) among some of the sons circa 1870 in OR. Those that remained in the Pacific Northwest changed the spelling of hte name to Carsner; others retained the spelling Casner. Henry Casner (father to all those children) is a son of Jonas Casner/Kestner who died between 1821-1830 in MO. It is believed that Jonas is a cousin to Isaac Casner (d10-16-1848 TX). We (descendants of Jonas) are still working on verification of this. I would be glad to field questions (if I have the answers - if not I will say so). I would also be glad to communicate with any Casner/Carsner researchers of my line (Henry & Jincy).